An article I found. Not for JFB's.

[Ursa MAior]

ORIGINAL: Terminus

Just let this pathetic piece of slime stew in his own bile, Ursa. He is nothing, and what he says means nothing.

And I hope he will say nothing in the foreseeable future.

[Demosthenes]

No guys, if you go back and read the thread you will find Chez, Mdiehl, Spence, and Captain Mandrake debating -
and then "others" start insulting Mdiehl as being a waste of time...and then he replies - and then the insults really start flying.

Mdiehl and Chez have been debating many topics for a long time and have gotten competative. The people who I see starting the insulting are not Mdiehl.

Mdiehl debates well and tenaciously, if you can't compete with him and stay cool - then don't start the name calling.

It's right there for everyone to read and see for themselves....

[ChezDaJez]

Ok, guys. This has gotten out of hand. Let's cool it. It's one thing to debate with passion, its quite another to do so with hatred.

Ad hominem attacks are bad enough. Attacks directed towards someone's ethnicity, race, nationality or any other identifying characteristic is way out of line and have no place in this forum. People who engage in this type of behaviour deserve no respect whatsoever.

I've conditionally accepted mdiehl's olive branch. But as I told him, my guns will remain trained and loaded and I will not back down from his insulting behaviour towards me or others.

Chez

[Demosthenes]

Read my statement above Chez, the insults started diredcted at Mdiehl

When you start in by saying:

Sheesh. Chez you know it isn't worth arguing. Save your energy and fingers

Followed by

Dont waste your time. Mdiehl has proven many times, that he is incapable for even the slightest change of his illusions. No matter how hard you argue, no matter whom you quote, no matter how rude you are. It his HOLY Mission to get rid of the AXIS propaganda which has 'infected these forums'. You can't argue with fanatics.

The insults start flying and ALL is fair.

In other words, don't pull the bulls tail and complain when you get gored.



EDIT: And furthermore, I don't know Mdiehl from Adam, but if he's "my buddy" that's fine with me.

[ChezDaJez]

I'm assuming that your last post was NOT directed at me. Is that correct?

Regardless, there is a huge difference between Ursa Major showing disdain for someone and the type of behaviour mdiehl exhibited. Its kind of like hauling out the shotgun because some hit you with a rubberband.

Chez

[Demosthenes]

ORIGINAL: ChezDaJez

I'm assuming that your last post was NOT directed at me. Is that correct?

Regardless, there is a huge difference between Ursa Major showing disdain for someone and the type of behaviour mdiehl exhibited. Its kind of like hauling out the shotgun because some hit you with a rubberband.

Chez

No Chez, my last post was not directed at you. You and Mdiehl having been dueling for some time.
But insults are insults, and tempers get aroused, and it's all unnecessary - just don't start insulting people, that's not tough to do.

Personally, I don't care if I'm called a Yankee Imperialist (there's some truth to that these days...not me personally) or a Honky KKK boy , whatever. Don't mean **** to me.

Now, if someone for some reason wants satisfaction...I'm in LA, I'm not tough to get a hold of. My choice of weapons is sabres (I'm actually good with one)...[;)]

Demo

[Mynok]

While we've had our differences from time to time, Demosthenes, you are straightfoward and decent soul. mdiehl is prick of the first order as eveyr long-termer here will attest to. I do wish more would ignore and block him as I did ages ago.

[Ursa MAior]

ORIGINAL: Demosthenes

Read my statement above Chez, the insults started diredcted at Mdiehl

When you start in by saying:

Sheesh. Chez you know it isn't worth arguing. Save your energy and fingers

Followed by

Dont waste your time. Mdiehl has proven many times, that he is incapable for even the slightest change of his illusions. No matter how hard you argue, no matter whom you quote, no matter how rude you are. It his HOLY Mission to get rid of the AXIS propaganda which has 'infected these forums'. You can't argue with fanatics.

The insults start flying and ALL is fair.

In other words, don't pull the bulls tail and complain when you get gored.

EDIT: And furthermore, I don't know Mdiehl from Adam, but if he's "my buddy" that's fine with me.

Demosthenes

The second one is me, I dont feel ashamed for it. Yes I was bullying him, and yes I react sensitibvely to his posts about me, but hey I was called a dirthole dweller right after I gave voice to my disagreement, some six months ago. I was not complaining, I was disgusted. Weel since I am not a native speaker I try not to use slang since I dont really know its side effects (e.g calling someone a yanqui), but as I already said his behaviour IS of soviet officers' and IS of imperial arrogance. As you probably see from my other posts it is NOT my habit to insult people, but I preserve my right of selfdefence. Since I unfortunately live in the Wild East it is usually less mannered, than others'. You can check EiA forums too. Yes I am rude, yes I am insulting, but only towards fanatics, and people who claim to be thinkin, but not acting like it. I have had my share of warnings from the admins, but NEVER went as far as insulting a whole community cuz of one's behaviour.

While we've had our differences from time to time, Demosthenes, you are straightfoward and decent soul.

Second to that. We have buried the hatchet and I dont want to dig it out.

[jwilkerson]

Certain individuals' posts to this thread (both before and after editing) are being studied with a view toward appropriate action, which will be forthcoming.

In the mean time, it is recommended that further posts to this thread be on a BEST BEHAVIOR basis, else an ertwihile innocent be caught up in the riot suppression activities!

[BTW note the plural possessive form of the word individual, which is intended]

[spence]

Mum's the word.

[Cap Mandrake]

ORIGINAL: jwilkerson....

In the mean time, it is recommended that further posts to this thread be on a BEST BEHAVIOR basis, else an ertwihile innocent be caught up in the riot suppression activities!

....

"riot suppression acitivities" [:D]....batons and rubber bullets..form your line here.



The most interesting thing I have read here is that the Japanese had a plywood shortage. [:)] I can see Molybdenum, Polonium, Aluminum..even petroleum..but plywood? Were they going to include Oregon in the greater co-prosperity sphere and bring in a bunch of Koreans to work the sawmills?

I would say the two great lessons of the Pacific War were (some not learned):

1) Never fight a land war in Asia
2) Don't start a war without a strategic plywood reserve

[ChezDaJez]

Don't start a war without a strategic plywood reserve

I've read in one of the NTMs that the problem with plywood was that they were unable to produce sufficient quantities of the glue required to make it and that they had only 3 factories in Japan dedicated to making it.

Chez

[Ron Saueracker]

I just read through this thread...quite the ride.[X(]

[Cap Mandrake]

ORIGINAL: ChezDaJez


I've read in one of the NTMs that the problem with plywood was that they were unable to produce sufficient quantities of the glue required to make it and that they had only 3 factories in Japan dedicated to making it.

Chez

And the glue shortage could be attributed to a depleted "strategic horse reserve"...probably because the poor beasts were killed in the China campaign.

[testarossa]

ORIGINAL: Ursa MAior
...but hey I was called a dirthole dweller right after I gave voice to my disagreement, some six months ago.

Well man, i've been to Budapest in 2001 and can say that it's in no way a dirthole. Very beautiful city inhabited by many nice people.

I usually don't respond to posts that claim that Canada is a frozen wasteland, where people ski to grocery store to buy some ammo to fend off marauding grizzly bears. [:D]

Yea. and it's not a racism. It's a discrimination based on the country of origin (that's how they say here in the frozen wasteland). LOL.

[ChezDaJez]

I usually don't respond to posts that claim that Canada is a frozen wasteland, where people ski to grocery store to buy some ammo to fend off marauding grizzly bears.

I knew that you all didn't ski to the store. I figured in this modern world, you would be using snowmobiles!!![:D][:D][:D]

Chez

[mdiehl]

On review, it's interesting that I find myself occupying one of Chez' earlier positions on the matter, after he abandoned (?or did he?) that position.

Chez said:

These small wooden fins provided extremely little additional buoyancy. It was the flow of the water over the angled fins that brought the torp back towards the surface faster than it normally could.

And after thrashing it all out. I think that makes alot of sense. FWIW at this point.

[Big B]

ORIGINAL: mdiehl

On review, it's interesting that I find myself occupying one of Chez' earlier positions on the matter, after he abandoned (?or did he?) that position.

Chez said:

These small wooden fins provided extremely little additional buoyancy. It was the flow of the water over the angled fins that brought the torp back towards the surface faster than it normally could.

And after thrashing it all out. I think that makes alot of sense. FWIW at this point.

The real point is that Japanese bombing and torpedo accuracy is not all it was cracked up to be - in fact it was downright ...human[:'(]

B

[RUPD3658]

ORIGINAL: ChezDaJez

I usually don't respond to posts that claim that Canada is a frozen wasteland, where people ski to grocery store to buy some ammo to fend off marauding grizzly bears.

I knew that you all didn't ski to the store. I figured in this modern world, you would be using snowmobiles!!![:D][:D][:D]

Chez

They have stores? [;)]

[Mynok]

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

The most interesting thing I have read here is that the Japanese had a plywood shortage. [:)] I can see Molybdenum, Polonium, Aluminum..even petroleum..but plywood? Were they going to include Oregon in the greater co-prosperity sphere and bring in a bunch of Koreans to work the sawmills?

I would say the two great lessons of the Pacific War were (some not learned):

1) Never fight a land war in Asia
2) Don't start a war without a strategic plywood reserve

You generally run out of that which you use the most in your war machine. [:D]