? on surrender

[freeboy]

total newb ? rer the surrender issue, read in the manual that if you occupy and defeat the enmy in the capital, they surrender, lay downn thier arms and all there prov become yours.. BUT I keep getting surrender by Austria, to my France and nothing happens afterward other than my units auto withdraw to france? HELP ME AURGH!

[Southern Hunter]

When you force Austria to Surrender, unless you had declared 'total war' (generally a mistake), you then get the opportunity to sit down with the defeated nation and draw up a treaty. You have to create this treaty, with the first clause being 'Terms of Surrender' for Austria. That gives you a certain number of points with which you can go 'shopping' for provinces, money, units, disarming, alliances, etc.

Hunter

[freeboy]

ok, so I need to declare totall was with a diplomate? I understand there are ohter considerations.. but in order to gain this territory?

[ericbabe]

From the Diplomacy Advisor screen choose the "Make New Treaty" tab at the bottom.  If you have recently defeated a nation in war, then you'll have a certain number of "Victory Points" with which to construct a treaty and impose it on that player as "Terms of Surrender."  Be careful not to include clauses that affect other nations in such a treaty, for if you do this, then those other nations will have the option of declining your treaty proposal.

[freeboy]

k, so back to the ? I first posted, the manual states these guys are supposed to lay down all arms and surrender all territory, so how does this happen, Total war? if yes then how do I get there ? I tried to right click on the country and send a diploma help// great game btw, good bleand of easy as pie to pick up and hard to master

[ericbabe]

Thanks for the kind words.  I hope there's not a section in the manual that claims that a defeated nation will lose all occupied territory -- if this is so, then that is an error in the manual.  This happens during "Total War", but not during a regular war.

[freeboy]

lets try this again.. how do I get to total war, I assume this is not a different game but a type of war inside cog?

[Southern Hunter]

RIght click on the country and see your options, including declaration of war or total war

[freeboy]

thanks, I think that you are restricted from changing from at war to total war.. makes sense.. seems that it is ok to crush them and get territories etc at the peace tables.. neat