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RE: Japanese Naval fleet spotted... Aleutians heats up!

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I did actually engage the KB last turn and it was kind of an draw. If I understand correctly you say that when I will move ahead than go through Pago Pago and surrounding bases.

Hmm, not sure I'd classify it as a draw. Essentially any Japanese CV not sunk before 1st January 1944 is, under most strategies, irrelevant except insofar as it exists as a threat in being. In other words it doesn't form much of a threat in actually engaging enemy forces.

So, trading a couple of CVEs an CVL Ryuho ( given poor Japanese damage control I would suggest that this is what he actually lost) in return for sinking 1 Allied CV and, at the very least, seriously damaging one more and moderately damaging another is a pretty good deal. These aren't fatal blows to the Americans but they do tend to limit your options for attacks on isolated bases. Strategically and operationally I'd have to call this a win for the Japanese.

As to where to advance... If you advance from Pago Pago you face a long, long march through many easily identified atolls each of which must be taken in series and in range of only limited LBA. No, I think that you need to gamble, land where he isn't and focus on the air bridge of the Aleutians to Parmashiro Jima ( sp?). This is the area in which you can maximise your LBA power and have the greatest ability to cut off his reaction forces and land where he isn't.

Here's what I would have suggeste.... Using the bad weather as cover land a division and CD/AAA units and several EAB Bns at both Amchitka and the other unoccupied but Japanese-controlled islands in the Aleutians. Fortify them ASAP an then build up your airfields. Forget about the isolated Japanese forces in your rear and then push on towards the Kuriles. Tight focus along a very prescribed ( and, importantly, proscribed) axis will benefit you at this stage.

Risky but very beneficial and attacking will tend to limit the enemy's offensive potential at far less cost than defending given the force correlation and geographical situations in this game. In any case that is the strategy I am applying in the game I've started as the US. I'm retreating in some places but also ordered my first large-scale offensive on December 8th 1941. I think that's the way to go in limiting Japanese expanionism. Attack them while they are focussed elsewhere and rip their throat out while they are focussed on their own sword arm. When the sword is turned on you it will be wielded by someone already significantly weakened by blood loss. I think you can apply the same thinking to benefit.

Apologies if this is unwanted input. I understand that many people are rendered uncomfortable by rational exposition and invest it with a wide variety of emotional contexts it does not contain.
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I must admit losing a US Carrier in early 43 makes this a marginal loss for me because of the time delay in the respawning carriers.
 
If you got the replacement Essex when it was actually available and not an arbitrary 12 months+ then I would call it a draw but game mechanics screw the allies on this one Aztez as its going to mean you are light in mid - late 43 when you are trying to do sooo much before the big Japanese troops reinforcements start to arrive
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RE: Japanese Naval fleet spotted... Aleutians heats up!

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Appreciate the input guys! [:)]


Nemo: You were absolutely right since this was not a draw. (The last turn brought very bad news for allied HQ more about it later!) Hmpf, The Amchitka offensive really sounds like a plan. I cannot pull it together just yet since I'am lacking infantry units. Some remains of the 3 US Divisions are at Dutch Harbour and some are at Anchorage!

The reinforcement table is not looking good either. Just 2 US South Pacific divisions arriving in +/- 120 days time.

Do you think I could use just LBA umbrealla for this offensive? (I'am building up Kodiak and I do keep Dutch Harbour airfield closed)

...and your input is not unwanted! [:)]


Andy Mac: Yeah, I think you are right! It will be mid 1944 before I get those CV's back. (lost 2 CV's and 2 more have 50/50% of survival)

I know that late 1943 is critical and I really need to use just my LBA's for next offensives. Keeping that in mind it just leaves Aleutians and Burma for me to battle.


....lets take a look what happened last turn!

The worst fear became reality since Japane CV Fleet pursued the US CV force.


Day Air attack on TF at 103,39

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 57
A6M3 Zero x 10
D3A Val x 50
A6M3a Zero x 27
B5N Kate x 47
E13A1 Jake x 3
E7K2 Alf x 17

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
CV Enterprise, Bomb hits 9, on fire, heavy damage *sunk*
CA Chester, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

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Day Air attack on TF at 105,37

Japanese aircraft
D3A Val x 9
B5N Kate x 33
E7K2 Alf x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A Val: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
B5N Kate: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged
E7K2 Alf: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Maury
CA Pensacola, Bomb hits 1
CL St. Louis, Bomb hits 8, on fire, heavy damage

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Day Air attack on TF at 105,37

Japanese aircraft
D3A Val x 9
B5N Kate x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A Val: 9 damaged
B5N Kate: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
CV Yorktown, Bomb hits 6, on fire, heavy damage *Heavy damage... 90's in system/fire damage*
CLAA San Diego, Bomb hits 1

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Day Air attack on TF at 102,40

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 49
A6M3 Zero x 8
A6M3a Zero x 22

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 12
SBD Dauntless x 23
TBF Avenger x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 damaged
A6M3 Zero: 1 damaged
A6M3a Zero: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 12 destroyed
SBD Dauntless: 21 destroyed
TBF Avenger: 4 destroyed

Japanese Ships
CVL Zuiho, Torpedo hits 1, on fire *the only good news from that turn*
CV Soryu

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Day Air attack on TF at 104,37

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 54
A6M3 Zero x 10
A6M3a Zero x 26
B5N Kate x 68
E13A1 Jake x 9
E7K2 Alf x 12

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
B5N Kate: 14 destroyed, 40 damaged
E13A1 Jake: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
E7K2 Alf: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 3 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied Ships
CV Lexington, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 7, on fire, heavy damage *Heavy damage 80/80*
CV Saratoga, Torpedo hits 2, on fire *sys damage in 30's*
CVE Nassau, Torpedo hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
CLAA Reno
CL Detroit
CA San Francisco, Torpedo hits 1, on fire

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Day Air attack on TF at 105,37

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 4
D3A Val x 10
B5N Kate x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A Val: 2 damaged
B5N Kate: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
CV Hornet, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage *heavy damage*


Badly damaged CV's are heading to Kodiak! It has level 4 port facilities and hopefully I can repair some damage there.

This leaves me 2 fully operational CV's (Wasp and Essex) and 1 US mildly damaged CV (Saratoga). Not much but better than nothing I guess.

Japanese side losses in North Pacific are: CVE Unryo, CVE Tayho and CVE Chuyo. Also Dave informed that at least 2 CVL's are unlikely to survive.

Needless to say that ratio is not desirable. The fact is that in stock game KB is pretty much invincible until late 1943!!! I think had this CV vs CV battle took place using NIK mod the outcome would have been diffrent. (I have been using Nik 7.0 againts AI sometime now)

Since I'am short of CV's in CenPac/South Pacific and North Pacific Winston Churchill has given orders for Royal Navy to start preparing for journey there. The BB TF (BC Repulse, BB Valiant, BB Prince of Wales) and British CV Fleet (4 CV's and CVL Hermes) are now preparing to move out of Bombay. This will be a long journey but it is necessary regarding current situation. (Maybe I can suprise Dave later with this move).

That is pretty much it. I join the long list of allied players who had their CV's blastered out of the sea by the IJN ubercap and invincible CV armada!

Unless you are using NIK mod I would advice to wait before committing to battles until late or early 1944. Japanese navy just has too much firepower.

...the game will continue and I need to take a new look at the situation which is not good at all.
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Aye its irritating that you do well and are penalised for it the 4 respawn Essex class were operational IRL long before you will see them.
 
It really forces the allies to be cautious of losses in late 42 early 43. (its almost better to lose carriers in the first months of the war !!!!)
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The fact is that in stock game KB is pretty much invincible until late 1943!!! I think had this CV vs CV battle took place using NIK mod the outcome would have been diffrent. (I have been using Nik 7.0 againts AI sometime now)

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That is pretty much it. I join the long list of allied players who had their CV's blastered out of the sea by the IJN ubercap and invincible CV armada!

Unless you are using NIK mod I would advice to wait before committing to battles until late or early 1944. Japanese navy just has too much firepower

As I read these sorts of reports time after time after time, I keep on wondering why so many folks keep on being so enthusiastic about coming up with more and more "Allied limitation houserules for a normal game" as it has been put recently...

Doesn't anyone want to be able to win a game as the Allies?

(BTW - I'm not so certain that your idea of moving the Brits is such a good one at this time. Why don't you think about it for a game-week or so?)

Good luck -

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The USN can fight and win against KB you just need the support of LBA much like the IJN does after mid 43.
 
Going toe to toe outside of LBA against an undamaged KB is tough - not impossible with the AA advantage but it is tough and the payback is often not worth the risk.
 
 
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Come on ADavidB... You keep making abusive links between all the different problems of the game... This respawning Problem is real. I for once think that some sort of respawning would be good, but not including the historical ships. I am sure that had the USN gotten creamed by KB in a war without a Midway, the US would have produced the 6-8 extra CVs.

Then the A2A problem is real and some sort of implementation of Nikmode style of reform would be good to emulate more history.

But this has nothing to do with limitations that should or should not be imposed on one or the other side...

this is an annoying part of these boards...
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ORIGINAL: veji1

Come on ADavidB... You keep making abusive links between all the different problems of the game... This respawning Problem is real. I for once think that some sort of respawning would be good, but not including the historical ships. I am sure that had the USN gotten creamed by KB in a war without a Midway, the US would have produced the 6-8 extra CVs.

Then the A2A problem is real and some sort of implementation of Nikmode style of reform would be good to emulate more history.

But this has nothing to do with limitations that should or should not be imposed on one or the other side...

this is an annoying part of these boards...

To paraphrase another recent poster, why are you "putting words into my mouth"? [;)]

In any event, let's take this out of this otherwise quite interesting AAR. You have your opinions about this Game, I have mine. They belong in some other venue.

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ADavidB: It ain't easy to win as allies. I mean Japan can run wild and conquer vast amount of territory. To win in points wise is to score strategic losses for IJN.
 
You stated that you would keep RN CV fleet in India. Intresting, what is your reasoning behind this? Currently Royal Navy is docked at Bombay and are waiting further orders.
 
Andy Mac: Yes, I do agree that LBA is the only way to go after KB before late 1943. I guess if you are really lucky than you can win a battle againts KB but to be honest it is longshot at best.
 
 
Current Situation:
 
CV Yorktown was reported sunk near Kodiak.
 
The two damaged CV's reached Kodiak harbour. CV Hornet and CV Lexington are badly mauled and I don't know whether they can be saved. I guess if fire and flooding damages will go down than they can make journey back to West Coast. Even so these ships will be out for months (sys damage in 80's and 90's).
 
There is 1 CVL and 1 CVE waiting for my fleet to arrive at San Francisco.
 
CV Saratoga is currently at Anchorage. Sys damage is at 30's and she will soon head out to San Francisco as well.
 
The only good news is that CVL Ruyho was confirmed sunk!
 
I will move more LBA's into Aleutians theatre.
 
There are not much in coming in terms of reinforcements. Next CV is still about 5 months ahead.
 
This is just an quick update more about the situation in next post.
 
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You asked an update in my game Aztez -

He dumped about 5 divisions on Midway. Needlesst to say it fell in 3 days. Fortunately for the Hawain Islands, I don't think they're in any real danger. I have nearly 12 Divisions defending, and litterally 2/3 of the Allied airforce there and lots of support. I would love for Dave to come at HI.

I did (likely) sink the Unyo. She hit a mine at Midway, and another on the way out. Dave said she had 80+ float, and was the eternal optimist (don't blame him). Midway was a Port(3), so I'm sure she's disbanded there right after capture. We'll see if she goes down.

The rest of my fleet that is in good condition is protecting HI. The rest of the mauled ships are slowly making their to West Coast via the long route "in the vast".

Noumea is a fortress now. Not worried about it. Manged to evac the troops from Suva, and all those that were part of invasions for SoPac. Something like 8 Divisions there, lots of air support, and all the squdns from my now deceased CVs.

Basically, I get to hide behind my LBA at HI/Noumea/India/Oz for the next months. Believe it or not, I -don't- think he'll get an auto-victory (even will most of my CVs gone). I've got him almost 1:1 in air losses (where the allies can score points to stay in it), and did NOT lose a bunch of points in ground losses other than those at start (ground losses are the killer for Allies, much more than even CVs).

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Well Aztez, I think it is a tough situation BUT if you can land on a base he hasn't garrisoned ( which can be built to Level 4 Airfield and Level 9 forts) you should, in conjunction with keeping Dutch Harbour closed and the bad weather) be able to run in reinforcements and force him to cover his reinforcement runs with carriers. This will hurt you and hurt you badly but over time you are bound to get lucky... It won't be quick and it won't be cheap BUT it will allow you to face up to his CVs time and time again while risking only very replaceable assets.

Right now you need to risk small, win small and build up over time. Attacking an undefended base, attriting his resupply convoys an maybe getting the occasional bomb into a CV or CVL so that when your new CVs come online in 5 months you can commit them with a better chance of success as they'll be facing a slightly whittled down KB.

I think your biggest issue at the moment is that you are trying to win big and therefore must risk big. Try to refocus on winning small so you only have to risk small and I think you'll see an upswing in your fortunes. If going by the risk small, win small doctrine you wouldn't have gone for Dutch and certainly wouldn't have had a CV battle and thus you'd now have 3 divisions and 3 carriers in waiting at Anchorage etc ready to commit to action when KB ran out fuel replenishment and had to leave the area. With this I'm sure Amchitka could have been yours.

Still, live and learn eh? ;) and this is just advice. It may well prove that my advice is horribly inappropriate.
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Feinder: Oh, Dave seems to in the offensive again! But as you said your forces at Hawaji are way too strong for him! I guess he just captured Midway since there was an opportunity to do so.

What kind of situation you got in Aleutians? He has committed quite a few forces here in this game.

I think he can reach autovictory in this one. I lost too many troops in China and he has too many base points currently. Air to Air losses are the only place I have given him some headaches.


Nemo: I take on your advices. The only problem is the lack of infantry units at my disposal. There is 1400 AP in Pearl, 1400 in Palmyra, 1900 in Christamas Island and 1300 in Midway. Anchorage has 600 AP available.

I think the way to with your advices is to build up Kodiak to level 5 airfield. This way I can even shutdown Adak and gain control larger areas in North.

When this is done than move ahead towards Amchitka and empty bases.

I have sent more submarines in the area.

It actually seems he might be withdrawing from Dutch Harbour. There is now 59 000 men currently present.


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Aztez,

Forum swallowed my last reply so here it goes again...
 
1. Aim small and bide your time. You have more than enough time to push into Tokyo via the northern route ( which also happens to be the route least amenable to being destroyed by KB. Sure the Japanese surface fleet will be sent in BUT you have a major surface fleet of your own and even a 2:1 exchange rate in terms of comparable surface units serves your purposes admirably.) and thus should, IMO, sit back, build up a little and then take Amchitka as soon as you can land sufficient force to be safe from counter-invasion.
 
 
2. I would seriously question your ability to push through the central and southern pacific if you are beginning your strikes only at the beginning of January 1944. On the other hand if you can establish even a single base at Onnekotan or Paramushiro Jima then you've got a good bomber base within range of the home islands. From there, well, the possibilities are obvious ;). Yes it will result in you having to face the brunt of the Japanese fighter and bomber force head on and suffering the necessary losses to blunt their predations but I believe it can be done and by the time you arrive over the Home Islands you should have the benefit of lots of nice long-range escorts ;). In addition everything you draw onto yourself on your own terms in the north is one thing less he can deploy elsewhere...
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Aztez,

Forum swallowed my last reply so here it goes again...

1. Aim small and bide your time. You have more than enough time to push into Tokyo via the northern route ( which also happens to be the route least amenable to being destroyed by KB. Sure the Japanese surface fleet will be sent in BUT you have a major surface fleet of your own and even a 2:1 exchange rate in terms of comparable surface units serves your purposes admirably.) and thus should, IMO, sit back, build up a little and then take Amchitka as soon as you can land sufficient force to be safe from counter-invasion.


2. I would seriously question your ability to push through the central and southern pacific if you are beginning your strikes only at the beginning of January 1944. On the other hand if you can establish even a single base at Onnekotan or Paramushiro Jima then you've got a good bomber base within range of the home islands. From there, well, the possibilities are obvious ;). Yes it will result in you having to face the brunt of the Japanese fighter and bomber force head on and suffering the necessary losses to blunt their predations but I believe it can be done and by the time you arrive over the Home Islands you should have the benefit of lots of nice long-range escorts ;). In addition everything you draw onto yourself on your own terms in the north is one thing less he can deploy elsewhere...


The forum can be quite an shark sometimes! [:D][:D][:D]

I agree with 100% that Northern route is the safest way to go at the moment. I do have my surface fleet intact so I do have a lot of BB firepower at my disposal.

I need to build up for time being in Aleutians but I doubt Dave can occupy every base there so this plan should work in the future too.

[:D] ...Weather is also in my side here.

Next step is to build up Kodiak. Than if I can take Dutch Harbour (depending on the situation) and Amchitka.

LBA threat from North should make Dave somewhat scared I think [;)]

As always I do appreciate the advices and input! [:)]

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Sorry for lack of updates. The game however has been moving ahead steadily. [:)]
 
We have now reached 15th of March 1943.
 
It seems that my LBA's have gained the aerial superiority on the battle of Dutch Harbour.
 
 
Day Air attack on Dutch Harbor , at 103,36
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 14
 
Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 194
 
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 4 destroyed, 6 damaged
 
Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 4 destroyed, 20 damaged
 
Japanese ground losses:
133 casualties reported
Guns lost 3
 
Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 110
 
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Day Air attack on Dutch Harbor , at 103,36
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9
 
Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 140
 
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed, 5 damaged
 
Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 4 destroyed, 8 damaged
 
Japanese ground losses:
135 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
 
Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 96
 
 
Now it seems Dave has moved his aircraft out of Dutch Harbour. Those US divisions are still present there and have been gaining strenght. (Totalling now just above 300 worth of assault points)
 
Also he is withdrawing his troops out of there too. My intel indicates that there are now 45 000 enemy units present. (nearly 15 000 men have been evacuated)
 
I'am building the airfields and fortifications at Kodiak. This will give another base from which to launch strikes againts Dutch Harbour and Adak!
 
There are 2 SeaBee units and 1/2 aviation unit moving into Kodiak as we speak.
 
As for the summary of CV engaments in Aleutians.
 
I can now confirm that this encounter cost me CV Hornet, CV Yorktown, CV Lexington, CV Enterprise and 2 US CVE's.

CV Saratoga was hit too  (Sys damage at 30) but she is now in the drydocks at San Francisco.
 
The remaining 2 US CV's (CV Wasp and CV Essex) are still at Anchorage waiting for the actions.
 
The latest Japanese ship that was confirmed sunk was CVL Soho. That leaves the enemy totals ship lost at 2 CVL's and 2 CVE's. This list does not CVE Tayho in it so at least that enemy capital ship should sunk.
 
Kido Butai or at least part of it is currently at Adak. I might have an chance of LBA strike againts it IF Kodiak becomes operational in time.
 
Royal Navy's CV Fleet along with Prince of Wales TF are currently enroute towards Perth. There these ships will refuel and start making their way towards CenPac.
 
RAF has kept the pressure on Burma. The airfield is now at 100% damaged. I'am also thinking of launching a small scale assault againts Myithkina. (Some Chinese units and Chindit Brigades) Dave does not seem to have strong garrison present there. This might be an trap however so I'am keeping my UK/Indian divisions still on defensive.
 
Since RN CV Fleet and Prince of Wales TF has now sailed that leaves me with 1 RN BB TF. (Older types of ships but they still do carry a punch if engaged)
 
 
 
 
 
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USS Lampon managed to torpedo DD Oshio. [:D]

US Airforce has kept the Dutch Harbour airfield unoperational.


Day Air attack on Dutch Harbor , at 103,36

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 5

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 183

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 8 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
225 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 113


My BB TF managed to suprise some of the enemy fast transports at Dutch Harbour.


Night Time Surface Combat, near Dutch Harbor at 103,36

Japanese Ships
AG AG-2084, Shell hits 6, and is sunk
AG AG-2085, Shell hits 10, and is sunk
AG AG-2086, Shell hits 7, and is sunk
AG AG-2087, Shell hits 6, and is sunk
AG AG-2088, Shell hits 9, and is sunk
AG AG-2089, Shell hits 12, and is sunk

Allied Ships
BB West Virginia
BB New Mexico
BB Indiana
CL Cleveland
CL Columbia
CL Montpelier
DD Strong
DD Waller
DD Nicholson
DD Gansevoort
DD Gillespie
DD Edwards
DD Wilson
DD Lamson
DD Preston

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Dutch Harbor at 103,36

Japanese Ships
AG AG-2057
AG AG-2058
AG AG-2059, Shell hits 9, and is sunk
AG AG-2060, Shell hits 10, and is sunk
AG AG-2061, Shell hits 8, and is sunk
AG AG-2062, Shell hits 13, and is sunk
AG AG-2063
AG AG-2064
AG AG-2065
AG AG-2066, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
AG AG-2067, Shell hits 9, and is sunk
AG AG-2068, Shell hits 7, and is sunk
AG AG-2081, Shell hits 13, and is sunk
AG AG-2082
AG AG-2083, Shell hits 3, and is sunk

Allied Ships
BB West Virginia
BB New Mexico
BB Indiana
CL Cleveland
CL Columbia
CL Montpelier
DD Strong
DD Waller
DD Nicholson
DD Gansevoort
DD Gillespie
DD Edwards
DD Wilson
DD Lamson
DD Preston


...and top of that even bombarded the Dutch Harbour.


Naval bombardment of Dutch Harbor, at 103,36

Allied Ships
CL Montpelier
CL Columbia
CL Cleveland
BB Indiana
BB New Mexico
BB West Virginia

Japanese ground losses:
559 casualties reported
Guns lost 16

Runway hits 20
Port hits 5
Port fuel hits 2
Port supply hits 5


US SeaBee units will start unloading at Kodiak next turn. This should make the base build up much quicker.



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Quiet turn.
 
 
Dave did put up an CAP over Dutch Harbour last turn.
 
 
Day Air attack on Dutch Harbor , at 103,36
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 14
A6M3 Zero x 4
A6M3a Zero x 10
 
Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 131
 
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed, 9 damaged
A6M3 Zero: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
A6M3a Zero: 3 destroyed, 4 damaged
 
Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 9 destroyed, 32 damaged
 
Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
 
Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 24
 

Additional allied bomber squadron will join up this assault. I simply cannot let him start building up this base.
 
US SeaBee units have now reached Kodiak and will start building up the airfield there. Currently it is level 3 (54%) so it should not take too long. Some fuel has also been shipped to that allied base.
 
Bulk of the KB seems still be anchored at Adak. I wonder how long they will stay there.
 
Akyab has been bombed by RAF. This base is pretty much unoperational in all terms [;)]
 
Things are moving ahead as planned. Dave will have an nasty suprise once Kodiak is big enough to support the LBA's joining up in the assault.
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RE: Japanese Naval fleet spotted... Aleutians heats up!

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Last turn was good for allied side! [:)]


CVE Hosho was confirmed sunk and my submarines did manage to put torpedo into CS Nisshin which eventually sunk too! [:D]

Sub attack

Japanese Ships
CS Nisshin, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage *sunk* [:D][:D][:D]
DD Asanagi
DD Matsukaze
DD Asakaze
DD Yugiri
DD Ayanami

Allied Ships
SS Haddock


Also two other Japanese destroyers were hit in Aleutians. (Dave got somewhat lucky since it might have been two CV's torpedoed instead)


Sub attack at 101,40

Japanese Ships
DD Asanagi, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage [:D][:D]
DD Matsukaze
DD Asakaze
DD Yugiri
DD Ayanami
DD Tokitsukaze
DD Oyashio
CL Oyodo
CV Shokaku

Allied Ships
SS Haddock

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Sub attack at 101,40

Japanese Ships
DD Ayanami, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
DD Matsukaze
DD Asakaze
DD Yugiri
DD Tokitsukaze
DD Oyashio
CV Shokaku

Allied Ships
SS Haddock, hits 1


So basically SS Haddock single handedly torpedoed CS Nisshin and 2 enemy DD's!!! [:D][;)] That captain deserves an Medal of Honour for his action!

Also Dutch Harbour airfield was bombed heavily and thus making it unoperational again! [:)]


Day Air attack on Dutch Harbor , at 103,36

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 157
B-24D Liberator x 47

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
124 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 140

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Day Air attack on Dutch Harbor , at 103,36

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 146
B-24D Liberator x 42

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
56 casualties reported

Airbase hits 12
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 81

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Day Air attack on Dutch Harbor , at 103,36

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 135
B-24D Liberator x 40

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
89 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 133


These kind of results will bring smiles into anyones face! [;)]

KB is spotted few hexes South of Adak so either it is moving away or he is trying to hunt naval vessels in the area. This remains to be seen.

Other good news is that Kodiak received additional aviation support so accordingly I have moved more aircraft into that base.

I have an feeling that Aleutians will become costly for Dave or at least I hope so.
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RE: Japanese Naval fleet spotted... Aleutians heats up!

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Two turns more turns passed here is the brieft description what has occured.
 
Dave decieded contest my airsuperiority over Dutch Harbour.
 
 
Day Air attack on Dutch Harbor , at 103,36
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 91
A6M3a Zero x 50
 
Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 134
B-24D Liberator x 35
 
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 6 destroyed, 18 damaged
A6M3a Zero: 10 destroyed, 21 damaged
 
Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 14 destroyed, 52 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 10 destroyed, 15 damaged
 
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Day Air attack on Dutch Harbor , at 103,36
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 77
A6M3a Zero x 29
 
Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 91
B-24D Liberator x 19
 
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed, 19 damaged
A6M3a Zero: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged
 
Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 9 destroyed, 29 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 2 damaged
 
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Day Air attack on Dutch Harbor , at 103,36
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 65
A6M3a Zero x 42
 
Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 79
B-24D Liberator x 17
 
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
A6M3a Zero: 4 destroyed, 9 damaged
 
Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 3 destroyed, 19 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 5 damaged
 
 
I think these fighters where actually KB pilots since next turn I got unopposed run at Dutch Harbour. Airfield damage level is 100% again [:D]¨
 
Other good news is that Kodiak is now level 4 airfield (26%) and I think It might turn into level 5 next turn.
 
The KB is still at Adak and IF Kodiak becomes level 5 airfield than there will be many 4E bombers targeting his crown of navy! [;)]
 
Question though. Since KB is propably docked at Adak is better to put my bombers on Naval or Port attack???
 
More allied submarines are moving into positions in Aleutians and Southern Pacific. In last two turns I managed to torpedo 4 enemy AK's! [:-]
 
I will try to take some screenshots when next turn arrives.
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RE: Japanese Naval fleet spotted... Aleutians heats up!

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Question though. Since KB is propably docked at Adak is better to put my bombers on Naval or Port attack???

HUMM .. naval just in case they sortie .. i dont like using the port secondary objectives option as it leads to horrendous unescorted stikes imo. ..

That said i still do it , like setting escorts on bombard while telling others it's a dumb move .. so do as i say not as i do [;)]
sorry for the spelling . English is my main language , I just can't type . and i'm too lazy to edit :)
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