US vs France 12/42

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US vs France 12/42

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I've just started a US Army campaign in 12/42 in north africa. Now evrything would be great... the mission is a beach assault vs .... YES the French Army Image . Now Im not so great at history, but I just cant remember something like that happening Image ??

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Post by sven »

Umm I am guessing the game is simulating the opponent list for TORCH. We did have some skirmishes with those fine, noble, brave Vichyites.<abject sarcasm> Seriously it's not out of line.

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Originally posted by Alex:
I've just started a US Army campaign in 12/42 in north africa. Now evrything would be great... the mission is a beach assault vs .... YES the French Army Image . Now Im not so great at history, but I just cant remember something like that happening Image ??

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Post by Colonel Klink »

i'm getting ready to start a similar campaign.. us 11/42 which starts with the invasion of morocco.. vichy held territory. my question is whether or not i will actually see french units (i'm guessing so) and if they will be vichy. i didn't see a seperate vichy army under the nations list but i could be blind. I certainly hope i don't meet up with too much german stuff until i cross into tunisia.
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Post by Tombstone »

Yah, our first opponents in North Africa were the french. It wasn't a huge fight or anything and diplomatic solutions we're resolved soon after. It wasn't until we got closer to Tunis that things got dicey.

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Post by albert »

The British fought a more serious campaign against the Vichy French in Syria before the Torch landings. The French navy had lost several battleships to British attacks at various ports in southern France and French North Africa so the campaign you're fighting is at least plausible/
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Post by troopie »

French fought French in Syria as well. Most notably a battle, forgot the name, where two Foreign Legion units fought each other. After the battle, which the Free French won, those Legionnaires who wished to were returned to France, the rest were taken in to the Free French Foreign Legion, where they served with honour.

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Post by Alex »

Thanks guys... I didnt know.

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Post by JR »

Originally posted by troopie:
French fought French in Syria as well. Most notably a battle, forgot the name, where two Foreign Legion units fought each other. After the battle, which the Free French won, those Legionnaires who wished to were returned to France, the rest were taken in to the Free French Foreign Legion, where they served with honour.

troopie

Partly because of all this, the french were not too keen on rejoining the Allied, and some french considered De Gaulle a treaitor.

During the opening stages of Torch the british partisipation was toned down, and the american part emphasised. All senior british officers were kept in the background, and it were american officers who were negotiating with the Vichy forces.

I have even seen pictures of british planes marked with american markings for Torch.

All this was done in order to avoid raising bad feelings among the french, and make it less likly that the Vichy forces in North Africa should choose to put up a prolonged fight.

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