Well Luskan was looking for another competent player... and he got me [:D] Never played Allies before for any real length so I'm sure he will abuse me for a while.
Dec 7th: Day of Infamy
Well The banana took his first turn from his game with Raver - tweaked it some - and hammered me hard. Pearl is a mess - every BB was hit hard as well as a few Cruisers. The airfield was mauled, but he didn't touch the repair yards - Hmmm... I also like smacking the repair yards around too - but only on Day 2...
IJN must have pyschics on their staff as the Banana intercepted every surface TF in the SRA with superior force. He even brought in a baby CV to deal with the Boise.
With the heavy combat the IJN has a lot of damaged ships, but only a couple were hit hard.
Day One Losses:
CL Boise, CL Marblehead
6 Destroyers sunk
PH Damages:
All 8 BBs hit hard. Damage estimates are placing them in dry dock for at least 6 months and up. Just repairing them will tie up a lot of my repair capacity on the West Coast - looks like '42 will be known as Battleship Repair Year.
4 Cruisers were hit, but Pearl should have them back in fighting shape in 4-8 weeks. 4 Destroyers were also hit and they are expected to be repaired on schedule with the Cruisers.
Day & Night: Luskan vs Xargun
Moderators: wdolson, Don Bowen, mogami
-
Mike Solli
- Posts: 16367
- Joined: Wed Oct 18, 2000 8:00 am
- Location: the flight deck of the Zuikaku
RE: Day & Night: Luskan vs Xargun
Now this should be interesting. Nothing better than a couple of the old farts duking it out. [:D]
Is Luskan going to be allowed here? If not, will he have an AAR?
Looking forward to this one.
Is Luskan going to be allowed here? If not, will he have an AAR?
Looking forward to this one.
Created by the amazing Dixie
RE: Day & Night: Luskan vs Xargun
Dec 8th: More Pain
The attacks on Day One made we wonder what to do with Force Z - escape to Burma or play in the SRA. I decided I could not let the banana have it easy in the SRA, so the 3 capital ships in Singapore were sortied to Kuching to oppose the landing there. Other Allied naval forces were either ordered to retreat from enemy forces or oppose the initial landings as best they could.
BB PoW, BC Repulse and CL Danae ran into the IJN screening force at Kuching and got spanked. The DD torpedo gunners were dead on in a night action. All ships were hit with torps and the Repulse broke apart and sank. The RN return shots managed to sink 2 IJN DDs, crippled the CL Sendai and heavily damage 5 other IJN DDs.
4 DDs from Manila attacked the IJN landing at Jesselton. In a brief battle 1 IJN AP was sunk and another damaged. 6 PTs attacked the landing at Taytay and sunk 1 IJN AP and damaged another.
The CA Houston surged forth to meet the IJN Landing at Legaspi and hammered an enemy TF - 2 MSWs and a single AK were sunk by the Houston before she retired.
On Turn One the banana boats showed up at Midway and unloaded some troops. The CV Lexington was nearby and was ordered to say hello - KB was too far away to intercept.
Air strikes claimed 3 ships sunk (1 PG, 1 MSW and 1 AK) and damaged an AP. The Lex was then ordered south away from Midway before the KB could show up.
Banana proved to be good at intercepting my TFs with his surface forces and his air forces did some damage as well.
Allied Day 2 Losses:
BC Repulse - only real loss
1 TK, 1 ML, 2 AK and 1 MSW were also sunk.
IJN Losses:
3 MSW, 1 PC, 1 PG, 1 AK, 2 DD, 2 AP
Not a bad turn except for the loss of the Repulse. At this point I thought I was doing good - although I was disappointed with the performance of the RN at Kuching. I thought the RN was trained to fight at night... but I guess not.
The attacks on Day One made we wonder what to do with Force Z - escape to Burma or play in the SRA. I decided I could not let the banana have it easy in the SRA, so the 3 capital ships in Singapore were sortied to Kuching to oppose the landing there. Other Allied naval forces were either ordered to retreat from enemy forces or oppose the initial landings as best they could.
BB PoW, BC Repulse and CL Danae ran into the IJN screening force at Kuching and got spanked. The DD torpedo gunners were dead on in a night action. All ships were hit with torps and the Repulse broke apart and sank. The RN return shots managed to sink 2 IJN DDs, crippled the CL Sendai and heavily damage 5 other IJN DDs.
4 DDs from Manila attacked the IJN landing at Jesselton. In a brief battle 1 IJN AP was sunk and another damaged. 6 PTs attacked the landing at Taytay and sunk 1 IJN AP and damaged another.
The CA Houston surged forth to meet the IJN Landing at Legaspi and hammered an enemy TF - 2 MSWs and a single AK were sunk by the Houston before she retired.
On Turn One the banana boats showed up at Midway and unloaded some troops. The CV Lexington was nearby and was ordered to say hello - KB was too far away to intercept.
Air strikes claimed 3 ships sunk (1 PG, 1 MSW and 1 AK) and damaged an AP. The Lex was then ordered south away from Midway before the KB could show up.
Banana proved to be good at intercepting my TFs with his surface forces and his air forces did some damage as well.
Allied Day 2 Losses:
BC Repulse - only real loss
1 TK, 1 ML, 2 AK and 1 MSW were also sunk.
IJN Losses:
3 MSW, 1 PC, 1 PG, 1 AK, 2 DD, 2 AP
Not a bad turn except for the loss of the Repulse. At this point I thought I was doing good - although I was disappointed with the performance of the RN at Kuching. I thought the RN was trained to fight at night... but I guess not.
RE: Day & Night: Luskan vs Xargun
Day Three: The Agony
If I thought that Day 1 or 2 was bad boy was I wrong... by far the worst day so far...
IJN Air attacks have increased and Betties / Nells are hitting targets and blowing apart my ships all over the Philippine Area. Fleeing ships from Singapore run into a string of IJN subs in the Malacca Strait - a couple torpedoes find RN ships - warships of course...
The Lady Lex was ordered south but only at Cruise speed instead of Flank and she was caught by the KB and beat down. I believe the Lady Lex launched first and met a hug CAP - 60 or so Zeros. All allied planes were shot down. Then the pain came as bomb after bomb after torpedo slammed into the Lex and other ships - not a good day for the US Navy.
Allied Air Strikes did manage to hit the CVE Taiyo with a bomb, causing some damage and fires.
Allied Day 3 Losses:
CV Lexington - lost with all planes
CA Chicago - escorted Lady Lex
CA Astoria - escorting Lady Lex
6 DDs
2 AK
IJN Losses:
CL Sendai - some retribution for the Repulse
2 AP, 1 PC, 1 MSW
If I thought that Day 1 or 2 was bad boy was I wrong... by far the worst day so far...
IJN Air attacks have increased and Betties / Nells are hitting targets and blowing apart my ships all over the Philippine Area. Fleeing ships from Singapore run into a string of IJN subs in the Malacca Strait - a couple torpedoes find RN ships - warships of course...
The Lady Lex was ordered south but only at Cruise speed instead of Flank and she was caught by the KB and beat down. I believe the Lady Lex launched first and met a hug CAP - 60 or so Zeros. All allied planes were shot down. Then the pain came as bomb after bomb after torpedo slammed into the Lex and other ships - not a good day for the US Navy.
Allied Air Strikes did manage to hit the CVE Taiyo with a bomb, causing some damage and fires.
Allied Day 3 Losses:
CV Lexington - lost with all planes
CA Chicago - escorted Lady Lex
CA Astoria - escorting Lady Lex
6 DDs
2 AK
IJN Losses:
CL Sendai - some retribution for the Repulse
2 AP, 1 PC, 1 MSW
RE: Day & Night: Luskan vs Xargun
ORIGINAL: Mike Solli
Now this should be interesting. Nothing better than a couple of the old farts duking it out. [:D]
Is Luskan going to be allowed here? If not, will he have an AAR?
Looking forward to this one.
Either way - up to him.
Xargun
RE: Day & Night: Luskan vs Xargun
Day Four: More Pain and Agony
PoW & Danae fled east last turn and turned around and headed back to Singapore for repairs. They ran right into an IJN CV TF near Kuching. It was night time and one of the CVs (CVE Taiyo) was aflame. I thought I would be able to hammer them from a distance, but no. The IJN DDs closed the distance and sunk both of my ships with Long Lance torps - neither RN ship got off a shot [:@]
CA Houston is fleeing east followed by a baby CV and at least 1 IJN CS - many float planes attack - but the bombs bounce off - as do most of the 250 kgers.
Other than that a slow day in the war at sea. The Banana continues to gobble up bases but nothing I can do about that.
Allied Day Four Losses:
BB Prince of Wales
CL Danae
3 DDs
1 AK
IJN Losses:
1 AP and 1 DD
PoW & Danae fled east last turn and turned around and headed back to Singapore for repairs. They ran right into an IJN CV TF near Kuching. It was night time and one of the CVs (CVE Taiyo) was aflame. I thought I would be able to hammer them from a distance, but no. The IJN DDs closed the distance and sunk both of my ships with Long Lance torps - neither RN ship got off a shot [:@]
CA Houston is fleeing east followed by a baby CV and at least 1 IJN CS - many float planes attack - but the bombs bounce off - as do most of the 250 kgers.
Other than that a slow day in the war at sea. The Banana continues to gobble up bases but nothing I can do about that.
Allied Day Four Losses:
BB Prince of Wales
CL Danae
3 DDs
1 AK
IJN Losses:
1 AP and 1 DD
RE: Day & Night: Luskan vs Xargun
Lucky for you, tonight it's just me
Any ship can be a minesweeper..once !!
http://suspenseandmystery.blogspot.com/
Any ship can be a minesweeper..once !!
http://suspenseandmystery.blogspot.com/
RE: Day & Night: Luskan vs Xargun
Day Five & Six: The Blitzkrieg slows
Day 5
Finally the massive obliteration of my sea forces has slowed down. 2 AKs are damaged by air attacks and the CA Houston shrugs off more bombs as well.
Day 6
More air attacks damage 2 more AKs and a TK and the DD Vampire finally succumbs to flooding and sinks.
The CA Houston is hit with multiple torpedoes from Kates from a baby CV. It is not known if she will escape now.
Allied Losses:
1 DD
IJN Losses:
2 DD, 1 PC, 1 AP
Most of the IJN losses have been ships damaged in the first two days of the war - a lot have been from the attack at Midway.
Day 5
Finally the massive obliteration of my sea forces has slowed down. 2 AKs are damaged by air attacks and the CA Houston shrugs off more bombs as well.
Day 6
More air attacks damage 2 more AKs and a TK and the DD Vampire finally succumbs to flooding and sinks.
The CA Houston is hit with multiple torpedoes from Kates from a baby CV. It is not known if she will escape now.
Allied Losses:
1 DD
IJN Losses:
2 DD, 1 PC, 1 AP
Most of the IJN losses have been ships damaged in the first two days of the war - a lot have been from the attack at Midway.
RE: Day & Night: Luskan vs Xargun
Day 7: More Losses
CA Houston sinks from flooding. An IJN sub off the coast of Hawaii puts 3 torpedoes in a US ASW DD and she explodes. Minor damage is reported on the IJN sub - I-25. Another ASW DD is also damage while hunting subs.
Allied Losses:
CA Houston - sunk in mid pacific - trying to escape
1 DD - sunk while hunting subs off the coast of Hawaii
IJN Losses:
None
CA Houston sinks from flooding. An IJN sub off the coast of Hawaii puts 3 torpedoes in a US ASW DD and she explodes. Minor damage is reported on the IJN sub - I-25. Another ASW DD is also damage while hunting subs.
Allied Losses:
CA Houston - sunk in mid pacific - trying to escape
1 DD - sunk while hunting subs off the coast of Hawaii
IJN Losses:
None
RE: Day & Night: Luskan vs Xargun
Ok - we are caught up to the game. We managed a bunch of turns over the weekend and I am waiting on Dec 14th turn. I thought I would post some Allied Perspectives...
First of all WOW... Banana hit me hard and everywhere at once. I finally have my surviving surface ships somewhere relatively safe and the damaged ones are either in port waiting on flooding repairs or limping towards safe harbors.
All of the ships in Pearl have been secured from flooding and now I have to decide what to do with them all. The KB is out to sea somewhere and I'm not sure if I want to risk sending the cripples back to the West Coast without knowing where she is - but then he only wanted to damage them - not sink them so I don't think he is anywhere near PH right now - at least my 50+ PBYs haven't spotted them.
I am finally getting a handle on the shipping mess from the SRA and most of the ships are either safe or sunk - with more being sunk than safe.
My ground units are getting mauled everywhere - although I still hold the landings in Malaysa and Rabaul. The Banana is gobbling up the Solomons and I fear he may push for Noumea and / or PM soon. I am looking through my inventories of men and supplies and I don't have anything free in the Oz area so there is nothing I can do until reinforcements arrive from the states - a good 4 weeks or so by ship.
I am planning some counter attacks but not sure which to do until I see where his CVs show up.
I will post more when the turn arrives.
Xargun
First of all WOW... Banana hit me hard and everywhere at once. I finally have my surviving surface ships somewhere relatively safe and the damaged ones are either in port waiting on flooding repairs or limping towards safe harbors.
All of the ships in Pearl have been secured from flooding and now I have to decide what to do with them all. The KB is out to sea somewhere and I'm not sure if I want to risk sending the cripples back to the West Coast without knowing where she is - but then he only wanted to damage them - not sink them so I don't think he is anywhere near PH right now - at least my 50+ PBYs haven't spotted them.
I am finally getting a handle on the shipping mess from the SRA and most of the ships are either safe or sunk - with more being sunk than safe.
My ground units are getting mauled everywhere - although I still hold the landings in Malaysa and Rabaul. The Banana is gobbling up the Solomons and I fear he may push for Noumea and / or PM soon. I am looking through my inventories of men and supplies and I don't have anything free in the Oz area so there is nothing I can do until reinforcements arrive from the states - a good 4 weeks or so by ship.
I am planning some counter attacks but not sure which to do until I see where his CVs show up.
I will post more when the turn arrives.
Xargun
-
Oliver Heindorf
- Posts: 1911
- Joined: Wed May 01, 2002 2:49 am
- Location: Hamburg/Deutschland
RE: Day & Night: Luskan vs Xargun
hehe this will be intresting [;)]
RE: Day & Night: Luskan vs Xargun
Dec 14th
A rather slow day overall. Air strikes from both sides rule the day - allied air strikes ineffective... Japanese strikes claim more hits on AKs and sink 2.
A IJN CVL chasing merchies fleeing east in the mid pacific claim multiple hits with bombs and torpedoes. Even the float planes from an IJN CS are joining in.
LR Bombers from Bangkok sunk 2 AKs near Rangoon - 1 that just arrived and one limping back to Rangoon with IJN sub damaged. This is the first incursion into Burma airspace by Japanese aircraft. Surprisingly IJA forces are just now moving into Burma - which has allowed most of the southern forces to escape.
In a spectactular battle 2 Allied AKs took on 3 damaged IJN warships: 2 IJN PGs and a DD. In the brief battle, 2 of the IJN ships were hit by gunfire from the AKs and both AKs took 1 hit from return fire and 1 AK took a torpedo hit.
Allied Losses:
2 AKs
IJN Losses:
1 DD - sunk from previous damage
A rather slow day overall. Air strikes from both sides rule the day - allied air strikes ineffective... Japanese strikes claim more hits on AKs and sink 2.
A IJN CVL chasing merchies fleeing east in the mid pacific claim multiple hits with bombs and torpedoes. Even the float planes from an IJN CS are joining in.
LR Bombers from Bangkok sunk 2 AKs near Rangoon - 1 that just arrived and one limping back to Rangoon with IJN sub damaged. This is the first incursion into Burma airspace by Japanese aircraft. Surprisingly IJA forces are just now moving into Burma - which has allowed most of the southern forces to escape.
In a spectactular battle 2 Allied AKs took on 3 damaged IJN warships: 2 IJN PGs and a DD. In the brief battle, 2 of the IJN ships were hit by gunfire from the AKs and both AKs took 1 hit from return fire and 1 AK took a torpedo hit.
Allied Losses:
2 AKs
IJN Losses:
1 DD - sunk from previous damage
-
Capt. Harlock
- Posts: 5379
- Joined: Sat Sep 15, 2001 8:00 am
- Location: Los Angeles
- Contact:
RE: Day & Night: Luskan vs Xargun
Wow -- I am deeply impressed that you guys managed so many turns in such a short time. (I assume you're using 1-day turns?) Luskan has perfected his opening moves, and seems to have used up all his bad luck against Raver. My advice to anyone who wants to play him is to demand an alternate opening with Japanese surprise bonuses off.
Civil war? What does that mean? Is there any foreign war? Isn't every war fought between men, between brothers?
--Victor Hugo
--Victor Hugo
RE: Day & Night: Luskan vs Xargun
ORIGINAL: Capt. Harlock
Wow -- I am deeply impressed that you guys managed so many turns in such a short time. (I assume you're using 1-day turns?) Luskan has perfected his opening moves, and seems to have used up all his bad luck against Raver. My advice to anyone who wants to play him is to demand an alternate opening with Japanese surprise bonuses off.
Naaahh... When I play Japan (and I usually do) I have the surprise on so I wouldn't deny someone else that bonus. I'll just have to out think him
Xargun
RE: Day & Night: Luskan vs Xargun
Mate I feel your pain. Luskan loves to set bait traps so if a target looks tempting then think twice. The early grab of the Solomans is a precurser for an attack on Noumea and even NZ.
Never argue with an idiot, he will only drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
RE: Day & Night: Luskan vs Xargun
ORIGINAL: Raverdave
Mate I feel your pain. Luskan loves to set bait traps so if a target looks tempting then think twice. The early grab of the Solomans is a precurser for an attack on Noumea and even NZ.
NZ would be hard - but Noumea is a walk over. I have nothing I could possibly 'buy' out from Oz that would make him stop there.. Oh well.. let him have it and then bomb it flat
Xargun
RE: Day & Night: Luskan vs Xargun
Fiji is nice this time of year.
With dancing Bananas and Storm Troopers who needs BBs?
RE: Day & Night: Luskan vs Xargun
Dec 15th & 16th
Dec 15th:
Another slow day with the Banana landing troops all over and grabbing bases - at this pace he will own most of the SRA by the end of December - weeks ahead of schedule.
1 bright spot on the turn was my first sub intercept. A US sub surfaced and attacked the IJN AP Hakototsu Maru NE of Amboina. The sub landed 1 torpedo hit (and it actually exploded [:D] ), as well as 7 HMG hits (50 cal) and 4 hits from the main gun. The IJN AP limped away but she took a beating.
Dec 16th:
My PTs in the Philippines finally attacked a landing zone and ran into an IJN screening force. Luckily only 1 PT was sunk, but no other hits were scored by either side. I need to check the PTs and see if they have torpedoes left and if not - its time to try to try to escape with them.
Allied Losses:
1 DD, 1 PT and 4 AKs sunk
2 AKs damaged
IJN Losses:
1 PC & 1 PG sunk - both from previous damage
3 AKs & 2 APs damaged
Either I have missed the spotting of several IJA Divisions at land battles, although he seems to have a lot of units in NE Luzon that I haven't encountered yet so maybe there are a few divisions there, or there are a few units missing. I am concerned that Luskan has then on a boat heading somewhere important. The only places left that he would need a Division would be Palembang, Batavia, Soerbaja, OZ, PM, or Auckland.
He would need air cover to try the last 3 and I don't think there has been quite enough time for the KB to refuel and get to any of them yet. But it would not surprise me to see troop ships off Noumea, Auckland or PM in the next week or two.
Noumea is a push over right now - I don't have the PPs or transports to get anything worthwhile there - at least not anything that would do more than slow him a day.
Auckland is in decent shape - they have several Bdes there and its far from any other Japanese base - I don't think he will try it - at least not yet.. He would need to take Noumea (and surrounding islands) before heading further south or I would sit right on his SLOC. But if Noumea falls then Auckland would be in danger - provided he wants to bring 2-3 divisions that far south.
PM... hmm.. what can I say about PM... Not much. Its very exposed right now and he could easily land troops there - but I think he'll come overland - its much safer and he already has troops landing at Buna. I expect a division or more coming overland in a couple weeks. Depends on what he brings will decide whether I can hold it or not.
Not much for me to do for the next month or so as my PPs build up and new men and equipment arrive.
Xargun
Dec 15th:
Another slow day with the Banana landing troops all over and grabbing bases - at this pace he will own most of the SRA by the end of December - weeks ahead of schedule.
1 bright spot on the turn was my first sub intercept. A US sub surfaced and attacked the IJN AP Hakototsu Maru NE of Amboina. The sub landed 1 torpedo hit (and it actually exploded [:D] ), as well as 7 HMG hits (50 cal) and 4 hits from the main gun. The IJN AP limped away but she took a beating.
Dec 16th:
My PTs in the Philippines finally attacked a landing zone and ran into an IJN screening force. Luckily only 1 PT was sunk, but no other hits were scored by either side. I need to check the PTs and see if they have torpedoes left and if not - its time to try to try to escape with them.
Allied Losses:
1 DD, 1 PT and 4 AKs sunk
2 AKs damaged
IJN Losses:
1 PC & 1 PG sunk - both from previous damage
3 AKs & 2 APs damaged
Either I have missed the spotting of several IJA Divisions at land battles, although he seems to have a lot of units in NE Luzon that I haven't encountered yet so maybe there are a few divisions there, or there are a few units missing. I am concerned that Luskan has then on a boat heading somewhere important. The only places left that he would need a Division would be Palembang, Batavia, Soerbaja, OZ, PM, or Auckland.
He would need air cover to try the last 3 and I don't think there has been quite enough time for the KB to refuel and get to any of them yet. But it would not surprise me to see troop ships off Noumea, Auckland or PM in the next week or two.
Noumea is a push over right now - I don't have the PPs or transports to get anything worthwhile there - at least not anything that would do more than slow him a day.
Auckland is in decent shape - they have several Bdes there and its far from any other Japanese base - I don't think he will try it - at least not yet.. He would need to take Noumea (and surrounding islands) before heading further south or I would sit right on his SLOC. But if Noumea falls then Auckland would be in danger - provided he wants to bring 2-3 divisions that far south.
PM... hmm.. what can I say about PM... Not much. Its very exposed right now and he could easily land troops there - but I think he'll come overland - its much safer and he already has troops landing at Buna. I expect a division or more coming overland in a couple weeks. Depends on what he brings will decide whether I can hold it or not.
Not much for me to do for the next month or so as my PPs build up and new men and equipment arrive.
Xargun
RE: Day & Night: Luskan vs Xargun
Not much to report that is out of the ordinary - I take a few little bases, and i take a few more.
We're still in the "honeymoon" period of the game where everything is new and shiny.
Also I suspect that Xargun is lying about Auckland - those NZ brigades are PP cost effective defence units to "buy" and ship to Noumea etc. etc. Auckland then gets several new bdes (belonging to southwest pac so you don't have to spend pp on them) as well. The trick is where the marines from the west coast end up.
We're still in the "honeymoon" period of the game where everything is new and shiny.
Also I suspect that Xargun is lying about Auckland - those NZ brigades are PP cost effective defence units to "buy" and ship to Noumea etc. etc. Auckland then gets several new bdes (belonging to southwest pac so you don't have to spend pp on them) as well. The trick is where the marines from the west coast end up.
With dancing Bananas and Storm Troopers who needs BBs?
RE: Day & Night: Luskan vs Xargun
ORIGINAL: Luskan
Also I suspect that Xargun is lying about Auckland - those NZ brigades are PP cost effective defence units to "buy" and ship to Noumea etc. etc. Auckland then gets several new bdes (belonging to southwest pac so you don't have to spend pp on them) as well. The trick is where the marines from the west coast end up.
Those units are decently 'priced' but only if you have PPs to spend on them... I totally forgot about them and spent my wad on other things. Oh well.. PPs build back up pretty quick.
As for the Bdes that show up in Auckland that are SW pac - those are nice - providing they show up in a timely manner - and with variable arrivals that could be bad timing for me.
Xargun