Over 300 scenarios

[hermanhum]

That's a good overview of the Harpoon3 scenarios currently available. However, the most important part of the question was missed.

ORIGINAL: Vincenzo Beretta

This makes me wonder: do the scenarios designed for DB2000 and all the other third-party DBs need checking/rebuilding before guaranteeing full compatibility with ANW? IIRC, they were designed for the old Harpoon 3.

Is that a "Yes" or "No"?

Can users grab scenarios 'off the shelf' from any fan site and run them with problem-free ease, or is it a matter of 'caveat emptor' [buyer beware]?

[mikmykWS]

I think its case by case and probably not to nice to put AGSI or Matrix on the spot about it as fan scenarios are the responsibility of the fan site not Matrix or AGSI. Less whining and carrying on, more updating and fixing. Be classy.

[hermanhum]

That must be the longest "NO" answer in history!  [:D]

However, it is a definite answer.  Thank you.

So, anyone trying third-party user-made scenarios for the older Harpoon 3.6.3 version with the ANW engine are doing so at their own risk.  [8D]

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[mikmykWS]

Reading comprehension was never the boys strongpoint.

Thank you Dale but don't pay him no mind. I don't[;)]

[destruya]

I'm having trouble getting DB2000 scenarios to show up in the selection box.

I can select them manually through the "Load File" menu, but it'd be nice to be able to access them from the scenario selection screen, especially considering the sheer NUMBER of DB2000 scenarios there are.

[mikmykWS]

Harpoon ANW generates of standalone.dsd (these kinds of files are the battleset files) however I'm not sure how to generate them. Seems mine was automatic at some point. JP or Dale any idea?

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[destruya]

No XML file in the DB2000 directory. I just downloaded the file directly off HHQ...where do I get the XML file, or do I merely copy it over from the ANW directory?

[jpkoester1]

ORIGINAL: mikmyk

Harpoon ANW generates of standalone.dsd (these kinds of files are the battleset files) however I'm not sure how to generate them. Seems mine was automatic at some point. JP or Dale any idea?

The standalone.dsd file is created by the launcher. Please use the H3 Configuration utility to load Harpoon 3 and your standalone scenarios should appear in the scenario selection screen.

Cheers,
JP

[jpkoester1]

ORIGINAL: destruya

No XML file in the DB2000 directory. I just downloaded the file directly off HHQ...where do I get the XML file, or do I merely copy it over from the ANW directory?

The xml file is not 100% required for the Launcher to do its work. If the .xml file is present it will allow the Launcher to display extended information about the database in the Database Tab, however, this does not effect core functionality.

Cheers,
JP

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[destruya]

Well, I can live without the description - but how do I get the scenario selection box to "read" the scenario folders so I don't have to manually load them from the "Load File" menu?

[jpkoester1]

ORIGINAL: destruya

Well, I can live without the description - but how do I get the scenario selection box to "read" the scenario folders so I don't have to manually load them from the "Load File" menu?

1. Hit The windows start button
2. Programs
3. Harpoon 3 Advanced Naval Warfare
4. Extras
5. Harpoon 3 Configurator Launcher
6. The Launcher starts and appears on your screen
7. You should see 4 buttons labelled RUN. Hit the top right one (Harpoon 3 Single Player)
8. Harpoon 3 ANW starts and voila Your scenarios are accessible.

The files needed for standalone scenarios to be accessible are created by the configuration launcher and will then be available to the game even if not launched with the launcher. You will need to do this again if you switch databases or add more scenarios.

Cheers,
JP

[destruya]

Nice. The only folder coming up is "Standalone Scenarios," though. I've got the ones I've downloaded in their own folders - the standalones I have on their own in the "Scenario" directory itself. Is there any way to get the game to recognize the others in the folders? Having to cherry pick from a single list might be...interesting. [X(]


I've got them in sub-eight letter directory names conforming to the old DOS style (since I remember H2's limitations)...

I've got DRAGON, LLTSHAH, NWO, STNDALN, and WW3_xx (xx = 85, 87, and 89).

...or am I making much ado about nothing?

[jpkoester1]

ORIGINAL: destruya

Nice. The only folder coming up is "Standalone Scenarios," though. I've got the ones I've downloaded in their own folders - the standalones I have on their own in the "Scenario" directory itself. Is there any way to get the game to recognize the others in the folders? Having to cherry pick from a single list might be...interesting. [X(]


I've got them in sub-eight letter directory names conforming to the old DOS style (since I remember H2's limitations)...

I've got DRAGON, LLTSHAH, NWO, STNDALN, and WW3_xx (xx = 85, 87, and 89).

...or am I making much ado about nothing?

You can do that with an external application like the battleset creator I programmed. I'll see what I can do to host it somewhere. For now you can just send me a PM with your email and I'll send it over.

Cheers,
JP

[hermanhum]

I'd be wary about playing ANY scens for the moment. This message was posted by VCDH on the Mantis Bug tracking system just prior to public access no longer being available:

[blockquote] VCDH
06-21-06 22:45

QUOTE removed at request of AGSI . [/blockquote]

If you are able to play, great. However, this appears to be a total scen killer with the probability of affecting Each And Every Harpoon 3 scen currently in existence.

This message is the first Public notification of this problem since Mantis is now a private system.

[destruya]

I've been noticing some very annoying hard (but temporary) locks when the game starts up - this would explain a lot.

[hermanhum]

The behavior I saw and reported wasn't so severe.

I didn't see it lock up anything. However, the bug seems (to me) to affect the ability of the AI or AI-Controlled missions to execute effectively. I think that it is the same one I reported.

IMO, this means that the AI controlled units fail to attack you effectively. If you have a walk-over in a particular scenario, this might explain it. The AI just can't close the distance to attack you! [:D] My sample test was reported for ships. I don't know what the other folks reported since Mantis is no longer publicly accessible.

It doesn't crash (at least not in my experience). I've seen lots of DB changes that have had serious effects on pre-existing scenarios. For example, one DB change caused all the MiG-31 Foxhounds in pre-existing scenarios to become unarmed! Yes, that's what happened. They all reverted to "Minimal" [Unarmed] loadout. This meant that when they tried to intercept the player, they would try to do it with guns instead of the super dangerous AA-9 Amos.

You wouldn't know it if you played the scen. You would just see the Foxhounds coming out at you and getting shot to pieces. There were some mighty surprised folks when those scenarios finally got fixed! [;)]

[jpkoester1]

ORIGINAL: hermanhum

I'd be wary about playing ANY scens for the moment. This message was posted by VCDH on the Mantis Bug tracking system just prior to public access no longer being available:

<removed stupid quote>

If you are able to play, great. However, this appears to be a total scen killer with the probability of affecting Each And Every Harpoon 3 scen currently in existence.

This message is the first Public notification of this problem since Mantis is now a private system.

You know Herman,

and guess why we took access down?. This is exactly the kind of thig that has led to the decision of restricting access to Mantis (and personally it pisses me off mightily). The bug has been mentioned on this forum here and yes, it is there and yes, it is a problem we are working on. In fact we are already testing a fix, but it is not ready for public release yet. Adding words like "total scen killer" and "Each And Every Harpoon 3 scen currently in existence" is not helpful to anyone either.

The Mantis bugtracking system was implemented as a tool to help testers and programmers to work together more effectively. It is an INTERNAL tool that we have in the past run very openly to give the Harpoon community the possibility to gain an insight into the going-ons and the issues we are addressing. Many people have taken this opportunity to constructively contribute and help us solve the problems. However you specifically refuse to take part in that process.

Instead you

• rip contributors' quotes from this INTERNAL tool that has specific terms of use that prohibit you to do so
• add a direct link into the bugtracking system that has terms of use that prohibit you to do so
• push your (apparently not very positive) point of view about ANW on every Harpoon 3 forum you have access to (I know, that is something I just have to deal with, but it is just pissing me off greatly that so many people get such a bad first impression of the product - which I believe to be a good product - because of your posts) You know that this is costing AGSI and Matrix sales that are needed to continue developing Harpoon 3.
• incite negative feelings towards Harpoon 3 ANW by using and then bolding, underlining and italicisig every negative buzzword you can think of

And in the end, I have to admit you are very good at it, you manage to do all this and put on a mask of innocense and helpfullness (maybe you even believe it yourself). However, this stuff is just going to far even for my taste (and I am one of the most relaxed, laid back people I know).

Our bugtracking system can only be effective if people feel safe in posting their oppinion on certain aspects of the game WITHOUT having to justify themselves on every Harpoon forum out there. There are always differing viewpoints on the severity of a bug or about a certain approach to fixing it or the order in which issues should be addressed. This shit posted here is hurting our effort to do a good job there.

I have so far refused to get involved in all the pitty bickering that's going on in the Harpoon community, but man, I really needed to vent on this. Thank you all for enduring this post, I feel better now, and I will go back to real life.

JP

PS.: This is me posting as a private person and not as an AGSI employee