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[Hard Sarge]

LOL
not from the reports I read about it, after the BOOM, they were shocked it was still there, everybody knew it would be gone

of course, if they wanted to do it right, they should of put the Bang, under the island

[soeren01]

ORIGINAL: Hard Sarge

the bad part
is the Brits tried to sink it

make the book for the biggest non Nuke going off !!!!!

didn't work

I've seen the bomb craters made by british bombs on Helgoland. Believe me, with enough effort put in, they could have "sunk" this poor small island.

[Hard Sarge]

well lets see how we doing, the old list that I updated a few times, until it got too confuseing

the Pilot Data Base as of right now holds
1934 US Pilots
655 GB
250 Poles
124 Can
68 Cz
45 NZ
167 Fr
32 Aus
52 Du
14 Nor
24 S.Af

807 GE
175 Ro
64 It
108 Hu

new listing

2051 US
32 Aus
964 GB
131 Can
68 Czech
51 Du
285 Fr
45 NZ
16 Now
250 Pol
18 SA
61 Baz

917 GE
111 It
105 Hun
81 Rom
94 Coax

Coax are the Bulgiran, Croats and any of the other same nations, this way there get there own replacement pool and not drag off of Romy

[langley]

I just have to ask this:-

Old Listing New Listing
52 Dutch 51 Dutch
24 S.af 18 SA
175 Ro 81 rom

Why the lower values for the new listing?

MJT

[Hard Sarge]

well the Romy is easy to explain

all the Croats and Bulgrian pilots were using Romy as there nation, but we now have a Coax listing, so they are using that instead, which works well, as they now get there own replacement levels and do not have to take pilots from the Romy

of course the others are even easier to explain

mistakes and doubles

a lot of CW pilots flew for a number of different squadrons during there carreer, I find sources saying that so and so flew for this unit in aug of 43, so I place him there, seeing he is not in that squadron, then during the checks, find out that this pilot is someplace else

there was a Nor Pilot, who ended the war flying a Fightfighter, and was placed in a NF unit, but for most of 43 and half of 44, he was flying Spits, I took him out of the Night Fighter and into his Spit

in fact, there is one pilot I am hunting down, he is in 3 Squadrons (I didn't add him)

[von Shagmeister]

there was a Nor Pilot, who ended the war flying a Fightfighter, and was placed in a NF unit, but for most of 43 and half of 44, he was flying Spits, I took him out of the Night Fighter and into his Spit

Svein Heglund?

Don't forget Tarald Weisteen? He was flying with 85 Sqn as of 17Aug43 (joined unit Jul43)

Both are on the list, hope you are finding it useful.

[von Shagmeister]

in fact, there is one pilot I am hunting down, he is in 3 Squadrons (I didn't add him)

What's his name.

[Hard Sarge]

two pilots in fact

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| D.J. Scott | 3 |
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| J.R. Cock | 3 |

[Hard Sarge]

ORIGINAL: von Shagmeister

there was a Nor Pilot, who ended the war flying a Fightfighter, and was placed in a NF unit, but for most of 43 and half of 44, he was flying Spits, I took him out of the Night Fighter and into his Spit

Svein Heglund?

Don't forget Tarald Weisteen? He was flying with 85 Sqn as of 17Aug43 (joined unit Jul43)

Both are on the list, hope you are finding it useful.

sorry missed this post

he is in

yes it is

[von Shagmeister]

ORIGINAL: Hard Sarge

two pilots in fact

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| D.J. Scott | 3 |
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| J.R. Cock | 3 |

Desmond James Scott - as of 17Aug43 C/O 486 RNZAF Sqn

John Reynolds Cock - as of 17Aug43 probably flying with 54 Sqn out of Darwin. Returned to UK in 1944 and joined 3 Sqn Sep 44 as either a Flt Cdr or Supernumerary

[Hard Sarge]

ORIGINAL: von Shagmeister

ORIGINAL: Hard Sarge

two pilots in fact

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| D.J. Scott | 3 |
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| J.R. Cock | 3 |

Desmond James Scott - as of 17Aug43 C/O 486 RNZAF Sqn

John Reynolds Cock - as of 17Aug43 probably flying with 54 Sqn out of Darwin. Returned to UK in 1944 and joined 3 Sqn Sep 44 as either a Flt Cdr or Supernumerary

they fixed

[Hard Sarge]

ORIGINAL: Hard Sarge

well lets see how we doing, the old list that I updated a few times, until it got too confuseing

the Pilot Data Base as of right now holds
1934 US Pilots
655 GB
250 Poles
124 Can
68 Cz
45 NZ
167 Fr
32 Aus
52 Du
14 Nor
24 S.Af

807 GE
175 Ro
64 It
108 Hu

new listing

2051 US
32 Aus
964 GB
131 Can
68 Czech
51 Du
285 Fr
45 NZ
16 Now
250 Pol
18 SA
61 Baz

917 GE
111 It
105 Hun
81 Rom
94 Coax

Coax are the Bulgiran, Croats and any of the other same nations, this way there get there own replacement pool and not drag off of Romy

| Nationality | Count |
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| American | 2327 |
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| Australian | 36 |
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| British | 708 |
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| Canadian | 139 |
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| Co Axis | 94 |
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| Czech | 70 |
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| Dutch | 51 |
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| French | 306 |
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| German | 1120 |
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| Hungarian | 104 |
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| Italian | 111 |
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| New Zealand | 46 |
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| Norwegian | 20 |
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| Polish | 249 |
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| Rumanian | 81 |
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| So.African | 20 |
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| USSR | 1 |
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[daveballmh]

Looking at your list of new / back in aircraft, you include the SAI 207. I believe that 13 pre-production aitcraft were produced. the production order for it (2,000 machines) was superceeded by one for 3,000 SAI 403 but tooling has only just reached the initial stages when the armistice interrupted proceedings. The prototype flew in late '42 which makes it more legitimate to have that fighter producing than the G56, whose first prototype only flew in March '44

Another candidate for possible Italian production would be the MC205N Orione. The MC205N1 first flew in November '42 and the MN205N2 first flew in May '43, again making it in theory more produceable than the G56.
 
The CV F 5 - 14 pre-production machines in 1940 I believe. The CV F6M had the  Fiat produced DB605A, but pre-production was in '43 under way for the CV F6MZ using the Isotta-Fraschini Zeta, but again only a pre-production batch was being built when the armistice happened.
 
If we are going back as far as the CV F 5, why not the CR42? Indeed, in fantasy land the CR42B with the DB601. 323mph no less!

For the Hungarians you could have both the Re2000 and the locally built version, the Hejja. The latter actually I believe was once engaged in combat with the USAAF, I think in '44.

[Hard Sarge]

I would like to add the 403, if it lived up to the tests results, that could of been a interesting plane, these are some of the only (Light) planes that really seemed to work the way it was hoped,the Avia also looked like it could of been interesting, if it had been allowed to be developed
 
the G.56 is not "in" but it may be reseached
 
the 42 ? , well, I not sure if it is worth adding in a night fighter that pretty much is slower then the bombers it is going to be hunting
 
I like the 205, but I think the odds are the 55 or 2005 are going to be the ones the Player will go after, if they go after any It Models to keep in production
 
I had ideas on the Hun fighter, but the AI does not like it

[Hard Sarge]

Well, lets see how we doing pilot wise


| Nationality | Count |
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| American | 2327 |  2699 2798
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| Australian | 36 | 52 116
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| British | 708 | 949 943
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| Canadian | 139 | 188 187
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| Co Axis | 94 | 127 127
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| Czech | 70 | 70 70
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| Dutch | 51 | 51 52
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| French | 306 | 343 389
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| German | 1120 | 1367 1546
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| Hungarian | 104 | 105 105
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| Italian | 111 | 121 170
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| New Zealand | 46 | 60 59
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| Norwegian | 20 | 79 79
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| Polish | 249 | 252 246
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| Rumanian | 81 | 81 80
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| So.African | 20 | 32 32
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| USSR | 1 | 1 1
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5483/6576 (give or take another 50 that were just added)

well we up to 7000 pilots in the data base

[Hard Sarge]

Well, lets see how we doing pilot wise

| Nationality | Count |
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| American | 2327 |  2699 2798  -3123
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| Australian | 36 | 52 116    -116
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| British | 708 | 949 943    -1002
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| Canadian | 139 | 188 187   -187
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| Co Axis | 94 | 127 127    -127
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| Czech | 70 | 70 70   -70
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| Dutch | 51 | 51 52  -52
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| French | 306 | 343 389   -389
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| German | 1120 | 1367 1546   -1672
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| Hungarian | 104 | 105 105   -105
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| Italian | 111 | 121 170   -164
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| New Zealand | 46 | 60 59   -59
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| Norwegian | 20 | 79 79   -79
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| Polish | 249 | 252 246   -246
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| Rumanian | 81 | 81 80   -80
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| So.African | 20 | 32 32   -32
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| USSR | 1 | 1 1    -1
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Well we getting there
 
7500 +
 
 

[Hard Sarge]

not bad since the first post

1934 US Pilots
655 GB
250 Poles
124 Can
68 Cz
45 NZ
167 Fr
32 Aus
52 Du
14 Nor
24 S.Af
807 GE
175 Ro
64 It
108 Hu

[Javakamp]

ORIGINAL: Hard Sarge

Well, lets see how we doing pilot wise

| Nationality | Count |
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| American | 2327 |  2699 2798  -3123
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| Australian | 36 | 52 116    -116
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| British | 708 | 949 943    -1002
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| Canadian | 139 | 188 187   -187
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| Co Axis | 94 | 127 127    -127
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| Czech | 70 | 70 70   -70
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| Dutch | 51 | 51 52  -52
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| French | 306 | 343 389   -389
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| German | 1120 | 1367 1546   -1672
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| Hungarian | 104 | 105 105   -105
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| Italian | 111 | 121 170   -164
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| New Zealand | 46 | 60 59   -59
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| Norwegian | 20 | 79 79   -79
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| Polish | 249 | 252 246   -246
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| Rumanian | 81 | 81 80   -80
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| So.African | 20 | 32 32   -32
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| USSR | 1 | 1 1    -1
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Well we getting there

7500 +

What do the columns mean?

[Hard Sarge]

Welllllll
 
the first one is the nation
 
the numbers are the number of pilots in the game for that nation
 
so like French, we are up to 389 pilots flying for the French Squadrons
 
(now a Frenchmen flying in a US or RAF Squadron, would show up as US or GB)
 
 

[ClaudeJ]

I'm not sure to understand everything but it seems that you have no belgian pilot at all?
If it's technically possible to include them, just tell me what infos you need and i'll do my best to help.
regards,
Jan