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RE: War summary for the first two months

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Greetings Jim, thanks for useful info....

Yes, you are right. I had a discussion with Andy and he told me that he waiting for finishing October upgrading.

We both didn't lost any carrier.

I expect him at Australia too as well in the Marshalls. If i were him i would go for Marshalls and Australia than straight to Wake, Marcus/ SRA.

ANDY:
Between th October Upgrade cycle and getting stronger the lopnger I am quiet Ihad no intention of attacking there was nothing vital threatened I have good position in the Gilberts so I had no real need.  My Carriers have ben covering convoys from the West Coast You missed your opportunity you still have the combat advantage in late 42 by
sitting quiet you have lost a chance to force me to bring my toys out to play unless you threaten
somewhere I am going to just sit quiet.
You should have tried to retake Tarawa at least and forced me into a fight inthe Gilberts with
only 2 or 3 bases close by  IMO



ME:
You might be right. However, i don't think that assaulting Tarawa and Apamama would be wise. I don't
think that KB could hold against your LBA + Am CVs + British CVs. And you have a plenty of troops
there....

I could re-take these islands but at what cost? You can affort yourself  to loose acarrier or two,
but i could not (except for a extremly important base, but i don't think that Tar and Apa worth a
risk).

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/05/42

I've sent fighters on sweep this time....

Day Air attack on Yunan , at 38,32

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 14
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 21
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 36
Ki-21 Sally x 39
Ki-49 Helen x 37
Ki-46-II Dinah x 5

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 7
Runway hits 46

Chungking is not forgotten...

Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 71
Ki-49 Helen x 39
Ki-46-II Dinah x 6

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
169 casualties reported

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 64

Here is one of my replacement Zero groups (i have one more daitai at double strength). I'm planing to train at least one Zero daitai to the maximum (99exp) while i have time. Taiho and Unryus are coming and i want to have their fighter groups filled with crack pilots!
 
Two CVE escorted with several Kagero class DD heading to Home islands - they are scheduled for upgrade in January.
 

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RE: War summary for the first two months

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Hi Pauk,
 
how do you achieve that you have 36 planes and 49 pilots in the group? Its very useful because in this stage of training when group loose a pilot it receive no green replacement.
 
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RE: War summary for the first two months

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Hi,
you will achieve this by dispanding of other chutais/daitais. Planes above the max unit size will be moved to reserve. And if there will be too much of them, they will be slowly send back to pool. The pilots will stay in the unit.
 
I prefer to disband other units fragments instead of the whole units, because this way you have original unit still on map, ready to suck green pilots and train them instead of waiting 90days for reforming. But such micromanagement eats your nerves. Matter of taste I would say.
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Yes, I want to avoid disbanding groups (except disbanding groups to reinforce carriers air units).

So basically you are moving units around map and when some planes are damaged and left behind - you disband this fragments into other unit, right?
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RE: War summary for the first two months

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well, yes. that is one possibility. the hard way I woud say [:)]
I prefer this one with PDU on:
daitai A with 36 80xp pilots/planes
daitai Bwith 36 80xp pilot/planes
 
daitai A changes the plane type to same type as datai B, all planes are damaged. Next turn 1-3 planes are repaired. Daitai A is moved away with only 1-3 planes. Daitai A fragment is dispanded into Daitai B.
Now you have Daitai A with 1-3 planes/pilots ready to suck newbies and repeat training and Daitai B with about 70 80xp pilots.
If you have ready another daitai/chutai with less planes then its max size, you can fill the Daitai B with these procedure by  whatever desired amount of green pilots.
 
Hope Pauk will not kick us out of his AAR [;)]  This more for war room..
 
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Thanks,

since I have only 1 PBEM running with PDU off, the option you described never came to my mind. [:)]
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RE: War summary for the first two months

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In your case the best way would be to place unit into some base with 0 AV support and put it on 90 cap/ or ASW. In a few turns most of the planes will be damaged/in reserve. Much better than jumping from base to base to damage planes. With PDU off It will take you more time but is worth of the effort. You should check it with your opponent. This way you will avoid those 90days waiting and your training will be much faster. It is leetle bit gamey..[:'(]
But according to my experinece there is no any significant difference till mid 42 where I´m now. I´m expecting main payback in later years.. Even for allied player the game should be more interesting..
 
 
 
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nice trick
never thought of it
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RE: War summary for the first two months

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hah, nice one with PDU Jumper

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/07/42

Air campaign against China in the progres. Chengtu and Chungking are closed. Yunan AF is damaged but still operational. Next turn bombers will atttack Kunming. I prefer to keep these AFs damaged so both of them will draw supply for repair.

Once when i establish air base at Kweiyang (base support units arrived this turn) i will attack Kunming from Kwei and Yunan from Hanoi.

Andy finally moves his subs at Cebu islands but my ASW force did not find his subs. One strong ASW TF is on their way to Cebu island.


Few enemy units advancing on southern OZ railroad where my BF have mission to delay the enemy.
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RE: War summary for the first two months

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One question
{Here is one of my replacement Zero groups (i have one more daitai at double strength). I'm planing to train at least one Zero daitai to the maximum (99exp) while i have time. Taiho and Unryus are coming and i want to have their fighter groups filled with crack pilots! }
How do/can you train experienced pilots up to 99 exp?
To quote from Evans/Peattie`s {Kaigun}
"Mistakes in operations and tactics can be corrected, but
political and strategic mistakes live forever". The authors were refering to Japan but the same could be said of the US misadventure in Iraq
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RE: War summary for the first two months

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I'm using isolated Allied (occupied) bases for training. I set my fighters on ground or airfield or port attack and they gain experience. Once they reach 60 exp things are going to slow down and it would take a couple of months (six?) until they reach 99.

Forming a ultimate crack air group is possible only if your opponent playing Sir Robin and he is totally inactive. Otherwise i would be forced to use fighter daitais on frontlines.

(NOTE TO READERS: please don't start disscusion that is totally unhistorical/unrealistical. I think this is a nice pay off. Allies run in their holes and waits for 1943 and brand new toys and Jap get a chance to train their fighter groups).

Here is a map which would, i hope, help for following war summary in the first two months (post 494.)


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Andy was quite active with Z force and sunk couple of transports, two CLs and couple of DDs near Kendari. I've return the favour but neither of us lost any capital ships in DEI.
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RE: War summary for the first two months

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you will have great ops losses - in my opinion it is not worth to go higher than 80
even 75 is enough as later each pilots lost to accidents need few next flights
i noticed sth like 1.5-2% ops losses during training against  no enemy
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pauk

How did you get so far till jan 1st in Malaya? Did you have more landings like Kuantan, or just beefed up Khota Baru? 

I see that you have not taken Tarawa and stuff isnt your opponent huirting you from there (LBA and stuff)?

I need any advice regarding achievable objectives cuz I really screwd it last time, by wanting everything immediately.
 
I see now, you arent using historical 1st turn, well my question stands for hist 1st turn and afterwards. THX in advance.
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Strange planes in China, Chiba says

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hi Sneer,

You are probably right but i will try - i need those pilots for Taiho and Unryus because i expect Andy would wait for next couple of months. I want to have chance against his carriers. Don't know if would help it but i need to try...


Ursa MAior:

NO, i've played conservative in Malaya. Landings at Khota Baru and advancing from Songhia. Andy chooses to defend at Johore Baru and withdrew to this base. Landing on Kuatan is risk unless you don't have KB in Malaya (that's means attack on Singapore on turn 1). I believe that you will find more details in AAR first page.



AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/08/42

Unfortunatly, Andy learns lesson and brings DMSs at Apamama. Pitty, i mined harbour yesterday with 10 subs including two minelaying subs.


TF 1039 encounters mine field at Apamama (86,92)

Allied Ships
DMS Long
DMS Perry
DMS Dorsey


CHINA

Meanwhile, air campaign in China continues. Chinese units withdrew to Chungking and it require maximum effort to keep AF closed down.

Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 9
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 23
Ki-21 Sally x 58
Ki-46-II Dinah x 4

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
153 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 46


33rd Fighter Sentai (equiped with Tony) is based at Sian. Their mission is protecting Army bombers which regulary attacking Chengtu AF. It was supposed to be another routine mission, but...

Top IJAAF pilot Chiba is now stationed in Japan and he is spending a time with his lovely wife, as you may recall. But his younger brother Bonsai Chiba is still on the frontline...

Dear brother,

Yesterday we were on routine mission to Chengtu. My comrades from 33rd and me didn't expect enemy opposition in the air - veterans from our Sentai still telling us stories about last air campaign in the China where 59th Sentai achived glorius victory against white merecenaries. I feels that my comrades have a great respect for me, but I'm not suprised. My brother is central figure in every tale, my brother is top IJAAF ace!...

As i said, we didn't expect enemy but near Chengtu enemy aircrafts appears suddently! I was confused because i never saw such aircrafts before. After initial shock we took our position and dives on wierd enemy planes. The combat was brutal and we shot down four enemy monsters without a single loss in my Sentai. I didn't score, my mission was protecting Hashimoto. He shot down two enemy beasts, but he told me latter that this wouldn't be possible without me! He added, i felt my back was safe and i could concentrate on these strange enemy planes. My hart was full of pride and i barely sustain the tears...my dear brother, i'm eager to go in another fights against white mercenaries but i promise that i would be careful. Somehow i feels that we are going to face with more unknown enemy ac in the feature,

Banzai, Bonsai




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NOTE: newcomers from 45th sentai are bomber pilots...


Day Air attack on Chengtu , at 41,29

Japanese aircraft
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 34
Ki-21 Sally x 65
Ki-46-II Dinah x 5

Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-38G Lightning: 4 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 45



Ground combat at 45,30 - two more divisions arrives and hope that enemy wont last for to much longer.


Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 26311 troops, 262 guns, 141 vehicles, Beginning Assault Value = 1025

Defending force 3991 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Beginning Assault Value = 102

Japanese max assault: 586 - adjusted assault: 260

Allied max defense: 78 - adjusted defense: 3

Japanese assault odds: 86 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
92 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
263 casualties reported



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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/09/42

CHINA

Army bombers visited Yunan today. No enemy opposition in the air. I guess that Andy founds 4-0 score in Tony favour unacceptable.


Day Air attack on Yunan , at 38,32

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 18
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 17
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 18
Ki-21 Sally x 54
Ki-49 Helen x 54
Ki-46-II Dinah x 4

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 77


According to recon, Yunan AF is at 48 damage.

Ground combat at 45,30 - Sian-Ichang-Chungking crossroad is cleared. My units west of crossroads can normally resupply now.

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 48084 troops, 475 guns, 155 vehicles, Assault Value = 1025

Defending force 3505 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 76

Japanese max assault: 1016 - adjusted assault: 642

Allied max defense: 48 - adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 642 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
58 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
6346 casualties reported - 56th Chinese corps surrenders!



INDIA/BURMA

Day Air attack on TF, near Chandpur at 30,25

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 3 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Texan
AK Oregonian, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AK Montanan, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage - SINKS!



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AUSTRALIA

Enemy advancing carefully at Perth-South Australia railroad. One US tk unit and one RTC or something unit forced remains of BF to retreat. I'm moving mix bde and tk rtg south from Perth-south Australia-Derby junction.

IMPERIAL HQ NEWS SHEET

11th Independent brigade relased from China Exp. Army and attached to Southern Area Army. Independant bde will guard Soerbaya, while 65th bde will be send to reinforce Derby/Broome area.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/10/42

Despite the fact that i'm the best Japanese strategist ever[8|] i can not fight against Godess Fortuna!... When i run the turn, i thought... excellent....


PACIFIC

Two enemy AKs found their way to my mines but i realised latter - damage is pathetic...

TF 1049 encounters mine field at Apamama (86,92)

Allied Ships
AK Steel Ranger, Mine hits 1
AK Tuscaloosa City, Mine hits 1


INDIA/BURMA

Perfect planing and my raiders found the enemy once again! hehe, i thought, i will teach Andy a lesson "don't send unescorted ships to the frontline".

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Night Time Surface Combat at 26,24

Japanese Ships
CL Abukuma
DD Makinami, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Kuretake

Allied Ships
AK Empire Impala, Shell hits 18, on fire, heavy damage
AK Empire Glade, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
AK Empire Kingsley
AK Empire Flamingo
AK Empire Hunter
AK Empire Haven, Shell hits 4, on fire
AK Empire Trust
AK Empire Ranger


My commander is skilled one and he crossed the T and pathetic enemy transports were forced to respond with front mounted guns. But, this message means nothing obviously (i've noticed that several times before)[8|]

Abukuma done her job hiting Impala and Glade. But one of enemy transports hit new and expensive DD Makinami (DD equiped with radars). Kuretake remain silent... after all my commader just crossed the T[8|]...

The battle was over and i thought, ok she will make it to Rangoon after i saw CR... unfortunatly it seems that Makinami spent all of ops points and didn't move back during night phase...

She was easy target for enemy DB from Diamond Harbour...at least 2 Dauntless are lost due ops losses - phew! (overall air losess for today are 13-5)

Day Air attack on TF at 26,25

Allied aircraft
SBD Dauntless x 15

Allied aircraft losses
SBD Dauntless: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Makinami, Bomb hits 8, on fire, heavy damage


My subs still looking for enemy conwoy, while 4 DDs will wait for one more turn and then will try to engage the enemy.


CHINA

Yunan and Kunming AFs are now moderatly damaged (30-45) and Andy doesn't have many units in these bases. I need to rest my bombers but i'm confindent i would be able to close down last two operational Chinese AFs!


Day Air attack on Kunming , at 39,33

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 54
Ki-49 Helen x 54

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
38 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 22
Airbase supply hits 10
Runway hits 95

All bombing at 6000 feet



Chungking was attacked with 240 Army bombers, Chengtu with 35. I will tranform China in the Moon!


AUSTRALIA

Another push on the south Australian railroad. We are waiting for enemy....

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Don't worry
it will be ok
and about surface combat .... lot has been written about combat routine
 
 
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RE: Strange planes in China, Chiba says

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yeah, i recall thread started by Tom Hunter... unfortunatly no one listen to him....

dont worry? and you are referring to?

What would you advise me: upgrade my Navy in Feburary 43 or wait for Andy one or two months?(he could try to exploit that upgrade)?

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RE: Strange planes in China, Chiba says

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worry about outcome of this war ...[;)]
about upgrade .... I had big fears but fortunately Raverdave cooperated and i can make it - but in my situation i will probably wait for allied upgrades time cos there will be less to hunt
Truth is that you need it but you need decisive battle even more and now enemy has foothold in Cen Pac so further offensive moves in Marshalls are possible within next 4-5 months
if only you could convince him you are upgrading ......
but you have at least 3 months to decide
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RE: Strange planes in China, Chiba says

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hehe... i'm not worried about outcome of the war. My Empire will last for another 1000 years[;)][:D]

hmph... are you proposing propaganda?[:D] Yes, i have a three months to decide...

What i will do is upgrade 2 Taiyo class CVE (one arrives with 1/43 upgrade[&:]) and Kagero class DDs....
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