Question re CHS ships

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Question re CHS ships

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Darn near done with the Japan CHS art. Have some questions though.

The Type-1 landing ship is clearly the Matsu APD conversion, but I cannot find a suitable reference to a Type-ES LST. Is this the Type-Ha??

Also, what is the Taijo Torakku (AG); obviously a barge of some kind, but a description would be very nice.

The Choyo Maru is listed as an AP, with an old CHS grafik of a near seas ferry? I can find 2 Choyo’s, and both are cargo vessels. Wtfo??

Any help is vastly appreciated. A grafik is perfect; an official ijn designation is just as good. For the Choyo, any reference to a similar class member is fine; her builder and launch year is also good; if none of the above, then her operating company. For our Japanese members, you can send in either Kanji or Katakana.

I want every Japanese ship image to adequately reflect the vessel for which she is named. Call it due respect for a formidable adversary, now a fast friend. Responses can also be PM’d or sent to my email at jw.eldredge@cox.net Thank you.

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RE: Question re CHS ships

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The term AG in WITP is more or less generic and may not refer to anything specific. For RHS I have pretty much done away with it - and use it as a specialized prefix when I want to define a class that is able to behave as both a gunboat and a landing craft (including being "called on demand" by players). Thus one of the types of river gunboats of the First Shipping Transportation Regiment on the Upper Yellow River - which also carries a large number of men - is an AG. I have gone back and forth about the smaller Sea Trucks - at the moment they are AKs. I like the "calling on demand" feature - but an AG won't carry resources - and a "baby AK" will - and since a Sea Truck did that between Korea, the Yellow Sea and Japan, I felt that was more important. I do not think the Type 1 Landing Ship is a conversion, but a special Army/Navy joint design (another case where interservice cooperation occurred, in spite of the widespread belief it did not happen: most amphibious vehicles, craft and vehicles were either joint designs or available for use by the other service - usually with different weapons however). The best single volume English language source is Warships of the Imperial Japanese Navy - by 3 German authors in typically Germanic detail - limited mainly by production cost issues (making print very small and cryptic). Something is lost in the translation (from German - before that from Japanese) but not very much. A fine source is USNI's facilimie of a handwritten report: Japanese Naval Vessels at the End of WWII - by a Japanese IJN commander/naval architect - to which is attached (half the book) wonderful photograps of the period (mainly official). Reading the handwriting/hand drawings is not always easy - but always worth it.
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RE: Question re CHS ships

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On the top of page 227 of Warships of the Imperial Japanese Navy has a line drawing of the IJN Type 1 APD ship in question.
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RE: Question re CHS ships

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ORIGINAL: Mifune

On the top of page 227 of Warships of the Imperial Japanese Navy has a line drawing of the IJN Type 1 APD ship in question.

Thanks Mifune, I do have all the Type-1 stuff I need already. Don Bowen responded on the main forum and let me know what CHS had in mind when it calls out a Type-ES and the Kaijo Torakku. Turns out I have design drawings for these as well.

Choyo Maru remains a cypher, but one of my references to a Choyo Maru lists her as an engines-aft, 290' semi-modern (1929) near-seas cargo carrier; one of a large class. Used her as the Choyo Maru paradigm. Anyway, I have everything I need. Thanks.

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