OT?: Male Companionship

[Charles2222]

ORIGINAL: old man of the sea

baaa....

the only friend you need is a dog, everyone else comes and goes, but a dog will stay wth you until the end.

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Yeah sure, my last one went berserk (against me) and I had to put him to sleep.

[Les_the_Sarge_9_1]

To the guys worried this topic sounds too girly

Hey, I could always go back to the usual stuff like RTS rots your brain

I'm glad KG opened a thread where for once we could actually discuss something tangible, that actually does have some worth.

[KG Erwin]

ORIGINAL: Les_the_Sarge_9_1

To the guys worried this topic sounds too girly

Hey, I could always go back to the usual stuff like RTS rots your brain

I'm glad KG opened a thread where for once we could actually discuss something tangible, that actually does have some worth.

KG: Gee, thanks, Les. Will you be my buddy?

Les: (rolling eyes) Yeah, sure, KG -- here, grab a beer and go sit in a corner.

KG: Uh...ok...buddy.

[:'(]

PS BTW, the topic was NOT a joke. I guess I was having a "mortality moment".

[Les_the_Sarge_9_1]

How to recognize a real friend in 60 seconds or less.

Ok first off you're watching the game, but it's at the friend's place, on a 40+ inch Sony grand wega HD set (definitely a good friend ).

The beer is cold, it's not a lame brand (anything made in the US), and the best part, he bought it.

You're eating chicken wings that are awesome, and his wife just came in to ask if you're ready for desert (unfortunately she's average looking and fully clothed, come on, this is a friend ).

If this is your view, then the dude is clearly a friend hehe.

[KG Erwin]

ORIGINAL: Les_the_Sarge_9_1

How to recognize a real friend in 60 seconds or less.

Ok first off you're watching the game, but it's at the friend's place, on a 40+ inch Sony grand wega HD set (definitely a good friend ).

The beer is cold, it's not a lame brand (anything made in the US), and the best part, he bought it.

You're eating chicken wings that are awesome, and his wife just came in to ask if you're ready for desert (unfortunately she's average looking and fully clothed, come on, this is a friend ).

If this is your view, then the dude is clearly a friend hehe.

Sounds good to me, Les. When does the party start? [:D]

[Les_the_Sarge_9_1]

What is really cool.

Is I can manage the Sony 42in Grand Wega HD TV (it's brand new too), the Beer (and it will be Canadian beer) and the chicken wings (normally 40+) but the buddy is single (the closest he has to a "wife" ain't no use to me heheh).

Likely be visiting him right after christmas in Jan for a week of atypical batchelor living.

Guy has a natural talent for fixing computers, but I am not getting anywhere convincing him to put up a shingle and go into private business. And as such he is sans female as well as a not going anywhere life.

[UndercoverNotChickenSalad]

I have more than just a few local friends, that if I were to win a lottery, then they just won a VERY large chunk of it too.

 
No doubt their only hope of ever being paid back. 

[Raverdave]

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[Les_the_Sarge_9_1]

ORIGINAL: UndercoverNotChickenSalad

I have more than just a few local friends, that if I were to win a lottery, then they just won a VERY large chunk of it too.


No doubt their only hope of ever being paid back.

They never gave expecting to be paid back though chickenshit, that's the beauty of real friendship. Pity you don't seem to have experienced it before. But I'm sure Dogshit has your back. Actually, I've seen the way your friends all treat each other. Maybe we are describing two entirely different situations.

[UndercoverNotChickenSalad]

They never gave expecting to be paid back though chickenshit, that's the beauty of real friendship
 
Just don't take advantage as some tend to do

[Doggie]

ORIGINAL: Les_the_Sarge_9_1




They never gave expecting to be paid back though chickenshit, that's the beauty of real friendship. Pity you don't seem to have experienced it before. But I'm sure Dogshit has your back. Actually, I've seen the way your friends all treat each other. Maybe we are describing two entirely different situations.

Click here to see Lester make new friends and demonstrate his superior wit and intelligence


How's that writing career coming along? This was certainly one of your best works, and truly indicative of your artistic talent.

[KG Erwin]

Doggie, there was no need for that. I see where you are coming from, so you can crawl back into your cave now. [8|]


This thread can now be locked down.

[Doggie]

No need for a look at Les in his own words?  Oh, I get it.  Lester's own words are a "personal attack"
 
And yeah, 'chickenshit" and "dogshit", that's kewl, but me answering back, well, "there's no need for that."
 
"Quick, somebody lock the thread, somebody's making a fool out of my pal Les."  I can crawl back in my cave, but you can continue with your ubiquitious cheap shots, then whining to moderators to lock everything down after you get your two cents in.
 
Aint that the way you operate, "Gunny"?  Say, what do you think of people who give themselves titles they haven't earned?  Would it be OK with you if other people started calling themselves "Colonel"?  Did you know the eagle, globe and anchor is something recruits and naval corpsmen have to earn the right to wear?  How did you earn the title of "Gunny"?  Do you know that real veterans find it highly offensive when wanna-bes assume titles they haven't earned?

[Zap]

KG, I compare this forum to going to your local (coffe shop/pub) only here its your international pub/coffee shop. You sit down and have small talk coversation .
Like in a coffe shop/pub many of those you meet never become best friends. But it sure is good to have that interaction (being the social animals we are) whatever the level it is.
Fortunately, the people who visit this forum have demonstrated a certain level of maturity. I'm sure we would be suprised to learn the amount of smarts the participants in this particlar Forum have. So I must admit that I'm guilty of having enjoyed being a participant in this forum. I've sat before the computer reading some of the posts and find myself laughing at some of the exchanges between posters. My wife becomes a little jealous wonders why I'm having such a good time without her.[:D] So I look at it as a wealth not as something tragic.

An interesting thing about participating in this forum is we are communicating with people whom, if; we had known them personally we might never have considered him/her as someone we would even be interested in striking up a friendship with. So that is a positive as I see it.

Though I agree, nothing beats having a friend you could talk with face to face.

In response to your point I would add this bit of perspective. Modern life is so busy for us, we are constantly on the move. Things change which are beyond us to control and demands are made on our lives making it very hard to establish lasting male (best) friendships. And I don't like this about my life at all! Give me the old days when the world was more layed back. You actually had time visit with your neighbors and get to know people. Not like today, the world seems to be on a steady diet of pure adreneline. And I am unfortunately caught on this roller-coaster ride which I don't necessarily want to be on.

Although talking about male themes in forums is less desirable than a best long term friend. I have to take what is good about it and so I'll reach out over the backyard fence and toast you KG.

I did say participants here showed a level of maturity but I did forget to mention about the occasional diagreements[&:]

ORIGINAL: KG Erwin

It is both comical and tragic. For me, really, the place to take about "man stuff" has turned out to be the forums.

[Veldor]

It would be a shame to see this thread locked.

It's an even bigger shame that some would choose direct personal attacks instead of contributing to the discussion.

That is why I hate the Matrix Forums.

No Rules, People Just Do Whatever They Want... And Get Away With It.

People don't contribute crap and their only posts are too attack others and no steps are taken by anyone at Matrix.

It has happened before, it will happen here again. The people involved change but the tone here never does.

You two don't hardly even post here anymore. I don't give a crap what Les said on your forum a year and a half ago or what argument you got into with Gunny 3+ years ago. Let it go already or at least have the decency to start a new thread.

Why are you even reading this thread if you don't care for the topic? To laugh and make jokes for those that are more open to share something personal? Are you too insecure to share your own thoughts and opinions on the topic?

I'm waiting for your legitimate input on this topic so the thread can continue along as it was before you all smashed it...

[Veldor]

ORIGINAL: Zap
In response to your point I would add this bit of perspective. Modern life is so busy for us, we are constantly on the move. Things change which are beyond us to control and demands are made on our lives making it very hard to establish lasting male (best) friendships. And I don't like this about my life at all! Give me the old days when the world was more layed back. You actually had time visit with your neighbors and get to know people. Not like today, the world seems to be on a steady diet of pure adreneline. And I am unfortunately caught on this roller-coaster ride which I don't necessarily want to be on.

Is it possible that as men get older they are just too lazy to keep a majority of their friendships going? Time is obviously a factor, but with some minimal effort lack of time alone shouldn't be the cause for friendships to evaporate away. I think with the Internet and all the home-based entertainment etc. that most of us have available we simply get lazy. Maybe in some cases our wives more-or-less run our lives/social schedule and its simply easier for us that way.

Long-lasting friendships are like children in one way... We may not have time or want to make time for them now (or even have them at all) but later in life damn do you wish you had done so. Cuz suddenly all that hussle and bussle dies down... You have a ton of time on your hands... And its damn lonely.

Of course thats all speculation. I'm not nearly that old yet, but hoping to avoid that type of situation myself...

[Zap]

Hi Veldor,

You have a point about laziness and i'll agree that can be a factor. But I would say that is just one factor in the puzzle. What about friends maturing as time goes on and the other friend does not grow you need to leave that friendship behind.
And the case of someone who realizes after time that although, still a great guy your long time friend does not share your same ethical view. I think in this case you would shy away.

So best friends (longlasting) do change.

I presently have friends but not any really long term friends, say from grade school or high school. So i guess that's were my perspective is coming from.

[KG Erwin]

Good points, zap & veldor.

Oh, and for the record -- my "Gunny" nickname was given to me by a fellow forumer, to show appreciation for my contributions to SPWaW and my admiration of the USMC. I am not a veteran, so I wouldn't presume for it to imply anything other than that.

Many of us refer to Bill Wilder as "The Colonel", but he's not a combat veteran either.
I wouldn't dare say that he hasn't earned the title.

[Les_the_Sarge_9_1]

Don't sweat it people, I have no respect forthcoming from those two, they have zero intention of every being remotely mistaken as interested in being civil to me, the best they can offer is stale posts stored on their forum of hatred (one only has to visit it to see what passes for "friendship").

Thus, they will wait a long time to ever receive anything remotely capable of being mistaken for anything better than what they dish out.

Now on to better matters.

[Veldor]

ORIGINAL: Zap
What about friends maturing as time goes on and the other friend does not grow you need to leave that friendship behind.

Like a friend that just wants to get drunk (or high) all the time and basically "goof off". The funny thing to me about that is that popular media implies that that is about all guys like to do together in the first place.

To me though that particular point goes full circle back to the money issue. To some extent, when your poorer, getting drunk and goofing off is essentially cheap entertainment. One person in the friendship may likely mature faster in part because they get a better job than the other.

And the case of someone who realizes after time that although, still a great guy your long time friend does not share your same ethical view. I think in this case you would shy away.

Shouldn't a longtime best friend be almost like family? I have ALL kinds of things I disagree and disapprove of within my family and my wifes yet we still all see each other and are 100% civil towards one another (by some miracle). I tend to think its mostly a Jerry Springer redneck thing for family to disown one another (My mama slept wiff my boyfriend). With family you learn to accept the difference and move past it...I wonder why it doesn't seem to work the same way with longtime friends (Perhaps for some it does). Or am I mistaken that family gets treated differently?

I presently have friends but not any really long term friends, say from grade school or high school. So i guess that's were my perspective is coming from.

These days many kids change schools and such at least once if not many times. Though I never did, many of my friends did, so in the end I was left with none remanining that I still knew from those days. A few of my more casual highschool friends did contact me at one point but it never really went anywhere due to the above mentioned differences in maturity/values we no longer really clicked. My best friend from college ended up getting involved with a fairly weird girl I think perhaps my job/life was just too normal in comparison and again we just could no longer click again.

@ KG and anyone else... The whole veteran/title name thing is really bizarre to me. I no more would think someone online with the name Colonel So-and-so is actually a colonel than I would think anyone online with the name Doctor So-and-so was actually a doctor. Does a doctor get insulted to see people with names like "Doctor Death" etc? Especially if said character doesn't go around posing as if they are a real doctor? Perhaps it is an ego problem in that some people (doctors included) feel they deserve a certain amount of respect any and everywhere just because of their particular achievement in life. I think what some may fail to realize is that many of us perhaps even all of us have various accolades. Yet we do not see fit to shove them in others faces or in many cases ever even mention them in the first place.