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I find 2E works best at 6k .. 4E depends on house rules but i never fly lower then 11k on naval attack .. they need more exp to be truly effective .. IF you get the opportunity put any on transport duty when no enemy is close .. the extra exp helps a lot !

It would hav been good to view that surface combat as a replay ! wow that would have scared the living daylights out of the japanese. Bad luck on the BB's but im not suprised .. they are much easier to sink at sea .. [:@].. still you killed a lot of vals today .. his pools will be hurting soon.

Just as well you didnt rush troops to PH he's blockaded it .. ouch but he cant stay there forever .. although he might have 4E bases next to PH by then and you'll be blockaded by default .. this is looking nasty.

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Here are some screenshots as promised...


Lets start with China situation.




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...and then Russia. My recon actually indicates that he is moving troops out of border near Vladivostok. (This might not correct intel though)




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...major allied ships confirmed sunk so far.




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...and than those replacement rates of B17's in RHS.

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...and some of the most common fighter replacements rates.




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I find 2E works best at 6k .. 4E depends on house rules but i never fly lower then 11k on naval attack .. they need more exp to be truly effective .. IF you get the opportunity put any on transport duty when no enemy is close .. the extra exp helps a lot !

It would hav been good to view that surface combat as a replay ! wow that would have scared the living daylights out of the japanese. Bad luck on the BB's but im not suprised .. they are much easier to sink at sea .. [:@].. still you killed a lot of vals today .. his pools will be hurting soon.

Just as well you didnt rush troops to PH he's blockaded it .. ouch but he cant stay there forever .. although he might have 4E bases next to PH by then and you'll be blockaded by default .. this is looking nasty.

enjoy the visitors .. free babysitters [;)]


There is no particular houserules for flying alltidutes. (Common sense used here)

Yeah, the experience and moral is the problem. Allthough every Japanese naval strike mission seems to find an target and multiple hits. I find this somewhat ridicilous since I doubt that was the case IRL.

As for the replacement rates for allied bombers and fighters. They are low as you can see most screenshot!!! [:@][:@][:@]

Nemo has also stated that he will be going for India with guns blazing!!! Yeah, he has some 250 000 men in Johore Bharu and these guys will be heading to India ASAP. Meaning that I will be toasted for good. (I have sent some WC divisions to SEAC but currently there pretty much nothing guarding the HUGE country)

Maybe he pilot pools are depleting but it is not showing up in the bombing campaigns he seems to be able to conduct all around the map. (A lot of dead allied merchant ships... Air raids at Singapore.... China... Pearl.... )

As for Pearl... I'am desperately trying to engage the KB in surface combat with the remaining allied old DD's. But I will need a lot of luck!

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Darn pretty maps .. i can never understand the CHS and now RHS china situation . one look and i'm like "WTF" .. [:D][:D][:D]

russia looks more defensible than stock with only one railline at vlad and none in the east/north.. but i have zero exp with that theatre anyway.

Replacements ! eek .. at least P40E is OK ish .. B .. just assume permanent death imo .. 2/month .. whoopee .. im used to nikmod so the bomber numbers i can understand quite well . do NOT lose the b17Ds to the last plane or they will be immobile .. best to evac and swop over to mitchells imo.

As for the free babysitters .. well your giving them free food and lodgings .. only right and proper they babysit for you [;)]
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CobraAus made them. There is actually one digitized version for Stock game too available. (NIK mod)
 
Yeah, Russia is somewhat more defendable and they have quite an submarine fleet too. Nemo seems to withdrawing towards inner Manchuko. Don't know what his up to.
 
I would love to swop them for Mitchells or anykind of a bomber but there is None! ...and I do none available.
 
That is how babysitting SHOULD work!!!! [:D][:D][:D] ...but.... [:(]
 
 
Game date is 12th of December 1941
 
 
I'am not going to a theatre by theatre report. (Lack of time but here are the "highlights")
 
It was BS turn again. It seems KB has "unlimited" flying op points. I mean wave after wave Kate's and Val's flying againts my damaged BB's and transport ships fleeing into WC.
 
I had CV Lexington moving towards South too but she was unable to escape this ridicilious massacre either. Nemo says that my CV TF was out of range.. well Dauntless divebombers found CV Kaga but instead of flying againts that TF they flew againts CL Katori and AV Kinagawa. [:@] (I propably could have at least some of his CV's in sea if this lunacy would not have happen)
 
Nemo is bombing resource centers in Southern China. So I guess he is going to starve my troops to death.
 
El Cid mentioned that Oz will be EXPORTING supplies soon. [:D] Well, to be honest it is not going to happen.
 
Japanese Zeke's seem immune to my fighter protection so he can have a field day when ever he wants.
 
Also there the dilemma with aircraft pools. Nemo says that in couple months time I do have some and receive squadrons for "free" when they arrive. Well.. but when you do not have any replacements for them what is the use???
 
At least POW and BC Repulse are a live. Nemo is also landing more troops to Malaya peninsula.
 
What else... oh the elite and superior Japanese bombers seem to hit my transports at will in DEI and Philippines. Nemo has basically captured all the bases necessary for this massacre. (Mindanao is completely his and crucial bases at DEI are also being used by his LBA's)
 
He also has transport ships near Pearl Harbour. So he is propably going to land in one of those empty bases near Pearl Harbour. (Basically he will close down the airfield at Pearl soon)
 
He also states that Japanese economy will be in ruins in few months unless he is careful. [:D][:D][:D] I do not believe this to be case but naturally he is saying so... [:D]
 
Well... I can already say that Japanese are way stronger in RHS and one of the biggest PROBLEM playing the allies at start is the fact that Japanese player KNOWS where all the allied troops and ships are. That is quite an intelligence and master spies used by Japan [X(]. I think one the features developers should look at is the fact that allied player should have the opportunity to deploy his troops too diffrently so that Japanese side should actually THINK before committing to an invasion.
 
I'am being truthfull about these findings about RHS. Well I wonh't quit this one... no no... he will propably capture WC by the end with his "economy" in ruins! I don't know how he actually knew that I was withdrawing my BB's in South or how he knew that CV Lexington was trying to sail to South. I guess he is a psychic! [;)]
 
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The Outlook of future:
 
 
Russia & China: I dont think that Nemo has any major offensives brewing here. My recon flights indicate that he is not moving more troops in Russia's borders. Those Guerilla squads also give him hard time to sort his supply routes in China.
 
I think he basically keep bombing my resources here with his superior airforce. Not much I can here.
 
 
India & Burma: It seems that the invasion of India will begin late December or early January. As said I moved some of WC units to SEAC but they propably wohn't arrive in time. And Nemo will propably blockade the route Aden so these troops will stay there for good. (60 day transfers to Aden and than those need to be shipped to mainland India).
 
Nemo will propably bypass Burma. It is actually quite useless and land directly in India. British do not have many troops available nor much of an airforce. I have preserved AVG for this purpose and it is not going to stop though since I do not have any useful naval bombers available.
 
 
Central & North Pacific: I will be my salaries that Nemo will start invasion of Pearl Harbour soon. Since he quite nicely has done short work of airforce and managed to destroy US BB Force along with 2 US CV's this cannot be stopped.
 
He has invasion TF's in the area and propably will land on either Hilo any of those surrounding bases. Than he will proceed with his Airforce and close down the Pearl for good.
 
 
Philippines: I don't think that there will be any landings at Luzon soon. Yeah, I have some better forces there but he pretty much has made a fortress Luzon a big POW camp. Undoubtately he will keep bombing Manila and Clark. He does not need to do more.
 
DEI: I do not see DEI holding too long. He has already obtained vital airfields in this region. Meaning that he will bomb my Dutch airforce at will. The ABDA infantry is not strong so he basically will overwhelm the defenders.
 
Propably it is not going to be pretty.
 
 
Australia, NZ & South Pacific: Northernz Oz will propably be invaded early. Noway to reinforce the area.
 
Those Atolls and Solomons will be easy prey for him too. I just don't have infantry nor naval power to contest it.
 
Southern Oz should be safe at least for a while. NZ will propably be the place where I will be sending my reinforcements. This is propably the safest and most reasonable thing to do. This is ofcourse happening only if he does not blockade the whole South Pacific alltogether.
 
 
Summary: RHS will not STOP Japanese blitzkriege across the Pacific. In someways it will make it even more difficult for the Allied player to put up a decent fight.
 
...and the outcome will be dark for few months ahead in this one. Not many options left but....
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Game date is 13th of December 1941
 
 
 
More the same. Japanese have now advanced to Singapore by the looks of the odds it will be captured very soon indeed!!! [8|]
 
 
Ground combat at Singapore [UK]
 
Japanese Shock attack
 
Attacking force 34871 troops, 333 guns, 258 vehicles, Assault Value = 738
 
Defending force 43206 troops, 296 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 547
 
Japanese max assault: 612 - adjusted assault: 552
 
Allied max defense: 505 - adjusted defense: 349
 
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 5)
 
Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 4
 
 
Japanese ground losses:
1693 casualties reported
Guns lost 28
 
Allied ground losses:
218 casualties reported
 
 
So basically Nemo will propably capture the fortress within a week of game time wise. I removed most of aircraft towards India since that is still possible.
 
In elsewhere Japanese navy and airforce hunts down allied transport shipping fleeing Philippines and DEI. Several ships are reported hit with torpedoes and total amount of ships sunk rises.
 
In Pearl Harbour KB continues to fly missions againts ships fleeing towards WC. It is a massacre and there is nothing can do about. Only BB West Virginia and BB Arizona remain a float but they are very likely sunk soon.
 
Japanese army captures the following bases: Johnston Island, Miri and Boela.
 
2nd USCM Division is loading at San Diego. They will start their journey to Panama soon. (I do not have proper transport shipping available at this time) From Panama they will head either to NZ, OZ or Noumea. This is yet to be decieded.
 
Japanese navy bombards Batavia for the first time!
 
 
Naval bombardment of Batavia [Java], at 20,60 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!
 
 
Allied aircraft
no flights
 
 
Allied aircraft losses
Martin 139/B-10: 2 destroyed
 
19 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
BB Kongo
BB Haruna
CA Atago, Shell hits 4
CA Takao, Shell hits 5
CA Kumano
CA Suzuya
CA Mikuma
CA Mogami
CA Chokai
BB Mutsu
BB Nagato
 
 
Allied ground losses:
430 casualties reported
Guns lost 10
 
Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 3
Port hits 2
Port fuel hits 1
 
 
Dutch Torpedo and 2E bombers fly againts enemy shipping in the region but are unable to hit anything!!! [8|]
 
That was the key developments from latest turn.
 
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Here is the current score.

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December 14th 1941
 
 
Pretty much the day like everyday in this war.

KB continues with it unlimited strikes againts my shipping trying to escape towards WC. As I feared BB Arizona and BB West Virginia are torpedoed.

Nemo has now landed troops both at Midway and Lihue. At least my coastal guns at Midway fought back.

Coastal Guns at Midway Island [USA], 97,63, firing at TF 3
TF 3 troops unloading over beach at Midway Island [USA], 97,63



2000 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
CL Jintsu, Shell hits 36,  on fire
AS Taigei, Shell hits 47,  on fire,  heavy damage
AK Kunitama Maru, Shell hits 8,  on fire
AK Udo Maru, Shell hits 2
AK Toa Maru, Shell hits 4,  on fire
AK Okitu Maru, Shell hits 3,  on fire
AK Tama Maru, Shell hits 4,  on fire
AK Shogen Maru, Shell hits 11,  on fire,  heavy damage
AK Montreal Maru, Shell hits 15,  on fire,  heavy damage
AP Tsuruga Maru, Shell hits 4,  on fire,  heavy damage
AP Shintoku Maru, Shell hits 4,  on fire
AP Mitsu Maru #3, Shell hits 4,  on fire
AP Kanayamasan Maru, Shell hits 4,  on fire

Japanese ground losses:
1514 casualties reported
Guns lost 17
Vehicles lost 10

Allied ground losses:
49 casualties reported


However next turn Nemo will capture both of those bases.

Japanese superiority in Naval strikes continue in DEI and Philippines. He is striking my merchant fleets at will and propably will sink more 1/2 of them maybe even more.

Force Z is slowly making its way towards Aden. RN ships will rendevouz and Bombay.

Nemo has stated that I should have upgraded some of my bombers to Beauforts or B25's. Well that is a good idea but my pools don't have any of these aircraft available. (Only bomber available is B17. I have 17 of them in the pool currently) This is utter crap.

Actually there is not much to do currently. I'am trying to rescue my merchant fleets and gather them into bigger ports.

There is nothing be shipped to DEI. 2nd USCM is almost loaded and will be on its way to Panama.

First airstrike reported near Port Moresby. He is propably going to invaded that key base soon too.

Suprisingly no ground assaults made at Singapore. Oh well tomorrow it will be under heavy assault.

Even Japanese AK's seem to be able gun down US DD's at will. [8|]

Night Time Surface Combat, near Jolo [Jolo] at 39,59

Japanese Ships
AV Sanyo Maru
AV Sanuki Maru, Shell hits 3
ML Tsubame
AP Eiko Maru
AP Gyoko Maru
AK Azumasan Maru
AK Kanto Maru
AK Katuragi Maru
AK Shinyo Maru #5
AK Toyohara Maru
AK Shun Yuan

Allied Ships
DD John D. Ford, Shell hits 12,  on fire
DD Pope
PG Isabel, Shell hits 5,  on fire
PG Mindanao, Shell hits 10,  on fire,  heavy damage

Couple B17's actually manage to hit 1 enemy DD and 1 AK. Nothing serious though.

Dutch airforce flew againts Japanese transports nearing Palempagang. No hits reported.

That is pretty much it. [:-]


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To be brutally honest with you . moving the BB's from PH to the WC in dec is suicide, its an obvious allied move and nemo countered it perfectly. It why i never do it TBH, staying at PH is dangerous but flak will kill a lot of japanese and the yards etc save a lot of cripples from actually dying. That said if he invades PH they they die anyway but he has no idea of your damage levels and has to prepare his invasions appropriately i.e possible BB involvement.

Yur CV's got unlucky .. shame you didnt plant an egg on a Cv or 2.

as for singapore , absolutely nothing you could have done to prevent it, landing at JB is a guaranteed malaya killer. ( again its why i consider it gamey sailing round the singapore guns unnoticed ! )

DEI .. no suprise there with 1st turn move bonus and as you say massive japanese intelligence ( nice idea about maybe having a few units to place as allies before 1st turn to shake up the mix a little, but too many and the L4 a/f's become way too strong). However given the format and the fact than unless both players start a new game with CHS or RHS and neither has ever clapped eyes on the MOD ( a very unlikely event )there is little that can be done to prevent it). even on stock maps the ;good' DEI bases are no1 targets .. and even not using the 1st turn move bonus they will fall within a week anyway so no real loss imo.

Using 1st turn move to invade noumea though i would consider very gamey .. not rabaul though. anyhoo i'm beginning a rant, best stop now before i start in on why i dislike 'lunacy' games from both perspectives. ( not that this is a lunacy game mind you, im aware of the many good house rules you started with). its just a shame JB wasnt listed as one, as frankly thats the only problem i have with the game so far.

stick in there .. its going to be a rough ride and that US transfer might be a real india save move , we will find out.
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One evil advice. Move out some of the West Coast ULTRAHEAVY CD guns to Karachi [;)]

(I don´t have made the test, buth those guns may appear at Aden instead of Karachi)

As Rob said, never move out the battlewagons out of PH. It has a good shipyard, four ARs and LOTS of flak, you can easily kill 30 Vals/Kates per day after 12/7 surprise clears out.

JB is one of the most gameys things, once ago one suggested to put an "Artificial land" so all naval units should go thru Singapore first. A good idea worth of be refloated
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Rob: Yeah. Johore Baru was a crucial invasion. It pretty much cut my Malaya army in half. I tried to be a good sport and not "protest" about that landing since there was no rules againts it.
 
In hindsight the BB evacuation was a mistake. Allthough they actually moved towards South. The idea was to try and save at least half of them since I can guarantee that Nemo will invade Pearl Harbour soon.
 
He is already building up nearby airfields and soon the skies will be filled by Japanese LBA bombers. Pretty much meaning that all of them would have been destroyed and sunk in harbour. Flak might have killed some of his bombers but it would not have changed the outcome.
 
I didn't actually remember how crap the feeling was for the allied side in beginning... and to be honest this is going to be much easier for Japanese than in the stock. (Pilot and aircraft pools) No matter what El Cid says.
 
He is getting his forces nearer to Noumea. I actually believe he will land there in December. Some of his ships are nearing Port Moresby area.
 
Blitzk: Unfortunately I think that those guns will pop up in Aden. At least those ground inforcements are doing so.
 
Pearl was a mistake in someways but It would not have changed the outcome.
 
Oh and a word warning and important info before your game starts... WATCH out for those Recon Kate's KB is equipped in RHS!!!! They seem to work better than modern Radars and can pretty much spot everything. I haven't looked at their range but it is good!!!
 
You simply cannot escape those recon/search planes. They are devastating againts allied navy.
 
Johore Baru... well you said it... we did not have an houserule for it but yeah that was a "gamey" move but I wohnt complain.
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I complained in nemos thread < dons flameretardant suit> ! as all else seems within the RHS limits ..

The range of those planes is 10 iirc .. its in the RHS documentation. and in the database so im not giving away any info [;)].. will make raiding KB 'invincible' imo .. yikes!

RHS is a LOT more differant than i imagined .. extra jap CVL's too !

also just realised the pilot replacement is massive for jap pilots, although i think it better than stock , and this scenario is much more focused as improved a/c so the better training makes sense.

As you seem to be coming to conclude ,, japan does have some advantages , although i would imagine they must be countered by allied ones you just havnt found yet .. fingers crossed.
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hi, noticed that Allies have 13.015 PP... with how much Allies starts the game? I guess that so much PP have purpose???
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hi, noticed that Allies have 13.015 PP... with how much Allies starts the game? I guess that so much PP have purpose???

Yes. Actually most of the reinforcements start as West Coast command. (troops, aircraft) That is the reason why. Actually Japanese get 1000 points a day so plenty to go around.
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I complained in nemos thread < dons flameretardant suit> ! as all else seems within the RHS limits ..

The range of those planes is 10 iirc .. its in the RHS documentation. and in the database so im not giving away any info [;)].. will make raiding KB 'invincible' imo .. yikes!

RHS is a LOT more differant than i imagined .. extra jap CVL's too !

also just realised the pilot replacement is massive for jap pilots, although i think it better than stock , and this scenario is much more focused as improved a/c so the better training makes sense.

As you seem to be coming to conclude ,, japan does have some advantages , although i would imagine they must be countered by allied ones you just havnt found yet .. fingers crossed.


[:)] ...Thanks for the support Rob!

Auch, so he has a search perimeter 10 hexes!!! [X(][:(] That explains quite a lot of his naval strikes. (I propably should have looked the Japanese setup before starting this) ...you mean there actually more CVL's for Japan at the start??? That does have a bad sound to it too [8|] (I didn't know this either)

Actually I have not noticed any improvements for allied side yet. Hopefully they have actually made some. Oh, there is BB Ansom on RN but that is pretty much all I have found.
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