Standardized Artwork Set

[TOMLABEL]

ORIGINAL: Dixie

ORIGINAL: Big B

S-weet John!

All you Camo Demons out there - get your paint programs warmed up![;)]

Very nice, Dixie! I'm ready to throw some blue on the USN ships as soon as they are released!

TOMLABEL

[Apollo11]

Hi all,

Oustanding work - fantastic!

BTW, IMHO, the extra cammo is not needed and I prefer the way you already did it.


Leo "Apollo11"

[undercovergeek]

RELEASE THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Seriously, looking very, very professional! I sit here, perched like a vulture, waiting for the, 'theyre now available at' post!!

[JSBoomer]

Will there be two sets? One with and one without cammo?

[Akos Gergely]

Dixie!

Please give us more of this, it looks seriously good!!! Awesome!!!

[Dixie]

ORIGINAL: csatahajos

Dixie!

Please give us more of this, it looks seriously good!!! Awesome!!!

Hmm, OK but only 'cos you asked so nicely [:)]. Here's the RN and Japanese Battleships and the French Richelieu. Hopefully Tom Label will release his USN stuff he's already done.

[JSBoomer]

Outstanding! [&o][&o] Dixie, your art on your web page is great as well. Do you think that you might standardised sized versions of your what-if art as well (IE Ark Royal)?

[Dixie]

And some RN cruisers. The ships will be taking a back seat for a few days whilst I sort some planes for Freman.
The London 1944 refit represents HMS Devonshire and HMS Sussex after they had X turret and catapult replaced with more AAA.

[Dixie]

ORIGINAL: J Boomer

Outstanding! [&o][&o] Dixie, your art on your web page is great as well. Do you think that you might standardised sized versions of your what-if art as well (IE Ark Royal)?

Yes, that is on the to do list. The cruisers currently on the page are slightly out of scale at the moment. They were done to the 'old' scale of 4' per pixel.

[JSBoomer]

I wasn't a great fan of the Cammo however that set of cruisers in cammo is great!

[undercovergeek]

sexy looking ships - top work

[JWE]

ORIGINAL: J Boomer

Will there be two sets? One with and one without cammo?

Actually Boomer, not .. really. Having said that the better answer is .. yes .. kinda.

At the risk of repeating myself, this project is in response to a customer request; a standardized art set where all the art is 'consistent', in that it has similar hue and brightness characteristics, has a uniform 'relative scale', and is generally uniform in color, in that the detail of each ship is clearly visible and she is identifyable on a uniform background set.

Other styles are valid, but irrelevant. This is what the customer requested and the customer has declined to entertain other depictions. I must say I agree with the customer. I like having a basis from which all things evolve.

Phase 1 of the project is to create a 'stock' art replacement set that uses the talents of the WiTP artistic community to develop an art set that can replace the 'official' images. That is being done.

For phase 2 we have been asked to expand our work to accommodate, for example, CHS, add ships, add upgrade options, all dependant on the imperitives of the database. This will necessarily include some repainting.

Phase x involves the individuals who have contributed to this project. We are all willing and able to create a 'beaut' for ourselves, and make her available to all of you. This is on an individual basis. It is nice to have a standardized, scaled, set from which to work. It makes life very easy.

For example, below are 3 Baltimores. It took me 17 seconds to do a measure 41 paint job on her and 31 seconds to do the atrocious dazzle job. If I took about 2 minutes, I would have squared all the edges and made it look better, but the thrust of this is that overlaying a 'cammo' pattern on one of our standard ships is 'so easy a caveman could do it'.

Long answer to your question, but necessary I think. This project isn't a cammo v not-cammo issue, and I wish the contention would cease. It is peurile and unnecessary. Later-war images can be (and absolutely will be) easily accommodated by once the basis designs are completed.

JWE

[JSBoomer]

I actually prefer the non camo ship shides JWE, however some of the ship sides shown thus far have camo so I was wondering is all. For me there is no contention, I think what you guys are is great and am eagerly looking forward to the finnished results. As for the caveman comment, thanks, now I feel like the guy in the Geico (sp?) commercials.[:D] I agree with the idea of a standardized set and appreciate that those of you with some talent are sharing your work with those of us who are not artists. My question was not ment to be an advocation of camo vs non-camo; the camo pics on the thread had me wondering. Thank you for the update on what you fellows are working on though, I'm glad to hear that CHS and others will be added to the set as well. Keep up the great work, do them however you wish (beggers cannot be choosers) , and thank you for all the time you guys have put into this project. And stop trying to obfuscate the situation with strange words like peurile.[;)]
As I said earlier, your project is great, can't wait to see the finnished product.

Thanks

[Apollo11]

Hi all,

Last year I posted this to main forum and to wish list... I hope/wish something like this can be easily adopted... it would be great eye-candy...


What if the Joe and Don would change the code to allow several pictures for same ship class?


In other words something very simple can be used:

#1
If there is just one picture used for ship class - that picture would be used all the time (i.e. as it is now):

AnSidexxxx.bmp
AnShilxxxx.bmp
JnSidexxxx.bmp
JnShilxxxx.nmp

NOTE: xxxx is number corresponding to the ship class in question.

#2
If there are more than one picture used for ship class - then pictures would be used according to date added to file name:

AnSidexxxxDDMMYY.bmp
AnShilxxxxDDMMYY.bmp
JnSidexxxxDDMMYY.bmp
JnShilxxxxDDMMYY.nmp

NOTE: xxxx is number corresponding to the ship class in question.

If date is reached then the appropriate picture is used (DD = day, MM = month , YY = year)!

Simple and effective!!!



Leo "Apollo11"

[JWE]

ORIGINAL: J Boomer

I actually prefer the non camo ship shides JWE, however some of the ship sides shown thus far have camo so I was wondering is all. For me there is no contention, I think what you guys are is great and am eagerly looking forward to the finnished results. As for the caveman comment, thanks, now I feel like the guy in the Geico (sp?) commercials.[:D] I agree with the idea of a standardized set and appreciate that those of you with some talent are sharing your work with those of us who are not artists. My question was not ment to be an advocation of camo vs non-camo; the camo pics on the thread had me wondering. Thank you for the update on what you fellows are working on though, I'm glad to hear that CHS and others will be added to the set as well. Keep up the great work, do them however you wish (beggers cannot be choosers) , and thank you for all the time you guys have put into this project. And stop trying to obfuscate the situation with strange words like peurile.[;)]
As I said earlier, your project is great, can't wait to see the finnished product.

Thanks

Hi Boomer,

I understand, now, where you are coming from. My only point was that we are in a particular mode right now, fulfilling a particular customer request. As soon as that's done, the individuals will make other versions because it's 'caveman easy' for us to do so. I know TomLabel, for example, likes to have lots of different BB pics. So don't despair; the present run is just episcapatory.

Ciao. JWE

[undercovergeek]

are we nearly there yet?????
 
are there some plans for IJN btw???
 
Great looking work

[JWE]

ORIGINAL: undercovergeek

are we nearly there yet?????

are there some plans for IJN btw???

Great looking work

Yes.

Yes.

Thanks.

We're done with the ship art. What we have to do now is evaluate the background set and determine which ship goes on what background. This has turned out to be almost as important as the ship art itself. Background color level, location of cloud patterns, contrast tilt and height, all play a part in 'showing' a ship well. Each of the ships are looked at with respect to 8 slightly different backgrounds and the best one chosen. Time consuming, yes, but ultimately satisfying (I hope). Output is a matter of days (not weeks). Patience is a virtue, Prudence is a girl in Riverside.

Ciao. JWE

[Cathartes]

I have never cared much for the girl in Riverside but her sister that is a virtue is tolerable if you know what you're getting.  In this case we know what we're getting and we are most pleased. 

Yes, ultimately satisfying. Certainty eclipses Hope in this case(who would otherwise makes us anxious).  Hope would be distantly related to Prudence though she often leads us astray or causes us to go blind.

Thank you, thank you for this collective effort.

[GaryChildress]

ORIGINAL: JWE

ORIGINAL: J Boomer

Will there be two sets? One with and one without cammo?

Actually Boomer, not .. really. Having said that the better answer is .. yes .. kinda.

At the risk of repeating myself, this project is in response to a customer request; a standardized art set where all the art is 'consistent', in that it has similar hue and brightness characteristics, has a uniform 'relative scale', and is generally uniform in color, in that the detail of each ship is clearly visible and she is identifyable on a uniform background set.

Other styles are valid, but irrelevant. This is what the customer requested and the customer has declined to entertain other depictions. I must say I agree with the customer. I like having a basis from which all things evolve.

Phase 1 of the project is to create a 'stock' art replacement set that uses the talents of the WiTP artistic community to develop an art set that can replace the 'official' images. That is being done.

For phase 2 we have been asked to expand our work to accommodate, for example, CHS, add ships, add upgrade options, all dependant on the imperitives of the database. This will necessarily include some repainting.

Phase x involves the individuals who have contributed to this project. We are all willing and able to create a 'beaut' for ourselves, and make her available to all of you. This is on an individual basis. It is nice to have a standardized, scaled, set from which to work. It makes life very easy.

For example, below are 3 Baltimores. It took me 17 seconds to do a measure 41 paint job on her and 31 seconds to do the atrocious dazzle job. If I took about 2 minutes, I would have squared all the edges and made it look better, but the thrust of this is that overlaying a 'cammo' pattern on one of our standard ships is 'so easy a caveman could do it'.

Long answer to your question, but necessary I think. This project isn't a cammo v not-cammo issue, and I wish the contention would cease. It is peurile and unnecessary. Later-war images can be (and absolutely will be) easily accommodated by once the basis designs are completed.

JWE

Wow! Now that's what a ship side should look like, much better than those stock blobs! Nice camo job BTW also!

I'm glad you guys are doing this project. Matrix needs to hire you all to do the art for the next incarnation of WitP (yes I'm still hoping and praying that a new improved WitP comes out).

[undercovergeek]

reassuring to know each and every aspect is been honed and perfected.
 
i have a generic background i usually use, and some flags i usually add on - i wait with patience - shes nice