Akyab - and then?

Saburo Sakai · Post by **Saburo Sakai** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 11:23 am

I occupied Akyab and most part of Burma. The date is april 1942.

Now I'd lilke to continue my expansion but I don't know if it's better to proceed directly into India, towards Chittagong and Dacca or to try to capture Ceylon first, to cut off RN.
What do you think guys? Philippines and DEI are in my hands, Port Moresby and New Caledonia too, so I have a lot of free divisions.

DuckofTindalos · Post by **DuckofTindalos** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 11:31 am

Take Ceylon. It secures your seaward flank...

Ian R · Post by **Ian R** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 11:50 am

ORIGINAL: Terminus

Take Ceylon. It secures your seaward flank...

And then head straight up the coast to Bombay and Karachi and really stuff the Briish empire. If all goes well you'll bve marching North to Assam and China in 1943. [;)]

DuckofTindalos · Post by **DuckofTindalos** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 11:53 am

Hey, he asked...[:D]

Ian R · Post by **Ian R** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 1:12 pm

I dream of advancing north over the Burma Road and  triumphantly entering Kunming from the south astride a white stallion.
 
And then moving some stuff in China out to the defensive crust of the GEACPS, particularly the highly trained pilots to be 90 exp kamikazes [:D]
 
 

DuckofTindalos · Post by **DuckofTindalos** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 1:23 pm

Good luck with that...

Ian R · Post by **Ian R** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 1:43 pm

Well you only have to sink about 20 carriers to win the war. 26 if you include the BPF but they wouldn't be turning up (unless they pop up in Sydney instead or something)
 
 

DuckofTindalos · Post by **DuckofTindalos** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 2:07 pm

So? Is this a problem?

Seriously, others have successfully invaded Ceylon, but it does take some doing. Early-to-mid 42 is probably a good time for it, before the RN gets too powerful and the IJN takes too many losses.

Ian R · Post by **Ian R** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 2:52 pm

No trouble with 90 experience kamikazes.
 
I also don't think Sri Lanka is particularly well garrisoned at that early stage - unless the allied player moved something there especially -  and its one of those big islands where you can land next to the base and attack along the coast if you need to.  Saburo is well ahead of schedule so I think he should go for it.

tsimmonds · Post by **tsimmonds** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 4:36 pm

Definitely Ceylon. Taking Ceylon makes it extremely difficult if not impossible for the Allied player to move ships between Aden/Bombay/Karachi on the one hand and Calcutta/Diamond Harbor on the other. Then you have pretty much free rein in the Bay of Bengal.

Saburo Sakai · Post by **Saburo Sakai** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 5:33 pm

ORIGINAL: irrelevant

Definitely Ceylon. Taking Ceylon makes it extremely difficult if not impossible for the Allied player to move ships between Aden/Bombay/Karachi on the one hand and Calcutta/Diamond Harbor on the other. Then you have pretty much free rein in the Bay of Bengal.

I'm a little worried about Colombo and Trincomalee fortification. And, by the way, I suppose it's better to land in Colombo right?

DuckofTindalos · Post by **DuckofTindalos** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 5:33 pm

Probably, but not necessarily. Depends on a lot of factors...

Mike Solli · Post by **Mike Solli** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 5:44 pm

I'd take the Andaman Islands.  Build the airfield up to level 4 and station a couple daitai each of Zero and Nell/Betties.  Add a few Mavis/Emily.  You can make the area into an Axis lake.

tsimmonds · Post by **tsimmonds** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 5:50 pm

ORIGINAL: Saburo Sakai

ORIGINAL: irrelevant

Definitely Ceylon. Taking Ceylon makes it extremely difficult if not impossible for the Allied player to move ships between Aden/Bombay/Karachi on the one hand and Calcutta/Diamond Harbor on the other. Then you have pretty much free rein in the Bay of Bengal.

I'm a little worried about Colombo and Trincomalee fortification. And, by the way, I suppose it's better to land in Colombo right?

I took Ceylon once landing at Trinco and marching overland to Colombo. Depends on what map you're using. At least one map has a trail through a mountain hex. I wouldn't care to march through that.

Don't forget to bring minesweepers!

It's a big op, will take a lot of planning.[;)]

I'd take the Andaman Islands.

I'm assuming that you already have done this.

Saburo Sakai · Post by **Saburo Sakai** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 6:46 pm

ORIGINAL: irrelevant

ORIGINAL: Saburo Sakai

ORIGINAL: irrelevant

Definitely Ceylon. Taking Ceylon makes it extremely difficult if not impossible for the Allied player to move ships between Aden/Bombay/Karachi on the one hand and Calcutta/Diamond Harbor on the other. Then you have pretty much free rein in the Bay of Bengal.

I'm a little worried about Colombo and Trincomalee fortification. And, by the way, I suppose it's better to land in Colombo right?
I took Ceylon once landing at Trinco and marching overland to Colombo. Depends on what map you're using. At least one map has a trail through a mountain hex. I wouldn't care to march through that.

Don't forget to bring minesweepers!

It's a big op, will take a lot of planning.[;)]

I'd take the Andaman Islands.

I'm assuming that you already have done this.

Oh yes. I've already done a month ago.

I'm using CHS mode with AB extended map.

PetrOs · Post by **PetrOs** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 6:53 pm

I usually take Ceylon first, then land some 8-10 divisions at Karachi. Usually in august 42 - can gather enough troops until then, and have some Tony/Tojo squadrons to finally use good army pilots effectively. Actually, never landing on a base directly, but always on a coastal road if possible. Goes slower, but no losses to coastal arty/defences. 2 Daitais Zeros A6M2 for long range escort, 2 Sentais Tony or Tojo for base defence and short-range escort, 2 Daitais Nell/Betty, and 2-3 Sentais Anns/Marys/Sallys/Helens for dive/skip bombing at Ceilon - enough to block and sink most of the british fleet. Similar amount of air force is in reserve/ground support.
 
Troops I use - I march 5-8 China area divisions (replaced in turn by 10 mongolian cavalry divisions from manchuria - ideal china garrison troops) to relieve the (loadable) troops in Lashio/Mandalay/Rangoon, and gather most troops from philippines/burma area/DEI, and reassign 1-2 divisions from home defence for this attack. Its about some 12-14 movable divisions and/or strong brigades. One or two other divisions, and 2-3 brigades can be still operated in the solomons/Fiji/Pago Pago area.
 
After sweeping the India completely by mid-43, I leave a few troops there, and make a landing at the australian north coast.... By this time, austraila is low on supply, due to a massed Betty/Nell presence in Wallis/Tongatapu/Canton Is./Pago Pago/Tarawa, sinking most inbound transport flow.....
 
 

DuckofTindalos · Post by **DuckofTindalos** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 7:06 pm

Uh-huh... That's a lot of Political Points...

PetrOs · Post by **PetrOs** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 7:26 pm

Well, yeah
However, mongolians are just marched there, not reassigned
also the divisions replacing the burma area ones are still china area.... just marched over the coastal railroad/road
some troops participating in the landing are southern area, some burma area - no reassignments here too...
really reassigned is only 1-2 home defence division, followed by 1-2 china area ones in late 42/early 43
Plus reassignment of aircraft.

It really leaves DEI and phillipines naked, only protected by the base forces...

However, I was damn lucky in that game, and by 44 i had ALL my carriers operational, havent lost any, and sinking all incoming US ones... as it was an AI game on very hard, and AI was throwing them in by 1-2 apiece.... 8 big carriers to fight the americans off, and all small/escort ones as india invasion support.
Also using 7 battleships (Yamato, both Nagatos and all 4 Kongos in 2 TFs) for fire support in india... makes quite a difference if fighting for a coastal city.. average of 2000 killed troops per TF per bombardment....

Mike Solli · Post by **Mike Solli** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 8:05 pm

Not sure about the mods, but in stock the Mongolian Cav Divisions are all part of the China Army, not Kwantung.

fabertong · Post by **fabertong** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 8:12 pm

ORIGINAL: Mike Solli

Not sure about the mods, but in stock the Mongolian Cav Divisions are all part of the China Army, not Kwantung.

Shock...horror....Mike in CHS the Mong.Cav.Divs. are Kwantung............

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