Man in Motion Rules and Gameplay Issues

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firebirds
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RE: man in motion

Post by firebirds »

Brockleigh, you hit the nail on the head [;)]

Literally anything you find on the net regarding NFL rules is extremely scaled down. The NFL does not provide the entire rule book on the net, and IMHO never will. The reason being, why should they give it to you when you can buy it at any bookstore . . . which of course means more money in the league's pocket.

GW, I did do some searching and found the most complete set of rules I've ever found. Here is a link that discusses the ineligable receiver reporting rule and the referee's requirements. Please see Rule 7, Section 2, Article 3 and please be sure to read Supplemental Note 4. I'm sure that with your vast knowledge of football and your years of practical experience you will be able to tie the parts of this rule together to help you better understand what you have been seeing all these years.

http://stlouisrams.net/rules/NFLrules7.htm

I look forward to your comments.

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RE: man in motion

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[font="courier new"]Brockleigh[/font][font="courier new"],[/font]
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[font="courier new"] If it is not official NFL/CFB Div. 1A's rules committees’ members' Personal E-Mail or Letter Reply or Publication or Webpage (URL), then it is not a reliable source.[/font]
The NFL rulebook I've picked up in the library and Chapters looks like War & Peace. That Digest, when printed out, looks like a pamphlet.


[font="courier new"]First, it is called laziness and short-sidedness by the broadcasting companies and The NFL and CFB Div. 1A ([;)], my idea of referees in the broadcasting booths). By the way did you see the bowl game (forget which one) that invited a retired CFB referee into the broadcasting booth?[:)]

Lastly, I will have to check-out my local public library. Was it the '2006 version?

firebirds,

As we have discovered that at least some of the rules are based on referees' interpretation (not those outside of The NFL and The NFL trains their referees to make better interpretations), thus, only NFL's referees and NFL's rules committee know for sure. Also, as some of us have discovered, in these MF discussions, not all the rules and there interpretation to all situations are included in NFL digest and CFB Div. 1A online rulebook. Heck, if you watch enough games of CFB Div. 1A and NFL you will find that some situations that come up the CFB Div. 1A Programs and NFL Franchises do not know the rules that apply, let alone the those of the broadcasting companies.
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RE: man in motion

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Great White, here is a link the NCAA 2006 Football Rules And Interpretations. I hope that when you look and the address you will consider the source to be reliable. Please notice that it is a 253 page document and I'm sure that once you start reading it you will find that what Brockleigh said is true. As I mentioned in my earlier post, you will not find anything like this for the NFL on the internet.


http://www.ncaa.org/library/rules/2006/ ... _rules.pdf
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RE: man in motion

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[font="courier new"]firebirds[/font][font="courier new"],[/font]
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[font="courier new"]           As you should know we (many of us MF members) have been there. What you posted proves what I was saying in my post; now that I am realized forgot to post my last point in my previous post and after I post that last point. Thanks for making me realize I forgot that point.[/font]
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RE: man in motion

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http://stlouisrams.net/rules/NFLrules7.htm

I look forward to your comments.

 
Those rules look familiar. [:)]
 
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RE: man in motion

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Great White, the editing of your posts - especially after comments have been made - is really bad form [:-]

To be honest, I am now completely confused as to where you stand. Not only in your understanding on the point of discussion, eligibility of a receiver and associated requirements, but also what you require as valid proof of a view point different than yours. As I remember correctly, you were in error regarding certain NCAA rules and you refused to believe others when they tried to straighten out the confusion because they were not providing suitable references for your liking. That is exactly why I provided the link for the NCAA Rules and Interpretations. Silly me, I assumed you would have at least read the section regarding receiver eligibility and motion to get a firm grasp of the rule(s) which sould have confirmed what others were telling you. Instead you go to a previous post and edit it, then reply that what I provided proves your point. What in the world is that supposed to mean??? The same goes for your NFL issues.

You have stated your vast experience and knowledge regarding football. You also stated that you just might have one of the longer tenures in following the game since you started watching football in the 1979 season. In my case, by the time you watched your first season of football my favorite NFL team - which I had been following for 14 years - had already played in 5 Super Bowls and won 3 of them. As a matter of fact I have been following football longer than your beloved Miami Dolphins have been in existance. I would like to strongly suggest that you accept the fact that there are others who visit and post here that just might have followed football longer and know more about the game than you do. And maybe it is ok to take somebody's word as being correct without indisputable proof, especially when there are so many others that agree with them. Furthermore you might be better off to go out of your way to prove your point rather than make others prove you wrong where all the while you immediately dismiss and/or ignore their efforts to do exactly what you have asked them to do.

I'm not trying to start a fight/arguement with you or "make your blood boil". I enjoy a good debate as much as anybody but there are certain rules of etiquette and fair play that should be followed.
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RE: man in motion

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Hear, hear.
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