Has anyone ever hit Manila for Opener?

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RE: Has anyone ever hit Manila for Opener?

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ORIGINAL: Mike Solli

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Don't forget too that the movement routine @ full speed often can allow a surface force to slip in and muck it up before getting blasted to hell by airpower so BB's can be even more of a threat. Rob the RRoberson did that to me in our 44' PBEM. Through a combination of timing and luck (my carriers failed to "find" the fat target sitting in the invasion hex due to weather) he was able to pull off a straight old fashioned surface battle and traded virtually 1:1 in BB's as a result....a better, more satisfying fate the RL IJN would have appreciated vs. the ignomity of being plastered by air without being able to retaliate.


Nik,you mention 44 campaign,my statement is that PH BB are USELESS in first part of 42.They are good only for target practice[8D].
Japan has a LOT of very good trained LBA and any less than decent Japanese player will prevent PH BB bombing of IMPORTANT bases,as i say those BBs can bombard Wake.. etc.
Yes,luck can be a factor,but not that big and if allied player is fool enough to sent BBs from Pearl anywhere west of 20 hex from Kwai. they are doomed.

Only relatively safe place that allied player can sent BBs is Australia.
All i want to say is that BBs has a very narrow place they can go against Japan in 1942.

Hawker, I agree with you but I'd say the max rang is 10-11 hexes from Kwajalein (max torp range for the Betty/Nell). Anything beyond that and they'll carry bombs which will just bounce off the BBs.

max torp range is 15!!! [:D] Though people tend to limit it to 11 hexes because that´s the range of the Zero for escort!
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check sneer vs raverdave - opening strategy focused on fast dei conquest 
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I'm still debating options.  Have to start the turn planning and will quite probably make-up my mind THEN. 
 
I have to admit that the Singapore option was not something I had given serious thought to...  I always imagine that PoW and Repulse will get sunk in the opening of hostilities anyway.  To sink them at the start...hmmm....
 
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RE: Has anyone ever hit Manila for Opener?

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Check my and KDonovan's AAR The Battle For New Jersey. I hit Manila on turn 1 and took the PI by the end of December and Singapore shortly thereafter.

Looking back I don't think it was the best move. I found coutermeasures to deal with the subs and am now getting plastered by BBs on bombardment missions. PH or Singapore may be a better idea.

Now if I can only ge Kenny to go for a rematch after he finishes kicking my @ss in 44-45.
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