OT-Decision Games WitP
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RE: OT-Decision Games WitP
Wow! Glad to know this is finally shipping - I've been drooling over the adds in my subscription to S&T for over a year now. I had a lot of fun with the old game as a kid, but there is no way I can set something like this up now - much less find the time to play it.
Personally, I really like the idea of the mini-maps - would love to see a computer simulation try something similar.
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RE: OT-Decision Games WitP
ORIGINAL: Mike Solli
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I really hope you're talking about two people. [:(]
I'd like to second that one...[X(]
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My copy showed up last night. Tonight (between turns of this WitP) I'm going to scan all the counters. [:D]
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RE: OT-Decision Games WitP
Did the repo men show up as well, to take away the family members you put into hock for this thing?
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Something tells me Matrix is going to have some impressive bandwidth usage tomorrow. [:D] [:D]
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Did the repo men show up as well, to take away the family members you put into hock for this thing?
They came, they saw, they left. They actually paid me to keep my two teenage kids. [:D] Helped fund the game.
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So it all worked out in the end...
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ORIGINAL: Mike Solli
ORIGINAL: Mogami
(It was Bears daughter in law and sister in law)
I really hope you're talking about two people. [:(]
Hi, Jenny and Linda might be a clue?
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RE: OT-Decision Games WitP
watching 2 proto geeks try to play one game of Advanced Squad Leader at a coffee shop with perilously stacked counters was enough for me in regards to the board wargaming experience. I'll stick to cat proof computer counters. [:D]
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ORIGINAL: Mogami
ORIGINAL: Mike Solli
ORIGINAL: Mogami
(It was Bears daughter in law and sister in law)
I really hope you're talking about two people. [:(]
Hi, Jenny and Linda might be a clue?
Yeah, I know Mog. Just a joke. Try figuring it out if it is only one person though.

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RE: OT-Decision Games WitP
ORIGINAL: Ron Saueracker
Any chance you can post some of the rules and compare them to WITP's design? I'd especially like to see rules for the land combat, surface ship combat, carrier vs carrier and A2A combat, and some of the ops and logistics stuff.
Rulebook One is available online:http://www.decisiongames.com/WITP_Basic_RulesBK1.pdf.zip
There is another rulebook covering production and other stuff, two books of charts, one scenario/reinforcement book, and one examples of play/optional rules books.
I plan on converting this game for use on Aide de Camp 2 for Decision Games, but only if they send me the graphics files. Still waiting. Only way I'll every be able to play it..again. Did so with a heavily revised version of the original - solitaire! My version: 3 types of supplies, individual aircraft, telescoping turns ranging from one week to half day, etc. Sound familiar - in 1980 no less.
One really GOOD thing about board wargames is that when the designers got something wrong one can easily fix it oneself (if you're got a historical bend and are saavy enough). No need to wait for a patch or convince programers to look at something.
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ORIGINAL: Mike Scholl
Now for the important question. Would ANYONE out there be interested in playing a "Moderated, hidden movement, version" of this game for a 9 day intensive face-to-face encounter? Multi-player, with Team Commands? Possibly in Kansas City? Next Summer? Just trying to see if there is any interest left in such an endevour?
I'm in.
Jim
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Rulebook One is available online:http://www.decisiongames.com/WITP_Basic_RulesBK1.pdf.zip
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RE: OT-Decision Games WitP
ORIGINAL: Mogami
I know there are still a lot of board gamers out there and I respect their choice but I am now a computer gamer and view board games much the way I do old Commodore-64 games. Very good for their day and a lot of fun once apon a time.
I find this a bit odd actually. Having been an avid board gamer then PC gamer, I really don’t equate the two as the same kind of experience.
Board gaming is really all about the social aspect of interacting with the other players. Part of the reason forums like this exist is because with PC games social interaction is very limited so we reach out on public forums to other like minded individuals to help fill that void.
But it isn’t real time interaction for the most part and I get much less satisfaction interacting in cyberspace than I do from a bunch of like minded rowdy wargamers all smelling up the same room together. Especially after the first few beers have been consumed.
Nope for me board gaming is still quite enjoyable, but the opportunities to board game have dwindled. I guess because like you, many equate them as the same thing and no longer look for others to game with face to face. I am guilty of this too since I was an instigator of get togethers in the past but not so much these days.
Jim
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RE: OT-Decision Games WitP
I'd say it comes down to the fact that the computer is willing and able to play whenever you want, 100% of the time. Not so for a meatbag opponent.
I'm sorry, but I think time has gotten away from a monster paper game like Decision Games WitP. And $420?!?!?!? Come on!
I'm sorry, but I think time has gotten away from a monster paper game like Decision Games WitP. And $420?!?!?!? Come on!
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But it isn’t real time interaction for the most part and I get much less satisfaction interacting in cyberspace than I do from a bunch of like minded rowdy wargamers all smelling up the same room together. Especially after the first few bears have been consumed.
That's a rough-sounding crowd! Stinky, bear-eating wargamers doesn't really mesh with my experience. It more the stinky, chip-eating geeky types.
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Hi, The only problem with board games is I've played many where all the players began the game as friends. The game was never finished and it sometimes came down to a punch in the snoot.
I've had players get upset over the results of a computer game but they have not been able to throw a punch. (had some really rude SPWAW related emails) Had a few online games of COG get ugly (but all you can do online is call each other names)
I also think more then a few board gamers I've encountered cheat. (dice yech I hates them) if WITP was the board game I would need to track over 200 index cards per turn and trust the other side was actually writting down all those orders in advance. (and not like I discovered in Rochester NY writing 3 sets and then pulling the one that best suited them) (they even had "generic" orders cards that they would fill in the blanks as required. They were amazing for always having exactly the right orders for every turn.)
( If the dogs had not gotten into a squabble amonst themselves I never would have learned they were cheating.)
I've had players get upset over the results of a computer game but they have not been able to throw a punch. (had some really rude SPWAW related emails) Had a few online games of COG get ugly (but all you can do online is call each other names)
I also think more then a few board gamers I've encountered cheat. (dice yech I hates them) if WITP was the board game I would need to track over 200 index cards per turn and trust the other side was actually writting down all those orders in advance. (and not like I discovered in Rochester NY writing 3 sets and then pulling the one that best suited them) (they even had "generic" orders cards that they would fill in the blanks as required. They were amazing for always having exactly the right orders for every turn.)
( If the dogs had not gotten into a squabble amonst themselves I never would have learned they were cheating.)
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