Saddam's Final Gamble

Norm Koger's The Operational Art of War III is the next game in the award-winning Operational Art of War game series. TOAW3 is updated and enhanced version of the TOAW: Century of Warfare game series. TOAW3 is a turn based game covering operational warfare from 1850-2015. Game scale is from 2.5km to 50km and half day to full week turns. TOAW3 scenarios have been designed by over 70 designers and included over 130 scenarios. TOAW3 comes complete with a full game editor.

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RE: Saddam's Final Gamble

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The F-117 was brought down during the Kosovo war in 99, by an SA-3. Supposedly, the pilot dipped below the clouds (that particular campaign was plagued by unending crap weather), and the missile battery fired on backup optical direction. Kablammo!

Hmm..

I read an interview of the SAM battery commander. He said that the Americans were using the same routes over and over, so he moved his battery to line him up directly in their path. He did use optical guidance, from what he said, but that was so as to not warn the pilot by turning on his radar.

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Yeah, well... The US would say the weather was to blame, and the Serbs would say that the Americans were predictable.
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Yeah, well... The US would say the weather was to blame, and the Serbs would say that the Americans were predictable.

It does sound pretty plausible. The stealth aircraft have this reputation for invulnerability, and the Serbs have one for military incompetence. I can definitely see the USAF getting cocky and paying for it.
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Absolutely didn't say it wasn't plausible. Just listing the knee-jerk explanations that both sides would offer.
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Thought they "fixed that."

Wasn't the complaint that missiles were too ineffective?

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We're looking at it.

Turn 9:

Apaches - 46
Tornados - 12
A-10's - 2
B-52 - 5
B-1B - 6
F-15 - 5
Hornet's - 22

We got this check from Saddam, and now nobody can't complain that SAMs don't work [;)] Actually, not all aircraft are 100% lost, a significant % is only damaged and returned to the replacement pool.

I believe this is now fixed.
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