If you could have one Allied A/C...

[Speedysteve]

How about a Tomcat?[;)]

[Terminus]

Already done (for Skyraiders and Tomcats both)...

[TheElf]

Don't limit the discussion to late war. There are plenty of underrepresented Aircraft in the game now that had many variants. Some were more common in the PTO, but due to limited slots are not in the game now.

[mdiehl]

The Japanese Jets (not sure what they were called)

They made a prototype inferior knockoff of the ME-262 that made it to the equivalent of "x-designation" that they were unable to build owing to lack of strategic resources. The also had an ME-163 knock off prototype that never flew. Of the two, it's more plausible that they'd have been able to build ME-163s because they were designed not to use strategic resources and had a very simple hypergolic rocket motor.

[mdiehl]

Youd also want the A1 Skyraider in the late war US OOB if it went to late 1945-1946+.

[greg_slith]

Especially with going after the bridges of toko-ri[:D]. How about copters?

[mdiehl]

specially with going after the bridges of toko-ri

Heh! [:D]

[greg_slith]

How about the cannon armed B-25 or real rocket lauchers?

[Terminus]

ORIGINAL: mdiehl

The Japanese Jets (not sure what they were called)

They made a prototype inferior knockoff of the ME-262 that made it to the equivalent of "x-designation" that they were unable to build owing to lack of strategic resources. The also had an ME-163 knock off prototype that never flew. Of the two, it's more plausible that they'd have been able to build ME-163s because they were designed not to use strategic resources and had a very simple hypergolic rocket motor.

Actually, the Shusui (Jap Komet) did fly. All of one time...

[mdiehl]

Huh. Well call me Reptilicus and make me into a B-movie!

[Terminus]

What's Reptilicus got to do with anything?

[BLUESBOB]

Since the game has the possibility of going to March, 1946, what planes would be available to both sides at that time?

[Terminus]

F7F and F8F, for sure. The Tigercat was operational with Marine squadrons before VJ-Day, and the first Navy fighter squadron with Bearcats was enroute to the Western Pacific when the war ended.

Japan would have been hard pressed to field new aircraft with the destruction of her industrial base, but the Ki-83, Kikka and Shusui were all possibilities in small numbers.

[Terminus]

Another one the Japanese were working on was the Nakajima Ki-115 Tsurugi, a purpose-built kamikaze aircraft. It was meant to be constructed by unskilled labour, and flown by minimally trained pilots, but ironically enough its design made it exceptionally difficult to fly for even experienced airmen.

[BLUESBOB]

See...that's whats interesting about how the game is set-up. What if Japanese production is NOT hurting in 1945? Or 1944? Or 1946? If the Japanese player is able to hold on to areas he needs to continue to get raw materials, and his production has not been impacted by Allied advances...shouldn't the Japanese player get everything that COULD have come his way?

[Mifune]

Actually the IJN's Nakajima J8N1 Kikka though inspired was smaller than the Me-262. It also had folding wings. The IJA was developing the Nakajima Ki-201 Karyu, which was a much closer model to the Me-262. These jets were designed with unskilled labor in mind. What delayed Japanese jets was their developement of turbojet engines since they had no experience with them and were working from drawings and photographs that the Germans had provided.

[TheElf]

This thread is pretty simple....

If you could have one Allied Aircraft added to the game...

....What would it be?

[YankeeAirRat]

How about the F3F. They were still in squadron service with a few of the USMC fighter units (and some USN units if I remember reading right) when the war started. They were replaced with F2A's or F4F's. Where the F3F's became the "fast" trainer for the fleet before new fighter pilots hit the training squadrons or thier fleet squadrons.

I would also humbly submit the Beech Staggerwing. To represent the US Civil Air Patrol (aka USAAF Air Auxillary) which flew a number of costal scouting, ASW, and Naval Search missions through out the war both in CONUS and in a few of the terroritories. They achieved the kill of about 3-4 German subs on the Atlantic coast, if I remember reading about them right.

finally how about the P2Y built by Consolidated Aircraft (click for link to pictures). To represent how some of the USCG units were equipped when the war started. They were still flying the P2Y up till early 1942 when they were phased out for the PBY or other aircraft like the Grumman Goose or Widgeon.

Just 3 of my ideas.

[Andrew Brown]

ORIGINAL: TheElf

This thread is pretty simple....

If you could have one Allied Aircraft added to the game...

....What would it be?

I still think that the A-29 is worth adding...

[Belce]

A Mosquito bomber formation along with the recon and FB versions of the plane.

My Dad navigated and was bomb aimer as well on those, when we were talking in a history class I took with a WW2 vet he said "Those were the elite of the elite" My Dad also completed several other tours from 1941 to the end in other aircraft, including Wellingtons, Stirlings and Lancasters.

When the war ended in Europe he was being prepped for deployment to India and that was only changed with Japan's surrender. He was later posted to Berlin as RAF attache to the French military governor.