What is happening here?

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What is happening here?

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In the following graphic, my German para battalion has come from the west. It was still light during the advance. Three companies lined up and advanced to the objective (the southeastern portion of the orchard). The HQ followed suit. Somehow the three infantry companies managed to march right around the enemy AA battery. And of course my HQ stumbled right into it. HQ was routed...and by nightfall was in the Luga Airfield `city`. It licked its wounds there.

I reassigned another assault on the area, hoping my infantry units would attempt to clear the area out. Morning broke. And they are all still sitting there, and my HQ is advancing on the area again. I am a little worried about him.

Why aren`t my infantry clearing this AA battery out?

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okay, AA unit eliminated. But still very curious how they just walked around it in the initial assault.

No big deal. Just a question I thought I could learn something from.
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Was your "aggro" set to low or high? If low then they were ordered to ignore the enemy and push forward.

Otherwise I guess the (bofors?) platoon was just well hidden and/or it was "sunset" or "dusk" and the line Coy's just didn't spot 'em until it was too late.

Then they apparently waited until daylight to bring it under fire from their current positions. You could have ordered a night assault to clear the AA out. Otherwise as far as your line Coy's were concerned they had completed the orders from the evening before.
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Arjuna,

Could you shed some light on this? The way this unit has done its path search seems a bit inefficient. Is this happening due to a lack of computer resources you dare to throw at the problem?

The unit is planning to cross the stream and then recross the stream 100 meters up, just to go north. When I see things like this, I scratch my head...and usually play on. But I figured I would ask.

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Oh yeah...

Here is another example of the HQ leading the assault "situation" which I believe is patched now. I really, really hope it is.

In this example, the battalion is advancing on the assault objective at the right of the screen. No units are routing. But the HQ company is "pulling" ALL of the subordinates along. No enemy units even in sight.

Strange. I really hope we will be seeing this a lot less after the patch is released.

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ORIGINAL: barbarossa2


Why aren`t my infantry clearing this AA battery out?


I think this is due to the static nature of flak units on Malta. Some of them are holding even completely surrounded by several FJ Bns.
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ORIGINAL: barbarossa2
The unit is planning to cross the stream and then recross the stream 100 meters up, just to go north. When I see things like this, I scratch my head...and usually play on. But I figured I would ask.

As far as I can tell, there is a waypoint just accros the stream. The unit is first ordered to go to the waypoint. Waypoints are mandatory, they are not broad indication. Units will try to reach them, even if they are occupied. After that, it's not clear from the screenshot, but it looks like the final destination is North, so the unit is heading North. It might be a leg unit, so roads do not have so much importance. You can check movement rates by right-clicking on map.

Keep in mind that you are at the highest magnification and that pathes and terrain elements are aligned on an invisible 100 m grid, even though all seem smooth on the screen.

I hope this helps,

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ORIGINAL: barbarossa2

Arjuna,

Could you shed some light on this? The way this unit has done its path search seems a bit inefficient. Is this happening due to a lack of computer resources you dare to throw at the problem?

The unit is planning to cross the stream and then recross the stream 100 meters up, just to go north. When I see things like this, I scratch my head...and usually play on. But I figured I would ask.

Thanks!

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As JeF so keenly observed, someone ( ie you Chris ) has placed a waypoint on the other side of the river. So like the dutiful subordinates that they are, they have complied by crossing the river. To avoid this, zoom in and ensure your waypoints are positioned on the desired side of the river.
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How does it go with supplies/basics on this scenario?

I'm at the end of day 4 and almost all of my units are out of basics and HE ammo. As a result the fatigue is approaching 90%. And it seems that during last 2 supply phases they got 0 basic or HE ammo. Bases also keep being empty. The supply curve says that on day 4 SEP1 should be on 80%. I'm confused.. [&:]
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Helpless,
 
The Battle of the Maltese Cross scenario is one of those affected by the air drop resupply bug that will be fixed with the patch 2.
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Ok, thanks Dave! [&o] Thought it was fixed ... [:)]

So, the problem is that airdropped supplies doesn't arrive to the destination? Shouldn't then bases be supplied through the (much larger) SEP1 provided by airlanding? And this one shouldn't be affected by this bug, isnt' it?

Just want to know what to expect when it's fixed.. [:)]

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i.e. me Chris...

HA![:D] Arjuna, yes! I remember placing the waypoint now! But when I took the picture, I entirely forgot that I had actually ordered a singe unit on the western flank around! I almost never giveorders below battalion (except to divisional and regimental assets). Silly me.

Sorry!

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ORIGINAL: Helpless
So, the problem is that airdropped supplies doesn't arrive to the destination? Shouldn't then bases be supplied through the (much larger) SEP1 provided by airlanding? And this one shouldn't be affected by this bug, isnt' it?

Just want to know what to expect when it's fixed.. [:)]

Pavel,

The bug affects both air drop and air landing SEPs ( but ground SEPs are fine ).
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