Talonsoft and Matrix

[pasternakski]

ORIGINAL: Les_the_Sarge_9_1
I've seen a female make a logical choice in a game, where so predictably a guy would simply think with his tool, I have to say, some days I really hate my gender.

And those of us who actually have a tool are proud of you.

Which gender is that, by the way? "The One-Piece Miniature Screwdriver Set" would be my guess.

[Les_the_Sarge_9_1]

ORIGINAL: pasternakski

ORIGINAL: Les_the_Sarge_9_1
I've seen a female make a logical choice in a game, where so predictably a guy would simply think with his tool, I have to say, some days I really hate my gender.

And those of us who actually have a tool are proud of you.

Which gender is that, by the way? "The One-Piece Miniature Screwdriver Set" would be my guess.

"And those of us who actually have a tool are proud of you."

But don't worry dude, maybe you'll get included next time

[Zap]

Some are led by their tool, others choose to keep their tools(or ego) under control. The latter for me. These kinds of threads don't threaten my manhood in the least.

[Les_the_Sarge_9_1]

Meanwhile Rhonda is laughing to herself, "the right tool for the job"

[rhondabrwn]

ORIGINAL: liuzg150181

ORIGINAL: rhondabrwn

Oh yea, my post-course evaluation form did not pull any punches! I roasted this guy and he never taught this particular course again, though he is now a Phd and is teaching at some university (possibly University of Wisconsin, that sounds right). He and a friend started a wargaming site called "joystick101.org" which is still around, but only the friend, Jon Goodwin, seems to be running it.

A bit off-topic,but i just visited the site which you had mentioned and it seems it is just a general gaming site, not pertaining to wargaming from its title and content?

That is correct, it is a general purpose site. Personally, although required to post to it during that class, I always found it's navigation confusing and appeal limited. It has, however, survived for some years so someone must like it. I had wargaming on my brain when I referred to it as a "wargaming" site, should have just said "gaming" site.

[rhondabrwn]

ORIGINAL: Les_the_Sarge_9_1

Meanwhile Rhonda is laughing to herself, "the right tool for the job"

And thinking... "like I said, I love all you guys, even the grumps" [:D]

[liuzg150181]

ORIGINAL: rhondabrwn
That is correct, it is a general purpose site. Personally, although required to post to it during that class, I always found it's navigation confusing and appeal limited. It has, however, survived for some years so someone must like it. I had wargaming on my brain when I referred to it as a "wargaming" site, should have just said "gaming" site.

A telling sign that you are being addicted to wargames.[:'(]

[rhondabrwn]

ORIGINAL: liuzg150181

ORIGINAL: rhondabrwn
That is correct, it is a general purpose site. Personally, although required to post to it during that class, I always found it's navigation confusing and appeal limited. It has, however, survived for some years so someone must like it. I had wargaming on my brain when I referred to it as a "wargaming" site, should have just said "gaming" site.

A telling sign that you are being addicted to wargames.[:'(]

Yep, ongoing dependency problem since about 1960. My first wargame was AH Gettysburg (hex version) purchased for $2.95 at a local drug store, followed by Tactics II, D-Day, Dispatcher, Air Empire, Civil War, and Chancellorsville. I never could understand how the whole line of AH games ended up in a Haag's Drugstore in Kokomo Indiana though! I bought out their entire stock over the course of about a year... saving my meagre 50 cent a week allowance plus odd job money that I earned.

[ravinhood]

.50 cents a week was a LOT of money back in the 60's I got that and sold GRIT newspapers for my 5 cent bottle of coke (real coke back then had the good stuff in it haha) and 10 cent comic books and of course the avalon hill wargames.

[liuzg150181]

ORIGINAL: rhondabrwn
Yep, ongoing dependency problem since about 1960. My first wargame was AH Gettysburg (hex version) purchased for $2.95 at a local drug store, followed by Tactics II, D-Day, Dispatcher, Air Empire, Civil War, and Chancellorsville. I never could understand how the whole line of AH games ended up in a Haag's Drugstore in Kokomo Indiana though! I bought out their entire stock over the course of about a year... saving my meagre 50 cent a week allowance plus odd job money that I earned.

Hmmm......impressive array of addiction,er i mean, wargames, and a rarity more so that you are female wargamer.

[rhondabrwn]

ORIGINAL: liuzg150181

ORIGINAL: rhondabrwn
Yep, ongoing dependency problem since about 1960. My first wargame was AH Gettysburg (hex version) purchased for $2.95 at a local drug store, followed by Tactics II, D-Day, Dispatcher, Air Empire, Civil War, and Chancellorsville. I never could understand how the whole line of AH games ended up in a Haag's Drugstore in Kokomo Indiana though! I bought out their entire stock over the course of about a year... saving my meagre 50 cent a week allowance plus odd job money that I earned.

Hmmm......impressive array of addiction,er i mean, wargames, and a rarity more so that you are female wargamer.

My big brother got me hooked. I was very tall, very shy, and had virtually no friends my own age in the neighborhood, so I buried myself in science fiction, comic books, and games (played solitaire, of course). My brother went on to become a full professor of history at the University of Texas. Our family vacations were all to see Civil War battlefields with an occasional National Park thrown in as a sop for me, the house was full of history books and my brother's collection of Britain's tin soldiers, so my childhood development was definitely warped away from dolls and tea parties. And frankly, things didn't get any better socially for me in high school either, my first date was in college. [WARNING: I can see the "Puke-o-meter" coming already] [:D]

But as I've said before in other threads, I'm more of a collector than a "gamer" - I really could care less about who wins, it's just the simulation aspects that appeal to me... the reenactment of history and exploration of alternative outcomes, strategies, and tactics.

[rhondabrwn]

ORIGINAL: ravinhood

.50 cents a week was a LOT of money back in the 60's I got that and sold GRIT newspapers for my 5 cent bottle of coke (real coke back then had the good stuff in it haha) and 10 cent comic books and of course the avalon hill wargames.

Hah! Something more in common!

I got "paid" to go to Sunday school... 25 cents plus the offering money. After church I headed for this tiny old fashioned drug store on the way home, paid a nickel for a large Cherry Phosphate and bought TWO 10 cent comics before heading home.

Many years later, the seven boxes of comics that resulted from my hoarding of every one went for $15,000 when sold.

I also have every science fiction paperback novel that I ever read too... another seven cartons that I've been carrying around for decades. Now if I could just find a good broker to dispose of those....

[ravinhood]

Sadly when I went into the Airforce my brother and sister-n-puke-law decided to have a garage sale and my comic book collection became part of it. Needless to say they sold a treasure of comic books for less than face value (I've never forgiven them for that) lol I don't go into their house and sell their junk in garage sales. But, my brother is always asking what happened to his "autographed picture 8x10 of Mickey Mantle" )~ Payback is hell.

[Les_the_Sarge_9_1]

"But as I've said before in other threads, I'm more of a collector than a "gamer" - I really could care less about who wins, it's just the simulation aspects that appeal to me... the reenactment of history and exploration of alternative outcomes, strategies, and tactics."

"I also have every science fiction paperback novel that I ever read too... another seven cartons that I've been carrying around for decades."

We both have a lot in common there Rhonda.

I play most wargames solo because I'm not really in it for the competition, I just want to see the event played out in many versions of chance.

I also have a very large collection of old military novels, many with prices like 35 cents or 60 cents on them. I have soooo many books written not by a scholar, but by the person that made the history.

[rhondabrwn]

ORIGINAL: ravinhood

Sadly when I went into the Airforce my brother and sister-n-puke-law decided to have a garage sale and my comic book collection became part of it. Needless to say they sold a treasure of comic books for less than face value (I've never forgiven them for that) lol I don't go into their house and sell their junk in garage sales. But, my brother is always asking what happened to his "autographed picture 8x10 of Mickey Mantle" )~ Payback is hell.

Ouch! [X(]

I can't imagine anyone not realizing that old comic books are big collector's items. I mean, even if you don't care about them, how can you avoid hearing about the high collector's value!

Not to mention the fact that it was "your" stuff and they should have kept their hands off it!

And you are still talking to him?

[rhondabrwn]

ORIGINAL: Les_the_Sarge_9_1

"But as I've said before in other threads, I'm more of a collector than a "gamer" - I really could care less about who wins, it's just the simulation aspects that appeal to me... the reenactment of history and exploration of alternative outcomes, strategies, and tactics."

"I also have every science fiction paperback novel that I ever read too... another seven cartons that I've been carrying around for decades."

We both have a lot in common there Rhonda.

I play most wargames solo because I'm not really in it for the competition, I just want to see the event played out in many versions of chance.

I also have a very large collection of old military novels, many with prices like 35 cents or 60 cents on them. I have soooo many books written not by a scholar, but by the person that made the history.

Yep, too bad you don't live around here. We could have some great conversations! I'll bet we could probably have some fun actually playing a game since we have the same objectives.

[Neilster]

Yep, ongoing dependency problem since about 1960. My first wargame was AH Gettysburg (hex version) purchased for $2.95 at a local drug store...

...as opposed to now, where youngsters with an ongoing dependancy problem often buy drugs at a local gaming store. [;)]

Speaking of gamers (well RPG gamers really but to a certain extent this is applicable to wargamers), here's the trailer for the movie Gamers. Err...kids...look away now....probably.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UktD-U-GEM

Cheers, Neilster

[ravinhood]

ORIGINAL: rhondabrwn

ORIGINAL: ravinhood

Sadly when I went into the Airforce my brother and sister-n-puke-law decided to have a garage sale and my comic book collection became part of it. Needless to say they sold a treasure of comic books for less than face value (I've never forgiven them for that) lol I don't go into their house and sell their junk in garage sales. But, my brother is always asking what happened to his "autographed picture 8x10 of Mickey Mantle" )~ Payback is hell.

Ouch! [X(]

I can't imagine anyone not realizing that old comic books are big collector's items. I mean, even if you don't care about them, how can you avoid hearing about the high collector's value!

Not to mention the fact that it was "your" stuff and they should have kept their hands off it!

And you are still talking to him?

Lol yeah I should have type EX-sister-n-puke-law, at the time they sold them she was still my sister-n-law and it was her garage sale and her idea, he was more or less the gopher. I imagine she talked him into selling them since I was away in the air force.

Besides blood still remains thicker than money (mostly) hehe. He's 60 now and lives with ME! Just proves " A bird never flew so far it didn't need it's tail in windy weather".
And I still got that 8x10 autographed copy of Mickey Mantle of HIS. I figure it's worth probably about the same as my comic books. On his or my death bed I will tell him about it. lol (ain't I just a stinker)