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RE: wneumann vs Jolly Pillager- the Allied perspective

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ORIGINAL: wneumann

A couple of questions for anyone reading... answers, ideas, or suggestions welcome.

1) China: I am getting some pressure there from the Japanese, my opponent is trying to push ahead faster than I can retreat Chinese LCU from exposed "salients" - what he is doing largely resembles "infiltration tactics", I am constantly retreating Chinese units to avoid their being totally bypassed. Very difficult to form any kind of coherent front line.

Also.. Do the Chinese Guerilla Corps have any special capabilities or characteristics, and if so, how can they be best used?
Yes: you can split them into three parts and move them deep behind enemy lines. This gives you a lot of free intel (ground units spot all units in adjacent hexes), and your opponent is forced to hunt them down with Inf LCUs. Basically, what he's doing to you, you should be doing to him!

2) Although I have no plans to engage the KB (unless I am forced to, and it would take quite a bit to force me), what would be the best course of action (besides not to) to engage the KB? I guess what I'm looking for here is related to situations where the KB would be most vulnerable, timing, best TF formations (for my own CV TF and also Japanese TF configurations where an attack would have the best possibility of success), supply and logistics requirements for the KB to operate, etc.

Several considerations I see with regard to the KB include
a) The Zero combat bonus runs out in May 42, until then most if not all Allied fighters are relatively useless vs Zeros.
b) A possible method of dealing with the KB would be attacking its "supply train" if the opportunity to do so exists without undue risk.
c) My only option at this point in the game (1/42) is to not engage the KB head on.

3) Is there anything that can be done with US CV's at this point (1/42)?

I've seen all kinds of strings about the KB (including the infamous "death star" formation). I just seems that all I can do before late '43 is "dodging" the KB. Odds are sooner or later the KB will run into my (U.S.) CV's (accidently or otherwise) and they will have to fight. Just looking for the best terms under which I'd be able to and if possible plan accordingly.
Well, the Pacific is large... if KB is somewhere - and you can confirm its presence... strike somewhere else.

In general, CV's in WitP are somewhat like a queen on a chessboard (at least in one respect) - lose the queen and you're in deep trouble (especially if your opponent still has his queen).

Have a look at this thread:

"Wounding KB" ...with LBA in 1942.
tm.asp?m=980486

You can find more threads like this here:
tm.asp?m=1274014

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One more thing... and I'm going to be blunt:
What your opponent is doing at Singapore and Bataan is INSANE! He shock attacked his troops to death. Those divisons are completely wrecked, and he's never going to win with these units - they have only a couple of infantry squads left!

Definitely think about a counter-attack. Adjusted Japanese AV = 50 at Bataan, and 87 at Singapore?!? That's incredible low.

EDIT: If you're looking for a very well played Chinese campaign have a look at ctangus' AAR:
tm.asp?m=1112330
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VSWG. Appreciate the input. Thanks. [:)]

I can see your point on Singapore and Bataan - especially Singapore. Japanese shock attacks are continuing vs Singapore, see the AAR in my next post.

Japanese LCU's at Singapore and Bataan quite possibly have run themselves into the ground. This being true... what are we looking at.

1) Quite likely it will be a considerable period of time before the Japanese take Singapore and Bataan (of course, provided no glaring mistakes on my part).

2) In order for the Japanese to effectively continue attacking at Singapore or Bataan (and make any significant progress in either location), he will have to do one or both of the following -
a) bring in fresh LCU's, possibly one or more fresh division(s) and new supporting units. These reinforcements would be at
the expense of operations planned or in progress elsewhere (Burma, the DEI, New Guinea, South Pacific, possibly China
as well).
b) rebuild the LCU's already engaged at Singapore and Bataan. This action is required in any event before these LCU's are
usable here or in other operations.

3) Having to rebuild the Japanese LCU's engaged at Singapore and Bataan - especially if they have taken heavy losses.
a) Time... These units will be unavailable in the time required to rebuild them.
b) A significant drain on the Japanese replacement pools.
c) Reduced Japanese capabilities in regard to invasions - fewer operations, or planned operations will continue but at
reduced combat strength.

4) I can see a point behind an Allied counterattack. The "pro" side is the possibility of inflicting more losses on the Japanese. On the other hand, this would definately expend supply - the Allied supply situation is good at both Singapore and Bataan, but any large expenditures of supply at either location are pretty much un-replaceable.

5) Point #4 above being the overriding consideration... continuing a passive defense of both Singapore and Bataan appears to be the best option.



On to the KB and my own CV's...

At this point, I am still collecting together my CV's and escorting warships for grouping into suitable Air Combat TF. Having four CV's (all operational), it looks like I can put together two good Air Combat TF's given the available escorts. The considerations I can see at this time include -

1) I have enough suitable CA, CL, and DD escorts available where I can create two TF with approx 15-20 escorts in each that would provide adequate AA and ASW coverage. Two CV's would be placed in each TF.

2) One TF is already formed and operating out of Pearl Harbor/U.S. west coast. The second TF is in process of forming at Panama City (both CV's are at Panama City awaiting the arrival of escorts).

3) I have one CV (I believe the Lexington) with a fighter group equipped with F2A's - would be nice to see this fighter group updated to F4F-3 before putting the Lex into harm's way.

4) Naval search air patrol coverage is operating along the line Dutch Harbor - Midway - Johnston - Palmyra and can detect any Japanese sea movement along this line and points eastward. West of that line, I'm "whistling in the dark".

5) The loss of Canton Is is going to be a problem in the longer term. Japanese LBA are already operating from Baker Is and expected to soon be operating from Canton as well. This has implications in how well and quickly I can safely deploy carriers between the Central and South Pacific theaters. I am considering Panama City as a central location to base Air Combat TF not actively involved in operations (though I can see some disadvantages with this).


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Summary of Operations - 1/13/42

More action from Singapore...

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Ground combat at Singapore

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 108555 troops, 477 guns, 108 vehicles, Assault Value = 2068
5th, 18th & Guards (2nd) Infantry Divisions, 21st Mixed Brigade, 4 Mixed Rgt, Sasebo 8 SNLF, 12 & 28 NLF, 5 Engineer Bn, 4 & 28 Engineer Rgts; 2, 6 &14 Tank Rgts; 3 & 18 Heavy FA Rgts; 3, 5 & 14 Mortar Bns, 3 Mtn Gun Rgt, 124 IJNAF Base Force

Defending force 70901 troops, 540 guns, 16 vehicles, Assault Value = 845
22nd & 27th Australian Brigades AIF; 1st & 2nd Malaya Brigades; 6th, 8th, 12th, 15th & 28th Indian Brigades, SSVF Brigade, Singapore Fortress; 1 & 2 HAA Rgts; 3 LAA Rgt; 1 & 2 Indian LAA Rgts; 109, 111, 112 & 113 RAF Base Force, MAF Aviation, 101 & 109 RN Base Force

Japanese max assault: 208 - adjusted assault: 78
Allied max defense: 890 - adjusted defense: 2428
Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 5)

Japanese ground losses:
809 casualties reported
Guns lost 13
Vehicles lost 19

Allied ground losses:
328 casualties reported
Guns lost 11

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DEI: Japanese landed and captured Waingapu. Japanese bombardment TF's hit Batavia, Soerbaja, and Darwin.

No further Japanese operations detected in New Guinea or South Pacific.

Situation in China is beginning to stabilize for the moment.

Phillipines: Bombardment attack on Bataan. Japanese assault on Cagayan expected shortly - defense of Cagayan includes two Reserve divisions and elements of 5th USAAF Base Force.
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Summary of Allied Evacuation to Australia from Philippines, DEI, and Malaya - December, 1941 (to 1/13/42)

Cargo and Auxiliary Ships arriving in Australia (includes all sizes and nationalities): 154 AK, 3 AR, 34 TK, 6 AS, 27 AP, 1 AV, 7 AVD, 5 AO, 1 AD, 1 AE, 1 AGP, 3 DM, 5 ML, 19 MSW


Warships arriving in Australia:

1) US Navy - CA Houston, CL Boise & Marblehead, 13 DD (2 light damage), 5 PG/PC, 6 PT, 17 SS
2) British and CW - BB Prince of Wales; BC Repulse; CL Danae, Durban, & Dragon; 4 DD; 5 PG/PC; 3 MTB
3) Dutch - CL Sumatra (light damage), Java, De Ruyter, Tromp; 7 DD; 8 PG/PC; 7 PT; 12 SS (some with damage); 2 SC; 6 LCVP

Aircraft:

US – Patrol & Scout Floatplane squadrons assigned to South Pacific, fighter & bombing squadrons to SW Pacific

5 Bomb Squadrons (14th, 28th,30th, 93rd) 38 B-17D & E total
2 Patrol Squadrons (VP101 & 102) 24 PBY total
1 Scout Floatplane Squadron (VJ10) 6 OS2U-3
4 Fighter Squadrons (3rd, 17th, 20th, 21st) 73 P-40B & E total

British and CW – all remain assigned to SE Asia, will remain in Perth for transport to India

2 Fighter Squadrons (243 & 453 RAF) 19 Buffalo I total
1 Torpedo Squadron (100 RAF) 11 Vildebeest

Dutch – Patrol & torpedo aircraft assigned to South Pacific, all others to SW Pacific

11 Patrol Squadrons 38 Do-24 & PBY total
2 Torpedo Squadrons 10 G-IVa total
2 Transport Squadrons 19 aircraft total
10 Bomb Squadrons 62 Martin 139 total
5 Recon Squadrons 45 aircraft total
5 Fighter Squadrons 37 aircraft total

Ground Units: all units full strength unless otherwise indicated

US -

5th (80% strength) and 20th USAAF Base Force – assigned to SW Pacific
1 Marine AA Battalion – assigned to South Pacific

British and CW – unless otherwise indicated, all remain assigned to SE Asia and will remain in Perth for transport to India

106 (elements) and 107 RN Base Force
Lark Force battalion – evac from Rabaul, remains assigned to ANZAC
22nd & 27th Australian Brigades AIF (small elements of each) – assignment to be determined once units are rebuilt

Dutch -

Air support units (1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th, 16th, 17th, 18th, 19th, 20th, 21st, 22nd NEIAF Base Units and 2 NEIAF Aviation) – all assigned to SW Pacific

Naval Base Units (2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 7th) all assigned to South Pacific
Flak battalions (A-I-Ld, A-II-Ld, A-III-Ld) – all assigned to SW Pacific

Other assets evacuated:
Supply pts – 21,740
Fuel pts – 129,361 (4,800 additional destroyed by Jap attack)
Oil pts – 16,800 (12,000 additional destroyed by Jap attack)

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Summary of Operations - 1/14/42

More action at Singapore - Japanese attackers reinforced with one additional division (2nd) plus 10 Mountain Arty Rgt. AAR as follows.

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Ground combat at Singapore

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 121974 troops, 477 guns, 154 vehicles, Assault Value = 2059
2nd, 5th, 18th & Guards (2nd) Infantry Divisions, 21st Mixed Brigade, 4 Mixed Rgt, Sasebo 8 SNLF, 12 & 28 NLF,
5 Engineer Bn, 4 & 28 Engineer Rgts; 2, 6 &14 Tank Rgts; 3 & 18 Heavy FA Rgts; 3, 5 & 14 Mortar Bns, 3 & 10 Mtn Gun Rgts, 124 IJNAF Base Force

Defending force 70821 troops, 546 guns, 15 vehicles, Assault Value = 849
22nd & 27th Australian Brigades AIF; 1st & 2nd Malaya Brigades; 6th, 8th, 12th, 15th & 28th Indian Brigades, SSVF Brigade, Singapore Fortress; 1 & 2 HAA Rgts; 3 LAA Rgt; 1 & 2 Indian LAA Rgts; 109, 111, 112 & 113 RAF Base Force, MAF Aviation, 101 & 109 RN Base Force

Japanese max assault: 1953 - adjusted assault: 1052
Allied max defense: 901 - adjusted defense: 2515
Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 5)

Japanese ground losses:
2734 casualties reported
Guns lost 28
Vehicles lost 15

Allied ground losses:
4500 casualties reported
Guns lost 55
Vehicles lost 2

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DEI: Japanese shore bombardment TF hit Bali - probably next objective in advance on Java from the east.

Small Japanese TF with CVL Zuiho sighted off Broome, a second TF (appears to be surface combat) in the same area. Both moving on a westward heading - either moving along the northwest coast of Australia or into the open sea south of Java in search of Allied shipping. Some Allied transport TF moving to Australia from India have been stopped mid-sea pending determination of where the Japanese TF are going.

Japanese landing at Lae. AAR follows. NGVR Battalion is counterattacking (deliberate attack) the Japanese landing force as this appears to be all that is coming ashore (small Japanese landing TF, no shore bombardment or other ships known to be in the area).

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Ground combat at Lae

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1106 troops, 4 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 33
NGVR Bn
Defending force 9180 troops, 30 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 40
14 Base Force, 37 Construction Bn

Allied ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

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Burma: One Japanese LCU (probably 55th Division) has reached Moulmein - probably will attack and capture next turn.

Phillipines: Japanese bombardments at Bataan, Clark, and Cagayan.

Little activity elsewhere other than Submarine vs ASW actions.
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Summary of Operations - 1/15/42

Singapore: Ground combat consisted of Japanese bombardment attack - no change in enemy LCU from last turn.

Current status inside Singapore - 10K supply points still on hand. With the exception of SSVF Brigade, all front-line infantry units still in good shape (aside from moderate combat losses given the level of activity). Disruption levels < 10 and fatigue levels < 10-12 in all units. Experience levels in the front-line infantry LCU's now in the 65-70 range across all units. With any luck, we might be able to hold through through the historical end (15 Feb).

Cadres of all five Indian and both Australian infantry brigades have been evacuated by submarine from Singapore for rebuilding in rear areas later on. Subs will return to Singapore carrying supply points and then take off cadres for other LCU (base units, Malayan brigades, etc).

If VSWG's earlier remarks are true, Singapore has to date inflicted a significant amount of attrition on Japanese land forces - major damage to three (possibly soon to be four) divisions, three NLF, two other infantry LCU; as well as smaller losses to three combat engineer and 10 artillery LCU.

Japanese LCU now engaged at Singapore remain unavailable for Japanese operations elsewhere (disrupting their overall timetable). These LCU will have to absorb considerable replacements (and an additional time delay) to rebuld, and the re-built LCU will be weaker in terms of combat efficiency (experience level) than what they were originally.

Quite possibly, Singapore could have a long-term impact on the course of this PBEM.


Burma: Moulmein has been captured by the Japanese 33rd Division (correction from last post).

Japanese TF with CVL Zuiho is moving along the NW coast of Australia, possibly towards Perth.

Otherwise, not much going on.
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Summary of Operations - 1/16/42

Singapore: Japanese attackers reinforced by 9th NLF and 15th Naval Gd. AAR follows.

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Ground combat at Singapore

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 103617 troops, 456 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2026
2nd, 5th, 18th & Guards (2nd) Infantry Divisions, 21st Mixed Brigade, 4 Mixed Rgt,
Sasebo 8 SNLF; 9, 12 & 28 NLF, 5 Engineer Bn, 4 & 28 Engineer Rgts;
2, 6 &14 Tank Rgts; 3 & 18 Heavy FA Rgts; 3, 5 & 14 Mortar Bns, 15 Naval Gd,
3 & 10 Mtn Gun Rgts, 124 IJNAF Base Force

Defending force 65483 troops, 470 guns, 12 vehicles, Assault Value = 792
22nd & 27th Australian Brigades AIF; 1st & 2nd Malaya Brigades; 6th, 8th, 12th, 15th & 28th Indian Brigades, SSVF Brigade, Singapore Fortress; 1 & 2 HAA Rgts; 3 LAA Rgt; 1 & 2 Indian LAA Rgts; 109, 111, 112 & 113 RAF Base Force, MAF Aviation, 101 & 109 RN Base Force

Japanese max assault: 92 - adjusted assault: 22
Allied max defense: 829 - adjusted defense: 2092
Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 5)

Japanese ground losses:
684 casualties reported
Guns lost 15

Allied ground losses:
259 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

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Phillipines - Japanese LCU bombarment attacks at Bataan and Clark. Three U.S. submarines loaded elements of 4th Marines at Bataan for evacuation to Australia, other U.S. submarines are headed to Bataan to carry out evac operations. Air attack on Cagayan.

South Pacific: Transport TF carrying garrison troops (base force) to Norfolk Is intercepted by a small Japanese surface combat TF (one CL, 4 DD) - one AK sunk, remainder will unload troops on Norfolk. A surface combat TF with Australian & NZ CA and CL is headed for Norfolk to cover remaining transport operations there.

Japanese 4th NLF landed at and captured Buin.

Australia: Japanese naval and air bombardments at Darwin - light damage.

DEI: No activity

Eastern Pacific: Preparations underway to reinforce Palmyra. Otherwise no activity.
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For anyone passing through here, a question....

Noticed that some AK classes can be converted to AR (among other things). I am considering converting a small number (not more than several, probably) to AR and concentrate them together in one port on the U.S. west coast (San Francisco is what I specifically have in mind) to maximize shipyard repair capacity there. At this point, I can probably afford to convert 2 or 3 AK for this purpose.

a) Is this worthwhile?
b) If so, what is the effect on ship repair/upgrade?
c) Is there a maximum limit beyond which doing this does not yield any useful results?
d) How long and at what cost would a conversion take? I'm planning to do all this in San Francisco.

Any advice is gracefully appreciated.
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Look here, section II.B. [:)]

tm.asp?m=1274014

And here's the section in the manual:
Certain ships may upgrade by clicking on a button on the Ship Information Screen that brings up
a list of possible conversions. The ship must be in Osaka (for the Japanese) or San Francisco (for
the Americans) to have this button available. The upgrade will take 180 days (plus some for
damage) added to the delay for the ship being converted. The ship types that can convert are:
  • Large AK to AE, AR, AS, AV or MLE
  • Allied only – Large AK to AD
  • Allied only – PG or LST to AGP
Note that a „large AK“ is an AK with a Capacity of 5000 or greater.

The option to upgrade will appear in the Ship Information Display at the bottom left of the screen,
if the ship meets the above requirements.

I would convert at least a dozen ships to AR. They are invaluable in ports near the front line to help controll FLT damage of damaged ships as well.
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Summary of Operations 1/17- 1/18/42

Thanks VSWG. I'm looking at starting conversion of 2-3 AK to AR immediately, gradually do more conversions later. I also have three AR that reached Australia that can aid in repair/refit activity there (Sydney or more likely Melbourne).

Unfortunately, I had two additional (Dutch) AR that were intercepted and sunk by a Japanese surface TF (two CA, four DD's) while trying to reach Perth from the DEI. The Japanese TF that sunk them is heading toward Perth to see what it can find there. When they reach Perth it will find something there (that won't be to its liking).

As long as we are on Australia...

I am beginning ops to garrison and build up bases moving eastward from Australia. One of the Dutch Naval base force LCU I evacuted from the DEI has landed at Norfolk Is along with a quantity of supply pts to start build-up there. Other Dutch naval base force LCU's are being transported to Auckland for deployment elsewhere in South Pacific. Some of the Dutch Do-24 recon squadrons are transferring from Australia to New Zealand enroute to deployment at various locations in South Pacific theater.

A large convoy (multiple transport TF) from the U.S. is leaving Panama City enroute to the South Pacific. Carried on board this convoy include - 2nd Marine Div, one U.S. RCT, a Marine Para LCU, several smaller LCU, a number of air units, supply and fuel points. A separate transport TF carrying supply and a second U.S. RCT is leaving Panama City enroute to Palmyra.

Escorts to this convoy include a surface combat TF (3 BB plus CL) and a carrier TF (Enterprise and Saratoga) in addition to ASW escorts within the transport TF's.

Singapore: AAR is as follows. Supply on hand in Singapore down to around 9K - supply will probably be the factor dictating how much longer Singapore will hold out.

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Ground combat at Singapore 1/18/42

Japanese Bombardment attack

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Ground combat at Singapore 1/19/42

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 124297 troops, 475 guns, 157 vehicles, Assault Value = 2051
2nd, 5th, 18th & Guards (2nd) Infantry Divisions, 21st Mixed Brigade, 4 Mixed Rgt, Sasebo 8 SNLF; 9, 12 & 28 NLF, 5 Engineer Bn, 4 & 28 Engineer Rgts; 2, 6 &14 Tank Rgts; 3 & 18 Heavy FA Rgts; 3, 5 & 14 Mortar Bns, 15 Naval Gd,
3 & 10 Mtn Gun Rgts, 124 IJNAF Base Force

Defending force 66310 troops, 497 guns, 13 vehicles, Assault Value = 800
22nd & 27th Australian Brigades AIF; 1st & 2nd Malaya Brigades; 6th, 8th, 12th, 15th & 28th Indian Brigades, SSVF Brigade, Singapore Fortress; 1 & 2 HAA Rgts; 3 LAA Rgt; 1 & 2 Indian LAA Rgts; 109, 111, 112 & 113 RAF Base Force, MAF Aviation, 101 & 109 RN Base Force

Japanese max assault: 1946 - adjusted assault: 953
Allied max defense: 846 - adjusted defense: 2160
Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 5)

Japanese ground losses:
4086 casualties reported
Guns lost 42
Vehicles lost 4

Allied ground losses:
3061 casualties reported
Guns lost 49
Vehicles lost 2


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Philippines: No activity other than Bataan and Clark - AAR as follows. Cagayan and some islands in central Philippines still in Allied control.

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Ground combat at Bataan

Japanese Bombardment attack on both 1/18 and 1/19

Attacking force 52863 troops, 276 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1430
16th & 56th Infantry Divisions; 4, 7 & 8 Tank Rgts, 2 NLF, Yokosuka 1 SNLF

Defending force 71284 troops, 624 guns, 333 vehicles, Assault Value = 1278
11th, 21st, 31st, 41st & 71st Reserve Divisions; 2nd Constabulary Division, 31 US RCT,
45 & 57 PS RCTs, 26 PS Cavalry Rgt, 4 Marine Rgt, 192 & 194 Tank Bns, Provisional FA Group; 301 Provisional, 86 & 88 FA Rgts; Corregidor Fortress CD, 200 Cst AA Rgt, 14 PS Engineer Rgt, 803 EAB, 4 & 109 USAAF Base Force, 118 USN Base Force, 8 PAF Base Force

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Ground combat at Clark Field

Japanese Deliberate attack - 1/19

Attacking force 31608 troops, 75 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 361
65th Infantry Brigade, Kure 1st SNLF, Yokosuka 3rd SNLF, 32 Special Base Force, 21 Aviation Unit

Defending force 6820 troops, 23 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 205
51st & 91st Reserve Divisions

Japanese max assault: 383 - adjusted assault: 290
Allied max defense: 141 - adjusted defense: 7
Japanese assault odds: 41 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
171 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Allied ground losses:
323 casualties reported
Guns lost 10

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China: Japanese attacks in some sectors - front line is mostly stable. Some Chinese units still withdrawing from exposed salients in an orderly manner.

Burma: No detectable activity. Japanese 33rd Division still at Moulmein (in contact with one of the Burma Brigades facing it from the opposite side of a river hex NW of Moulmein). Chinese divisions are reaching Lashio in the north.

Eastern Pacific/U.S. West coast: All damaged BB from Pearl Harbor except one now reparing in San Francisco, damage on these all in the 40's or less. BB West Virginia (damage in the low 60's) remains at Pearl - intend to partially repair it at Pearl at least until some of the other BB complete repairs in the U.S. before moving it there to finish repairs.

Supply and fuel point transports (individual ships dispatched on a daily or so basis) are moving between the U.S. west coast and Pearl.

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Summary of Operations 1/19 - 1/20/42

Burma: Japanese starting their advance into southern Burma - AAR follows. This action occurred just NE of Moulmein. Whether this is only a probing attack or a full-fledged move into Burma depends on how many other Japanese LCU are in Southeast Asia and not engaged at Singapore.

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Ground combat at 30,33 – 1/20/42

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 21232 troops, 98 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 473
33rd Infantry Division
Defending force 3575 troops, 47 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 86
2nd Burma Brigade

Japanese max assault: 456 - adjusted assault: 91
Allied max defense: 82 - adjusted defense: 17
Japanese assault odds: 5 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
809 casualties reported
Guns lost 17

Allied ground losses:
74 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

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Singapore: Japanese ground and air bombardments of Singapore on both 1/19 and 1/20. No Japanese LCU reinforcements detected. Supply on hand in Singapore down to 7500. It appears that Singapore will hold out until the remaining supply points are depleted, with collapse occurring shortly afterward.

Question... Based on what has gone on so far here, any estimates on how long Singapore will last assuming events continue at their current pace?

Phillipines: Japanese ground and air bombardments continue at Bataan. Approx 11,000 supply on hand in Bataan, troops otherwise in good shape.

Clark Field is under Japanese control but fighting continues - AAR follows. Perhaps these guys are managing to keep Japanese reinforcements from entering Bataan.

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Ground combat at Clark Field

Japanese Deliberate attack - 1/19

Attacking force 31414 troops, 73 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 350
65th Infantry Brigade, Kure 1st SNLF, Yokosuka 3rd SNLF, 32 Special Base Force,
21 Aviation Unit
Defending force 6368 troops, 10 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 178
51st & 91st Reserve Divisions

Japanese max assault: 371 - adjusted assault: 158
Allied max defense: 114 - adjusted defense: 5
Japanese assault odds: 31 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
299 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Allied ground losses:
116 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

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Ground combat at Clark Field - 1/20

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 31447 troops, 70 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 352
65th Infantry Brigade, Kure 1st SNLF, Yokosuka 3rd SNLF, 32 Special Base Force, 21 Aviation Unit
Defending force 5951 troops, 6 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 157
51st & 91st Reserve Divisions

Japanese max assault: 375 - adjusted assault: 201
Allied max defense: 99 - adjusted defense: 5
Japanese assault odds: 40 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
163 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Allied ground losses:
475 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

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Australia: Japanese naval and air bombardments continue at Darwin. I have two Australian divisions arriving in NW Australia (south of Darwin).

South Pacific: Japanese TF consisting of CA Aoba, Kinugasa, Furutaka, Kako & 4 DD bombarded Pago Pago after sinking two ships (one MSW, one AK unloading supply) docked there. Shore batteries returned fire and scored multiple hits on two of the CA.

DEI - Japanese TF consisting of BB Nagato & Mutsu and CL Kitakami bombarded Tjilitjap, inflicting light damage.

China: Business as usual. No sweeping advances in either direction.
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Question... Based on what has gone on so far here, any estimates on how long Singapore will last assuming events continue at their current pace?

I'd estimate 3-4 weeks. However, I'm an allied fanboy, so I might be a little over-optimistic. [;)] Any chance of shipping more supply in? Or flying some in with either the Dutch transport planes or some nearby bombers?
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Summary of Operations 1/21 - 1/23/42

Eastern Pacific / U.S. West Coast:

Reinforcements have arrived at Palmyra. 1st USMC Defence LCU has disembarked at Palmyra along with a quantity of supply. A second transport convoy is enroute to Palmyra from Panama City with a US Army RCT and additional supply.

Japanese submarines have been detected in Seattle (I-23) and San Francisco (I-7). The I-23 was engaged by joint U.S. and Canadian ASW forces on 1/24 and confirmed sunk. The I-7 in San Francisco was attacked on 1/22 and 1/23 by U.S. aircraft and ASW forces - AAR reports a number of near misses on the I-7 with possible damage, but as of now it's still there.


South and SW Pacific: Establishment of a base on Norfolk Island with a Dutch Naval Base LCU is underway - this base will be employed mainly to base Catalina and Do-24 aircraft on naval search missions.

Australia: No Japanese activity except shore bombardment of Darwin by TF (BB Hyuga & Ise) on 1/23. Re-deployment of LCU, aircraft, and other assets evacuated from the Phillipines and DEI continue.

DEI: Japanese are advancing down eastern coast of Borneo - Tarakan and Samarinda have been taken by Japanese in the last few days, moves against Bali and Balikpapan are imminent. Japanese TF (BB Kongo & Haruna) bombarded Palembang on 1/24.

Singapore:

Japanese air and ground attacks continue - AAR follows. Japanese LCU reinforcements arriving at Singapore include 4th Infantry Division and a road construction battalion.

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Ground combat at Singapore

Japanese Bombardment attack 1/21

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Ground combat at Singapore

Japanese Shock attack 1/22

Attacking force 126292 troops, 490 guns, 157 vehicles, Assault Value = 2035
2nd, 4th, 5th, 18th & Guards (2nd) Infantry Divisions, 21st Mixed Brigade, 4 Mixed Rgt, Sasebo 8 SNLF; 9, 12 & 28 NLF,
5 Engineer Bn; 4, 15 & 28 Engineer Rgts; 2, 6 &14 Tank Rgts; 3 & 18 Heavy FA Rgts; 3, 5 & 14 Mortar Bns, 15 Naval Gd,
3 & 10 Mtn Gun Rgts, 124 IJNAF Base Force

Defending force 64402 troops, 471 guns, 12 vehicles, Assault Value = 721
22nd & 27th Australian Brigades AIF; 1st & 2nd Malaya Brigades; 6th, 8th, 12th, 15th & 28th Indian Brigades, SSVF Brigade, Singapore Fortress; 1 & 2 HAA Rgts; 3 LAA Rgt; 1 & 2 Indian LAA Rgts; 109, 111, 112 & 113 RAF Base Force, MAF Aviation, 101 & 109 RN Base Force

Japanese max assault: 1980 - adjusted assault: 1999
Allied max defense: 758 - adjusted defense: 872
Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 4)
Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 3

Japanese ground losses:
3576 casualties reported
Guns lost 35
Vehicles lost 8

Allied ground losses:
3549 casualties reported
Guns lost 140
Vehicles lost 3


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Ground combat at Singapore

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 29957 troops, 278 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2331
2nd, 4th ,5th, 18th & Guards (2nd) Infantry Divisions, 21st Mixed Brigade, 4 Mixed Rgt, Sasebo 8 SNLF; 9, 12 & 28 NLF,
5 Engineer Bn; 4, 15 & 28 Engineer Rgts; 2, 6 &14 Tank Rgts; 3 & 18 Heavy FA Rgts; 3, 5 & 14 Mortar Bns, 15 Naval Gd,
3 & 10 Mtn Gun Rgts, 124 IJNAF Base Force, 20 Road Construction Bn
Defending force 59914 troops, 335 guns, 13 vehicles, Assault Value = 618
22nd & 27th Australian Brigades AIF; 1st & 2nd Malaya Brigades; 6th, 8th, 12th, 15th & 28th Indian Brigades, SSVF Brigade, Singapore Fortress; 1 & 2 HAA Rgts; 3 LAA Rgt; 1 & 2 Indian LAA Rgts; 109, 111, 112 & 113 RAF Base Force, MAF Aviation, 101 & 109 RN Base Force

Japanese max assault: 584 - adjusted assault: 11
Allied max defense: 641 - adjusted defense: 1242
Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 4)

Japanese ground losses:
728 casualties reported
Guns lost 13

Allied ground losses:
682 casualties reported
Guns lost 15

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Burma: Japanese 33rd Division is continuing attacks NE of Moulmein. AAR follows.

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Ground combat at 30,33 (NE of Moulmein)

Japanese Shock attack - 1/23

Attacking force 21219 troops, 97 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 472
33rd Infantry Division
Defending force 3626 troops, 48 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 87
2nd Burma Brigade

Japanese max assault: 456 - adjusted assault: 46
Allied max defense: 83 - adjusted defense: 83
Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
609 casualties reported
Guns lost 9

Allied ground losses:
74 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

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Ground combat at 30,33

Japanese Bombardment attack - 1/21 and 1/22

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China: No significant activity.

Phillipines: AAR's follow.

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Ground combat at Bataan

Japanese Bombardment attacks 1/21 through 1/23

Attacking force 53198 troops, 282 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1450
16th, 48th & 56th Infantry Divisions; 4, 7 & 8 Tank Rgts, 2 NLF, Yokosuka 1 SNLF

Defending force 71127 troops, 631 guns, 337 vehicles, Assault Value = 1277
11th, 21st, 31st, 41st & 71st Reserve Divisions; 2nd Constabulary Division, 31 US RCT, 45 & 57 PS RCTs,
26 PS Cavalry Rgt, 4 Marine Rgt, 192 & 194 Tank Bns, Provisional FA Group; 301 Provisional, 86 & 88 FA Rgts;
Corregidor Fortress CD, 200 Cst AA Rgt, 14 PS Engineer Rgt, 803 EAB, 4 & 109 USAAF Base Force, 118 USN Base Force,
8 PAF Base Force

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Ground combat at Clark Field

Japanese Deliberate attack on 1/23

Attacking force 31506 troops, 65 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 349
65th Infantry Brigade, Kure 1st SNLF, Yokosuka 3rd SNLF, 32 Special Base Force,
21 Aviation Unit

Defending force 4977 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 101
51st & 91st Reserve Divisions (both eliminated in this combat)

Japanese max assault: 373 - adjusted assault: 344
Allied max defense: 56 - adjusted defense: 2
Japanese assault odds: 172 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
91 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Allied ground losses:
5282 casualties reported
Guns lost 11
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Ground combat at Cagayan

Japanese Bombardment attacks - 1/22 and 1/23

Attacking force 12029 troops, 35 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 234
56th Infantry Brigade, 1 & 31 NLF
Defending force 9127 troops, 94 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 279
101st & 102nd Reserve Divisions, 2 Philippine Rgt, 5 USAAF Base Force (elements)

Japanese ground losses:
22 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

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Summary of Operations 1/24/42

Singapore: Japanese air and ground attacks continue - this seems to be occupying the attention of a sizeable part of the IJA and land-base air forces. My fortification level dropped from 5 to 4 somewhere in the last game turn or two. On the other hand... judging from results of the AAR below, it appears that Singapore has now "chewed up" five Japanese divisions (along with many smaller LCU's also shown). Would be nice to see another Japanese division or two wasted on this place before they finally capture it. Another case of Scotch, Percival?

Elements of the five Indian Brigades and two of the RAF base units evacuated so far from Singapore are now disembarked in India for rebuilding. More evacuations from Singapore will take place as the situation allows.

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Ground combat at Singapore

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 122113 troops, 512 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2313
2nd, 4th ,5th ,18th & Guards (2nd) Infantry Divisions, 21st Mixed Brigade, 4 Mixed Rgt, Sasebo 8 SNLF; 9, 12 & 28 NLF,
5 Engineer Bn; 4, 15 & 28 Engineer Rgts; 2, 6 &14 Tank Rgts; 3 & 18 Heavy FA Rgts; 3, 5 & 14 Mortar Bns, 15 Naval Gd,
3 & 10 Mtn Gun Rgts, 124 IJNAF Base Force, 20 Road Construction Bn

Defending force 59722 troops, 339 guns, 13 vehicles, Assault Value = 620
22nd & 27th Australian Brigades AIF; 1st & 2nd Malaya Brigades; 6th, 8th, 12th, 15th & 28th Indian Brigades, SSVF Brigade, Singapore Fortress; 1 & 2 HAA Rgts; 3 LAA Rgt; 1 & 2 Indian LAA Rgts; 109, 111, 112 & 113 RAF Base Force, MAF Aviation, 101 & 109 RN Base Force

Japanese max assault: 4 - adjusted assault: 0
Allied max defense: 643 - adjusted defense: 1782
Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 4)

Japanese ground losses:
204 casualties reported
Guns lost 7

Allied ground losses:
262 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

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No significant activity in India, Burma, or the DEI.

Australia & South Pacific:

Japanese now occupies most of northern New Guinea with weak LCU's against little or no Allied ground opposition. Rabaul now has LBA operating from it including Zeros and Bettys - Port Moresby being their primary target. Little activity elsewhere.

Phillipines: Ground bombardment attacks on Bataan and Cagayan. Most islands in the Central Phillipines still in Allied hands. Submarine transports now evacuating elements of Asiatic Fleet HQ and 4th Marine RCT from Bataan to Darwin.

Eastern Pacific & U.S. West Coast:

Finally have an acceptable supply level at Pearl Harbor - 40K. Supply continues to arrive at Pearl via individual AK dispatched daily (one each day) from the U.S. Japanese submarines no longer detected in San Francisco or Seattle.

Supply, fuel, air groups, and LCU's are reaching Alaska and the Aleutians from the U.S. in significant numbers.



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Question for anyone passing by....&nbsp;What's the technique&nbsp;for cutting, editing&nbsp;and pasting&nbsp;game map and screen prints to post in here? &nbsp;
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I'd try this if I knew how, couldn't find anything in the forums about how to do this.
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For screenshots - small (no installation needed) and convenient (automatically saves and clears the windows clipboard):
http://sourceforge.net/projects/screenassist

For cropping and resizing use this image viewer - again small and convenient, it's my default image viewer:
http://www.irfanview.com/

Editing:
Well, you can draw lines and create text boxes with Paint. More complete is
http://www.getpaint.net/index.html

Last but not least, a full-blown graphic program - this one is huge:
www.gimp.net

You can download all programs for free, and they are easy to use (except for Gimp, you'll have to study this for a while).
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The last shock attacks at Singapore - were those attacks by single units because of the river crossing?
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VSWG. Thanks for the screen print info - I'm now able to get screen prints, though they're going into photoshop for now.
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As far as the shock attacks at Singapore... don't know for sure but maybe he (Pillager) is attacking across a river hex. Just from looking at the map and considering that I'm on the island and the Japanese are coming across from the mainland, it would make sense (whether or not the game mechanics work that way and for that reason is another subject altogether). I&nbsp;still have level 4 fortifications in&nbsp;Singapore - while that does not account for all&nbsp;the Japanese difficulties it doesn't help their cause either. &nbsp;
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Summary of Operations 1/25 - 1/27/42

Singapore: Japanese air bombardments continue - multiple bombing raids daily. Just under 4000 supply remaining on hand.

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Ground combat at Singapore

Japanese Bombardment attacks on 1/25 and 1/27
Japanese Deliberate attack - 1/26

Attacking force 144051 troops, 546 guns, 158 vehicles, Assault Value = 2342
2nd, 4th ,5th ,18th & Guards (2nd) Infantry Divisions, 21st Mixed Brigade, 4 Mixed Rgt, Sasebo 8 SNLF; 9, 12 & 28 NLF,
5 Engineer Bn; 4, 15 & 28 Engineer Rgts; 2, 6 &14 Tank Rgts; 3 & 18 Heavy FA Rgts; 3, 5 & 14 Mortar Bns, 15 Naval Gd,
3 & 10 Mtn Gun Rgts, 124 IJNAF Base Force, 20 Road Construction Bn

Defending force 61156 troops, 375 guns, 14 vehicles, Assault Value = 640
22nd & 27th Australian Brigades AIF; 1st & 2nd Malaya Brigades; 6th, 8th, 12th, 15th & 28th Indian Brigades, SSVF Brigade, Singapore Fortress; 1 & 2 HAA Rgts; 3 LAA Rgt; 1 & 2 Indian LAA Rgts; 109, 111, 112 & 113 RAF Base Force, MAF Aviation, 101 & 109 RN Base Force

Japanese max assault: 2058 - adjusted assault: 1757
Allied max defense: 669 - adjusted defense: 1679
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 4)
Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 3

Japanese ground losses:
3219 casualties reported
Guns lost 29
Vehicles lost 9

Allied ground losses:
3673 casualties reported
Guns lost 47

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DEI: Makassar captured by Japanese. Japanese surface combat TF (BB Kongo & Haruna, 2 CA, 2 DD) bombarded Palembang on 1/27.

Australia and South Pacific:

Japanese surface TF (BB Fuso & Yamashiro) bombarded Darwin on 1/27.

Naval surface engagement between Allied and Japanese forces at Norfolk Island on 1/27 - Japanese TF attempting to interdict Allied supply transport to Norfolk. Light damage to CA Mogami and Mikuma. somewhat heavier damage to two Japanese DD's - though no Japanese ships believed to be sunk.

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Norfolk Island at 60,123

Japanese Ships
CA Mogami, Shell hits 3
CA Mikuma, Shell hits 2
CA Suzuya, Shell hits 1
CA Kumano, Shell hits 1
DD Maikaze, Shell hits 1
DD Nowaki
DD Arashi, Shell hits 1
DD Hagikaze

Allied Ships
CA Australia
CA Canberra
CL Leander
CL Achilles
CL Perth heavy damage
CL Hobart
CL Adelaide moderate damage
CL Marblehead heavy damage

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Phillipines: Japanese ground bombardment continues at both Bataan and Cagayan. No other significant activity.

No significant activity in Burma or India.

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Status map of Dutch East Indies as of 1/28/42.



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