He got 3 or 4 hits nothing critical apologies to those awaiting the screenshots I promised yesterday I will do it tonight.
Andy
Andy Mac v PZB ....The Allies Fight Back
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RE: Operation Minotaur
i'm really interested where is point of pain as far as allied logistics is concerned
how many AKs can allied loose before their transport capacity start slowing down offensives
how many AKs can allied loose before their transport capacity start slowing down offensives
RE: Operation Minotaur
When you have so much supplies raids won´t really matter at all. Maybe I am just a little paranoid with Pzb´s abilities.
Sorry for being a pain asking you for being a little less aggressive but a little more secure play. I am quite sure you are a competent player and do everything right.
Sorry for being a pain asking you for being a little less aggressive but a little more secure play. I am quite sure you are a competent player and do everything right.
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RE: Operation Minotaur
Hmmm Sneer I think that point was achieved in 43 I had a 3 month hiatus where I didnt transport a single soldier but had to dedicate everything I had to cargo hauling to keep my AF flying.
The reason for the huge surplus now is
a. due to Nomad's stockpiling that is still standing me in good stead in place like New Cal and Tarawa.
b. I stopped shipping forward Seabees and have about 50 of them piled up at San Fran
c. Everything that could float and haul supplies has been doing so but it has not been without compromises. i.e. fuel in SWPAC is pretty low now I have been prioritising CENTPAC I can afford to build a surplus in only one theatre.
I was a little flippant earlier with Frank's comments when I said 50 AK's didnt matter. I was wrong every AK is vital at this stage what I should have said is that the lack of 50 AK's would not cripple Thunderchild it would however delay by up to 60 - 90 days minimum the next major Corps level SWPAC offensive that I am currently considering.
I wont lay it out yet as it is a germ of an idea and I want to see how Tinian goes before I even begin to stockpile for it.
Andy
The reason for the huge surplus now is
a. due to Nomad's stockpiling that is still standing me in good stead in place like New Cal and Tarawa.
b. I stopped shipping forward Seabees and have about 50 of them piled up at San Fran
c. Everything that could float and haul supplies has been doing so but it has not been without compromises. i.e. fuel in SWPAC is pretty low now I have been prioritising CENTPAC I can afford to build a surplus in only one theatre.
I was a little flippant earlier with Frank's comments when I said 50 AK's didnt matter. I was wrong every AK is vital at this stage what I should have said is that the lack of 50 AK's would not cripple Thunderchild it would however delay by up to 60 - 90 days minimum the next major Corps level SWPAC offensive that I am currently considering.
I wont lay it out yet as it is a germ of an idea and I want to see how Tinian goes before I even begin to stockpile for it.
Andy
RE: Operation Minotaur
Frank caution is good but I need to attack and attack quickly and keep up the pressure every day I goive PZB to fort up is that much harder.......also if I don't subdue Japan before late 45 Churchill has informed me the Soviets may make a grab for the Far East you see he really disnae trust em !!!!!
RE: Operation Minotaur
i asked because i sunk allied 250 AKs and 50 TK/AOs till that moment - looks like it would be far better to me to concentrate on allied merchant fleet than warships - as there is more than enough warships as reinforcements to Raverdave
RE: Operation Minotaur
442 AK's
48 AP's
3 AO's
36 TK's
If I were you sneer hit his tankers I am struggling as it is to dump enough fuel forward !!!!
48 AP's
3 AO's
36 TK's
If I were you sneer hit his tankers I am struggling as it is to dump enough fuel forward !!!!
RE: Operation Minotaur
IJA Counterattack on my newly aquired AF's !!!!
He is getting irritating with these strikes on the side
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 05/07/44
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Day Air attack on Kweiyang , at 41,35
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 207
N1K1-J George x 48
D4Y Judy x 27
B6N Jill x 48
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 36
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 36
No Japanese losses
Allied ground losses:
23 casualties reported
Airbase hits 18
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 200
Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on Kweiyang , at 41,35
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 213
N1K1-J George x 19
D4Y Judy x 76
B6N Jill x 115
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 33
No Japanese losses
Allied ground losses:
34 casualties reported
Airbase hits 15
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 246
Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on Tomini , at 34,65
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 33
Ki-21 Sally x 117
Ki-49 Helen x 23
Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 9
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 3 destroyed
Ki-21 Sally: 6 destroyed, 3 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire VIII: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 10
Runway hits 48
Port hits 1
Port supply hits 4
Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on Ponape , at 71,79
Allied aircraft
Liberator VI x 12
P-40N Warhawk x 15
B-25J Mitchell x 41
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 42
Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on Ponape , at 71,79
Allied aircraft
F-5C Lightning x 6
B-25J Mitchell x 2
PB4Y Liberator x 22
B-24J Liberator x 73
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Airbase hits 10
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 153
Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on Wewak , at 52,81
Allied aircraft
Boomerang II x 9
Spitfire VIII x 3
A-20G Havoc x 12
No Allied losses
Runway hits 9
Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on Emirau Island , at 60,84
Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 9
SB2C Helldiver x 54
P-38J Lightning x 5
B-25J Mitchell x 55
No Allied losses
Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 27
Port hits 2
Port supply hits 1
Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on 19th Naval Guard Unit, at 60,84
Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 33
Kittyhawk III x 24
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 25
P-40N Warhawk x 43
P-38J Lightning x 9
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
67 casualties reported
Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on 85th Naval Guard Unit, at 58,84
Allied aircraft
SB2C Helldiver x 16
Kittyhawk III x 14
Beaufort V-IX x 7
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
31 casualties reported
Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on 32nd Ind.Mixed Brigade, at 45,76
Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 9
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 35
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
18 casualties reported
Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on 503rd USA Para Regiment, at 34,65
Japanese aircraft
D4Y Judy x 27
Ki-30 Ann x 8
Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 9
Japanese aircraft losses
D4Y Judy: 5 destroyed
Ki-30 Ann: 2 damaged
Allied ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on TF at 46,74
Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 3
Allied aircraft
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 3
No Japanese losses
No Allied losses
Allied Ships
SC SC-640
Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on 2nd Naval Construction Battalion, at 34,65
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 7
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 31
Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 9
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 8 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-38J Lightning: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
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Day Air attack on TF at 38,68
Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 6
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 7
Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
Allied Ships
DD Capps
DE Manlove
Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on TF at 38,68
Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 6
P1Y Frances x 9
Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
P1Y Frances: 8 damaged
Allied Ships
DE Cloues
DD Burns, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DE Reynolds
Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on TF, near Eniwetok at 76,74
Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 6
Allied aircraft
P-40N Warhawk x 16
Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 4 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-40N Warhawk: 6 damaged
Allied Ships
AK William C. Claiborne
AK Allen C. Balch
Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on TF at 49,76
Japanese aircraft
P1Y Frances x 15
Japanese aircraft losses
P1Y Frances: 4 damaged
Allied Ships
AK Empire Ridley, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AK James Gordon Bennett, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AK Henry Dearborn, Torpedo hits 1
Allied ground losses:
145 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Aircraft Attacking:
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Ground combat at Admiralty Islands
Allied Shock attack
Attacking force 3722 troops, 20 guns, 54 vehicles, Assault Value = 135
Defending force 620 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 21
Allied max assault: 188 - adjusted assault: 89
Japanese max defense: 11 - adjusted defense: 1
Allied assault odds: 89 to 1
Japanese ground losses:
105 casualties reported
Allied ground losses:
66 casualties reported
Guns lost 4
Vehicles lost 1
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Ground combat at Noemfoor
Allied Bombardment attack
Attacking force 1435 troops, 26 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 826
Defending force 31514 troops, 212 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 583
Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
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Ground combat at Tomini
Japanese Shock attack
Attacking force 748 troops, 7 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 44
Defending force 1992 troops, 20 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 109
Japanese max assault: 34 - adjusted assault: 0
Allied max defense: 84 - adjusted defense: 91
Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 0)
Japanese ground losses:
375 casualties reported
Guns lost 4
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Ground combat at Tomini
Allied Shock attack
Attacking force 802 troops, 11 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 109
Defending force 966 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4
Allied max assault: 42 - adjusted assault: 11
Japanese max defense: 1 - adjusted defense: 1
Allied assault odds: 11 to 1
Japanese ground losses:
8 casualties reported
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Japanese Unit(s) surrounded at Tomini
He is getting irritating with these strikes on the side
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 05/07/44
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Day Air attack on Kweiyang , at 41,35
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 207
N1K1-J George x 48
D4Y Judy x 27
B6N Jill x 48
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 36
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 36
No Japanese losses
Allied ground losses:
23 casualties reported
Airbase hits 18
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 200
Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on Kweiyang , at 41,35
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 213
N1K1-J George x 19
D4Y Judy x 76
B6N Jill x 115
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 33
No Japanese losses
Allied ground losses:
34 casualties reported
Airbase hits 15
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 246
Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on Tomini , at 34,65
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 33
Ki-21 Sally x 117
Ki-49 Helen x 23
Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 9
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 3 destroyed
Ki-21 Sally: 6 destroyed, 3 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire VIII: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 10
Runway hits 48
Port hits 1
Port supply hits 4
Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on Ponape , at 71,79
Allied aircraft
Liberator VI x 12
P-40N Warhawk x 15
B-25J Mitchell x 41
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 42
Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on Ponape , at 71,79
Allied aircraft
F-5C Lightning x 6
B-25J Mitchell x 2
PB4Y Liberator x 22
B-24J Liberator x 73
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Airbase hits 10
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 153
Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on Wewak , at 52,81
Allied aircraft
Boomerang II x 9
Spitfire VIII x 3
A-20G Havoc x 12
No Allied losses
Runway hits 9
Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on Emirau Island , at 60,84
Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 9
SB2C Helldiver x 54
P-38J Lightning x 5
B-25J Mitchell x 55
No Allied losses
Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 27
Port hits 2
Port supply hits 1
Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on 19th Naval Guard Unit, at 60,84
Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 33
Kittyhawk III x 24
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 25
P-40N Warhawk x 43
P-38J Lightning x 9
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
67 casualties reported
Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on 85th Naval Guard Unit, at 58,84
Allied aircraft
SB2C Helldiver x 16
Kittyhawk III x 14
Beaufort V-IX x 7
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
31 casualties reported
Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on 32nd Ind.Mixed Brigade, at 45,76
Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 9
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 35
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
18 casualties reported
Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on 503rd USA Para Regiment, at 34,65
Japanese aircraft
D4Y Judy x 27
Ki-30 Ann x 8
Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 9
Japanese aircraft losses
D4Y Judy: 5 destroyed
Ki-30 Ann: 2 damaged
Allied ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on TF at 46,74
Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 3
Allied aircraft
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 3
No Japanese losses
No Allied losses
Allied Ships
SC SC-640
Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on 2nd Naval Construction Battalion, at 34,65
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 7
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 31
Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 9
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 8 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-38J Lightning: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
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Day Air attack on TF at 38,68
Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 6
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 7
Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
Allied Ships
DD Capps
DE Manlove
Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on TF at 38,68
Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 6
P1Y Frances x 9
Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
P1Y Frances: 8 damaged
Allied Ships
DE Cloues
DD Burns, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DE Reynolds
Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on TF, near Eniwetok at 76,74
Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 6
Allied aircraft
P-40N Warhawk x 16
Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 4 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-40N Warhawk: 6 damaged
Allied Ships
AK William C. Claiborne
AK Allen C. Balch
Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on TF at 49,76
Japanese aircraft
P1Y Frances x 15
Japanese aircraft losses
P1Y Frances: 4 damaged
Allied Ships
AK Empire Ridley, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AK James Gordon Bennett, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AK Henry Dearborn, Torpedo hits 1
Allied ground losses:
145 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Aircraft Attacking:
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Ground combat at Admiralty Islands
Allied Shock attack
Attacking force 3722 troops, 20 guns, 54 vehicles, Assault Value = 135
Defending force 620 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 21
Allied max assault: 188 - adjusted assault: 89
Japanese max defense: 11 - adjusted defense: 1
Allied assault odds: 89 to 1
Japanese ground losses:
105 casualties reported
Allied ground losses:
66 casualties reported
Guns lost 4
Vehicles lost 1
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Ground combat at Noemfoor
Allied Bombardment attack
Attacking force 1435 troops, 26 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 826
Defending force 31514 troops, 212 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 583
Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
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Ground combat at Tomini
Japanese Shock attack
Attacking force 748 troops, 7 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 44
Defending force 1992 troops, 20 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 109
Japanese max assault: 34 - adjusted assault: 0
Allied max defense: 84 - adjusted defense: 91
Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 0)
Japanese ground losses:
375 casualties reported
Guns lost 4
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Ground combat at Tomini
Allied Shock attack
Attacking force 802 troops, 11 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 109
Defending force 966 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4
Allied max assault: 42 - adjusted assault: 11
Japanese max defense: 1 - adjusted defense: 1
Allied assault odds: 11 to 1
Japanese ground losses:
8 casualties reported
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Japanese Unit(s) surrounded at Tomini
RE: Operation Minotaur
ORIGINAL: Andy Mac
442 AK's
48 AP's
3 AO's
36 TK's
If I were you sneer hit his tankers I am struggling as it is to dump enough fuel forward !!!!
oops a lot still need to be done
but TK are my priority now
thanks
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RE: Operation Minotaur
Yup from tracking my ship entries as Allies i'm getting roughly 2 x AK a day from 43 onwards at least........
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RE: Operation Minotaur
Possible targets my recon has identified
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RE: Operation Minotaur
Your AAR gives all other Allied players hope to be able to play with ALL those toys at some time in the future. [:D][&o][:D]
Just wish you had some sort of forces in India to be of use. When it comes to non-deployable British forces, how do they show up on the re-inforcement schedule??
Just wish you had some sort of forces in India to be of use. When it comes to non-deployable British forces, how do they show up on the re-inforcement schedule??
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ORIGINAL: Andy Mac
Frank caution is good but I need to attack and attack quickly and keep up the pressure every day I goive PZB to fort up is that much harder.......also if I don't subdue Japan before late 45 Churchill has informed me the Soviets may make a grab for the Far East you see he really disnae trust em !!!!!
Oh, the Soviets! SO, go go go!
I´d think it would be helpfull for you plans to start a "little" bombing offensive on all those nice airfields around, like Morotai or Mendanao to get the planes on the ground?
Do you know where those Francis bombers come from? They have a range of 7 or 8 to attack with torpedoes, haven´t they? Do you think it would be possible to close the airfiled they are deployed and destroy them on the ground?
Alternatively you can build up your airbases in NG and get fighter cover over an area 2 to 3 hexes along the NG Northern coast. Do you have plans to bring more seabees to NG to get the airfields built up faster.
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RE: Operation Minotaur
The only issue is transport capacity.
The build up for Thunderchild has priority at moment so although I have large numbers of CB's back at West Coast and Pearl I cannot afford the shipping to bring them forward.
I need to have all my strike Corps in place and ready to fight in time for activation of the operation.
I may have ran before I could walk a little with Minotaur I should perhaps with hindsight have waited a couple more weeks to forward dump supplies and bring up in theatre engineering reserves.
I am acting uncharacteristically reckless at the moment and I need to slow down and be a little more methodical.
The good news is by siezing Admiralties, and the 2 bases north of wasile I have made a good start on building a really solid base for future operations.
Andy
The build up for Thunderchild has priority at moment so although I have large numbers of CB's back at West Coast and Pearl I cannot afford the shipping to bring them forward.
I need to have all my strike Corps in place and ready to fight in time for activation of the operation.
I may have ran before I could walk a little with Minotaur I should perhaps with hindsight have waited a couple more weeks to forward dump supplies and bring up in theatre engineering reserves.
I am acting uncharacteristically reckless at the moment and I need to slow down and be a little more methodical.
The good news is by siezing Admiralties, and the 2 bases north of wasile I have made a good start on building a really solid base for future operations.
Andy
RE: Operation Minotaur
I will post a screenie of my reinforcement q tonight to show my forces that are waiting.
Re Bombing his bases I think I need to take stcok and go methodical again for a while.
I would like to point out something for the Japanese players.
Given a choice between securing PM, Lunga and Tarawa or knocking out India I would suggest SOPAC is more important and would point to this game as evidence.
PZB knocked India out in this game but Wobbly managed to cling on to his forward bases and grab Tarawa. It was from these bases that ADavidB and Nomad drove forward.
Now I am pretty much on a historical timetable I am not actually ahead of schedule.
My Marianas invasion will only happen weeks in advance of the historical one
If they had not secured those advanced bases I would be 6 months further back. i.e. the loss of India has not as yet affected the direct attack on Japan.
Route 1 is still the best for the allies !!!
I guess what I am saying is if the IJA can hold the CW Army either at Mandalay (difficult because of allied airpower) or Moulmien (possible) or even Tavoy (very doable) i.e. keep them out of range of the oilfieds then India IMO should be a secondary objective until you have captured AND SECURED the forward bases.
Actually Sneers tactic is good for this take the bases up to Calcutta and around the Burmese border using minimum force.
A limited objective like this probably allows you to try it after securing these forward bases.
As Pauk is finding now in my game v him if he doesnt secure them early he never will [:D][:D].
Re Bombing his bases I think I need to take stcok and go methodical again for a while.
I would like to point out something for the Japanese players.
Given a choice between securing PM, Lunga and Tarawa or knocking out India I would suggest SOPAC is more important and would point to this game as evidence.
PZB knocked India out in this game but Wobbly managed to cling on to his forward bases and grab Tarawa. It was from these bases that ADavidB and Nomad drove forward.
Now I am pretty much on a historical timetable I am not actually ahead of schedule.
My Marianas invasion will only happen weeks in advance of the historical one
If they had not secured those advanced bases I would be 6 months further back. i.e. the loss of India has not as yet affected the direct attack on Japan.
Route 1 is still the best for the allies !!!
I guess what I am saying is if the IJA can hold the CW Army either at Mandalay (difficult because of allied airpower) or Moulmien (possible) or even Tavoy (very doable) i.e. keep them out of range of the oilfieds then India IMO should be a secondary objective until you have captured AND SECURED the forward bases.
Actually Sneers tactic is good for this take the bases up to Calcutta and around the Burmese border using minimum force.
A limited objective like this probably allows you to try it after securing these forward bases.
As Pauk is finding now in my game v him if he doesnt secure them early he never will [:D][:D].
RE: Operation Minotaur
Interesting, from our game I remember something like 64-66 units bearing down on Burma from India in mid '43. How is the IJA supposed to stop that? I had 6 divisions in Burma and I had to secure Malaya and western coast of thailand too as I was really paranoid of you landing behind my back.
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RE: Operation Minotaur
but that was a massive bluff
I had used PBY's to taken a small fragment from every unit I could lay my hands on to get the unit count up only 2 actual Divs were in that force !!!!
The main attack was a direct invasion of Malaya/Rangoon by 4 full army Corps !!!!
I had used PBY's to taken a small fragment from every unit I could lay my hands on to get the unit count up only 2 actual Divs were in that force !!!!
The main attack was a direct invasion of Malaya/Rangoon by 4 full army Corps !!!!
RE: Operation Minotaur
ORIGINAL: Andy Mac
but that was a massive bluff
I had used PBY's to taken a small fragment from every unit I could lay my hands on to get the unit count up only 2 actual Divs were in that force !!!!
The main attack was a direct invasion of Malaya/Rangoon by 4 full army Corps !!!!
Aha, so I was correct in keeping a large part of my forces in the rear. [:-]
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