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stldiver
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Chinese Clear Path to Canton

Post by stldiver »

Once again the Chinese forces cheer, as they push two damaged divisions and a Bde back to Canton, the 1st day they achieved 2 to 1 and pushed 1 bde and 1 division, then second day 10 to 1 and the HQ and last partial division retreated. The road is open to Canton, Wuchow is surrounded. My troops in Changsa are recovered and ready to move out. I have encircled his troops in Chengting and only Base forces and minor speed bumps block my way to Peking.

As to the aircraft Patrick has adjusted, yes he has increased on both sides. I also agree the Japanese should be winning now, I play the game more by feel then exact numbers and so far it feels correct, maybe a little lopsided but no complaints as that happened in the real war at this stage. My main comment was we will have to see how the allied planes do later, as once again I cannot tell from the numbers only when they start falling from the sky. And I had no idea the Nate was the twisty little bugger it was.

PI, Manila holds a 0-1 looks like he just ran out of supply for all those troops by is adjusted attack. Also fort level went back to 2 :0).
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/05/42
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ASW attack near Norfolk Island at 60,119

Japanese Ships
SS I-29, hits 9, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Jupiter
DD Thracian
DD Tenedos
DD Scout


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Ground combat at Manila

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 251949 troops, 2220 guns, 562 vehicles, Assault Value = 4335

Defending force 52449 troops, 227 guns, 87 vehicles, Assault Value = 908

Japanese max assault: 218 - adjusted assault: 62 [:D] Looks like no supply

Allied max defense: 837 - adjusted defense: 3409

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 2) Fort level back to 2


Japanese ground losses:
1123 casualties reported
Guns lost 19
Vehicles lost 10

Allied ground losses:
1025 casualties reported
Guns lost 17
Vehicles lost 1


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Ground combat at Chengting

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 65823 troops, 632 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 1222

Defending force 59245 troops, 396 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1434



Allied ground losses:
57 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Homan

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 36214 troops, 492 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2811

Defending force 47171 troops, 343 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1247



Allied ground losses:
40 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Homan

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 8146 troops, 61 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1247

Defending force 140715 troops, 1683 guns, 3 vehicles, Assault Value = 2811


Japanese ground losses:
4 casualties reported


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Ground combat at 43,40

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 61085 troops, 399 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1726

Defending force 36964 troops, 315 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 533

Allied max assault: 3466 - adjusted assault: 1567

Japanese max defense: 521 - adjusted defense: 713

Allied assault odds: 2 to 1


Japanese ground losses: [:)] One division and one Bde retreat
181 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Allied ground losses:
2757 casualties reported
Guns lost 74


Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

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Ground combat at Wuchow

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 10143 troops, 71 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1813

Defending force 73407 troops, 635 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 1289


Japanese ground losses:
6 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Chengting

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 10569 troops, 66 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1433

Defending force 65823 troops, 632 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 1222


Japanese ground losses:
36 casualties reported
Guns lost 2


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Ground combat at Manila

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 2889 troops, 61 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 864

Defending force 250497 troops, 2179 guns, 551 vehicles, Assault Value = 4244


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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/06/42


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Day Air attack on Dutch Harbor , at 103,36

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 14
Ki-49 Helen x 16

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49 Helen: 5 destroyed, 6 damaged

Allied aircraft losses


Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 9

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 1000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 1000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 1000 feet
2 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 1000 feet
2 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 1000 feet

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Ground combat at Manila

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 221321 troops, 2195 guns, 41 vehicles, Assault Value = 4338

Defending force 51406 troops, 209 guns, 84 vehicles, Assault Value = 876



Allied ground losses:
74 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at Chengting

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 66219 troops, 632 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 1240

Defending force 78580 troops, 531 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2046



Allied ground losses:
97 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Homan

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 36372 troops, 493 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2832

Defending force 56421 troops, 420 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1543



Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at Homan

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 8185 troops, 61 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1543

Defending force 141250 troops, 1687 guns, 3 vehicles, Assault Value = 2832


Japanese ground losses:
14 casualties reported


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Ground combat at 43,40

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 58181 troops, 308 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1660

Defending force 11191 troops, 77 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 165

Allied max assault: 2478 - adjusted assault: 1582

Japanese max defense: 171 - adjusted defense: 155

Allied assault odds: 10 to 1


Japanese ground losses: The last partial division routed
209 casualties reported
Guns lost 6

Allied ground losses:
281 casualties reported
Guns lost 3


Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

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Ground combat at Wuchow

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 10132 troops, 71 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1814

Defending force 73488 troops, 641 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 1292


Japanese ground losses:
19 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Chengting

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 10615 troops, 67 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2046 Reinforcments will hold this one

Defending force 66219 troops, 632 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 1240



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Ground combat at Manila

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 2889 troops, 61 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 875

Defending force 252079 troops, 2195 guns, 557 vehicles, Assault Value = 4338


Japanese ground losses:
15 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
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Japan Surrenders Today, this game is OVER

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To save lives the Emperor has ordered all Japanese land and sea forces to stop fighting as of today.  This is due to the current hopeless situation in China, which is completely out of control.  Never have I seen such a skilled defense that turned into an offense with Japan losing.  I cannot withdrawal troops from locations in China where I am in contact and thus have hundreds of thousands of soldiers trapped like flies on fly paper and they will not move.  One major army is surrounded and there will soon be another surrounded.  The only option I have is to send in the Southern Army to try and change the situation, and most of it is still in the PI. Also, any operations in China will take months, and leaving Burma as is, and thus allowing the British a strong foothold there, and so it all just compounds itself.  I just wish I could see the allied side of the map and units.  Tim played a very good game, and I found several things to adjust in my Mod, so thanks for playing.
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RE: Japan Surrenders Today, this game is OVER

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The War is Over,

The Chinese have brought the Imperialist Japanese forces to their knees. The United States is moved to the status of a minor power, for its lack of effectivness in the war. Soon the Chinese will dominate the world politically and economically. Oh, getting ahead of myself by about 60 years.

I have truly enjoyed the game with Patrick, he has been both fair and an extremly competant and capable opponent. The two key to success for the Chinese are supply and experiance, with both they become a formidable opponent. As the war has come to an end the Chinese army has both. Most units experiance is minimum mid 50's with most in the 60's to 70's and climbing a few almost 80's. Morale is good for most units, and those that have been busted earlier near Nanchang have recovered very well at Changsa. I was fortunate in capturing over 45K supply at Nanchang and Chengting allowing my forces to continue their operations and recover quicker.

The only counter for supply is to bomb the chinese supply sources, or capture. This I feel stagnates the front, as the Chinese have enough to hold ground and play defense. This was also why I moved the AVG here (although ineffective) and would have moved more fighters to counter.
For every action there is a counter action, whether one is ready to go down that path is the option.

Patrick wondered why I invaded Akyab, and it was soley for the Chinese front. It tied him down longer from going for Mandalay and cutting off the ground route of supplies to china. Of course I was not going to state this during the war. China was a minor theatre to him. But it was a major theatre for me. Thus I lavished a lot of time planning and moving and his eye's were elsewhere.

The 3 key factors for me in China was the capture of Nanchang, forcing Patrick from his operations, 2) The liberation of those trapped units near Nanchang. 3) While his forces involved there, the combining of Human's and Yunan's armies to capture Chengting, and eventually traping an army there laying to road to Peking open.

I will take a few weeks off as I have still one PBEM going (current Dec 5th 1942) before I seek another game. Here is a map of China at the wars end.


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RE: Japan Surrenders Today, this game is OVER

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Well, that certainly is an interesting outcome and very much in keeping with the belief that those Allied players who do poorly in China do poorly more because of their play than any sort of pre-determination.
 
Congratulations to both for a good game but especially to stldiver for the singular outcome.
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RE: Japan Surrenders Today, this game is OVER

Post by ctangus »

I have similiar thoughts as Nemo. Since I'm a China fanboy I have to also say congrats stldiver on the victory!

Looks like it was a fun game for both, too.
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