Getting the QB to pass not scramble
Moderator: David Winter
Getting the QB to pass not scramble
I have been playing around with the PDS designing a college playbook. Things worked fine for defense and running plays. But when I worked on a passing play using the commands I have used designing other plays, the QB will not pass, he scrambles everytime. I have put the recievers "look for pass" command very early, the recievers are open but the QB turns up field and runs. This is with the read command. Finnally I tried a timed bullet pass, the QB did throw that, but I would much rather have him read two recievers and throw to the open man.
RE: Getting the QB to pass not scramble
Increase his pocket passer rating?
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RE: Getting the QB to pass not scramble
This is in the PDS practice plays, I have used about 10 different teams to practice the play and all the QBs do the same thing. Im not sure what their pocket passer rating is but would they all scramble?
Just went back and tried the play using the teams of the 1959 league I have running. It now works fine. Im not sure if the teams I was using before are of the college ability level, or pro, maybe the college level has QBs with overall poor pocket passer ratings.
Just went back and tried the play using the teams of the 1959 league I have running. It now works fine. Im not sure if the teams I was using before are of the college ability level, or pro, maybe the college level has QBs with overall poor pocket passer ratings.
RE: Getting the QB to pass not scramble
I noticed in the 2 games I have watched cpu vs cpu, in the game with pro level teams that came with the game, the QB threw a good deal, but with 2 teams from a league set at college/hs level, the QB ran much more than he passed.
It sounds as if this is in keeping with your observations.
It sounds as if this is in keeping with your observations.
Deltadog
RE: Getting the QB to pass not scramble
I had a game last night where one team did not throw the ball once. Every pass play resulted in a scramble or sack.
(The scramble works work very well. I thought I had Vince Young back there.)
Edit: this was on Professional settings
(The scramble works work very well. I thought I had Vince Young back there.)
Edit: this was on Professional settings
RE: Getting the QB to pass not scramble
I agree the QB scramble is okay but think that there are too many scrambles now and not enough passes.
The final stats of all games I've played show more rushing attempts by far than pass attempts. There was one game with only 2 attempts recorded in stats but about 10 rushes by the QB
The final stats of all games I've played show more rushing attempts by far than pass attempts. There was one game with only 2 attempts recorded in stats but about 10 rushes by the QB
RE: Getting the QB to pass not scramble
teams from a league set at college/hs level, the QB ran much more than he passed.
It sounds as if this
-I think you all should play yourselfs
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RE: Getting the QB to pass not scramble
ORIGINAL: CFL_FAN_7
teams from a league set at college/hs level, the QB ran much more than he passed.
It sounds as if this
-I think you all should play yourselfs
never mind....too easy
RE: QB pass or scramble
i changed the QB Threshold from 2.5 to 3 in MainData.mdb
this seemed to stop the QBs from scrambling excessively and resulted in them passing more. i haven't tested this to great length but it seems to have a significant effect.
Question for Dave,
What does the QB Threshold do? I noticed in this latest patch the QB Threshold was lowered from 3.5 to 2.5
Also, when you get some time, could you provide some more explanation on the Data Constants?
Thanks
PS The upside on this Football Game is great. How about Maximum Baseball and Maximum Basketball? I'm sure you'll get plenty of people to volunteer to help Beta or whatever.[8D]
this seemed to stop the QBs from scrambling excessively and resulted in them passing more. i haven't tested this to great length but it seems to have a significant effect.
Question for Dave,
What does the QB Threshold do? I noticed in this latest patch the QB Threshold was lowered from 3.5 to 2.5
Also, when you get some time, could you provide some more explanation on the Data Constants?
Thanks
PS The upside on this Football Game is great. How about Maximum Baseball and Maximum Basketball? I'm sure you'll get plenty of people to volunteer to help Beta or whatever.[8D]
jcd38
RE: QB pass or scramble
ORIGINAL: jcd38
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PS The upside on this Football Game is great. How about Maximum Baseball and Maximum Basketball? I'm sure you'll get plenty of people to volunteer to help Beta or whatever.[8D]
Hey, not so fast! There are already requests for Maximum Hockey, Maximum Lacrosse and Maximum Curling.[:D][:D]
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"If you mess with the historical accuracy, you're going to have ahistorical outcomes."
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ahistorical outcomes. "
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OK no offence, but those are all stupid.
-hockey sucks
-Lacroose sucks even more
-Curlings just plain garbage
-Maximum Basketball would suck anyway
-Maximum baseball isn't going to sell perios
*You can't profit from any*
The only other smart options are:
-Another MaxFB
-Another CFL football game
Not to be negattive about your ideas, I just give a reality check.
-hockey sucks
-Lacroose sucks even more
-Curlings just plain garbage
-Maximum Basketball would suck anyway
-Maximum baseball isn't going to sell perios
*You can't profit from any*
The only other smart options are:
-Another MaxFB
-Another CFL football game
Not to be negattive about your ideas, I just give a reality check.
CFL rules!!!
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Not to be negattive about your ideas, I just give a reality check.
Reality check... Dude, you need to chill.
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I'm just really honest, the ideas suck and they'll turn out so bad that's y i saY another cfl game or MaxFb.
*HOckey sucks*
-YEAH THAT'S RIGHT I SAID IT, IT SUCKS lol
*HOckey sucks*
-YEAH THAT'S RIGHT I SAID IT, IT SUCKS lol
CFL rules!!!
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1 vote here for Maximum Basketball [8D]
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Sure basketball is better than hockey
-but It's still not a good idea
-what can you maximize?
-What profit are you getting?
*Still garbage idea
-but It's still not a good idea
-what can you maximize?
-What profit are you getting?
*Still garbage idea
CFL rules!!!
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ORIGINAL: CFL_FAN_7
Sure basketball is better than hockey
-but It's still not a good idea
-what can you maximize?
-What profit are you getting?
*Still garbage idea

I know, I shouldn't have made fun of CFL_FAN_7, but some of his comments lately make me just want to laugh. [:D] Sorry CFL_FAN_7
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Basketball is better than hockey
so obvious
If your referring to my ?'s
I 'd like too see you answer one of them.
with a good answer.
*My comments make you wanna laugh at least I back them up, idiot*
so obvious
If your referring to my ?'s
I 'd like too see you answer one of them.
with a good answer.
*My comments make you wanna laugh at least I back them up, idiot*
CFL rules!!!
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No offence Magnum357, you rarely know what you're talking about (on the posts i read) and you come and talk about my comments.
-You try find somthing wrong with my commentary idea and there's nothing wrong with it
- You say madden sucks and you can't prove it
-You say my comments are stupid
-What is wrong with this comment i'm really interested
-You try find somthing wrong with my commentary idea and there's nothing wrong with it
- You say madden sucks and you can't prove it
-You say my comments are stupid
Sure basketball is better than hockey
-but It's still not a good idea
-what can you maximize?
-What profit are you getting?
*Still garbage idea
-What is wrong with this comment i'm really interested
CFL rules!!!
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RE: QB pass or scramble
Everyone, please move any discussion of imaginary or future titles to the general discussion. Let's keep this for public beta-related reports. Thanks.
Regards,
- Erik
Regards,
- Erik
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