2006 World Football (Soccer) Championships in Germany

[Marc von Martial]

ORIGINAL: Trigger Happy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpG4AHlZ ... =materazzi

Says it all, this guy is a danger for his coplayers. What an a.. on the field.
but alos then one or other nice goal in the movie [;)]


Here is the top 5, from Italy btw:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zq6HosVl ... =materazzi

[Marc von Martial]

How can anyone watch a sport that does not score very much and has rubbish like that?

Not all people need to watch 48 minutes for an 99:98 outcome, sport is not defined by "much scoring", football has a lot of tension and tactics whihc people that havn't played or have no clue about football don't understand.

Rubbish happens in every sport. Best example, Baseball [;)]

[JamesM]

This world cup was probably one of the worse advertisements for football in relation to the non-football followers. The reasons are I feel:

• The shear number of red cards issued (4 in one match Holland v Portugal);
• Some teams seamed to be more interested in trying to get opposition players sent off then using their skill to win matches;
• The shear number of players diving; and
• In the knock out stage the teams are too scared of losing instead of trying to win games (I know it is high pressure but how satisfying deep down would it be to the players when they know that they could not best their opponents (that is what all sports are essentially about) that they have to win via a lottery of a penalty shootout).

[Charles2222]

Just make them play until they drop [:D]. Whoever scores first after regulation wins. What american football calls sudden-death. It wouldn't be so bad if they had at least four goals apiece, but only one? I guess it could have been worse and there could had been a complete shutout until the free kicks.

[Marc von Martial]

Actually there was a "golden goal" (sudden death) regulation for a time. For example in 1996 Germany did win the European championships with a "golden goal" by Oliver Bierhoff.

I never understood why they cancelled that rule. I found it pretty good.

[Neilster]

ORIGINAL: jamesm

• In the knock out stage the teams are too scared of losing instead of trying to win games (I know it is high pressure but how satisfying deep down would it be to the players when they know that they could not best their opponents (that is what all sports are essentially about) that they have to win via a lottery of a penalty shootout).

Yep. IMHO France was clearly the better team in the final but lost. This is a clear problem with the sport in knock-out style competitions. Football's scoring style works better over a long season where the external factors like poor refereeing decisions and weather tend to even out and there is a larger sample of games with which to decide the final rankings.

In a knock-out competition, the less scoring there is, the more likely it is that the team that didn't dominate the game actually wins, and it's hard to think of a sport with less scoring than football in the later rounds of the World Cup. [:D]

Yet there are more and more of these types of competitions in football because they can be played in a relatively short time and generate wide interest. A dilemma.

Here's the bit where I singlehandedly fix football's problems, guaranteeing my place in history. [:'(]

Introduce the equivalent of basketball's 3 point line. Probably a box or maybe a curved line as in basketball. Goals kicked outside it are worth 2 (or 1.5 or something, but that gets a bit messy).

A double-goal would be devastating so the defences would have to spread out more to try to prevent them, leaving more room inside for conventional goals too. The best goals are the long bombs anyway and this would encourage them. You'd have more scoring and new tactics. A team behind by 2 with 1 minute to go is still in the game if they can get a "fast break" which nets a double-goal.

It'll never happen though. "What about all the old records?", I hear you say. Well, they used to score heaps more in the past anyway. The 3-point line revolutionized basketball and no sport is immune to change. Surely this has been proposed before?

Either that or get rid of the goalies. [:'(]

Cheers, Neilster

[Oleg Mastruko]

ORIGINAL: Marc Schwanebeck

ORIGINAL: Trigger Happy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpG4AHlZ ... =materazzi

Says it all, this guy is a danger for his coplayers. What an a.. on the field.
but alos then one or other nice goal in the movie [;)]

Hey shit happens....

Someone posted a list of all 13 or 14 red cards Zidane got during his career - do you think purpose-built video compilation of his 14 ugly moves & red cards would be any nicer to watch? I don't think so.

I shudder at the thought of someone making the video compilation of my worst moves in PBEM wargames too [:D] [:D] [:D]

Materazzi is a defender, I expect him to play ugly from time to time - that's why there are yellow and red cards in football (that are, if anything, overused).

[Oleg Mastruko]

ORIGINAL: Charles_22



And I thought the San Antonio Spurs palms up in the air after every foul called was bad! Man, it's sickening. How can anyone watch a sport that does not score very much and has rubbish like that? What would happen if a ref retaliated on a player with some kind of force? I ask because that guy was just asking for it.

Rubbish? I definitely do agree 80% of modern top level soccer IS rubbish but come on, this picture is pure fun!

I already said long ago in this thread one has to watch football not as sport, but as some strange mixture of bad drama, funny opera + one (small) part sport. Once you get in the required state of mind it's fun, otherwise you just wonder what's it all about....

[Oleg Mastruko]

ORIGINAL: Neilster

It'll never happen though. "What about all the old records?", I hear you say. Well, they used to score heaps more in the past anyway. The 3-point line revolutionized basketball and no sport is immune to change. Surely this has been proposed before?

Either that or get rid of the goalies. [:'(]

My proposals:

- Get rid of the offside rule
- Injured or "injured" dude is pushed off the field immediatelly and he cannot return for 10 or 15 minutes
- Red card for diving
- More substitutes allowed
- Introduce "pure time" played, ie when the ball is out of the play game clock does not move, as in almost every other serious sport on the planet (I assume 2 x 30 minutes would then cover all play we now have in 2 x 45, and then some)

It will never happen though.

[Marc von Martial]

ORIGINAL: Oleg Mastruko

Materazzi is a defender, I expect him to play ugly from time to time - that's why there are yellow and red cards in football (that are, if anything, overused).

Come on Oleg, the stuff in the video is not simple dirty fouls a defender "must do". It is kicks in the nuts, stomach, elbow checks in the face, kicks on the knees and the like. I'm far from saying the football is no contact sport and I´m also not a big fan of the rule that charging from the sides/rear are automatically a yellow card. But things shown in this video belong to bar fights, not sports. Almost 2/3 of the actions shown in the video a crystal clear red cards with a 2-4 game penalty. Not simple "fouls". He takes into account that the player of the other team can be so badly hurt that it ends his carrer.

Yep, a video of Zidanes 14 or so red cards would be something equal, but that is not the point [;)]

[Marc von Martial]

ORIGINAL: Oleg Mastruko
- Get rid of the offside rule
- Injured or "injured" dude is pushed off the field immediatelly and he cannot return for 10 or 15 minutes
- Red card for diving
- More substitutes allowed
- Introduce "pure time" played, ie when the ball is out of the play game clock does not move, as in almost every other serious sport on the planet (I assume 2 x 30 minutes would then cover all play we now have in 2 x 45, and then some)

Apart from the offside rule I agree, especially on the red card for diving.

More substitutes allowed makes no sense. Everybody sees what happens in friendship games where 6 or more substitutes are allowed it kills the flow. I can hardly think of a game that was still interesting to watch after more then 3 substitutions, for most of the part it became rather boring games cause the tactics got killed by too many substitutions.

[Gen.Hoepner]

It's official: Zidane has just said to Canal+ that Materazzi insulted his sister and he could not tollerate that.
 

[Marc von Martial]

"Very personal and hard words about my sister and mother" , "I could not tolerate that" , that is what Zidane said. He excused his outbreak but is not regreting the head butt.

[Oleg Mastruko]

ORIGINAL: Gen.Hoepner

It's official: Zidane has just said to Canal+ that Materazzi insulted his sister and he could not tollerate that.

Oh, big deal [>:]

Bring back your old avatar my friend [;)]

[Marc von Martial]

ORIGINAL: Oleg Mastruko

Oh, big deal [>:]

If this underexposed wanker would have done that in his hometome to somebody on the street he would have no chest anymore.

According to Zidane Materazzi repeated the insults over and over again.

Materazzis cheap excuses, his pathetic tries to wind himself out of the story and put the blame on Zidanes "If you want my jersey you can have it after the game" insult are even more disgusting. I hope someday it will pay back on him.

[Marc von Martial]

ORIGINAL: Oleg Mastruko
Materazzi is a defender, I expect him to play ugly from time to time

You' probably enjoy this brilliant defence moment then:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Gyu8W1g2co

Warning, graphic content.

[Oleg Mastruko]

ORIGINAL: Marc Schwanebeck
You' probably enjoy this brilliant defence moment then:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Gyu8W1g2co

Warning, graphic content.

I am (technically) on a vacation, on the island in the middle of the Adriatic sea, behind my laptop + slow ancient analog modem, so excuse me for NOT following the latest trend of sharing, forwarding and watching series of anti-Materazzi videos. [:D]

In fact I find this trend downright ridicolous. What's the point? It's NOT about Materazzi, it's about what that other guy (Zidane, remember him?) did.

[Marc von Martial]

It's NOT about Materazzi, it's about what that other guy (Zidane, remember him?) did.

Oh it goes hand in hand, both were involved. The last one just shows what an a.. Materazzi really is.

I am (technically) on a vacation, on the island in the middle of the Adriatic sea, behind my laptop + slow ancient analog modem, so excuse me for NOT following the latest trend of sharing, forwarding and watching series of anti-Materazzi videos.

Haha, cheap excuse because you can't counter that video [:'(][;)]


Have a nice vacation .

[Oleg Mastruko]

OK I DID watch it (they say curiosity killed the cat and it certainly overloaded my poor modem [:D])
 
Yellow dude didn't watch where he's running so he run into big guy's elbow. End of story. Blue guy merely raised his elbow and let the stupid blind runner run into it. 90% of the force of the impact comes from the yellow dude himself (running full speed without watching what he'll run into).
 
It's not shown, but judging from his reaction, defender got red card, which is more than he deserved for this, but should make all you happy enough not to make big deal of it anyway.
 
I'd give Sorin the same advice I give to my kids: WATCH WHERE YOU'RE RUNNING [:D]

[Marc von Martial]

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