RHS 4.14 [Eratta; Chinese Army planning]
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RE: RHSCVO and RHSRAO Major Version 2.50 Released to testers
v2.52 minor upgrade for CVO RAO BBO sent out to relays and those on my list
This fixes some technical issues:
1) A couple of devices (maybe AA tanks will work now)?
2) 16th IJA division (maybe it will divide now)?
3) Most Allied carriers have ordnance.
4) An embarrassing number of small Japanese ships have data fields corrected.
5) Some class fields are corrected or clarified or updated.
6) Other little things I cannot remember - mostly fixing things pointed out by players.
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This fixes some technical issues:
1) A couple of devices (maybe AA tanks will work now)?
2) 16th IJA division (maybe it will divide now)?
3) Most Allied carriers have ordnance.
4) An embarrassing number of small Japanese ships have data fields corrected.
5) Some class fields are corrected or clarified or updated.
6) Other little things I cannot remember - mostly fixing things pointed out by players.
Sid
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RE: RHSCVO and RHSRAO Major Version 2.50 Released to testers
V2.53 for RHSBBO sent out to relays and those on my list
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RE: RHSCVO and RHSRAO Major Version 2.50 Released to testers
I checked, in CHS Calcutta is an airbase only (and no ships set to arrive there).
I use an unreleased version of CHS177. In it, Calcutta is a base, not an airbase, but while the port potential is 3, the port level is 0, and there are no hex sides open to the sea (which there should be in fact). There are also ships assigned to appear there as reinforcements - though none at start - and this was caught by testers. Since I didn't assign ships where the come in - except to change Karachi to Aden in come cases - that must also be inherited from CHS - at least in the version I used. It doesn't matter really: the file used was right to rate Calcutta as a base - and my pwhex fixes it. I assume the ships set to appear there really did - someone had some reason for putthing them there. Unless I get information this is wrong, I won't change it.
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RE: RHSCVO and RHSRAO Major Version 2.50 Released to testers
ORIGINAL: el cid again
I use an unreleased version of CHS177. In it, Calcutta is a base, not an airbase, but while the port potential is 3, the port level is 0, and there are no hex sides open to the sea (which there should be in fact). There are also ships assigned to appear there as reinforcements - though none at start - and this was caught by testers. Since I didn't assign ships where the come in - except to change Karachi to Aden in come cases - that must also be inherited from CHS - at least in the version I used.
Which version of the CHS file do you see ships appearing at Calcutta? In both CHS 1.06 and the current CHS draft, Calcutta is an airfield, not a base (although I am now changing it to as base as well), and I don't see any ships listed as appearing at Calcutta in either version of the scenario either.
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RE: RHSCVO and RHSRAO Major Version 2.50 Released to testers
Andrew I checked ship 3246 CA Australia on several different versions of CHS and they do say delayed (which is what you expected). When I checked RHS 2.22 it was delayed but by RHS 2.31 it shows Calcutta. Somewhere 2.22 and 2.31 that field changed.
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RE: RHSCVO and RHSRAO Major Version 2.50 Released to testers
El Cid Again, RHSCVO 2.52. Here we go again:
There are more japanese units which cannot be divided:
- 5th division
- 48th division
- 65th brigade
On first turn, part of these units are loaded onto transports. So, just in case, I unloaded them. Confirmed: the "divide unit" button is not available.
P.S.:
as for the 16th division. You fixed it [:)] Unless you can use a "magic" software your testers and yourself will have to be er... systematic...
There are more japanese units which cannot be divided:
- 5th division
- 48th division
- 65th brigade
On first turn, part of these units are loaded onto transports. So, just in case, I unloaded them. Confirmed: the "divide unit" button is not available.
P.S.:
as for the 16th division. You fixed it [:)] Unless you can use a "magic" software your testers and yourself will have to be er... systematic...
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RE: RHSCVO and RHSRAO Major Version 2.50 Released to testers
Andrew I checked ship 3246 CA Australia on several different versions of CHS and they do say delayed (which is what you expected). When I checked RHS 2.22 it was delayed but by RHS 2.31 it shows Calcutta. Somewhere 2.22 and 2.31 that field changed.
OK - if it should not be Calcutta - I am making it Aden - in case there is a problem with "delayed" as someone suggested. There was another ship - what was the slot?
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RE: RHSCVO and RHSRAO Major Version 2.50 Released to testers
[quote]There are more japanese units which cannot be divided:
- 5th division
- 48th division
- 65th brigade
On first turn, part of these units are loaded onto transports. So, just in case, I unloaded them. Confirmed: the "divide unit" button is not available.
P.S.:
Yes - I see 16th division works now. I am not sure units assigned to invade will divide - but they should after reassembly. There is a field problem for these units. I am not sure which field? But I know how to copy a working field (by taking the entire record from CHS177).
as for the 16th division. You fixed it
- 5th division
- 48th division
- 65th brigade
On first turn, part of these units are loaded onto transports. So, just in case, I unloaded them. Confirmed: the "divide unit" button is not available.
P.S.:
Yes - I see 16th division works now. I am not sure units assigned to invade will divide - but they should after reassembly. There is a field problem for these units. I am not sure which field? But I know how to copy a working field (by taking the entire record from CHS177).
as for the 16th division. You fixed it
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RE: RHSCVO and RHSRAO Major Version 2.50 Released to testers
El Cid Again, sorry but "after reassembly" does not work. That's why I did unload all the different parts of these units. In other words, "after reassembly" => no "divide unit" button, that's all I can say.
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RE: RHSCVO and RHSRAO Major Version 2.50 Released to testers
Oops, more "divide unit" plague [:)]
The british, indian and commonwealth brigades cannot be divided either [X(] The indian divisions can.
The british, indian and commonwealth brigades cannot be divided either [X(] The indian divisions can.
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RE: RHSCVO and RHSRAO Minor Version 2.51 Released to testers
Version 2.52:
Japanese submarines (class 652/653) Type YU (IJA Xpt)/Type YU (Improved) upgrading to class 650 Type SYS (IJN Xpt) that upgrades to class 650 Type KS. Is this realy intended?
Nelson class (1405) upgrades to Nelson class (1404) that is exactly the same.
ML Abdiel class (1594) upgrading to King George V class (1636). That is is realy an upgrade.
Japanese submarines (class 652/653) Type YU (IJA Xpt)/Type YU (Improved) upgrading to class 650 Type SYS (IJN Xpt) that upgrades to class 650 Type KS. Is this realy intended?
Nelson class (1405) upgrades to Nelson class (1404) that is exactly the same.
ML Abdiel class (1594) upgrading to King George V class (1636). That is is realy an upgrade.
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RE: RHSCVO and RHSRAO Minor Version 2.51 Released to testers
Japanese submarines (class 652/653) Type YU (IJA Xpt)/Type YU (Improved) upgrading to class 650 Type SYS (IJN Xpt) that upgrades to class 650 Type KS. Is this realy intended?
Nelson class (1405) upgrades to Nelson class (1404) that is exactly the same
The first is left over from a copy operation - and is wrong. They should be set to upgrade to own class.
The second is not my doing. If the same - it was that way in CHS.
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RE: RHSCVO and RHSRAO Major Version 2.50 Released to testers
I heard "the British empire died on the fields of Flanders in WWI" - specifically at the second battle of the Somme or something like that. Maybe they have a staff problem?The british, indian and commonwealth brigades cannot be divided either
What is all this dividing units stuff? You like to spread out?? Think it is a way to defeat nuclear weapons?
OK - will see.
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RE: RHSCVO and RHSRAO Major Version 2.50 Released to testers
El Cid Again, sorry but "after reassembly" does not work. That's why I did unload all the different parts of these units. In other words, "after reassembly" => no "divide unit" button, that's all I can say.
Do those Japanese units work now? I know 16th does - I divided it!
RE: RHSCVO and RHSRAO Major Version 2.50 Released to testers
Version 2.52:
ML Abdiel class (1594) upgrading to King George V class (1636). That is realy an upgrade!
Bellona (1598/1599) upgrade both to 1643 (London class).
ML Abdiel class (1594) upgrading to King George V class (1636). That is realy an upgrade!
Bellona (1598/1599) upgrade both to 1643 (London class).
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RE: RHSCVO and RHSRAO Major Version 2.50 Released to testers
ML Abdiel class (1594) upgrading to King George V class (1636). That is realy an upgrade!
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Shhh - this was my secret plan to defeat the IJN! This is very strange - it is right in CHS. A random field change - I hate them!
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RE: RHSCVO and RHSRAO Minor Version 2.51 Released to testers
I have load version 2.53 in the Database editor.
And have by location the following comments/suggestions (most of them of the Dutch):
1. The IJA 1st to 4th Motorized Brigade have as Wpn 7 device 311 ?
2. The Dutch Tiger Brigade has British Squads?
3. Why don't you add for the Dutch Marine Brigade and MLD Marine Brigade a Dutch Marine Squad?
4. The abrevs KNIN and KNIAF has never exist. The Dutch Navy abrev is KM (Koninklijke Marine) or RNN (Royal Netherlands Navy)The abrev ML/KNIL is used for the Dutch Airforces.
5. The Tiger And Marine Brigade is no KNIL.
6. There where also the following Dutch units active agains the Japanse.
- From 1 Augustus 1942 Korps Insulinde. A reinforced Company of Commando's, some Marines/Infantry.
- The I KNIL Bn from November 1944 in Brisbane
7. I miss Blackforce?
8. The USMC Para Bn's had never 75mm Howitzer, but 81mm Mortar.
9. The Voykov (ships) has no Nationality
10. I suggest to made The Flower Class a DE in place of PG. Then they can used by the Auto/convoys
And have by location the following comments/suggestions (most of them of the Dutch):
1. The IJA 1st to 4th Motorized Brigade have as Wpn 7 device 311 ?
2. The Dutch Tiger Brigade has British Squads?
3. Why don't you add for the Dutch Marine Brigade and MLD Marine Brigade a Dutch Marine Squad?
4. The abrevs KNIN and KNIAF has never exist. The Dutch Navy abrev is KM (Koninklijke Marine) or RNN (Royal Netherlands Navy)The abrev ML/KNIL is used for the Dutch Airforces.
5. The Tiger And Marine Brigade is no KNIL.
6. There where also the following Dutch units active agains the Japanse.
- From 1 Augustus 1942 Korps Insulinde. A reinforced Company of Commando's, some Marines/Infantry.
- The I KNIL Bn from November 1944 in Brisbane
7. I miss Blackforce?
8. The USMC Para Bn's had never 75mm Howitzer, but 81mm Mortar.
9. The Voykov (ships) has no Nationality
10. I suggest to made The Flower Class a DE in place of PG. Then they can used by the Auto/convoys
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RE: RHSCVO and RHSRAO Minor Version 2.51 Released to testers
V2.54medium for CVO-RAO-BBO Rapidshare link now posted in link page
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RE: RHSCVO and RHSRAO Minor Version 2.51 Released to testers
Hex 27,39 has a problem with the rail line definition. The rail line should connect to hex 28,39. Instead, it incorrectly connects to hex 28,38.
This is in Burma on the peninsula - toggle the 'R' key and compare it to the map art - the error will be obvious.
This is in Burma on the peninsula - toggle the 'R' key and compare it to the map art - the error will be obvious.
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RE: RHSCVO and RHSRAO Minor Version 2.51 Released to testers
El Cid Again,
"What is all this dividing units stuff? You like to spread out?? Think it is a way to defeat nuclear weapons?"
Per manual, the brigades (along with the divisions) can be divided. That was a Matrix decision.
I have to assume that you haven't changed this "rule". If you did, let us know, please.
Well, as for your question, I think it depends... Sometimes spreading may be useful, and sometimes not. Think about the historical japanese conquests (especially in the Dutch East Indies). If Dr Niehorster is correct (http://niehorster.orbat.com/), most of the time the japanese were using one regiment (detached from the "familiar" divisions: 16th, 48th, 38th, etc.) + other support units. In other words, there are no absolute rules.
Anyway, I don't have time now. I would have to "play" 3 turns: in my obsolete computer: 15 minutes each one. Then the divisions would be unloaded and I could check it out. No problem. You say you fixed it, I believe you [:)]
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Oops! I almost forgot...! The aussie brigades cannot be divided either[:D]
"What is all this dividing units stuff? You like to spread out?? Think it is a way to defeat nuclear weapons?"
Per manual, the brigades (along with the divisions) can be divided. That was a Matrix decision.
I have to assume that you haven't changed this "rule". If you did, let us know, please.
Well, as for your question, I think it depends... Sometimes spreading may be useful, and sometimes not. Think about the historical japanese conquests (especially in the Dutch East Indies). If Dr Niehorster is correct (http://niehorster.orbat.com/), most of the time the japanese were using one regiment (detached from the "familiar" divisions: 16th, 48th, 38th, etc.) + other support units. In other words, there are no absolute rules.
Anyway, I don't have time now. I would have to "play" 3 turns: in my obsolete computer: 15 minutes each one. Then the divisions would be unloaded and I could check it out. No problem. You say you fixed it, I believe you [:)]
EDIT:
Oops! I almost forgot...! The aussie brigades cannot be divided either[:D]
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