Wild Bill!!!

[m10bob]

ORIGINAL: Alby

Damn Hoosiers!
[:D][:D][:D]
[;)]

FFFFRRRRAAAAANNNNKKKKLLLLIIIIINNNN Indiana.........[:D]

[Alby]

Dismal Seeeeeeepaaaggggeeee INDIANA....
[:D]

[junk2drive]

I'll take French Lick and y'all can have the rest.

[m10bob]

ORIGINAL: junk2drive

I'll take French Lick and y'all can have the rest.

arizona west coast

"arizona west coast'

You know about French Lick?
What is the famous water??[8D]

[junk2drive]

Pluto water. I've had farts that smelled better.

I lived near Ann Arbor Michigan until 1978 when I moved to LA area.

The wife and I used to take long weekends at the Sheraton (at that time) resort in French Lick.

[m10bob]

Ann Arbor to L.A!!!.That's a MAJOR transition!!!!!

Kudos for knowing about Pluto!

[junk2drive]

LA was better than Detroit.
During the winter of 77-78 I had enough of snow. I told the wife we were moving someplace warm. She picked So Cal. 21 years later almost to the day we moved to rural Arizona. THAT was a transition.

I loved the Sheraton. They had package deals including the meals. Like a cruise ship. They had indoor and outdoor pools, bowling alley, putt putt golf, a golf course, arcade (pinball, foosball and air hockey back in those days, lol).

One October we went on the horseback tour. We were the only ones so the guide took us all over the place. Race horse farms, fall trees, it was beautiful.

[Svennemir]

HUH?
whats so sensitive in the topic that cant be seen in public?
Ya lost me

Personal messages clog the forum with irrelevant informations. This particular discussion has sparked a large number of responses, of course, but these things could be done in a proper public thread.

[Goblin]

Hey Bill thought I should ask you...sent you an email but thought i would post here too since my email is acting up as of late.

.....This is a public forum after all.

Bewteen Alby's opening sentence, and the latter part of your reply, it appears he put it right where it belongs...


Goblin

[Svennemir]

Goblin, you're missing my point. Public forums are for things of public interest. Sure anyone can post anything, but if everyone does so it will degrade the quality of the forums. Please be responsible.

[m10bob]

ORIGINAL: Svennemir

Goblin, you're missing my point. Public forums are for things of public interest. Sure anyone can post anything, but if everyone does so it will degrade the quality of the forums. Please be responsible.

Please see my thread labelled "Too many moderators"[:(]

[Alby]

the redoing of some SPWAW Campaigns would not be of public interest in the SPWAW Forum?
[&:]
once again...ya lost me

[Goblin]

ORIGINAL: Svennemir

Goblin, you're missing my point. Public forums are for things of public interest. Sure anyone can post anything, but if everyone does so it will degrade the quality of the forums. Please be responsible.

One - getting hold of WB via PM is next to impossible. Alby knew this. Same with email, although Alby also has a problem with his email on top of that. Since WB somewhat regularly checks the forums, his reason to post was sound. Remember, he is also on a time sensitive project.

Two - Within forum rule limits, he can post what he likes, can he not? He did not break a rule, and got some valuable input, plus got to enjoy a thread with his friends. How is that degrading this forum? Any forum should be fun, and no poster should have to worry about getting jumped when he posts something he thinks should be posted.

Three - What constitutes public interest? Would, say, people posting to a thread constitute interest in a topic? If so, his qualifies...



Goblin

[Svennemir]

I'm not trying to be a moderator. I have seen several 'private' threads on this forum, so I took the liberty of politely suggesting the use of an appropriate tool, namely Personal Messages, which is designed for that kind of thing, instead. I cannot understand why this sparks such a mass of negative responses. If I, a relatively unknown poster (I presume), used the forum as a personal tagwall then wouldn't that upset you?

Many of us have used the forum for a long time and can feel at 'home', enough so to be addressing comments directly to each other. But this creates clutter for others, so it's best to avoid it if you can. Why is this an unreasonable assertion?

By the way I hold no grudge against Alby if that's your concern (on the contrary I respect all those who invest time in improving SPWAW).

[Svennemir]

the redoing of some SPWAW Campaigns would not be of public interest in the SPWAW Forum?

once again...ya lost me

Then why don't you write a thread about that? This thread is a private message.

One - getting hold of WB via PM is next to impossible. Alby knew this. Same with email, although Alby also has a problem with his email on top of that. Since WB somewhat regularly checks the forums, his reason to post was sound. Remember, he is also on a time sensitive project.

Why not use an instant messaging service if time is such an important factor?

Two - Within forum rule limits, he can post what he likes, can he not? He did not break a rule, and got some valuable input, plus got to enjoy a thread with his friends. How is that degrading this forum? Any forum should be fun, and no poster should have to worry about getting jumped when he posts something he thinks should be posted.

I'm not saying that ONE PARTICULAR post is degrading the forum. I'm saying that the concept of people using the forum for all their Private Messaging needs will degrade the forum, and therefore such activity should be avoided.

Three - What constitutes public interest? Would, say, people posting to a thread constitute interest in a topic? If so, his qualifies...

Then the thread could have a proper topic, such as 'An open letter to Wild Bill concerning ....', thus inviting to review and discussion. Anyway I don't mean to officially complain that this one particular thread should conform to so-and-so. My initial post was not an attack, it was a suggestion. Once again, why is my suggestion that PMs be used for their logical (and only) application such a taboo? Do I have to wrap it in excuses before it is not considered offensive?

[FlashfyreSP]

Why not use PM? Because that message system only applies to the two individuals, the sender and receiver. No option for others to "join in" with suggestions or comments. As this discussion involves reworking existing scenarios, the community at large may in fact be interested in the subject, and may indeed have suggestions for which ones to rework. Private Messaging is just that...PRIVATE. Since this is not a "super-secret cabal" of people trying to mess things up for everyone, why should Alby's message be considered "private" or "secret"?

Besides, why are you so "uptight" over the way this forum is used? It is, and has always been, a public forum for the discussion and enjoyment of all things SPWAW. This isn't some professional website or rigidly-controlled and moderated political discussion board, it's the equivalent of the local bar for us SPWAW'ers. Chill out and just ignore any of these threads that you don't approve of.

[m10bob]

ORIGINAL: FlashfyreSP

Why not use PM? Because that message system only applies to the two individuals, the sender and receiver. No option for others to "join in" with suggestions or comments. As this discussion involves reworking existing scenarios, the community at large may in fact be interested in the subject, and may indeed have suggestions for which ones to rework. Private Messaging is just that...PRIVATE. Since this is not a "super-secret cabal" of people trying to mess things up for everyone, why should Alby's message be considered "private" or "secret"?

Besides, why are you so "uptight" over the way this forum is used? It is, and has always been, a public forum for the discussion and enjoyment of all things SPWAW. This isn't some professional website or rigidly-controlled and moderated political discussion board, it's the equivalent of the local bar for us SPWAW'ers. Chill out and just ignore any of these threads that you don't approve of.

Without fear of being "OT",

BTW, Wendy's is lookin' fer somebody to remove the flypoop from their pepper.........

[Wild Bill]

Well, nice to be the center of controversy! I've missed that a lot [:D]

I can understand concern about the forums becoming a spot for some private chit-chat that might be of little interest to others. In truth, however, I think most folks enjoy "listening in" on a private conversation. C'mon, now, admit it!

Then there is an air of "family" here, so that we tend to deal with one another on a more personal level.

There was, I think, enough public announcement in this post to warrant a public hearing. Alby is revamping some of my campaigns for the latest version of SPWAW which is admirable and deserves my and perhaps our thanks.

It is a time consuming job. I haven't had the time to do it. I appreciate Alby's efforts and have total confidence in his abilities.

So I have to defend this particular post, not because it is related to me, but because it deals with the game that brought us all here.

I think if he had asked about my health, my love life, or my financial well being, it might be interpreted as personal. I am in relatively good health, my love life is great and I'm as poor as ever.

Oops, got personal [;)].

One more thing... there have been times when I have used the forum for a personal note requesting someone's response, whom I could not reach any other way. I do that rarely but it is nice to have this avenue to do such things.

And if we prefaced the title with "Personal-" it would probably be read more than most of the others.

Wild Bill
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[m10bob]

ORIGINAL: Wild Bill

Well, nice to be the center of controversy! I've missed that a lot [:D]

I can understand concern about the forums becoming a spot for some private chit-chat that might be of little interest to others. In truth, however, I think most folks enjoy "listening in" on a private conversation. C'mon, now, admit it!

Then there is an air of "family" here, so that we tend to deal with one another on a more personal level.

There was, I think, enough public announcement in this post to warrant a public hearing. Alby is revamping some of my campaigns for the latest version of SPWAW which is admirable and deserves my and perhaps our thanks.

It is a time consuming job. I haven't had the time to do it. I appreciate Alby's efforts and have total confidence in his abilities.

So I have to defend this particular post, not because it is related to me, but because it deals with the game that brought us all here.

I think if he had asked about my health, my love life, or my financial well being, it might be interpreted as personal. I am in relatively good health, my love life is great and I'm as poor as ever.

Oops, got personal [;)].

One more thing... there have been times when I have used the forum for a personal note requesting someone's response, whom I could not reach any other way. I do that rarely but it is nice to have this avenue to do such things.

And if we prefaced the title with "Personal-" it would probably be read more than most of the others.

Wild Bill
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THE MAN HAS COME DOWN FROM THE MOUNTAIN!!!!!!!!![:D][:D][:D]

[Wild Bill]

I've been away far too long, Bob. Personal matters have had me buried with "situations" that have demanded all my time and more. Things are getting better and I will be back with a vengeance, just in time to enjoy and utilize the "enhancement" for some more new stuff! [X(]

WB