ORIGINAL: emsoy
There is no mystery about the voting, strict logs are made, every form submission logged and the status (average 8 log entries per vote) as well, just to disprove any challenges of unfair voting. As Mike has found, even manual votes sent to
pooner@harpoonpages.com get counted as long as you send the details listed at the opening message of this thread (and if there are missing details I ask for them, the vote isn't simply abandoned).
Well well... we all know what happened last year Tony. The winner had been decided on even before the voting began. But some heavy maneuvering and rule-changing was necessary to produce a half-credible result, vote-vice.
BTW, before you start counting any votes I assume that you check the originator IPs to avoid duplicates. As you already know there are certain mental 'kokos' out there who own 40+ fake internet identities/e-mails and sees absolutely nothing wrong with giving themselves 40+ votes. I'd also advice that you to delete votes that come via proxies... The kokos are known to also use those for trolling purposes. Oops I hope I didn't just spoil anyones 'creative' voting plans hehe [;)]
As for personal integrety, both you Tony and Brad (CV32) tend to hang out with those very same kokos a lot...
So lets see what happens this year... [8|]
Hmm, I don't think your post is really worth responding to, but for the few new accusations you make I'll reply this time and likely ignore any future baseless accusations you make...
Nobody has voted for himself so far this year, didn't happen last year either, hmm.
Last year the winner was decided when the last vote was placed, late Dec. 31st, and I quote from the log (with e-mail address removed to protect the voter):
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someaddress@aol.com 172.137.162.8 Vote - Vote successful. Dale Hillier Ed Ladner 2005-12-31 18:30:36
There was no conspiracy to win Brad the award, he won it by getting the most votes via one vote per voter.
No two votes came from the same IP address last year (nor so far this year). In fact every vote in 2005 was from a separate Class B address (i.e. multiple Comcast votes from 24.xxx.yyy.zzz but no two from 24.xxx). Same deal so far this year.
Actually 2005 saw a very close vote on the individual Pooner award, Brad won, Herman was 3 votes behind, Dale and Ed were each 4 votes behind. Not rigged and not a landslide (well, Ed did whip Herman hands down for the lifetime Pooner win).
As for kokos (I generally know who you mean but have no need to avoid naming them), at the #harpgamer IRC channel most are welcome, I welcome everyone including yourself but some of my more realistic partners (HarpGamer has 4 co-founders, Brad, Bruce, Fred, Tony) will kick a few people without much question, for past antics. Anyway, this has nothing to do with the voting but I will support and stand up for anyone defending and furthering Harpoon. Herman gets my support at times and my scowl at times [&:]. He comes to #harpgamer looking for multiplayer games and has brought more people into multiplayer H3 games than anyone else. I really do wish others would take advantage of the server I offer up and the facilities for meeting other players HarpGamer provides. Herman has the time and makes the effort, I have the computing resources and not the time, the resources will support more new players and Herman can always use help in introducing people to the game. Nothing says that anyone from HHQ can't come and initiate new players on the Stratsims server and I have made it known on IRC that I hope you do make use of the server.
Frans shows up now and again mainly looking for a multiplayer game at 1:1 compression... Frans has taken his beatings at #harpgamer for criticisms of the USA and certain WWII events as well but he isn't banned, even disagreeable stances are okay here with few restrictions (no camping unless you are an op, no swearing, no wildly off topic banter when there is an on-topic conversation).
Maybe Brad is a koko too in your book, he just slaves away at HCDB and helping others with databases (Rene included, who quite excellently is doing a dandy job of getting us all as much HCCE as possible for release).
I may as well be a koko as well, after all, I stand up for the little guy who defends the game in the face of an onslaught, sometimes that crosses paths with you, and sometimes it agrees with you (times which you'll note we don't hear about in public, making HC database structure changes for Ragnar, H3 dbEdit changes for Dale, playing nice <most of the time, Mike has a way of getting to me> with Mike when he helps with HC bug verification and entry). Not to mention when no one is looking I'm supporting AGSI by answering code inquiries, feeding step by step fixes to the coders, answering support questions that don't get answered by others, etc. Shame on me for playing and supporting both games, I must deserve a special place in purgatory for that?
Any kokos I missed, perhaps you favor Reckall, sadly haven't seen him in a while, everyone comes with a different perspective and I like that. Pete Maidhof, amazingly stand-up guy, frequent visitor, has led me to learn more about H4 paper than I would have made it thru alone, and he tests for Stratsims, plays our Harpoon scenarios, and would probably offer up his kidney if most anyone needed it. Pete is one of those guys who could win a Pooner if more people saw all of the work he does. I assume Brains (aka Frank) isn't a koko. He is the void which sucks up all chatter on channel and spits out brilliant observations every now and then.
Some of us dare offer an alternative to HHQ and the turn this thread has taken makes it apparent why.