Is there a good War in Europe scenario?

[SMK-at-work]

I've been playing "Into the Reich", and have read the review of another scenario posted in the AAR forum, but they seem to have major problems - eg ITR has a OOB where each division seesm to represent a regiment in some theatres (such as Nth Africa - the Afrika Korps/Panzer Armee Afrika appears with about 10 tank and mechanised divisions, the Italians start with about 20 divisions there....)....

so I'm in hte market for a more "realistic" ww2 scenario if there's one about?

[Veers]

Yes. There is one, the greatest one; Europe Aflame. It is the definitive scenario for WWII in Europe for TOAW.
It is avaialble here...http://www.xtreme-gamer.com/forums/show ... 28691...at the bottom of the page.

[Curtis Lemay]

ORIGINAL: Veers

Yes. There is one, the greatest one; Europe Aflame. It is the definitive scenario for WWII in Europe for TOAW.
It is avaialble here...http://www.xtreme-gamer.com/forums/show ... 28691...at the bottom of the page.

It is included with TOAW III. Find it in the WWII-Misc. folder.

[SMK-at-work]

lol - thanks I'll have a look!

[kfmiller41]

you better have ALOT of time on your hands though[:D]

[Veers]

Ahh...Curt, good point, but I think that Mark has come out with an upgraded version since TOAW III came out...if memory serves.

Miller41 has a good point. Also, you need a human opponent, as it is far too complex to have the PO work.

[FaneFlugt]

http://www.strategyzoneonline.com/forum ... hp?t=28691

Latest version I think

[SMK-at-work]

Eek...yes - not sure I'm going to be alive long enough to play that!!
 
I'd really like a corps level one rather than division - I like high level games for my entertainment - I havent' seen anything like that around the traps - perhaps I need to develop an interest in creating scenarios!!
 
Let's see.....use the map from ITR, can get a WW1 OOB easy enough (a WW1 one would be good too...), WW2 OOB a bit harder but not impossible.....
 
 

[golden delicious]

ORIGINAL: SMK-at-work

Eek...yes - not sure I'm going to be alive long enough to play that!!

I'd really like a corps level one rather than division

...Europe aflame is corps level.

[rhinobones]

ORIGINAL: golden delicious...Europe aflame is corps level.

Think you missed his point. He was stating that . . .

"I'd really like a corps level one rather than division - I like high level games for my entertainment"

I take "entertainment" to be equavilent to having "fun".

Surely you must admit, TOAW at the Corps level as defined above, is the same as having "fun".

Best Regards, RhinoBones

[SMK-at-work]

I play everythign for "fun"[8D]
 
But I know that I prefer games where I don't have to worry about moving anti-tank battalians around to counter armoured thrusts, and preferably with few enough counters so I can do several moves in a night - I'm already playing a game of FitE, and that's way too low level for me.  Into the Reich does away with a lot of the support units and isn't too bead - even tho it's only at "Dvision" level, but the OOB's seem a bit dodgy.......a French Panzer Legion in Dec 1941 and the Afrika Korps/Pz Armee Afrika of a dozen or so German Divisions??[&:][&:]

[Curtis Lemay]

ORIGINAL: SMK-at-work

Eek...yes - not sure I'm going to be alive long enough to play that!!

I'd really like a corps level one rather than division - I like high level games for my entertainment - I havent' seen anything like that around the traps - perhaps I need to develop an interest in creating scenarios!!

Let's see.....use the map from ITR, can get a WW1 OOB easy enough (a WW1 one would be good too...), WW2 OOB a bit harder but not impossible.....

If that's your taste, I've got a couple of "beer & pretzel" scale scenarios in the TOAW III collection you might want to take a look at: "Germany 1945" and "Soviet Union 1941". Both are Corps/Army @ 50km/hex.

[TOCarroll]

There is also a divisional level "Beer & Pretzels" European theater sceanario (I got it at Rugged Defense). Don't let the scale fool you-it's fast and fun. I'm trying to remember the name....."World War Two" if you look in Rugged Defense, the blurb (on the left), will contain the phrase "Beer & Pretzels" [:'(], and will go on to explain that the designer wanted to model A/H's "Third Reich". It also has a PO.

Other possibilities include "Inside The Reich", and "The 4th Repbulic" (Which is hypothetical. Both have a PO, and provide an entertaing game. [:D] WARNING: Do NOT try 4th Repbulic unless you want the PO to kick you ass the first time around.[:-]

[golden delicious]

ORIGINAL: rhinobones

Think you missed his point. He was stating that . . .

"I'd really like a corps level one rather than division - I like high level games for my entertainment"

This following on from his remark that he wouldn't have enough time to play the scenario. Thus I figured that he thought the scenario was too large and was asking for one that was corps level. Since there are quite a lot of divisions and smaller units in Europe Aflame, one could be forgiven at a cursory glance for not noticing that corps dominate.