I really have to say that I hate those f§%$%" bugs of this game

[castor troy]

ORIGINAL: dpstafford

ORIGINAL: castor troy
no this is another story. Could have cried about it on the forum but decided not to do that. The Boise, another CA and several DDs were supposed to retire to Darwin, set to react 0. For what reason ever, the AI decided that it would be a good idea to send this TF to Amboina where a TF with 2BBs and several CAs was waiting for it. [8|]

You are really pressing the limits of credibility here. The AI didn't send your TF to Amboina. You did. Making this claim brings in to question all of the other stuff you are complaining about. IMHO.

Are you guys joking? In Europe Carneval ended today...

I ran the turn again BEFORE this happened and I DIDN´t send it there. Wonder if the smart guys are around today. [8|]

It´s the same SH*T like having one carrier TF react when the other three stay behind even if set to react 0. Then you hear "blah blah blah, wrong commander! blah blah". Then you check the commander and see that he had an agressivness rating of 35 and is VERY CAREFUL...

OH YES. THE GAME WORKS SO GOOD. Nothing to fix, only some typos in the database.

Ah sorry, even the sync bug was my fault....

[castor troy]

ORIGINAL: moses

Yeah I really wanted to blame my recent disaster with my carriers on a bug. I would have sworn that I had set my ships properly. I would have bet $100!!!!!!

But I've started the practice of saving every turn before I end the turn for my opponents save. I went back to my save and well......it was sort of my fault.[&:]

Still I could swear that I set those orders. But memory lies---the saves don't.

You´re correct. My save didn´t lie either. Set to retire from Kendari to Darwin, react 0. Result: ended up in Amboina... [8|]
NO IT´S NOT A BUG IT´S A FEATURE....

[jwilkerson]

ORIGINAL: marky

hehe poor Boise, she actually got blown outta the water

And with that 13" armor she has aboard .. and by CAs to boot .... musta been one hecque-of-a lucky shot!

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... Still I could swear that I set those orders ...

Hey Moses ... a couple of times I've found myself ... loading up my "just before hitting the turn over button save" and wandering around the map .. and then forgetting that no changes I make now count .. and sometimes I catch myself and remember ... and sometimes I don't ... that has actually been the cause of several of my mistakes ... thinking I'd done something I hadn't done .. because I did do it .. but I did it at the wrong time in the wrong place !!!

[castor troy]

ORIGINAL: Terminus

Nononono, it's a bug! It's gotta be!

It´s gotta be dumb spam, nothing else. Wonder if you even know the game. The only thing someone gets back from you is something like above.

There was no transport, no long range cap, .... NOTHING!!! Sorry, ARE YOU REALLY DUMB? Must be, sorry again.

If there are showing up planes as shot down then this is strange. Not strange for you --- why should it??

Someone who spams 18000+ posts in not even 2 years wouldn´t find it strange at all if he loses 3 BBs in Pearl even if KB had hit Manila.

But you are asking: "What's the point of showing the combat reports if they're not what happened in the game...?" Seems Carneval in Denmark isn´t over yet and everyone gets free beer....

Why can´t you explain what happened? Why don´t you just quote a page of the manual (no matter if it´s wrong or not)? Can´t find it in the manual???? I bet especially YOU can´t bring up a reasonable explanation.

[jwilkerson]

ORIGINAL: castor troy

ORIGINAL: Terminus

Nononono, it's a bug! It's gotta be!

It´s gotta be dumb spam, nothing else. Wonder if you even know the game. The only thing someone gets back from you is something like above.

There was no transport, no long range cap, .... NOTHING!!! Sorry, ARE YOU REALLY DUMB? Must be, sorry again.

If there are showing up planes as shot down then this is strange. Not strange for you --- why should it??

Someone who spams 18000+ posts in not even 2 years wouldn´t find it strange at all if he loses 3 BBs in Pearl even if KB had hit Manila.

But you are asking: "What's the point of showing the combat reports if they're not what happened in the game...?" Seems Carneval in Denmark isn´t over yet and everyone gets free beer....

Ok .. gettin' a little toooooo personal here ... complaining about the game is fine ... personal attacks are not ...

BTW we have recently found an issue with task force routing that will be fixed in the next patch ... and it does cause spurious movement ... basically was cause by reuse of a disbanded TF in which one of the three destination fields had not been cleared ... had always been there .. but was turning up so infrequently that nobody bothered to send us a save until recently ... I think I had it happen once ... but I too thought it was the "crazy AI" and just kept on playing ... finally somebody decided it might be an issue and sent it in ... now it is fixed, well will be in the next release ...

But as to the planes ... not sure ... but in testing PBEM against PBEM ... I have noticed the victory screens can be different for the two sides ... not sure if that is on purpose or not ... never drilled in to it ... but for the most part ... the plane losses seem to match up ...

[Nikademus]

ORIGINAL: moses

Yeah I really wanted to blame my recent disaster with my carriers on a bug. I would have sworn that I had set my ships properly. I would have bet $100!!!!!!

But I've started the practice of saving every turn before I end the turn for my opponents save. I went back to my save and well......it was sort of my fault.[&:]

Still I could swear that I set those orders. But memory lies---the saves don't.

My recent setback at Saipan was due to a bug. Certainly couldn't have been MY generalship. [:D]

[castor troy]

10 Allied fighters are shown as shot down. A Zero and a Tojo also. It must be a feature that 12 planes are shot down even if there was no combat... Of course, someone will say, who cares about a couple of planes.

Like before it was proven that there was this bug with sunken squadrons that still drawed replacements. People were blamed and told everything was right. Perhaps my PBEM against John is just completely screwed. Because of the sync bug, because of what ever. But noone can tell me everything is alright.[8|]

[castor troy]

ORIGINAL: jwilkerson

ORIGINAL: castor troy

ORIGINAL: Terminus

Nononono, it's a bug! It's gotta be!

It´s gotta be dumb spam, nothing else. Wonder if you even know the game. The only thing someone gets back from you is something like above.

There was no transport, no long range cap, .... NOTHING!!! Sorry, ARE YOU REALLY DUMB? Must be, sorry again.

If there are showing up planes as shot down then this is strange. Not strange for you --- why should it??

Someone who spams 18000+ posts in not even 2 years wouldn´t find it strange at all if he loses 3 BBs in Pearl even if KB had hit Manila.

But you are asking: "What's the point of showing the combat reports if they're not what happened in the game...?" Seems Carneval in Denmark isn´t over yet and everyone gets free beer....

Ok .. gettin' a little toooooo personal here ... complaining about the game is fine ... personal attacks are not ...

BTW we have recently found an issue with task force routing that will be fixed in the next patch ... and it does cause spurious movement ... basically was cause by reuse of a disbanded TF in which one of the three destination fields had not been cleared ... had always been there .. but was turning up so infrequently that nobody bothered to send us a save until recently ... I think I had it happen once ... but I too thought it was the "crazy AI" and just kept on playing ... finally somebody decided it might be an issue and sent it in ... now it is fixed, well will be in the next release ...

But as to the planes ... not sure ... but in testing PBEM against PBEM ... I have noticed the victory screens can be different for the two sides ... not sure if that is on purpose or not ... never drilled in to it ... but for the most part ... the plane losses seem to match up ...

Sorry but perhaps "people" should stop making such comments like above blaiming me as foolish when I say something is (or may be) wrong. And exactly that was my reason NOT to post what happened to Boise and co, becasue I knew I would be called hysteric, foolish or whatever. After the Boise TF going down I checked the save and saw it was set to go to Darwin not Amboina. Okay I thought, the game goes on for another two years at least, perhaps this doesn´t happen again to me.

Though this thing with planes lost A2A without a fight (or transport, LRCAP,...) seemed even more strange to me.

And thanks that you take people serious. After playing for over two years people often know if there´s something happening that´s "not usual". Both things described are not usual for me.

[Redan]

It may be the boys in the radio room of the Boise enjoyed smoking hemp a little too much or a little too often-- could have been a garbled radio message-- yesterday's code template. This game has a lot of code that gives false info on purpose, doesn't it?

[JJB647]

Just a thought but you said The sync bug resolved itself. Perhaps you are still out of sync. Have you tried running the fix? It worked for me.

1. Japanese player, receives Allied turn.

2. Japanese player turns off COMBAT REPORTS

3. Japanese player watches combat, enters orders and sends to Allied Player. (Japanese player does without combat reports and SIGINT for one turn; take good notes during combat)

4 . Allied player watches replay with COMBAT REPORTS ON (AFAIK)

5. Allied player enters orders and sends to Japanese Player

6. Japanese Player receives allied turn, turns ON COMBAT REPORTS

7. Japanese player watches combat, enters orders and sends to Allied Player. "

[Ursa MAior]

castor

It is not unheard that commanders were disobeying (even direct) orders. You would not be the first CinC in history who has lost a battle due to a disobedient subordinate.

I am still struggling to find a game which resembles hte chaos and the uncertainity of REAL battles where you dont have 100% control over you subordinated and units. 

Edit
It looks like Witp can reproduce this from time to time.

[Dive Bomber1]

ORIGINAL: castor troy

10 Allied fighters are shown as shot down. A Zero and a Tojo also. It must be a feature that 12 planes are shot down even if there was no combat... Of course, someone will say, who cares about a couple of planes.

Like before it was proven that there was this bug with sunken squadrons that still drawed replacements. People were blamed and told everything was right. Perhaps my PBEM against John is just completely screwed. Because of the sync bug, because of what ever. But noone can tell me everything is alright.[8|]

I just had a similar experience - 7 planes were listed in the air combat screen as being shot down, but there was no air combat shown during the combat replay, nor was any air combat listed in the combat report.

However, during the combat replay I did have reports of a number of my planes fly search patterns over an enemy base that had CAP. I don't remember seeing any reports of planes being shot down, but I wasn't specifically looking for that.

I'm going to be watching this more closely in the future - if I see more of this, I'll post about it.

[JeffroK]

Sinking the Boise:
 
The track followed by TF's is usually 2 lines, 10 hexes west then 10 hexes south west, rather than W-SW-W-SW etc.
 
It could be a coincidence that Ambon was on that route from Kendari-Darwin.
 
I usually set a mid point to move to then the final base as the destination.
 
Dont let the AI run too much of your battle..
 
As to combat losses, I've done a lot of looking at Luftwaffe losses & claims, dont believe anything you see on a combat report at any time.

[Yamato hugger]

My guess is he has some command under computer control. China maybe. Or possibly even auto convoys. Any time the computer controls ANY of your forces, strange things happen. Orders get changed, ect. It is nothing new and has been whined about over and over. Anyone with 1400 posts should know that. [;)]

[herwin]

ORIGINAL: castor troy


no this is another story. Could have cried about it on the forum but decided not to do that. The Boise, another CA and several DDs were supposed to retire to Darwin, set to react 0. For what reason ever, the AI decided that it would be a good idea to send this TF to Amboina where a TF with 2BBs and several CAs was waiting for it. [8|]

Of course the Boise and the CA with all the DDs was shot to pieces in two fights. This is just a follow up battle.

Mutter, mutter, mutter, f**king AI, mutter, mutter. Very similar to what I was venting about a week or two ago.

[herwin]

ORIGINAL: Yamato hugger

My guess is he has some command under computer control. China maybe. Or possibly even auto convoys. Any time the computer controls ANY of your forces, strange things happen. Orders get changed, ect. It is nothing new and has been whined about over and over. Anyone with 1400 posts should know that. [;)]

I have no commands under computer control. Nil, nada, nothing at all under computer control, and it still happens...

[castor troy]

ORIGINAL: Yamato hugger

My guess is he has some command under computer control. China maybe. Or possibly even auto convoys. Any time the computer controls ANY of your forces, strange things happen. Orders get changed, ect. It is nothing new and has been whined about over and over. Anyone with 1400 posts should know that. [;)]

If I should take this post serious then I can tell you that I have NOTHING on computer control. NEVER

[Terminus]

He just has a "special" copy of the game, like the one Ron S. has...[8|]

[castor troy]

ORIGINAL: Terminus

He just has a "special" copy of the game, like the one Ron S. has...[8|]

Just go elsewhere spamming! One thing is for sure that Ron S. has contributed more and better things to the forum then your spam for the last two years.

Read what I posted above about you! I just can repeat it!

The combat report, operational report and the aircraft loss list MUST BE A FAKE ehhhh?? Advice: spam out - remaining brain on - otherwise best would be to su!

LISTEN to the great Terminus! There is nothing wrong! There was nothing wrong! Everything is okay! No need for patches! There was never a need for patches! Another 2000 posts in the next two months and everyone will believe you!

One thing has to be patched! The forum. Needs a spam filter to filter out those 5 word spam posts of you on and on and on....

[rtrapasso]

ORIGINAL: castor troy

Needs a spam filter to filter out those 5 word spam posts of you on and on and on....

Five word spam posts? Hmmm.... [:D] [:'(]