Might as well get this off my chest.

[Titanwarrior89]

I myself had no problem with the price. I want the Gang at Matrix to stay in business. I don't think they are making a killing off the price of the game.


Besides they are "Gamers for Gamers, and you can't beat that in my book.[:D]

[Boar]

To me this is not just the same game reloaded, it's an extra-value, feature-packed game with the added (very valuable) bonus of a reworking of the AI,
the whole range of values, from armor to cover, and all of it done by some of the very folks who've provided mods and insight over all these years
to keeping this game in circulation. I just installed and played a bit of an operation. Worked like a charm and battles against the AI feel quite different. I'm sure it
will be fun to play with live opponents, and connectivity is improved and even built into the game "HQ" so that opponents can be readily found.

Excellent job, and well worth the $40 in my humble opinion. To compare another recent game (don't throw rocks, please), I bought "Titan Quest" and had lots of
fun with the pretty scenery and objects and after one campaign put it down and haven't picked it back up. That was a disposable $50 or so. I'm sure I'll be coming back
time and again to play COI.

[FeurerKrieg]

No problem on price for me. Easy to say these days, but 15 years ago I would have been complaining since I didn't have $40 to spend on a game.

If I'm driving a nice car, got two Ipods, and cable internet - I think I can spring a $40 one-time-cost for a game to help encourage the the Matrix/CSO guys to doa rework of CC2 and beyond.

Just like I'd pay $100 to pre-order a copy of WITP 2, if it meant the game would actually be created.

[Marc von Martial]

ORIGINAL: Kung Karl

ORIGINAL: Marc Schwanebeck

ORIGINAL: Kung Karl

......

Matrix games is very expensive for us europeans compared to retail stores. It is as simle as that.

Well excuse me but games prices vary from 39€ (cheap) to 69€ (expensive) in "Europe", including VAT of course. Less then 39€ you will have to be pretty lucky to get a new game for, unless it is used.

I have PM you with a link to a store wich sells new games for under 30€ even and that is including shipping, no extre fees at all.

Of course you can always dig up online shops that run specials for games, my fav games shop here in my town does that also. However, this (and also on the site you PMed) are not the suggested retail prices by the publishers. That is all what counts when you want to compare prices. You can hardly use a "bargain price" for comparison.

With specials there is hardly any money the developers or publisher make from the sale. And it might surprise people, we guys have to pay bills too. Think of your employer coming to you and tell you that next month will be feature an "employee special price". All employees will work for 50% of their regular income.

If certain retail outlets drop prices, then they have a plan. The either want clearance of the product or they gather for cross sales, or want to drag in new customers. If I look at the prices on the website you PMed then I see several games / products I can get elsewhere cheaper [;)]

With your example, please take the time to compare the special price on EUIII they have and compare the suggested retail price at the Paradox webshop.

On top of this, we offer niche market games. So we hardly make money with massive sales, like mainstream titles would do. This needs to be considered too when you compare prices. Check the price for a GMT board wargame and compare it to what a copy of Monopoly costs [;)]

[Kung Karl]

I wont argue your logic that recomended retailprices are higher than what games actually sells for in stores.
 
But, as far as EU3 goes, if I buy the game at recommended price I will pay 40€ and for that I will get a box and manual. That includes all taxes. From matrix I would have had to pay 40€ plus VAT wich make it a 17% more expensive. And that is often a digital download too so I will have to add an extra 10€ to get the box.
 
I do not say that Matrix does anything wrong with their prices. But it is a simple fact that the store is very expensive, for us europeans at least, compared to retail or other online stores.

[jbunnelle]

I used to love this game and am currently downloading the new version. I have no problem paying the $39 to support Matrix, although I'd make it more if this were East Front. [:D] But oh well....

[JudgeDredd]

It is East front, isn't it? [&:]

[Marc von Martial]

Yes, East Front

[Beeblebrox]

although I'd make it more if this were East Front. [:D]

Perhaps you may want to modify this statement in hindsight? On the other hand, here are my Swiss Bank Account details... [8D]

[Corporal_Remains]

ORIGINAL: Beeblebrox

although I'd make it more if this were East Front. [:D]

Perhaps you may want to modify this statement in hindsight? On the other hand, here are my Swiss Bank Account details... [8D]

Might mean Talonsoft East Front?

...also on the Matrix redo list.

[Beeblebrox]

Might mean Talonsoft East Front

Darn, it's a long time since I played that game...
 
No, you seemed to have offered to pay more if it was East Front, and far be it from me to try and dissuade you   Just kidding around....

[Titanwarrior89]

Its been a long time since Ive touched it myself. Things change and life moves on but some "old classics make their way back into the gamers hands.[:)]

[JudgeDredd]

ORIGINAL: Titanwarrior89
Its been a long time since Ive touched it myself

[X(]

[jbunnelle]

Man, you guys are crampin' my street cred. [:D] Yes, should have specified that I meant EAST FRONT as in the Campaign Series EF/WF/RS, which (hopefully) is somewhere on the near horizon. CCIII is great, but EF was my true addiction. The perfect computerized version of AH's PanzerBlitz, in my opinion.

[old man of the sea]

A $39 investment on future development of Close Combat is a no brainer the way I look at it.
 
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