PzB vs Wobbly - Clash of Steel
Moderators: wdolson, Don Bowen, mogami
RE: Baiting Yankee Doodle Fighter Jocks
600 supplieso ne day, 200 the next -- that second is a bit below the average consumption when there were no attacks!
I'm a little fuzzy on the supply model when you are the defender -- will you burn up the 6000 required supply a day if Andy attacks, or only if you chose an attack on his forces?
I'm a little fuzzy on the supply model when you are the defender -- will you burn up the 6000 required supply a day if Andy attacks, or only if you chose an attack on his forces?
RE: Baiting Yankee Doodle Fighter Jocks
Think the supply levels will wary a bit, but an average of 600 pr day sounds reasonable.
If Singapore can hold on for 3 more months is doubtful, but if it doesn't it should be a supply issue.
Can always open an air supply bridge and bring in a few more thousand if necessary.
Checked the reserves of HI: 670062
So even if we run out of oil we can continue producing at full capacity for quite some time.
Must admit I don't know how many HI are required each day.
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/18/44
Sub/ASW Attacks
ASW attack at 59,53
Japanese Ships
PC PC-134
PC PC-112
Allied Ships
SS Sturgeon, hits 13, on fire, heavy damage
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The enemy convoy entered Mersing:
TF 1136 encounters mine field at Mersing (23,49)
Allied Ships
SS Sturgeon, and is sunk [;)]
APD Blessman
APD George E. Badger
DE Fleming
DE Duffy
DE Donaldson
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Air Combat
Lots of attention to Singapore today:
Day Air attack on Singapore , at 23,50
Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 3
B-25J Mitchell x 13
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
42 casualties reported
Airbase hits 5
Runway hits 21
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Day Air attack on Singapore , at 23,50
Allied aircraft
Liberator VI x 7
B-25J Mitchell x 101
B-24J Liberator x 33
Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged
Japanese Ships
DD Kiri, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage *sinks*
Japanese ground losses:
318 casualties reported
Guns lost 4
Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 151
Port hits 7
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Day Air attack on Singapore , at 23,50
Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 19
Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged
Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 22
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Day Air attack on 6th Coastal Gun Regiment, at 23,50
Allied aircraft
TBM Avenger x 24
P-38J Lightning x 6
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
57 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Day Air attack on 811th Engineer Aviation Battalion, at 25,41
Japanese aircraft
Ki-102a Randy x 22
No Japanese losses
Allied ground losses:
57 casualties reported
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Day Air attack on 56th/C Division, at 23,50
Allied aircraft
SB2C Helldiver x 51
TBM Avenger x 48
Boomerang II x 8
Spitfire VIII x 4
P-40N Warhawk x 9
Allied aircraft losses
SB2C Helldiver: 2 damaged
TBM Avenger: 1 damaged
Boomerang II: 1 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
135 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
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Day Air attack on 56th/C Division, at 23,50
Allied aircraft
TBM Avenger x 4
Beaufighter VIC x 3
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 2
Allied aircraft losses
TBM Avenger: 1 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
20 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Singapore
Supplies down some 700 since yesterday; enemy air attacks were heavier today.

If Singapore can hold on for 3 more months is doubtful, but if it doesn't it should be a supply issue.
Can always open an air supply bridge and bring in a few more thousand if necessary.
Checked the reserves of HI: 670062
So even if we run out of oil we can continue producing at full capacity for quite some time.
Must admit I don't know how many HI are required each day.
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/18/44
Sub/ASW Attacks
ASW attack at 59,53
Japanese Ships
PC PC-134
PC PC-112
Allied Ships
SS Sturgeon, hits 13, on fire, heavy damage
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The enemy convoy entered Mersing:
TF 1136 encounters mine field at Mersing (23,49)
Allied Ships
SS Sturgeon, and is sunk [;)]
APD Blessman
APD George E. Badger
DE Fleming
DE Duffy
DE Donaldson
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Air Combat
Lots of attention to Singapore today:
Day Air attack on Singapore , at 23,50
Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 3
B-25J Mitchell x 13
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
42 casualties reported
Airbase hits 5
Runway hits 21
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Day Air attack on Singapore , at 23,50
Allied aircraft
Liberator VI x 7
B-25J Mitchell x 101
B-24J Liberator x 33
Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged
Japanese Ships
DD Kiri, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage *sinks*
Japanese ground losses:
318 casualties reported
Guns lost 4
Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 151
Port hits 7
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Day Air attack on Singapore , at 23,50
Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 19
Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged
Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 22
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Day Air attack on 6th Coastal Gun Regiment, at 23,50
Allied aircraft
TBM Avenger x 24
P-38J Lightning x 6
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
57 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Day Air attack on 811th Engineer Aviation Battalion, at 25,41
Japanese aircraft
Ki-102a Randy x 22
No Japanese losses
Allied ground losses:
57 casualties reported
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Day Air attack on 56th/C Division, at 23,50
Allied aircraft
SB2C Helldiver x 51
TBM Avenger x 48
Boomerang II x 8
Spitfire VIII x 4
P-40N Warhawk x 9
Allied aircraft losses
SB2C Helldiver: 2 damaged
TBM Avenger: 1 damaged
Boomerang II: 1 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
135 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
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Day Air attack on 56th/C Division, at 23,50
Allied aircraft
TBM Avenger x 4
Beaufighter VIC x 3
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 2
Allied aircraft losses
TBM Avenger: 1 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
20 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Singapore
Supplies down some 700 since yesterday; enemy air attacks were heavier today.

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"The problem in defense is how far you can go without destroying from within what you are trying to defend from without"
- Dwight D. Eisenhower
RE: Baiting Yankee Doodle Fighter Jocks
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/19/44
Sub/ASW Attacks
USS Corvina reported sunk!
Sub attack at 30,53
Japanese Ships
AP Takayo Maru
Allied Ships
SS Spikefish
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Sub attack at 30,53
Japanese Ships - a 90 sys damage ship trying to move to Camhranh Bay.
AP Keisho Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage *scuttled*
Allied Ships
SS Spikefish
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Air Combat
Yesterday I spotted a TF sailing past the Marianas. My smaller naval attack units
didn't attack and the TF was identified as AK/AP/CA. Was a bit sceptical and ordered
more naval bombers to Iwo Jima an Saipan.
Today the enemy TF turned out to be a carrier TF that stopped by the Bonins and hit
2 supply convoys there. Our planes at Iwo didn't attack - fortunately. Didn't have the
200 fighters required to get through a cv Uber CAP.
Of course Andy chose the optimal timing, can't remember having 5 TFs in the area for months.
Despite rain his cv's and their targets were all in the clear - ALL day long [8|]
Mostly disbandoning shipping and preparing naval bombers if Andy weers to close to a hornets
nest. I did actually sortie the KB, but they're returning to base. Nothing to be gained here.
The Zuikaku hasn't joined the fleet yet either, but she's down to 7 sys damage.
Day Air attack on TF, near Bonin at 65,52 - supply convoy
Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 46
F4U-1D Corsair x 24
SB2C Helldiver x 47
TBM Avenger x 16
No Allied losses
Japanese Ships
AK Tatsushiro Maru, Bomb hits 8, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Awaji Maru, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Asahi Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Jogu Maru, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Gozan Maru, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
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Day Air attack on TF at 64,51
Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 90
F4U-1D Corsair x 34
SB2C Helldiver x 28
Allied aircraft losses
SB2C Helldiver: 4 damaged
Japanese Ships: this was a larger convoy with an Air HQ.
AP Bokuyo Maru
AP Kamo Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
PC PC-67, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
PC PC-37, Bomb hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
Japanese ground losses:
73 casualties reported
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Day Air attack on TF, near Tori Shima at 65,48 - supply convoy
Allied aircraft
SB2C Helldiver x 17
No Allied losses
Japanese Ships
AK Yosida Maru #3, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Uragami Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
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Day Air attack on TF at 64,52
Allied aircraft
TBM Avenger x 7
Allied aircraft losses
TBM Avenger: 6 damaged
Japanese Ships - the new asw frigates field heavy AA!
PC Ikuna
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Enemy Carrier Raid!

Sub/ASW Attacks
USS Corvina reported sunk!
Sub attack at 30,53
Japanese Ships
AP Takayo Maru
Allied Ships
SS Spikefish
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Sub attack at 30,53
Japanese Ships - a 90 sys damage ship trying to move to Camhranh Bay.
AP Keisho Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage *scuttled*
Allied Ships
SS Spikefish
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Air Combat
Yesterday I spotted a TF sailing past the Marianas. My smaller naval attack units
didn't attack and the TF was identified as AK/AP/CA. Was a bit sceptical and ordered
more naval bombers to Iwo Jima an Saipan.
Today the enemy TF turned out to be a carrier TF that stopped by the Bonins and hit
2 supply convoys there. Our planes at Iwo didn't attack - fortunately. Didn't have the
200 fighters required to get through a cv Uber CAP.
Of course Andy chose the optimal timing, can't remember having 5 TFs in the area for months.
Despite rain his cv's and their targets were all in the clear - ALL day long [8|]
Mostly disbandoning shipping and preparing naval bombers if Andy weers to close to a hornets
nest. I did actually sortie the KB, but they're returning to base. Nothing to be gained here.
The Zuikaku hasn't joined the fleet yet either, but she's down to 7 sys damage.
Day Air attack on TF, near Bonin at 65,52 - supply convoy
Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 46
F4U-1D Corsair x 24
SB2C Helldiver x 47
TBM Avenger x 16
No Allied losses
Japanese Ships
AK Tatsushiro Maru, Bomb hits 8, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Awaji Maru, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Asahi Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Jogu Maru, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Gozan Maru, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
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Day Air attack on TF at 64,51
Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 90
F4U-1D Corsair x 34
SB2C Helldiver x 28
Allied aircraft losses
SB2C Helldiver: 4 damaged
Japanese Ships: this was a larger convoy with an Air HQ.
AP Bokuyo Maru
AP Kamo Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
PC PC-67, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
PC PC-37, Bomb hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
Japanese ground losses:
73 casualties reported
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Day Air attack on TF, near Tori Shima at 65,48 - supply convoy
Allied aircraft
SB2C Helldiver x 17
No Allied losses
Japanese Ships
AK Yosida Maru #3, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Uragami Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
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Day Air attack on TF at 64,52
Allied aircraft
TBM Avenger x 7
Allied aircraft losses
TBM Avenger: 6 damaged
Japanese Ships - the new asw frigates field heavy AA!
PC Ikuna
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Enemy Carrier Raid!

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"The problem in defense is how far you can go without destroying from within what you are trying to defend from without"
- Dwight D. Eisenhower
- Rob Brennan UK
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RE: Baiting Yankee Doodle Fighter Jocks
your doing an amazing ASW job. some of your MSW/PG must be at heroic exp levels by now ..
sorry for the spelling . English is my main language , I just can't type . and i'm too lazy to edit 
RE: Baiting Yankee Doodle Fighter Jocks
Hi,
good job on those nasty subs [:D]
If you want to know what to expect from the red juggernaut you can try the Manchuko scenario. Of course in the scenario there is no forts, no preparation, no a/c to speak of and most troops s***. Still a couple of 2500+ AP Mech Corps rolling up your rail lines is impressive.
good job on those nasty subs [:D]
If you want to know what to expect from the red juggernaut you can try the Manchuko scenario. Of course in the scenario there is no forts, no preparation, no a/c to speak of and most troops s***. Still a couple of 2500+ AP Mech Corps rolling up your rail lines is impressive.

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RE: Baiting Yankee Doodle Fighter Jocks
My asw ships gain exp extremely slowly, would be lucky to find anyone with more than 56....
Not sure what they have to do, but fighting surface battles seems to be the only way to gain exp quickly - and that shouldn't
really count towards asw capabilities [8|]
I'm building lots of forts and preparing a lot of defensive positions in Manchuko, no doubts the Red Steam Roller will be
difficult to stop. Will be a welcome diversion from the Uber CAP though.....
Today I had a good laugh when the Uber CAP showed itself from its most extreme side:
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/20/44
Sub/ASW Attacks
ASW attack at 53,52
Japanese Ships
PC PC-50
PC PC-46
PC PC-44
PC PC-43
PC PC-42
PC PC-39
PC PC-38
PC PC-35
Allied Ships
SS Icefish, hits 5
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Air Combat
The enemy carriers moved closer to the Home Islands, knowing that they had nothing to fear
under their Uber CAP umbrella: Only hit an empty convoy though.
Day Air attack on TF at 64,52
Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 83
F4U-1D Corsair x 33
SB2C Helldiver x 44
TBM Avenger x 4
Allied aircraft losses
SB2C Helldiver: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
Japanese Ships
AP Arabia Maru, Bomb hits 10, on fire, heavy damage
PC PC-60, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
PC PC-47, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
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Day Air attack on TF at 64,52
Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 8
TBM Avenger x 8
Allied aircraft losses
TBM Avenger: 5 damaged
Japanese Ships
PC PC-47, on fire, heavy damage
PC PC-205, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
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Suicide Run
I've reserved this section for the Uber CAP [:D]
I'm starting to understand how Ron must feel everyday about most things in WitP now...
From Bangkok I gathered 100 Betties and 200 Oscars as the enemy transports and carriers that
hunted my tanker convoy had entered the port. From 7 hexes the bombers struck and I hoped that
the in port penalty would reduce the enemy CAP. The CAP wasn't extreme - 'only' 86 fighters.
They still shot down 120 of the 123 Oscars and 55 Betties [:D]
This would mean that each of the enemy fighters were perfectly positioned to first deal with all 120
fighters and then the bombers....averaging 2 kills pr Doodle fighter jock!
As I predicted some 20 Betties got through - but instead of attacking the enemy carriers they hit the transports
and scored 1 hit...... [:D] The planes were all expendable, but this just shows how impossible flawed the A2A model is.
I know we knew this, but still, can't do nothing but complain as this is HAS to be DEALT with - ASAP!
Day Air attack on TF, near Khota Bharu at 24,45
Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 77
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 123
Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 50
F4U-1D Corsair x 18
P-38J Lightning x 18
Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 55 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 120 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 4 destroyed, 21 damaged
F4U-1D Corsair: 2 damaged
P-38J Lightning: 3 damaged
Allied Ships
AP Cape San Juan, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AP Heywood
AP Custer
AP American Legion
AP Monrovia
Allied ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Aircraft Attacking:
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet

Not sure what they have to do, but fighting surface battles seems to be the only way to gain exp quickly - and that shouldn't
really count towards asw capabilities [8|]
I'm building lots of forts and preparing a lot of defensive positions in Manchuko, no doubts the Red Steam Roller will be
difficult to stop. Will be a welcome diversion from the Uber CAP though.....
Today I had a good laugh when the Uber CAP showed itself from its most extreme side:
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/20/44
Sub/ASW Attacks
ASW attack at 53,52
Japanese Ships
PC PC-50
PC PC-46
PC PC-44
PC PC-43
PC PC-42
PC PC-39
PC PC-38
PC PC-35
Allied Ships
SS Icefish, hits 5
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Air Combat
The enemy carriers moved closer to the Home Islands, knowing that they had nothing to fear
under their Uber CAP umbrella: Only hit an empty convoy though.
Day Air attack on TF at 64,52
Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 83
F4U-1D Corsair x 33
SB2C Helldiver x 44
TBM Avenger x 4
Allied aircraft losses
SB2C Helldiver: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
Japanese Ships
AP Arabia Maru, Bomb hits 10, on fire, heavy damage
PC PC-60, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
PC PC-47, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
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Day Air attack on TF at 64,52
Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 8
TBM Avenger x 8
Allied aircraft losses
TBM Avenger: 5 damaged
Japanese Ships
PC PC-47, on fire, heavy damage
PC PC-205, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
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Suicide Run
I've reserved this section for the Uber CAP [:D]
I'm starting to understand how Ron must feel everyday about most things in WitP now...
From Bangkok I gathered 100 Betties and 200 Oscars as the enemy transports and carriers that
hunted my tanker convoy had entered the port. From 7 hexes the bombers struck and I hoped that
the in port penalty would reduce the enemy CAP. The CAP wasn't extreme - 'only' 86 fighters.
They still shot down 120 of the 123 Oscars and 55 Betties [:D]
This would mean that each of the enemy fighters were perfectly positioned to first deal with all 120
fighters and then the bombers....averaging 2 kills pr Doodle fighter jock!
As I predicted some 20 Betties got through - but instead of attacking the enemy carriers they hit the transports
and scored 1 hit...... [:D] The planes were all expendable, but this just shows how impossible flawed the A2A model is.
I know we knew this, but still, can't do nothing but complain as this is HAS to be DEALT with - ASAP!
Day Air attack on TF, near Khota Bharu at 24,45
Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 77
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 123
Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 50
F4U-1D Corsair x 18
P-38J Lightning x 18
Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 55 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 120 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 4 destroyed, 21 damaged
F4U-1D Corsair: 2 damaged
P-38J Lightning: 3 damaged
Allied Ships
AP Cape San Juan, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AP Heywood
AP Custer
AP American Legion
AP Monrovia
Allied ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Aircraft Attacking:
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet

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"The problem in defense is how far you can go without destroying from within what you are trying to defend from without"
- Dwight D. Eisenhower
RE: Baiting Yankee Doodle Fighter Jocks
The enemy carriers moved just a few hexes to Bonin Isl. The island got 4 af and 250 AS, but
I prefered to protect Home Island bases and not risk a suicide run. It's impossible to launch
enough ac from size 4 bases to penetrate the enemy Uber CAP.
The results of the extreme a2a and CAP routines mean that enemy carriers can move almost
wherever they like as long as they stay > 6 hexes from any size >7 base.
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/21/44
Sub/ASW Attacks
USS Baya reported sunk!
1 PG and 2 small msw's sunk by subs in return.
Sub attack at 36,53
Japanese Ships
PG Saiko Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
PG Kyo Maru #10
PG Koei Maru
PG Ikunta Maru
PG Chosa Maru
PG Uji
PG Saga
MSW Hinode Maru #18
Allied Ships
SS Cabrilla
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Sub attack at 41,46
Japanese Ships
MSW Tomozono Maru #3, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Tasei Maru
MSW Tamaura Maru
MSW Sonobe Maru
MSW Shonan Maru #8
Allied Ships
SS Sealion
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Sub attack at 41,46
Japanese Ships
MSW Sonobe Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Tasei Maru
MSW Tamaura Maru
MSW Shonan Maru #8
Allied Ships
SS Sealion
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Air Combat
Andy's carriers moved just south of Bonin and struck the now empty transports!
By a little miracle we managed to unload under the nose of a strong enemy cv force.
Day Air attack on TF, near Bonin at 65,52
Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 82
F4U-1D Corsair x 34
SB2C Helldiver x 41
TBM Avenger x 11
Allied aircraft losses
SB2C Helldiver: 1 damaged
Japanese Ships
AP Kitano Maru, Bomb hits 6, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP Kisogawa Maru, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP Kamikaze Maru, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP Bokuyo Maru, Bomb hits 5, on fire
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Day Air attack on TF, near Bonin at 65,52
Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 56
F4U-1D Corsair x 15
SB2C Helldiver x 39
TBM Avenger x 4
No Allied losses
Japanese Ships
AP Kisogawa Maru, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AP Bokuyo Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AP Kamikaze Maru, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AP Kitano Maru, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
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Long range bombers from Malaya hit an empty tanker convoy of Saigon. Need some CAP here.
Not sure if I should dare another convoy run, think I'll wait until things cool down a bit.
Little crude left at Palembang anyway, perhaps we can run the crude from Batavia to India.
Day Air attack on TF, near Saigon at 31,46
Allied aircraft
Mosquito FB.VI x 12
B-25J Mitchell x 7
Allied aircraft losses
Mosquito FB.VI: 1 damaged
Japanese Ships
MSW Shawa Maru #10
TK Yamazuru Maru
TK Kyuei Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
TK Tachibana Maru
TK Ogurasan Maru
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Day Air attack on TF, near Saigon at 31,46
Allied aircraft
Mosquito FB.VI x 6
B-25J Mitchell x 8
No Allied losses
Japanese Ships
TK Nanei Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
TK Tachibana Maru
TK Akane Maru
MSW Fukeui Maru #7, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
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I prefered to protect Home Island bases and not risk a suicide run. It's impossible to launch
enough ac from size 4 bases to penetrate the enemy Uber CAP.
The results of the extreme a2a and CAP routines mean that enemy carriers can move almost
wherever they like as long as they stay > 6 hexes from any size >7 base.
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/21/44
Sub/ASW Attacks
USS Baya reported sunk!
1 PG and 2 small msw's sunk by subs in return.
Sub attack at 36,53
Japanese Ships
PG Saiko Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
PG Kyo Maru #10
PG Koei Maru
PG Ikunta Maru
PG Chosa Maru
PG Uji
PG Saga
MSW Hinode Maru #18
Allied Ships
SS Cabrilla
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Sub attack at 41,46
Japanese Ships
MSW Tomozono Maru #3, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Tasei Maru
MSW Tamaura Maru
MSW Sonobe Maru
MSW Shonan Maru #8
Allied Ships
SS Sealion
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Sub attack at 41,46
Japanese Ships
MSW Sonobe Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Tasei Maru
MSW Tamaura Maru
MSW Shonan Maru #8
Allied Ships
SS Sealion
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Air Combat
Andy's carriers moved just south of Bonin and struck the now empty transports!
By a little miracle we managed to unload under the nose of a strong enemy cv force.
Day Air attack on TF, near Bonin at 65,52
Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 82
F4U-1D Corsair x 34
SB2C Helldiver x 41
TBM Avenger x 11
Allied aircraft losses
SB2C Helldiver: 1 damaged
Japanese Ships
AP Kitano Maru, Bomb hits 6, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP Kisogawa Maru, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP Kamikaze Maru, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP Bokuyo Maru, Bomb hits 5, on fire
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Day Air attack on TF, near Bonin at 65,52
Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 56
F4U-1D Corsair x 15
SB2C Helldiver x 39
TBM Avenger x 4
No Allied losses
Japanese Ships
AP Kisogawa Maru, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AP Bokuyo Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AP Kamikaze Maru, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AP Kitano Maru, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
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Long range bombers from Malaya hit an empty tanker convoy of Saigon. Need some CAP here.
Not sure if I should dare another convoy run, think I'll wait until things cool down a bit.
Little crude left at Palembang anyway, perhaps we can run the crude from Batavia to India.
Day Air attack on TF, near Saigon at 31,46
Allied aircraft
Mosquito FB.VI x 12
B-25J Mitchell x 7
Allied aircraft losses
Mosquito FB.VI: 1 damaged
Japanese Ships
MSW Shawa Maru #10
TK Yamazuru Maru
TK Kyuei Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
TK Tachibana Maru
TK Ogurasan Maru
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Day Air attack on TF, near Saigon at 31,46
Allied aircraft
Mosquito FB.VI x 6
B-25J Mitchell x 8
No Allied losses
Japanese Ships
TK Nanei Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
TK Tachibana Maru
TK Akane Maru
MSW Fukeui Maru #7, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
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RE: Baiting Yankee Doodle Fighter Jocks
ORIGINAL: castor troy
The Ohka is probably worth nothing in the game I fear (as it was in real life). IIRC you only get 9!!! per month and I bet if you get off a raid they will attack some AKs instead of high value targets...
Yeah, you only get 9 per month. It is commonly thought that we should be getting 90 per month and that it is a typo.
Created by the amazing Dixie
RE: Baiting Yankee Doodle Fighter Jocks
Hmmmmmmm....If there are any Allied fan boys out there that feel that the Japs get too many advantages, they should
remember that 90% of the 'typos' favor them [8|]
remember that 90% of the 'typos' favor them [8|]

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RE: Baiting Yankee Doodle Fighter Jocks
ORIGINAL: PzB
Hmmmmmmm....If there are any Allied fan boys out there that feel that the Japs get too many advantages, they should
remember that 90% of the 'typos' favor them [8|]
mhmmm
and they could have been fixed for two years now. That´s the sad thing....
RE: Baiting Yankee Doodle Fighter Jocks
Not many have played WitP into 44-45, so I guess Matrix has worked towards improving the game
in 42...were most people play?
Andy finally sent his Superforts after my training bases in China!
Well, sending 172 Superforts from Georgetown, an isolated malaria base in Malaya, is quite impossible
in itself. But the funniest thing is that when the 172 Superforts arrived over Nanning almost all our ac
were out raiding Kweiyang! So except from the 20 or so damaged Bettys that were refitting there, we
didn't loose anything! [8D]
I've been expecting a visit, but decided to continue training until he did.
Most of my bases have large number 80+ exp interceptors - will put them on 90% CAP.
If - or when - the Forts come back they should expect heavy casualties...and now Andy knows that it's
possible that the rest may be out raiding the Chinks [:D]
Looks like the enemy carriers are heading back towards the Marshalls...
The sunk a dozen transports, cargo ships and a few escorts. Can live with that.
The Zuikaku is down to 6 sys damage, a few more days and it will receive its last upgrade.
3 fleet carriers and 3 cvl's - that's one of Andy's carrier TFs! Have to use it wisely.
A small miracle that we still have a KB left.
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/22/44
Sub/ASW Attacks
Another enemy sub reported sunk!
Our older PG's aint very effective asw vessels. It's only the new models that stand a chance.
Sub attack at 36,53
Japanese Ships
PG Saga, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage *sinks*
PG Kyo Maru #10
PG Koei Maru
PG Ikunta Maru
PG Chosa Maru
PG Uji
MSW Hinode Maru #18
Allied Ships
SS Cabrilla, hits 2 *fuel leak*
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Air Combat
Day Air attack on Nanning , at 40,38
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 172
Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 14 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 1 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
39 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Airbase hits 28
Airbase supply hits 8
Runway hits 205
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Day Air attack on Kweiyang , at 41,35
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 126
N1K1-J George x 75
D4Y Judy x 9
B7A Grace x 34
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 72
No Japanese losses
Airbase hits 15
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 93
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Day Air attack on TF at 25,56
Japanese aircraft
B7A Grace x 15 - that was 15 good kamis that sacrificed themselves for 1 barge...Grrrr
Japanese aircraft losses
B7A Grace: 15 destroyed
Allied Ships - how I loathe these barge convoys...does Andy really needs them for troop
transport?
LCT LCT-153, Kamikaze hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
LCT LCT-174
Allied ground losses:
57 casualties reported
Guns lost 3
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Great...ONE enemy transport!
Day Air attack on TF at 22,55
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 17
N1K1-J George x 33
B7A Grace x 2
G4M1 Betty x 7
G4M2 Betty x 12
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 48
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 18
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 30
Japanese aircraft losses
B7A Grace: 2 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged
Allied Ships
AK Scotia, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage *sinks*
Allied ground losses: - 1 damaged transport loaded with troops?
Is Andy crazy? <G>
101 casualties reported
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Kwantung Area Army
This is the defensive line I've been building. 9 forts even in open terrain [8D]
There will be a few fortress cities (red circles), and the MLR will follow the river.
Even powerful mech corps will have to face formidable defenses.
Not sure it would be worthwhile to sacrifice a Bde or Div to defend the outlying bases,
even though they have 9 forts. Think it is smarter to gather as many troops as possible in
the 'choke points' and force a battle of attrition with several fall back positions with
heavy forts. Only 8-9 months until we got yet another war on our hands! Fortunately it will
only last 6 months....

in 42...were most people play?
Andy finally sent his Superforts after my training bases in China!
Well, sending 172 Superforts from Georgetown, an isolated malaria base in Malaya, is quite impossible
in itself. But the funniest thing is that when the 172 Superforts arrived over Nanning almost all our ac
were out raiding Kweiyang! So except from the 20 or so damaged Bettys that were refitting there, we
didn't loose anything! [8D]
I've been expecting a visit, but decided to continue training until he did.
Most of my bases have large number 80+ exp interceptors - will put them on 90% CAP.
If - or when - the Forts come back they should expect heavy casualties...and now Andy knows that it's
possible that the rest may be out raiding the Chinks [:D]
Looks like the enemy carriers are heading back towards the Marshalls...
The sunk a dozen transports, cargo ships and a few escorts. Can live with that.
The Zuikaku is down to 6 sys damage, a few more days and it will receive its last upgrade.
3 fleet carriers and 3 cvl's - that's one of Andy's carrier TFs! Have to use it wisely.
A small miracle that we still have a KB left.
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/22/44
Sub/ASW Attacks
Another enemy sub reported sunk!
Our older PG's aint very effective asw vessels. It's only the new models that stand a chance.
Sub attack at 36,53
Japanese Ships
PG Saga, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage *sinks*
PG Kyo Maru #10
PG Koei Maru
PG Ikunta Maru
PG Chosa Maru
PG Uji
MSW Hinode Maru #18
Allied Ships
SS Cabrilla, hits 2 *fuel leak*
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Air Combat
Day Air attack on Nanning , at 40,38
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 172
Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 14 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 1 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
39 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Airbase hits 28
Airbase supply hits 8
Runway hits 205
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Day Air attack on Kweiyang , at 41,35
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 126
N1K1-J George x 75
D4Y Judy x 9
B7A Grace x 34
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 72
No Japanese losses
Airbase hits 15
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 93
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Day Air attack on TF at 25,56
Japanese aircraft
B7A Grace x 15 - that was 15 good kamis that sacrificed themselves for 1 barge...Grrrr
Japanese aircraft losses
B7A Grace: 15 destroyed
Allied Ships - how I loathe these barge convoys...does Andy really needs them for troop
transport?
LCT LCT-153, Kamikaze hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
LCT LCT-174
Allied ground losses:
57 casualties reported
Guns lost 3
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Great...ONE enemy transport!
Day Air attack on TF at 22,55
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 17
N1K1-J George x 33
B7A Grace x 2
G4M1 Betty x 7
G4M2 Betty x 12
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 48
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 18
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 30
Japanese aircraft losses
B7A Grace: 2 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged
Allied Ships
AK Scotia, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage *sinks*
Allied ground losses: - 1 damaged transport loaded with troops?
Is Andy crazy? <G>
101 casualties reported
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Kwantung Area Army
This is the defensive line I've been building. 9 forts even in open terrain [8D]
There will be a few fortress cities (red circles), and the MLR will follow the river.
Even powerful mech corps will have to face formidable defenses.
Not sure it would be worthwhile to sacrifice a Bde or Div to defend the outlying bases,
even though they have 9 forts. Think it is smarter to gather as many troops as possible in
the 'choke points' and force a battle of attrition with several fall back positions with
heavy forts. Only 8-9 months until we got yet another war on our hands! Fortunately it will
only last 6 months....

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RE: Baiting Yankee Doodle Fighter Jocks
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/23/44
Sub/ASW Attacks
An empty tanker takes a hit while a sub is damaged!
Sub attack at 32,51
Japanese Ships
TK Tatekawa Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
MSW Banshu Maru #51
MSW Tama Maru
MSW Mejima Maru
MSW Shawa Maru #10
MSW Rokko Maru
MSW Atsu Maru
MSW Shonan Maru #7
MSW Banshu Maru #52
Allied Ships
SS Haddo
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ASW attack at 36,53
Japanese Ships
PC Ch 14
PG Daido Maru
PC PC-51
PC Shonan
PC Wakamiya
PC Mutsure
PC Oki
Allied Ships
SS Cabrilla, hits 6
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Air Combat
MOHAHAHA!
After several annoying turns Andy sent 84 Superforts to Wuchow and met 82 very angry
and skilled defenders! They made chop suey of more than 50 Superforts for the cost of 9 fighters
and just a few pilots [:D]
The Uber CAP works both ways....so you're welcome back anytime Mr A!
Just to add insult my training wings took of as usual after the flawed attack [:)]
Day Air attack on Wuchow , at 42,39
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 64
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 18
Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 84
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 5 destroyed, 22 damaged
Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 4 destroyed, 5 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 39 destroyed, 6 damaged
Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 1
Aircraft Attacking:
5 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
7 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
5 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
5 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Kweiyang , at 41,35
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 305
J2M Jack x 73
D4Y Judy x 127
B5N Kate x 21
P1Y Frances x 9
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 29
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 15
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 70
Ki-102a Randy x 28
No Japanese losses
Airbase hits 16
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 421
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57 Dead Superforts!

Sub/ASW Attacks
An empty tanker takes a hit while a sub is damaged!
Sub attack at 32,51
Japanese Ships
TK Tatekawa Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
MSW Banshu Maru #51
MSW Tama Maru
MSW Mejima Maru
MSW Shawa Maru #10
MSW Rokko Maru
MSW Atsu Maru
MSW Shonan Maru #7
MSW Banshu Maru #52
Allied Ships
SS Haddo
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ASW attack at 36,53
Japanese Ships
PC Ch 14
PG Daido Maru
PC PC-51
PC Shonan
PC Wakamiya
PC Mutsure
PC Oki
Allied Ships
SS Cabrilla, hits 6
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Air Combat
MOHAHAHA!

After several annoying turns Andy sent 84 Superforts to Wuchow and met 82 very angry
and skilled defenders! They made chop suey of more than 50 Superforts for the cost of 9 fighters
and just a few pilots [:D]
The Uber CAP works both ways....so you're welcome back anytime Mr A!
Just to add insult my training wings took of as usual after the flawed attack [:)]
Day Air attack on Wuchow , at 42,39
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 64
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 18
Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 84
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 5 destroyed, 22 damaged
Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 4 destroyed, 5 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 39 destroyed, 6 damaged
Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 1
Aircraft Attacking:
5 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
7 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
5 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
5 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Kweiyang , at 41,35
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 305
J2M Jack x 73
D4Y Judy x 127
B5N Kate x 21
P1Y Frances x 9
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 29
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 15
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 70
Ki-102a Randy x 28
No Japanese losses
Airbase hits 16
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 421
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57 Dead Superforts!

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"The problem in defense is how far you can go without destroying from within what you are trying to defend from without"
- Dwight D. Eisenhower
RE: Baiting Yankee Doodle Fighter Jocks
Those B-29s were flying a bit low...........which must have added to your kills........well done....some glimmer of hope for late war Jap. players........
RE: Baiting Yankee Doodle Fighter Jocks
Well done!
oh, you know how much i like ambushing[;)][:D]... I read on the main forum how much Andy expect from them (against me)... with PDU on, Zekes will be Jacks and Tojos Franks
... just imagine, the real wet dream for every JFB!
oh, you know how much i like ambushing[;)][:D]... I read on the main forum how much Andy expect from them (against me)... with PDU on, Zekes will be Jacks and Tojos Franks
... just imagine, the real wet dream for every JFB!
RE: Baiting Yankee Doodle Fighter Jocks
Not sure why Andy went in from 6k feet... Little opposition at Nanning, but Wuchow holds 1100 AP and lots of tripple A!-)
Maybe only half his strike went in, still the results would have been bloody.
Those Tojos were one of 2 remaining units. They upgrade to the late 12/44 version of the Frank. I've trained them to 86 avg exp [:D]
The Zekes were all >75 exp, so the B-29s asked for it. Still way to bloody and 'wrong' results, but I've been in the receiving end for too long to care.
Hopefully this means that Andy will be much more hesitant using B-29s outside of escort fighter range. He will soon get his first long range P-51 fighters.
Think that's end 44, early 45?
Maybe only half his strike went in, still the results would have been bloody.
Those Tojos were one of 2 remaining units. They upgrade to the late 12/44 version of the Frank. I've trained them to 86 avg exp [:D]
The Zekes were all >75 exp, so the B-29s asked for it. Still way to bloody and 'wrong' results, but I've been in the receiving end for too long to care.
Hopefully this means that Andy will be much more hesitant using B-29s outside of escort fighter range. He will soon get his first long range P-51 fighters.
Think that's end 44, early 45?

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RE: Baiting Yankee Doodle Fighter Jocks
Hi John,
P51D's appear in 9/44 IIRC............?
P51D's appear in 9/44 IIRC............?
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RE: Baiting Yankee Doodle Fighter Jocks
Yes, but when I checked in my Allied WitP game I noticed that no units equipped with the P51 arrives until the end of 44,
beginning of 45 [:)] Haven't seen any yet, nor have I missed them [:D]
beginning of 45 [:)] Haven't seen any yet, nor have I missed them [:D]

"The problem in defense is how far you can go without destroying from within what you are trying to defend from without"
- Dwight D. Eisenhower
RE: Baiting Yankee Doodle Fighter Jocks
Can't say there was a lot of interesting action today...B-29s attacked several targets
in smaller waves with little to show for it.
I'm just hanging in there, repairing ships, traning troops and building forts.
With the Zuikaku we will finally have a potent carrier force again and quite a few cruisers
and destroyers will also return to duty shortly.
Some 220k crude is being unloaded in Japan right now, should help a little on the oil reserves.
Will be difficult to get another shipment that big through.
A large LCU reached Saigon, this is one of the few non-malaria bases, and I will use it as
a base for my reserves in the area.
Substantially fewer enemy subs around now, wonder why [;)]
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/24/44
in smaller waves with little to show for it.
I'm just hanging in there, repairing ships, traning troops and building forts.
With the Zuikaku we will finally have a potent carrier force again and quite a few cruisers
and destroyers will also return to duty shortly.
Some 220k crude is being unloaded in Japan right now, should help a little on the oil reserves.
Will be difficult to get another shipment that big through.
A large LCU reached Saigon, this is one of the few non-malaria bases, and I will use it as
a base for my reserves in the area.
Substantially fewer enemy subs around now, wonder why [;)]
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/24/44

"The problem in defense is how far you can go without destroying from within what you are trying to defend from without"
- Dwight D. Eisenhower
RE: Baiting Yankee Doodle Fighter Jocks
ORIGINAL: PzB
Kwantung Area Army
Sounds reasonable. However, perhaps you can do there something more?
Here is how Imperial Pauk Family[;)] see Kwantung area defence. In fact this is a same plan as yours but think you could buy a week or two (the whole idea is buy some time till reinforcement units - regain their strength - they are coming in awful condition) .
Since all your reinforcement troops should arrive before Russian invasion you will have a plenty of troops for great maskirovka plan. I would leave significant forces at the frontier bases (even three of four division in each base on the border with Russia). You can set one or two units in each base to prepare for these border bases, while other would prepare for your main defensive line. The goal is forcing Russian troops to prepare for border bases - just before start of invasion you can easily withdraw your first line troops to the "Orange line " and make a "final stand"[;)] there.
If Andy buy this story he will loose quite a lot PP for keeping his units to prepare on border bases. Now, you may see that "Orange line" bases or hexes are almost all with some kind of bonus (woods, mountains, rivers) - perhaps it would be worth to try to delay enemy there? (Would be nice to keep Harbin with Shinden factory [:D] ALAP)... even if you decide not to make stand on the Orange line you can easily withdraw to the Yellow defensive line -
Even on Yellow defensive line you don't need to defend all for any cost - a determined defence here will delay Ruskies but once when situation become desperate (danger of being encircled!) you can make a last stand on Red defensive line!
I see that you are well prepared for eventual air terror once when his bombers came into range of HI... but i'm bit worried about night bombing campaign - afraid there is nothing it could be done since Jap radar is broken[:(]... however, despite that i'm training my night fighers - perhaps crack pilots can do something?

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That's a very good analysis Pauk-San! All Kwantung area Army bases have 9 forts, and those in mountainous terrain will
be very hard to defeat. The current defensive ring is manned with the best forces we got, so for now we can't expand it.
Still, within 200 days another 32 divisions and brigades will arrive for Kwantung. This should make it possible to use
some 16 for an expanded perimeter.
Opposite to RL Kwantung Area Army got a lot of high quality units, even in the end of 1944.
It cost more than 3000 points to release a single division, and this can't be done often. In RL fresh divs were moved to Kwantung
while experienced ones were shuttled to the Pacific.
I suggest the following:
Units in China/Kwantung Area Army should be able to be swapped for similar units from other theaters.
This way it would be possible to simulate the exchange of green/vet units.
As it is Andy will run into a very professional and tough army when he unleashes his red hoards.
Been busy in Haugesund, my home town, this weekend.
Just played a turn and moved fuel and supplies around the theaters.
We lost a few tankers to enemy air attack and Singapore was hit hard - again.
Still, Singapore stands at 1008 AP with 64594 points. Andy got no less than 35 units stacked, preparing for the assault.
Guess he wants to overwhelm our defenders. I'm tempted to airlift in another regiment....no enemy LRCAP now.
The Zuikaku has received its 10/44 upgrade and is back to 8 sys damage, only 4 more than its sister.
All our carriers now have a decent AA suit. To bad the Taiho upgrade hasn't been 'fixed' in the last patches. She can't be
upgraded. In 2 days I will assemble a surface fleet of 1 ca, 3 cl and 11 destroyers that have been fixed or just included into
the Combined Fleet.
Our sub fleet with mines is passing Midway.
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/25/44
Sub/ASW Attacks
ASW attack at 48,47
Japanese Ships
PC Shonan Maru #17
PC Shonon Maru #3
PC Tama Maru #8
PC Toshi Maru #3
PC Kyo Maru #12
PG Yoshida Maru
PG Santos Maru
PG Seiko Maru
MSW Eguchi Maru
MSW Choun Maru #21
Allied Ships
SS Golet, hits 5
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Tried to sneak out the damaged dd with 93 sys damage. It's now limping back to Palembang
and may sink.
Sub attack at 24,54
Japanese Ships
DD Naganami, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
Allied Ships
SS O23
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Air Combat
Day Air attack on Singapore , at 23,50
Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 26
B-25J Mitchell x 28
Allied aircraft losses
B-25J Mitchell: 3 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
59 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 48
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Day Air attack on Singapore , at 23,50
Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 61
Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 1 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
153 casualties reported
Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 52
Port hits 13
Port supply hits 3
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Day Air attack on Singapore , at 23,50
Allied aircraft
B-25J Mitchell x 64
B-29 Superfortress x 172
Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 1 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
404 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 98
Port hits 29
Port fuel hits 3
Port supply hits 7
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Day Air attack on Singapore , at 23,50
Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 16
Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged
Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 22
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Day Air attack on 56th/C Division, at 23,50
Allied aircraft
TBM Avenger x 24
P-38J Lightning x 6
Allied aircraft losses
TBM Avenger: 1 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
35 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Day Air attack on 56th/C Division, at 23,50
Allied aircraft
TBM Avenger x 3
Beaufighter VIC x 3
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 3
P-38J Lightning x 14
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
2 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Tried to break the blocade and run an empty tanker convoy to Palembang. After being
spotted Andy simply moved his cv's from Kuantan south a few hexes and damaged 12 tankers
and escorts. Half have or will sink.
The rest, some 10 tankers should get through. Will run this oil to india.
Pretty fine impossible to threaten the enemy carriers because of the long range from out
bases and the effect of the enemy CAP. Still, no use for empty tankers in port.
Day Air attack on TF at 28,54
Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 41
F4U-1D Corsair x 16
SB2C Helldiver x 29
TBM Avenger x 22
Allied aircraft losses
TBM Avenger: 2 damaged
Japanese Ships
TK Jinei, Bomb hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
TK Toen Maru
TK Sanraku Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
TK Koryo Maru
TK Yamazuru Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire
TK Tachibana Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
TK Tarakan Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
TK Toa Maru
TK Palembang Maru
MSW Shawa Maru #10, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
TK Akane Maru
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Day Air attack on TF at 28,54
Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 40
F4U-1D Corsair x 15
SB2C Helldiver x 28
TBM Avenger x 18
Allied aircraft losses
TBM Avenger: 2 damaged
Japanese Ships
TK Manei Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
TK Palembang Maru
TK Hoyo Maru
TK Tonan Maru #3, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
TK Kyokuho, Bomb hits 1, on fire
TK Ogurasan Maru, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
TK Kyokuei Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
TK Toen Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
TK Chiyoda Maru, Torpedo hits 1
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Day Air attack on TF at 28,54
Allied aircraft
Mosquito FB.VI x 12
B-25J Mitchell x 9
No Allied losses
Japanese Ships
TK Akane Maru
TK Palembang Maru
MSW Banshu Maru #51
TK Koryo Maru
MSW Rokko Maru
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/26/44
Sub/ASW Attakcs
ASW attack at 48,47
Japanese Ships
PC PC-50
PC PC-46
PC PC-44
Allied Ships
SS Golet, hits 17, on fire, heavy damage
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TF 1006 encounters mine field at Kuantan (24,47)
Japanese Ships
AK Yosida Maru #3, and is sunk
Allied Ships
SS Golet, and is sunk [8D]
DD Murray
DD Mullany
DD McGowan
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ASW attack at 67,46 - think we dispatched another sub!
Japanese Ships
PC PC-144
PC PC-68
PC PC-64
PC PC-63
PC PC-41
PC Hiburi
PC Chiburi
PC Kanju
Allied Ships
SS Jallao, hits 10, on fire, heavy damage
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Day Air attack on Singapore , at 23,50
Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 57
Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 1 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
170 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 58
Port hits 6
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Day Air attack on Singapore , at 23,50
Allied aircraft
Liberator VI x 8
B-25J Mitchell x 54
B-24J Liberator x 36
Allied aircraft losses
Liberator VI: 1 damaged
B-25J Mitchell: 1 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
133 casualties reported
Guns lost 3
Airbase hits 8
Runway hits 132
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Day Air attack on Singapore , at 23,50
Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 21
Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 3 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
25 casualties reported
Runway hits 20
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Day Air attack on 6th Coastal Gun Regiment, at 23,50
Allied aircraft
SB2C Helldiver x 102
TBM Avenger x 50
Boomerang II x 7
Spitfire VIII x 10
Allied aircraft losses
SB2C Helldiver: 2 damaged
TBM Avenger: 2 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
342 casualties reported
Guns lost 5
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be very hard to defeat. The current defensive ring is manned with the best forces we got, so for now we can't expand it.
Still, within 200 days another 32 divisions and brigades will arrive for Kwantung. This should make it possible to use
some 16 for an expanded perimeter.
Opposite to RL Kwantung Area Army got a lot of high quality units, even in the end of 1944.
It cost more than 3000 points to release a single division, and this can't be done often. In RL fresh divs were moved to Kwantung
while experienced ones were shuttled to the Pacific.
I suggest the following:
Units in China/Kwantung Area Army should be able to be swapped for similar units from other theaters.
This way it would be possible to simulate the exchange of green/vet units.
As it is Andy will run into a very professional and tough army when he unleashes his red hoards.
Been busy in Haugesund, my home town, this weekend.
Just played a turn and moved fuel and supplies around the theaters.
We lost a few tankers to enemy air attack and Singapore was hit hard - again.
Still, Singapore stands at 1008 AP with 64594 points. Andy got no less than 35 units stacked, preparing for the assault.
Guess he wants to overwhelm our defenders. I'm tempted to airlift in another regiment....no enemy LRCAP now.
The Zuikaku has received its 10/44 upgrade and is back to 8 sys damage, only 4 more than its sister.
All our carriers now have a decent AA suit. To bad the Taiho upgrade hasn't been 'fixed' in the last patches. She can't be
upgraded. In 2 days I will assemble a surface fleet of 1 ca, 3 cl and 11 destroyers that have been fixed or just included into
the Combined Fleet.
Our sub fleet with mines is passing Midway.
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/25/44
Sub/ASW Attacks
ASW attack at 48,47
Japanese Ships
PC Shonan Maru #17
PC Shonon Maru #3
PC Tama Maru #8
PC Toshi Maru #3
PC Kyo Maru #12
PG Yoshida Maru
PG Santos Maru
PG Seiko Maru
MSW Eguchi Maru
MSW Choun Maru #21
Allied Ships
SS Golet, hits 5
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Tried to sneak out the damaged dd with 93 sys damage. It's now limping back to Palembang
and may sink.
Sub attack at 24,54
Japanese Ships
DD Naganami, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
Allied Ships
SS O23
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Air Combat
Day Air attack on Singapore , at 23,50
Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 26
B-25J Mitchell x 28
Allied aircraft losses
B-25J Mitchell: 3 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
59 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 48
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Day Air attack on Singapore , at 23,50
Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 61
Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 1 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
153 casualties reported
Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 52
Port hits 13
Port supply hits 3
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Day Air attack on Singapore , at 23,50
Allied aircraft
B-25J Mitchell x 64
B-29 Superfortress x 172
Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 1 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
404 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 98
Port hits 29
Port fuel hits 3
Port supply hits 7
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Day Air attack on Singapore , at 23,50
Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 16
Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged
Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 22
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Day Air attack on 56th/C Division, at 23,50
Allied aircraft
TBM Avenger x 24
P-38J Lightning x 6
Allied aircraft losses
TBM Avenger: 1 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
35 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Day Air attack on 56th/C Division, at 23,50
Allied aircraft
TBM Avenger x 3
Beaufighter VIC x 3
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 3
P-38J Lightning x 14
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
2 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Tried to break the blocade and run an empty tanker convoy to Palembang. After being
spotted Andy simply moved his cv's from Kuantan south a few hexes and damaged 12 tankers
and escorts. Half have or will sink.
The rest, some 10 tankers should get through. Will run this oil to india.
Pretty fine impossible to threaten the enemy carriers because of the long range from out
bases and the effect of the enemy CAP. Still, no use for empty tankers in port.
Day Air attack on TF at 28,54
Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 41
F4U-1D Corsair x 16
SB2C Helldiver x 29
TBM Avenger x 22
Allied aircraft losses
TBM Avenger: 2 damaged
Japanese Ships
TK Jinei, Bomb hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
TK Toen Maru
TK Sanraku Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
TK Koryo Maru
TK Yamazuru Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire
TK Tachibana Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
TK Tarakan Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
TK Toa Maru
TK Palembang Maru
MSW Shawa Maru #10, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
TK Akane Maru
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Day Air attack on TF at 28,54
Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 40
F4U-1D Corsair x 15
SB2C Helldiver x 28
TBM Avenger x 18
Allied aircraft losses
TBM Avenger: 2 damaged
Japanese Ships
TK Manei Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
TK Palembang Maru
TK Hoyo Maru
TK Tonan Maru #3, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
TK Kyokuho, Bomb hits 1, on fire
TK Ogurasan Maru, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
TK Kyokuei Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
TK Toen Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
TK Chiyoda Maru, Torpedo hits 1
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Day Air attack on TF at 28,54
Allied aircraft
Mosquito FB.VI x 12
B-25J Mitchell x 9
No Allied losses
Japanese Ships
TK Akane Maru
TK Palembang Maru
MSW Banshu Maru #51
TK Koryo Maru
MSW Rokko Maru
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/26/44
Sub/ASW Attakcs
ASW attack at 48,47
Japanese Ships
PC PC-50
PC PC-46
PC PC-44
Allied Ships
SS Golet, hits 17, on fire, heavy damage
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TF 1006 encounters mine field at Kuantan (24,47)
Japanese Ships
AK Yosida Maru #3, and is sunk
Allied Ships
SS Golet, and is sunk [8D]
DD Murray
DD Mullany
DD McGowan
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ASW attack at 67,46 - think we dispatched another sub!
Japanese Ships
PC PC-144
PC PC-68
PC PC-64
PC PC-63
PC PC-41
PC Hiburi
PC Chiburi
PC Kanju
Allied Ships
SS Jallao, hits 10, on fire, heavy damage
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Day Air attack on Singapore , at 23,50
Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 57
Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 1 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
170 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 58
Port hits 6
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Day Air attack on Singapore , at 23,50
Allied aircraft
Liberator VI x 8
B-25J Mitchell x 54
B-24J Liberator x 36
Allied aircraft losses
Liberator VI: 1 damaged
B-25J Mitchell: 1 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
133 casualties reported
Guns lost 3
Airbase hits 8
Runway hits 132
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Day Air attack on Singapore , at 23,50
Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 21
Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 3 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
25 casualties reported
Runway hits 20
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Day Air attack on 6th Coastal Gun Regiment, at 23,50
Allied aircraft
SB2C Helldiver x 102
TBM Avenger x 50
Boomerang II x 7
Spitfire VIII x 10
Allied aircraft losses
SB2C Helldiver: 2 damaged
TBM Avenger: 2 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
342 casualties reported
Guns lost 5
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"The problem in defense is how far you can go without destroying from within what you are trying to defend from without"
- Dwight D. Eisenhower




