NEW COUNTERS?

[tigercub]

STEVE is there any new ship or air units to look at?

[JanSorensen]

Mispost, sorry.

[Shannon V. OKeets]

ORIGINAL: tigercub

STEVE is there any new ship or air units to look at?

Not really. The most recent are in post 359 of the Units thread. I have done a few touch ups to them, but I am still working with just the 3 air units primarily.

For the past week I have been working on fixing things from the beta tester reports. The 1st version (00 03) was uploaded for testing 6 1/2 days ago and I have a list of 75 items reported by the beta testers. I uploaded a few corrections within 24 hours of the first (version 00 04).

The reported items break down to roughly 1/4 fatal/critical, 1/4 bad, 1/4 minor/cosmetic, and 1/4 comment/suggestion.

This is all what I expected.

Basically, I have been making a lot of changes over the last 6 months to code I did not (and still do not) fully understand, and there are repercussions from those changes to events downstream in the sequence of play. It was very time consuming for me to test all the nuances of the program after ever set of modifications. The beta testers are doing that for me.

Most game functions still execute the way they did in CWIF. But I have completely rewritten the game save/restore, scrapping units, setting up units, and the game start-up process. I also added save/restore of scrap lists. Then there were the changes from 8 bit color to 24 bit color, the quadrupling of the fundamental hex and unit size, and the revisions to the land and air unit depictions at high resolution.

The bug reports are scattered throughout those list of changes.

The only major item that has me worried is that CWIF did not implement the movement rules correctly. CWIF permitted the player to move one unit, then move some other units, and then come back to the first unit and move it some more (if it had movemenbt points remaining). This is a complete no-no. It permits you to move unit A to put enemy units out of supply, overrun the units just put out of supply, and then move unit A some more now that the enemy (and its ZOCs) have been eliminated. I wasn't aware of this defect until the beta testers reported it. I have to rethink the entire process of how the game enables the player to move land units. This is a new problem, hence my uncertainty, and therefore my concern. I need a week or two to mull it over.

My current focus is on making the save and restore functions execute correctly/reliably, because that is essential for the beta testers. The second item to correct it the end-of-turn processing which currently dies in one of: production/partisans/conquest. When I have those bugs killed off, the beta testers can push the program further and harder.

Which brings me back to unit depictions - lower priority at present. When I get more/better graphics from the artist I will incorporate them into the game and post screen shots of same in this forum.

[Jeff Gilbert]

Wow! You've got folk already doing initial beta testing. [X(]
If you could only see the smile on my face right now. [:D]

My early thanks to you and all the folk assisting ... [&o]

[tigercub]

thanks for for all your input steve it looks like you have your hands full with movment problems so i will not wast your time [8D]

[Mziln]

Heres a WWII US ship that will not be in the game. Heh heh.

[Matt242]

Maybe the reason ist that it didn't have such an impact to the course of the war?!
Sry, just kidding.

[Mziln]

[:D] USS TULSA - Patrol Gunboat (PG-22) [:D]

Designated flagship of the South China Patrol on 1 April 1929, Tulsa operated out of Hong Kong, British Crown Colony; and Canton, China, for cruises up the Pearl River and along the south China coast. At Canton in May 1929, she witnessed the bombing of Chinese naval vessels by airplanes of the opposing faction in a Chinese civil war flaring at the time.

She continued under the direct operational control of CINCAF into the 1930's, being later reassigned to the South China Patrol and observing conditions along the south China coast during the period following the outbreak of the undeclared Sino-Japanese war in July 1937. As tensions increased in the Orient in 1940 and 1941, Admiral Thomas C. Hart, CINCAF, incrementally reduced the Asiatic Fleet's presence in Chinese waters. Withdrawn to the Philippines in May 1941, Tulsa joined the Inshore Patrol, guarding the sea approaches to Manila Bay.

On 10 December 1941, two days after the outbreak of war in the Philippines, a heavy Japanese air attack devastated Cavite, the base of the Asiatic Fleet, near Manila. Standing in from the Corregidor minefields, Tulsa anchored off the burning base as the last Japanese planes departed. She called away all of her boats and sent fire and rescue parties ashore to bring off what wounded could be rescued from the holocaust. At 1900, she recalled all hands that were ashore, and within hours, Tulsa, Asheville (PG-21), Lark (AM21), and Whippoorwill (AM 36) retired toward Balikpapan, Borneo.

The Tulsa, which had a normal speed of 7.4 knots and a top speed of 10.4 knots, was one of the last ships in the navy to be equipped with sails. The sails in the hold but the ship had no booms. At one time when they considered returning from Australia to the west coast they thought of using the sails.

Equipped with a home-made depth charge rack constructed by the ship's crew, Tulsa now boasted an antisubmarine capacity and began escorting merchantmen along the south coast of Java to Tjilatjap, the only port on the island still out of reach of Japanese bombers.

After a apparently fruitless rescue attempt for surviors of the Langly (CV-1), Tulsa came upon the scene of the sinking of British merchant ship City of Manchester. Whippoorwill had already begun rescue operations, yet needed medical facilities, which Tulsa had on board. The gunboat hove to and assisted the minesweeper in the lifesaving, then returned to Tjilatjap where she awaited instructions, ready for sea at a moment's notice.

With Java being rapidly encircled by the onrushing Japanese, orders to retire were not long in coming. On 1 March 1942, Tulsa, Asheville, Lark, and Isabel (PY-10) crept out of Tjilatjap, bound for Australia. While the other three ships steamed resolutely onward, Asheville soon developed engine difficulties and fell behind, only to be trapped and sunk by superior Japanese surface forces.

Tulsa and her two companions arrived in Australia waters shortly thereafter. They were the last surface ships of the Asiatic Fleet to survive the Japanese onslaught in the East Indies; and they escaped, by a hairsbreadth, the fate which befell Asheville.

With the beginning of the Buna-Gona offensives in New Guinea, Tulsa escorted PT boats to take part in that campaign and operated between Mime Bay, New Guinea, and Cairns, Australia. When the PT boat base at Kona Kope, on the southeastern shores of Mime Bay, was established in November 1942, Tulsa brought in much-needed equipment to aid in the operations being conducted from that base.

On the night of 20 January 1943, six Japanese bombers attacked the ship. In the short, sharp action which followed, Tulsa put up a spirited defense with her 3-inch and 20-millimeter antiaircraft battery, driving off the attackers with no damage to herself, while dodging 12 bombs.

For the remainder of 1943, she continued operating in the New Guinea-Australian area, tending PT boats, escorting supply ships, and serving as flagship of the 7th Fleet. On one occasion while serving as a PT boat tender, Tulsa towed PT-109, later commanded by Lt. (jg.) John F. Kennedy, USNR, future President of the United States.

The USS Tulsa had small deck guns and was powered by oil, so it could not keep up with the larger, steam-turbine powered ships used in WWII. Her top speed was only 12 knots. Despite her limitations, the USS Tulsa was credited with sinking one submarine, and downing three enemy planes. She received two battle stars for her World War II service.

[Froonp]

Great story !
Finaly, that USS Tulsa is a great ship !!!!

We can imagine that it is included in one of those ASW counters ?

[Mziln]

[:D] Since it's job varied from convoy escort, helping train submarines (by letting them make dummy runs on them), and helping the PT boats. It could be anywhere. [:D]

Some of the unsubstantiated myths are even more bizarre.

(1) They had received bomb damage prior to WWII in China and until decommissioning had a concrete plug in the bottom of the hull.

(2) When reporting in from the Netherland East Indies they did not know the password when challenged so responded "Asiatic Fleet reporting".

(3) They were often mistaken for a destroyer and attacked by sumarines durring convoy duity. Due to such a shallow draft the submarines always missed.

(4) Before making the depthcharge rack they pushed the depthcharges over the side by hand.

[Froonp]

How do you know all that ? Do you know someone who was aboard ?

[Mziln]

I have lived most of my life in Tulsa and most of it is on the net.

Try this link: USS TULSA - Patrol Gunboat (PG-22)

The unsubstantiated myths are local folklore.

Since only 3 state/city names for ships the USS Oklahoma, the USS Oklahoma City, and the USS Tulsa we kept track of them. SSN-723 Oklahoma City is the newest

Its a state/city pride thing.

Sort of like the U. S. 45th infantry division (the Thunderbirds).

Col. Edwin Ramsey graduate of the Oklahoma Military Academy. As a Lieutenant gaining the Silver Star for gallantry in action for leading the last Horse Cavalry charge in U.S. history (Morong, Bataan, on January 16, 1942). Later leading of the Philippine guerilla forces durring WWII.

Or "the Texas-Oklahoma war" (called a border dispute by the U.S. Supreme Court) 1821-2000 (yes the dates are correct and Texas lost). At one point Oklahoma and Texas had the National guard on the border.