9th Company

[Przemcio231]

Ohh come on... that is some times the only way to get some movies[:D]

[Terminus]

Not any more...

[Onime No Kyo]

Cant stand the thing.

[Przemcio231]

Why something happend to it??

[Onime No Kyo]

ORIGINAL: Przemcio231

Why something happend to it??

I dont like the way it stores files. It fills up your entire HD with half downloaded junk...which never seemed to happen with either Kazaa or Limewire.

[fabertong]

A remember from film school a great russian war movie ......the english title was 'The 41st'............

[scott64]

Anzio was on the History Channel today  [:)]

[shoevarek]

Each good war movie (not fairy tell) has anti-war message after all. I haven't seen a lot of Russian war movies (or maybe i saw a lot in my childhood and do not remember any more) but recently I watched "The Cranes are flying" (Mikhail Kalatozov) and "Come and see" (Elem Klimov). They really impressed me. Other good movies on my shelf are "Stalingrad", "Thin red line", "Full metal jacket", "Dr Strangelove", "Apokalypse Now". There is another good one I bumped into few months ago - "Devil on the door step" by Jiang Wen.  

From Polish moves I liked "Kanal" and "Ashes and Diamonds" by Wajda (Cybulski was such a great actor, you have to see "Saragossa's manuscript"), "Eroica" and of course "Giuseppe in Warsaw" . They break some Polish myths, but probably are tough to understand by broader public. 

Ha, I would forgot - "No mans land" was pretty interesting too.

[fabertong]

One of the best war movies ever is 'Night and Fog'.........(1955).....this should be shown to every child at school at say 12 years old.............one of the most moving films I have ever seen...........

[Terminus]

Very good, that one...

[Honda]

"I just drive, I don't know what make them run. Woof,woof,woof! Thet's my other dog impression." CLASSIC [&o]
But since we're on Russian war films i rember one (although it's not a war movie as such, only the main character is an Afgan vet). This Russian returns from Afganistan after 10 years. He was presumed to be dead and everything. But he converted to Islam over there after being captured and following the jubilation in his home village everyone starts looking at him suspisiously 'cause he's so differnet form them. His mother is old and feeble and his brother is a no good drunk. There really wouldn't be anything worth noting about the movie if towards the end of it a corrupt village official, an ex-commie, wasn't swallowed by a giant pig's head that emerged from the nearby lake. Really, a reward for staying up late at night to watch a low-budged russian drama.[:D]

[Onime No Kyo]

ORIGINAL: fabertong

A remember from film school a great russian war movie ......the english title was 'The 41st'............

Hmm...was that about border guards?

[Onime No Kyo]

ORIGINAL: shoevarek

Each good war movie (not fairy tell) has anti-war message after all. I haven't seen a lot of Russian war movies (or maybe i saw a lot in my childhood and do not remember any more) but recently I watched "The Cranes are flying" (Mikhail Kalatozov) and "Come and see" (Elem Klimov).

Cranes are Flying is an outstanding movie. Come and See, IMHO, pretty much sucked. It was too artsy fartsy. I suppose its not their fault since it was so closely based on the book, but it did not make for good film watching.

And I agree...every good war movie has an antiwar message. But then, ultimately, every war has an antiwar message.

[Onime No Kyo]

ORIGINAL: Honda

"I just drive, I don't know what make them run. Woof,woof,woof! Thet's my other dog impression." CLASSIC [&o]
But since we're on Russian war films i rember one (although it's not a war movie as such, only the main character is an Afgan vet). This Russian returns from Afganistan after 10 years. He was presumed to be dead and everything. But he converted to Islam over there after being captured and following the jubilation in his home village everyone starts looking at him suspisiously 'cause he's so differnet form them. His mother is old and feeble and his brother is a no good drunk. There really wouldn't be anything worth noting about the movie if towards the end of it a corrupt village official, an ex-commie, wasn't swallowed by a giant pig's head that emerged from the nearby lake. Really, a reward for staying up late at night to watch a low-budged russian drama.[:D]

I know exactly what youre talking about and I cant think of the name for the life of me. Not a terribly good movies, as most of the post Perestroika stuff was.

[shoevarek]

Come and See, IMHO, pretty much sucked. It was too artsy fartsy.

That is actually why I liked it so much. The guy by a strange turn of fortune survives massakre of entire village. The war as illogical, chaotic, surreal experience. When you read about deportations and annihilations of villages in todays Russia or Poland it is all dry facts. That move actually tried to bring the atmosphere of fear and uncertainty. Good thing was also that it did not have excessive propaganda and cheap shownaship (unlike Saving Private Ryan for example).

[Onime No Kyo]

ORIGINAL: shoevarek

Come and See, IMHO, pretty much sucked. It was too artsy fartsy.

That is actually why I liked it so much. The guy by a strange turn of fortune survives massakre of entire village. The war as illogical, chaotic, surreal experience. When you read about deportations and annihilations of villages in todays Russia or Poland it is all dry facts. That move actually tried to bring the atmosphere of fear and uncertainty. Good thing was also that it did not have excessive propaganda and cheap shownaship (unlike Saving Private Ryan for example).

Oh....its a real story, not sure if you knew. It was taken act for act from a memoir. There is a memorial at the site of the vilage.

http://www.khatyn.by/en/

The reason I didnt like the movie is because I dont like any movies that have to resort to the "spin-spin-spin-spin around a fixed point until youre dizzy" to get that "surreal" effect. It may have been cutting edge cinematography in the 30s but were a bit past that now. And besides, I'm a layman when it comes to cinematic tricks. If I notice it being done, I wont be impressed, just annoyed.

[Terminus]

Hmmm, is this THE Katyn?

[Onime No Kyo]

ORIGINAL: Terminus

Hmmm, is this THE Katyn?

Depends. In English I have trouble differentiating. There is the Katyn of the mass grave of Polish officers. There is also the Khatin that was a Belorussian village burned with all inhabitants by an Einsatzgruppe (or however you spell it) and later made into a memorial (to symbolize the other 2000 or so that met the same fate). The movie is, in part, about the latter.