How does Panzer Command run on older systems?

A brand new campaign-based 3D tactical engine covering combat in World War II, from the developers at Koios Works. The first operation covered is the famous "Wintergewitter" or Winter Storm, a desperate attempt by Hoth's 57th Panzer Korps to break through to the encircled 6th Armee at Stalingrad and the Soviet counter-attack by 2nd Guards Army that drove them back.

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How does Panzer Command run on older systems?

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Congrats to Koios on what looks like another great game!

I have played (and loved) the Tin Soldiers series, but my computer is getting a bit old (well more like ancient [:)] I'm wondering how Pazner Command has been running for people with older systems? (like mine for example - 256 MB RAM / 64 MB video card)

Thanks.

I realize the stated requirement is 512 MB RAM for XP users - will PzCom run on a 256 MB machine?
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ORIGINAL: amarok

Congrats to Koios on what looks like another great game!

I have played (and loved) the Tin Soldiers series, but my computer is getting a bit old (well more like ancient [:)] I'm wondering how Pazner Command has been running for people with older systems? (like mine for example - 256 MB RAM / 64 MB video card)

Thanks.

I realize the stated requirement is 512 MB RAM for XP users - will PzCom run on a 256 MB machine?



Based on my weeks worth of experience with the game and designing a scenario I'd say if you don't meeet the minimum requirements and play it on low settings you'll have nothing but pain. Invest in more memory, and you will need to meet (or probably exceed) the minimum in CPU as that is what makes the game churn in AI and simulating Turn phases - the thinking part of the game.


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I'd have to agree, PzC isn't the game to go challenging the minimum specs with. I suspect you would be in for nothing but frustration.

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I play on an old system:
AMD 2200+
768Mb RAM
GeForce4 Ti4600 128Mb

Resolution-1024x768
Texture Quality-Medium
LOD-Medium
No Antialiasing or Anisotropic filter
Five men infantry squads

I'm a bit into the third scenario of the campaign and haven't had any problems so far.
I don't feel that the AI takes too much time. Maybe 30-45 sec at the most.

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In playing the first scenario I get the same results as you prettyy much on my son's machine (which is similar). Try the new scenario I listed here: tm.asp?m=1188017

and let us know what your results are. You really just need to play one turn.


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Der Oberst
I gave movement orders to almost all of my units.
First phase: AI=35sec Turn sim.=2.30min
Reaction phase: AI=25sec Turn sim.=1.10min
FPS: ~10
Playable,but maybe not when more action starts?
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I've played the scenario through three turns on my sons machine with units being destroyed etc. - no real change in the timings. They're very similar to yours.

I guess my answer to the question of "how does it run on older machines" is: slowly. The game seems to be CPU intensive not memory. If you don't have at least a 2ghz machine you will endure long wait times at the Simulating Turn phase (2-3 minutes). Of course if you don't mind the wait then that's another story.

Frankly, if anyone wants to play any of the new games out there (Call of Duty 2, Red Orchestra, etc...) you wll have to upgrade anyway. Playing any of the new games with old hardware(Geforce4 cards or older, less than a gig of memory, less than 2ghz processors) will be a painful experience.


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I've found Panzer Command will run pretty well on a wide range of systems if visual quality is not your main concern. We include a ton of different options that can be tweaked to adjust performance to fit your system speed. However, when you have everything set to the lowest settings, the visuals are quite degraded and may not be satisfying.

As far as overall performance though, the processor is the most important thing currently with Panzer Command, since a lot gets done with the CPU currently for compatibility that we eventually plan to move off to the graphics hardware.

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I  meet the minimum specs and it doesn't run at all. This company is taking your $40 anyway printing specs that are plainly insufficient  to get the money of people who will certainly be dissatisfied. If they had a demo I would have known and saved my money
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Iv'e seen you saying this in a couple of posts in the forums. I have not, on the other hand, seen any post from you in the support forum
(or anywhere else) where you describe your problem and ask for advice.
That would be a better way to start your conversation with the developers IMO. Not knowing of what nature your problem is I suggest this link as a possible sollution:

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=1177879
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I meet the minimum specs and it doesn't run at all. This company is taking your $40 anyway printing specs that are plainly insufficient to get the money of people who will certainly be dissatisfied. If they had a demo I would have known and saved my money
You mention that the game "doesn't run at all." That sounds like you unchecked DX9.0c and/or .Net 1.1 on the install. The game will crash if the installation routine wasn't allowed to check for them and be registered. And please don't worry about corrupting your drivers or something. That simply doesn't happy with the installation.

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Why bother even listening to a guy who doesn't give error messages, symptoms or doesn't even ask for help in first place?

He seems to be pretty happy the way he is, otherwise he'd take steps to change it, no?
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There are no error messages both DX9 and the other box were checked and were installed it simply does nothing
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There are no error messages both DX9 and the other box were checked and were installed it simply does nothing

We already told you we need the logfile, which is very simple to identify in Windoze Exploder because it is in a folder called - surprise - "logs" :)

You really shouldn't make that much of a fuss since it is almost certain you screwed something up. We can say that because the game worked for everybody else after properly installing the DirectX and .net that came with the game (the one on Mickeysoft's site might not work).
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Bruce,

Please just post the log file and DxDiag file for us, per the instructions in this forum. Without those, we can't proceed any further to help with your problem. If you prefer to e-mail them, send them to me at erikr@matrixgames.com.

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In reference to Matrix support, I have had them bend over backwards to help me get a game running. Give them a chance. Mapper
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