PzB vs Wobbly - Clash of Steel

PzB74 · Post by **PzB74** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 8:41 pm

The hunters may now become the hunted!

Rob Brennan UK · Post by **Rob Brennan UK** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 10:49 pm

Unlucky on find the enterprise ..

BTW i think you'll find that the enemy are in thailand rather than burma , agreed though the place names are unpronounceable [;)]

intel saying 20,000 men based at khon-pong-yu-gui is no help whatsoever [:D]

and as ever good luck

PzB74 · Post by **PzB74** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:21 pm

Bugger, entire session died and I got logged out when posting. Good thing I copied the txt out.
Anyone know why we get logged out at times?

I've included Thailand into the Burma Area Army for simplicity. All territory east of the Mekong
is Indo China [:)]

Not a bad turn, the situation is fairly well under control. 50 enemy ac destroyed and the
Taiho returns to the Home Islands.

Turns a bit slow, too tired to spend 2 hours in front of the puter moving air units after a
busy day. Will take some time to finish this war, each turn takes requires a lot of attention
and the days are't much different anymore. Our goal is to rebuild the Fleet and protect the Home
Islands until our new Interceptors are ready. If we can do this Andy will find it very difficult
to get anywhere. We're both at 80k points now.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/19/45

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TF 1149 encounters mine field at Marcus Island (75,56)

Allied Ships
LCT LCT-362, and is sunk
LST LST-393, and is sunk
DD Wilson
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Air Combat

Our CAP over Kratie causes enemy losses. In all 50 enemy ac are destroyed today vs 80 Japanese.

Day Air attack on Kratie , at 30,43

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 4
N1K1-J George x 12
J2M Jack x 10
Ki-102a Randy x 4

Allied aircraft
Liberator VI x 9
Beaufighter VIC x 14
B-24J Liberator x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 1 damaged
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed, 10 damaged
J2M Jack: 4 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator VI: 4 destroyed, 1 damaged
Beaufighter VIC: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 6 destroyed, 4 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 4
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Day Air attack on Kratie , at 30,43

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 2
N1K1-J George x 6
J2M Jack x 5
Ki-102a Randy x 2

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 32
B-29 Superfortress x 125

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 4 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 11 destroyed
J2M Jack: 6 destroyed
Ki-102a Randy: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38J Lightning: 8 destroyed, 2 damaged
B-29 Superfortress: 6 destroyed, 7 damaged

Airbase hits 30
Airbase supply hits 13
Runway hits 238
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I put ouf fighters back over Rangoon and attrit the enemy P-38s flying constant sweep missions.
They have to be fatigued by now. The aim is to disperse and weaken the enemy's most potent long range units.

Day Air attack on Rangoon , at 29,34

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 9
N1K1-J George x 24
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 32

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 2 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-84-Ia Frank: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-38J Lightning: 9 destroyed
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Our poor tank regiment is getting decimanted, but reinforcements are close.
I think we can control and contain the situation near Bangkok.

Day Air attack on 2nd Tank Regiment, at 27,39

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 6
Spitfire XIV x 12
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 9
P-40N Warhawk x 113
P-38J Lightning x 27
P-47D Thunderbolt x 11
B-25J Mitchell x 38
A-26B Invader x 6

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
354 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 26
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We land a number of good hits on the weakened enemy flank!

Day Air attack on 3rd Australian Brigade, at 27,39

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49 Helen x 4

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 2
P-47D Thunderbolt x 2

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Allied ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Day Air attack on 3rd Australian Brigade, at 27,39

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 14
Ki-67 Peggy x 35

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 2
P-47D Thunderbolt x 2

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Allied ground losses:
71 casualties reported
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Day Air attack on 24th USA/C Division, at 27,39

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49 Helen x 6

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 2
P-47D Thunderbolt x 2

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Allied ground losses:
27 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Day Air attack on 24th USA/C Division, at 27,39

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 2
Ki-67 Peggy x 19

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 2
P-47D Thunderbolt x 2

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Allied ground losses:
40 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
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In the Bonins I have yet again retreated our air units. They will return when the moment is ripe!

Day Air attack on Bonin , at 65,52

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
P-51D Mustang x 34
B-24J Liberator x 51

Japanese aircraft losses
B7A Grace: 1 destroyed
D4Y Judy: 4 destroyed
H8K Emily: 1 destroyed
A6M5 Zeke: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 6 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
94 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 64
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Day Air attack on Iwo Jima , at 63,53

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 83

Japanese aircraft losses
C6N Myrt: 1 destroyed
Ki-84-Ia Frank: 1 destroyed
Ki-102a Randy: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 4 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
121 casualties reported
Guns lost 7

Airbase hits 19
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 157
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An eager formation from the Home Islands take off alone and gets mauled by enemy CAP!

Day Air attack on TF at 66,53

Japanese aircraft
B7A Grace x 27

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 70
F6F Hellcat x 17
F4U-1 Corsair x 9
F4U-1D Corsair x 36

Japanese aircraft losses
B7A Grace: 18 destroyed
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Ground Combat

Ground combat at Iwo Jima

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 68889 troops, 697 guns, 514 vehicles, Assault Value = 1625

Defending force 68441 troops, 685 guns, 279 vehicles, Assault Value = 1297

Allied ground losses:
61 casualties reported
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The enemy does not get any odds at Bangok and is suffering. We are marching in fresh troops
to slowly bleed an entire army in this eastern capital!

Ground combat at Bangkok

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 127540 troops, 1046 guns, 845 vehicles, Assault Value = 2879

Defending force 51582 troops, 449 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 966

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 7

Allied max assault: 2331 - adjusted assault: 1438

Japanese max defense: 944 - adjusted defense: 2651

Allied assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 7)

Japanese ground losses:
3293 casualties reported
Guns lost 106

Allied ground losses:
3133 casualties reported
Guns lost 61
Vehicles lost 7
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We have smashed the better part of 2 enemy Para regiments!

Ground combat at Phnom Penh

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 13147 troops, 125 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 367

Defending force 1794 troops, 13 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 50

Japanese max assault: 327 - adjusted assault: 290

Allied max defense: 27 - adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 290 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
67 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Allied ground losses:
175 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!
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Burma Campaign

The enemy flanking attack is a nuisance, but it also weakens his main effort and make him more
vulnerable. With dozens of targets to attack we have a better chance of cutting down the occasional
enemy attack.

PzB74 · Post by **PzB74** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:28 pm

The war for supplies is a quiet one, but it has been raging for many years.
Convoys like this is still getting through from the DEI and India with their valuable cargo
of supplies, raw materials and crude oil!

The supplies are mainly routed into the PI, Palaus and Marianas, taking the strain of the Home Islands
which in turn is supplied from China.

I'm slowly abandoning all areas south of Borneo and Davao. This is essential in order to keep our main defense
line strong. In Manila there is some 1000 aviation support, regaining morale and strength. They will be sent were
needed when the time comes.

Watched Letters from Iwo Jima today. Plenty of room for more troops than were used in real life [;)]

Przemcio231 · Post by **Przemcio231** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 8:45 am

Sorry for the OT but you seam to be keen on Jap economy here is a screanshoot from my game with Zeta do you think i got enough Arment and Vechicles as its 9/44 and i think its time to switch off more industry to conserve HI points... i Already switherd off nearly all Merchant Shipyards.

pauk · Post by **pauk** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 11:57 am

perhaps i'm allowed to jump in?[:)]

Can you count on all of your (2850) oil ? Can you transfer it to HI? If the answer is yes, then expand your HI in the place where you are sure that HI won't be attacked in few months (are there such places in late 1944?)

You have enormous stockpiles of supply, so you can allow to expand HI further....

As for your original question, don't switch off armament industry (you are going to recive more reinforcements and it would be nice to have reserves, IMHO)... i think that you can turn off vechiles production - 33K should be more than enough even if you didn't recive your last armoured division (2nd or 3rd, i do not recall)...

With turned off your shipyards you should have surpluses of HI even now...is that a case?

And where is PzB?!

Przemcio231 · Post by **Przemcio231** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 1:21 pm

Well Ambon and Sorong are lost my opponent captured Menado but i mauled his fleet there i think i can safly transfer oil from Belikapapan , Soreboja , Batavia , Palembang , Miri and Brunei As for resources i think all above + Kuala Lumpur, Tobali and Kendari... at least for some time. The worst thing is that my training base in china is closed despite that chinise control only Chungking , Kuoming , and two other bases[:@] Thanks for the tip Pauk

PzB74 · Post by **PzB74** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:04 pm

Been awol for a while, not too much energy left for games these days!

Przemcio, I don't think you will suffer any shortages in your game before it ends, pretty sure about it [:)]

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/20/45

Air Combat

Enemy bombing campaign in the Burma Area Army Region:

Day Air attack on Kratie , at 30,43

Allied aircraft
Liberator VI x 6
Beaufighter VIC x 14
B-24J Liberator x 9

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 11
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Day Air attack on Bangkok , at 29,40

Allied aircraft
B-25J Mitchell x 45

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 36
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Day Air attack on 2nd Tank Regiment, at 27,39

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 6
Spitfire XIV x 8
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 9
P-40N Warhawk x 66
P-38J Lightning x 6
B-25J Mitchell x 27
A-26B Invader x 7

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
115 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 5
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Day Air attack on 70th Ind.Mixed/B Brigade, at 30,43

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 42
F6F Hellcat x 13

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
115 casualties reported
Guns lost 4
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Day Air attack on 24th USA/C Division, at 27,39

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 16
Ki-67 Peggy x 50

Allied aircraft
Spitfire XIV x 1
P-40N Warhawk x 23
P-38J Lightning x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 9 destroyed
Ki-67 Peggy: 11 destroyed, 4 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-40N Warhawk: 1 destroyed, 8 damaged
P-38J Lightning: 1 damaged
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Day Air attack on TF, near Kompong Chhnang at 29,43

Japanese aircraft
Ki-67 Peggy x 3

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 27
F6F Hellcat x 8
F4U-1D Corsair x 4
Kittyhawk III x 3
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 8
P-38J Lightning x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-67 Peggy: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 1 damaged
Kittyhawk III: 1 damaged
P-38J Lightning: 1 damaged
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Day Air attack on Kratie , at 30,43

Japanese aircraft
Ki-102a Randy x 5

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-102a Randy: 1 destroyed
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Enemy is also active in the Bonins. Our engineer and quartermaster are handling the damage
dished out for now. Some 200k supplies on the 2 islands.

Day Air attack on Bonin , at 65,52

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 59
F4U-1 Corsair x 9
F4U-1D Corsair x 51

No Allied losses
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Day Air attack on Bonin , at 65,52

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
P-51D Mustang x 32
B-24J Liberator x 67

Japanese aircraft losses
B7A Grace: 3 destroyed
C6N Myrt: 1 destroyed
E13A1 Jake: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
116 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 97
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Day Air attack on Iwo Jima , at 63,53

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 68

Japanese aircraft losses
B7A Grace: 1 destroyed
C6N Myrt: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
151 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 116
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Ground Combat

Ground combat at 27,39

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 5764 troops, 44 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 158

Defending force 4266 troops, 18 guns, 82 vehicles, Assault Value = 144

Allied ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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We reinforce Bangkok with an engineer regiment tomorrow.

Ground combat at Bangkok

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 5918 troops, 202 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2646

Defending force 47713 troops, 363 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 882

Japanese ground losses:
110 casualties reported
Guns lost 5
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Rebuilding the 3rd Armored

One large undamaged cargo ship returned alive to Mindanao to unload core elements of
the 3rd Armored. It will now rebuild in Manila. The 91st Inf Div will rebuild in Camranh Bay,
it has more fragments and I estimate 2 months before it's combat ready. The 3rd will need 4-5 months.

TimoN · Post by **TimoN** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:28 pm

Ship the 91st and 3rd Armoured to Home Islands. They will rebuild there at least twice as fast. The more big cities are around the unit the more chances it has to receive multiple replacements per turn.

I usually build up my troops to full TOE near Osaka.

PzB74 · Post by **PzB74** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:41 pm

Good advice Timon!

In the Home Islands I now have dozens of militia Division forming.
Not sure it will be much use to add an entire Armored Div to that group.

The 91st is needed in Indo China. Will use it as garrison and free up a Burma Area Army
unit. The enemy outnumbers us and have complete air superiority.

To be realistic it's only a matter of time until it will advance into Indo China - and eventually
be met by the Chinese Area Army. I wish to wear down the enemy troops and retain a strong Burma Area
Army if possible and retreat it into the interior to prevent the enemy from overrunnning us and head into India.

Looks like we can celebrate 200k hits this weekend [:)]

PzB74 · Post by **PzB74** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 12:52 pm

Another routine day in 1945! The next year will be a long ones.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/21/45

Air Combat

Day Air attack on AUS I Corps, at 28,39

Japanese aircraft
Ki-67 Peggy x 18

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
75 casualties reported
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Leaky CAP causes some casualties:

Day Air attack on Saigon , at 31,46

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 4
J2M Jack x 9
Ki-84-Ic Frank x 11
Ki-102a Randy x 4

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 24
B-29 Superfortress x 112

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 1 damaged
J2M Jack: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged
Ki-84-Ic Frank: 8 destroyed
Ki-102a Randy: 1 destroyed
B6N Jill: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38J Lightning: 4 destroyed, 1 damaged
B-29 Superfortress: 2 destroyed, 5 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
74 casualties reported

Airbase hits 30
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 100
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T-bolts are just as bad as Corsairs!

Day Air attack on Bien Hoa , at 31,45

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 17
N1K1-J George x 19
J2M Jack x 36

Allied aircraft
P-47D Thunderbolt x 24

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 5 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 11 destroyed
J2M Jack: 16 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-47D Thunderbolt: 4 destroyed, 3 damaged
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The usual rain over the Bonins: We now got ca 1500 AP on both islands.

Day Air attack on Bonin , at 65,52

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 29
F4U-1 Corsair x 9
F4U-1D Corsair x 39

No Allied losses
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Day Air attack on Bonin , at 65,52

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
P-51D Mustang x 21
B-24J Liberator x 57

Japanese aircraft losses
D4Y Judy: 2 destroyed
Ki-102a Randy: 1 destroyed
H8K Emily: 1 destroyed
B7A Grace: 1 destroyed
C6N Myrt: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 6 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
59 casualties reported

Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 46
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Day Air attack on 3rd Australian Brigade, at 27,39

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 5
Ki-67 Peggy x 28

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 1
Spitfire XIV x 2
P-38J Lightning x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-67 Peggy: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 1 damaged
P-38J Lightning: 1 damaged

Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
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Sending some cripples back from Bonin - got caught in the storm!

Day Air attack on TF at 65,50

Allied aircraft
SB2C Helldiver x 14
TBM Avenger x 14

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Seizan Maru, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP Koyo Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AP Sakido Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
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Day Air attack on TF at 65,50

Allied aircraft
TBM Avenger x 21

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Sakido Maru, on fire, heavy damage
AP Seizan Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP Koyo Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
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Day Air attack on TF at 65,50

Allied aircraft
TBM Avenger x 7

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Koyo Maru, on fire, heavy damage
AK Yamafuji Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
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Day Air attack on TF at 65,50

Allied aircraft
TBM Avenger x 9

Allied aircraft losses
TBM Avenger: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
PC PC-11
MSW W.24
PG Akitsu Maru
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A couple of Daitais in the Home Islands had been set on too long naval strike range:

Day Air attack on TF at 66,53

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 17
P1Y Frances x 4

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 78
F6F Hellcat x 23
F4U-1 Corsair x 8
F4U-1D Corsair x 38

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 13 destroyed
P1Y Frances: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 2 damaged
F4U-1D Corsair: 4 damaged
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Ground Combat

Ground combat at Iwo Jima

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 69026 troops, 700 guns, 517 vehicles, Assault Value = 1626

Defending force 68607 troops, 689 guns, 279 vehicles, Assault Value = 1308

Allied ground losses:
126 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Vehicles lost 2

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Ground combat at 27,39

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 5733 troops, 40 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 157

Defending force 11869 troops, 103 guns, 85 vehicles, Assault Value = 304

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If you compare the combat strength of the enemy with that only 2 days ago, you will
see that it's down some 190. Our combat strength went down some 80 AP after the last assault.
This loss was offset by the Engineer Regiment that arrived yesterday.

Ground combat at Bangkok

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 5895 troops, 200 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2689

Defending force 53255 troops, 372 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 951

Japanese ground losses:
49 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Air Losses

Ron Saueracker · Post by **Ron Saueracker** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 6:29 pm

ORIGINAL: pauk

perhaps i'm allowed to jump in?[:)]

Can you count on all of your (2850) oil ? Can you transfer it to HI? If the answer is yes, then expand your HI in the place where you are sure that HI won't be attacked in few months (are there such places in late 1944?)

You have enormous stockpiles of supply, so you can allow to expand HI further....

As for your original question, don't switch off armament industry (you are going to recive more reinforcements and it would be nice to have reserves, IMHO)... i think that you can turn off vechiles production - 33K should be more than enough even if you didn't recive your last armoured division (2nd or 3rd, i do not recall)...

With turned off your shipyards you should have surpluses of HI even now...is that a case?

And where is PzB?!

Boy, I remember Mogami, Frag and the rest of the hard core types saying how impossible it was that supply in general was too plentiful and that the economy was too supply hog like to posibly stockpile excess supply. Chalk up yet another one for old Ronny boy, eh?[8D] Still batting 1000 over here in the cheap seats.[:D]

LittleJoe · Post by **LittleJoe** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 6:36 pm

Well isnt it possible that hes an exceptional case? Admittedly im a
rubbish Jap player, but i definately dont have stockpiles of supplies and fuel like that and im sure plenty of others dont.

Have they always ****'d swear words?

PzB74 · Post by **PzB74** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 9:05 pm

As usual the truth can probably be found between Ron's big characters and the keyboard [;)]
Think I have been careful with expanding factories and facilities in this game. Andy was dissappointed when he captured
Singapore cause the ship repair yards there hadn't been expanded at all....

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/22/45

Air Combat

Why so much attention on Saigon? Already 9 forts, so be my gues.

Day Air attack on Saigon , at 31,46

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 18
B-29 Superfortress x 95

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
33 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 19
Airbase supply hits 8
Runway hits 172
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No clay pidgeons to shoot over Bien Hoa today..they were all on escort missions
and splattered the P47s less formidable cousins [:D]

Day Air attack on Bien Hoa , at 31,45

Allied aircraft
P-47D Thunderbolt x 19

No Allied losses
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Andy is targetting most bases in Thailand:

Day Air attack on Kratie , at 30,43

Allied aircraft
Liberator VI x 11
Beaufighter VIC x 15
B-24J Liberator x 15

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 21
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Day Air attack on Bangkok , at 29,40

Allied aircraft
B-25J Mitchell x 43

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 28
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Day Air attack on Iwo Jima , at 63,53

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 49

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
145 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 82
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Most enemy fighters are on ground attack:

Day Air attack on 15th Naval Guard Unit, at 27,39

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 2
Spitfire XIV x 3
P-38J Lightning x 3
B-25J Mitchell x 8
A-26B Invader x 3

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
71 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
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Day Air attack on 3rd Engineer Regiment, at 29,40

Allied aircraft
TBM Avenger x 4
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 7
P-40N Warhawk x 82
P-47D Thunderbolt x 7

Allied aircraft losses
Beaufighter Mk 21: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
189 casualties reported
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Our bombers do their best to weaken the enemy before another attempt at driving the enemy
left flank south:

Day Air attack on 3rd Australian Brigade, at 27,39

Japanese aircraft
Ki-67 Peggy x 15

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
39 casualties reported
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Day Air attack on 3rd Australian Brigade, at 27,39

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49 Helen x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported
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Day Air attack on 3rd Australian Brigade, at 27,39

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 3
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 12
Ki-67 Peggy x 24

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
17 casualties reported
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Day Air attack on 48th/B Division, at 29,40

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 48

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
37 casualties reported
Guns lost 4
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Day Air attack on 21st/C Division, at 27,39

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 3
Spitfire XIV x 8
P-38J Lightning x 5
B-25J Mitchell x 27
A-26B Invader x 6

Allied aircraft losses
B-25J Mitchell: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
123 casualties reported
Guns lost 8
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Day Air attack on 24th USA/C Division, at 27,39

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49 Helen x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
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Day Air attack on 24th USA/C Division, at 27,39

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 3
Ki-67 Peggy x 15

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
2 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Todays anti shipping strikes were more of a 'what if' than anything else...(

Day Air attack on TF, near Kompong Chhnang at 29,43

Japanese aircraft
Ki-67 Peggy x 11

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 9
F6F Hellcat x 8
F4U-1D Corsair x 2
Kittyhawk III x 3
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-67 Peggy: 11 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 1 damaged
F6F Hellcat: 1 damaged
Beaufighter Mk 21: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
AK John P. Gaines, Kamikaze hits 1, on fire
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Day Air attack on TF, near Kompong Chhnang at 29,43

Japanese aircraft
Ki-67 Peggy x 6

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 9
F6F Hellcat x 8
F4U-1D Corsair x 2
Kittyhawk III x 3
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-67 Peggy: 6 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1D Corsair: 1 damaged
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Day Air attack on TF, near Kompong Chhnang at 29,43

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 7
N1K1-J George x 5
J2M Jack x 25
B7A Grace x 8
Ki-84-Ic Frank x 9
Ki-102a Randy x 5

Allied aircraft <- surprisingly light enemy CAP! The USS Wasp lies open for attack...but our few kamis are green, 20 Bettys fail to find their
targets and another 50 bombers doesn't take off. Grrr.....
FM-2 Wildcat x 9
F6F Hellcat x 8
F4U-1D Corsair x 2
Kittyhawk III x 3
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 2 destroyed
J2M Jack: 5 destroyed
B7A Grace: 8 destroyed
Ki-84-Ic Frank: 4 destroyed
Ki-102a Randy: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 6 destroyed
F6F Hellcat: 3 destroyed
Kittyhawk III: 1 destroyed
Beaufighter Mk 21: 9 destroyed

Allied Ships
CV Wasp
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Day Air attack on TF at 27,39

Japanese aircraft
D4Y Judy x 21

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 1
Spitfire XIV x 2
P-38J Lightning x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
D4Y Judy: 3 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied Ships <- unloading supplies for defeated enemy troops
AK Cheleb, Bomb hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
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In the PM phase the enemy carriers are shrouded in and our bombers go to Bangkok and phase a
bigger enemy CAP:

Day Air attack on TF, near Bangkok at 29,40

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 11
J2M Jack x 28
G4M2 Betty x 26
Ki-84-Ic Frank x 10
Ki-102a Randy x 11

Allied aircraft
P-40N Warhawk x 2
P-38J Lightning x 19
P-47D Thunderbolt x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 7 destroyed
J2M Jack: 12 destroyed, 1 damaged
G4M2 Betty: 2 destroyed, 9 damaged
Ki-84-Ic Frank: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-102a Randy: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-38J Lightning: 9 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied Ships <- supplys ships unloading at Bangkok!
AK Alhena
AK Arctic
AK Antrim
AK Ascella
AK Ara, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking: - an incredible poor result. 1 hit on transports by 24 Bettys!
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Ground Combat

The Australians retreat, A small US Regiment is left behind.
The road to Bangkok has almost been re-openend.

Ground combat at 27,39

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 11531 troops, 90 guns, 88 vehicles, Assault Value = 303

Defending force 5615 troops, 42 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 156

Japanese max assault: 196 - adjusted assault: 191

Allied max defense: 102 - adjusted defense: 63

Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
349 casualties reported
Guns lost 10
Vehicles lost 3

Allied ground losses:
80 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!
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Ground combat at Iwo Jima

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 68855 troops, 697 guns, 516 vehicles, Assault Value = 1625

Defending force 68528 troops, 691 guns, 278 vehicles, Assault Value = 1312

Allied ground losses:
9 casualties reported
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Another enemy assault lowers the forts, but Andy isn't going to get a good odds unless
he strengthen his force. The city defense modifier alone will see to that.

Ground combat at Bangkok

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 125232 troops, 986 guns, 840 vehicles, Assault Value = 2727

Defending force 53325 troops, 380 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 964

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 6

Allied max assault: 2211 - adjusted assault: 1248

Japanese max defense: 957 - adjusted defense: 4231

Allied assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 6)

Japanese ground losses:
2289 casualties reported
Guns lost 51

Allied ground losses:
2282 casualties reported
Guns lost 74
Vehicles lost 8
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PzB74 · Post by **PzB74** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:22 pm

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PzB74 · Post by **PzB74** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:51 pm

Nothing of particular interest, the usual hard road that is to be expected in 1945.
Slowly rebuilding my striking power, both in the air and at sea. The heavy cruiser Takao
is down to 10 sys damage.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/23/45

Air Combat

Day Air attack on Iwo Jima , at 63,53

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 73

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 7 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
222 casualties reported
Guns lost 6

Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 106
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3 Peggys get through but fail to hit the Ommaney Bay...

Day Air attack on TF at 23,59

Japanese aircraft
Ki-67 Peggy x 5

Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-67 Peggy: 5 destroyed

Allied Ships
CVE Ommaney Bay
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No luck this time either:

Day Air attack on TF, near Georgetown at 23,44

Japanese aircraft
Ki-67 Peggy x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-67 Peggy: 3 destroyed

Allied Ships
APD Belknap
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Enemy LR CAP over Bangkok protecting the cargo ships there!

Day Air attack on TF, near Bangkok at 29,40

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 6
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 7
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 22

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 5
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 11
P-38J Lightning x 7
P-47D Thunderbolt x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 3 destroyed
Ki-84-Ia Frank: 9 destroyed, 3 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Beaufighter Mk 21: 5 destroyed, 1 damaged
P-47D Thunderbolt: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Alcona
AK Bellatrix

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Ground Combat

Difficult to drive the yanks away. Trying again tomorrow with reinforcements!

Ground combat at 27,39

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 10971 troops, 76 guns, 87 vehicles, Assault Value = 425

Defending force 2043 troops, 30 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 64

Japanese max assault: 256 - adjusted assault: 312

Allied max defense: 57 - adjusted defense: 45

Japanese assault odds: 6 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
159 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Allied ground losses:
52 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Tomorrow a reserve regiment marches into Bangkok. I predict a nasty repulse for Andy's
next attack.

Ground combat at Bangkok

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 101534 troops, 876 guns, 102 vehicles, Assault Value = 2520

Defending force 48901 troops, 312 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 846

Japanese ground losses:
396 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Andy finally assembled troops to drive our paras from Songkhia. They retreated towards
Victoria Point.

Ground combat at Songkhia

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 26966 troops, 186 guns, 688 vehicles, Assault Value = 1011

Defending force 403 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 20

Allied max assault: 1248 - adjusted assault: 1477

Japanese max defense: 11 - adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 1477 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
322 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
14 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!
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Let's turn the pilot list around and look at our top scoring LIVING aces [:)]
Not many Zeke aces, but look at Lt Hagiri in his Rufe - 10 kills [:D]

No pilots with less than 83 exp on the list!
How can it be that one ace isn't assigned to an ac?

denisonh · Post by **denisonh** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 2:01 am

You sure penalize your opponent for sticking his neck out. I really like the Vicious counterattack methodology.

Remind me not to ever play you in a PBEM

PzB74 · Post by **PzB74** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 6:57 pm

Was hoping we could have a round of WitP one day actually! Must be 3 years since UV...
Counter-attacking is vital to force the enemy onto the defensive.

I've found that it's a good idea to distribute trained air replacements to kami units.
Having just a single high exp pilot increases the chance to get a damaging hit many times.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/24/45

Air Combat

Day Air attack on Iwo Jima , at 63,53

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 64

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
122 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 10
Runway hits 82
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Heavy air strikes in the contested areas!

Day Air attack on 81st Naval Guard Unit, at 30,43

Allied aircraft
B-25J Mitchell x 26
B-24J Liberator x 26
B-29 Superfortress x 33

Allied aircraft losses
B-25J Mitchell: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
363 casualties reported
Guns lost 5
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Day Air attack on 3rd Engineer Regiment, at 29,40

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 47

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
147 casualties reported
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Day Air attack on 48th/B Division, at 29,40

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 16
F4U-1D Corsair x 21
TBM Avenger x 50

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
137 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
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Day Air attack on 48th/B Division, at 29,40

Allied aircraft
Beaufighter VIC x 19
P-40N Warhawk x 6
P-47D Thunderbolt x 5

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported
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Day Air attack on 48th/B Division, at 29,40

Allied aircraft
PB4Y Liberator x 6
B-29 Superfortress x 33

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
48 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Day Air attack on 70th Ind.Mixed/B Brigade, at 30,43

Allied aircraft
Mosquito FB.VI x 9
P-47D Thunderbolt x 2

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
45 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Day Air attack on 70th Ind.Mixed/B Brigade, at 30,43

Allied aircraft
B-25J Mitchell x 17
B-24J Liberator x 29
B-29 Superfortress x 24

Allied aircraft losses
B-25J Mitchell: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
373 casualties reported
Guns lost 10
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Day Air attack on 24th USA/C Division, at 27,39

Japanese aircraft
Ki-67 Peggy x 15

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 2
Spitfire XIV x 2
P-38J Lightning x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-67 Peggy: 4 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-38J Lightning: 2 damaged

Allied ground losses:
13 casualties reported
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Tried to get some kamis to accompany the Oscars to hit the enemy carriers of the Bonins but
only 3 Peggys tagged along.

Day Air attack on TF at 66,53

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 10
Ki-67 Peggy x 3

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 64
F6F Hellcat x 11
F4U-1 Corsair x 8
F4U-1D Corsair x 41

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 10 destroyed
Ki-67 Peggy: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 2 damaged
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We scored a hit on the old battleship California though, knocking out a secondary
gun position.

Day Air attack on TF, near Bangkok at 29,40

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 2

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 1
P-38J Lightning x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 2 destroyed

Allied Ships
BB California, Kamikaze hits 1
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West of Bangkok our Judys score 2 bomb hits on the Colorado, also knocking out a secondary
gun position.

Day Air attack on TF at 27,40

Japanese aircraft
D4Y Judy x 13

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 4
P-47D Thunderbolt x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
D4Y Judy: 3 destroyed, 7 damaged

Allied Ships
BB Colorado, Bomb hits 2
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Ground Combat

We succeed in driving the enemy south and now we can re-open the road to Bangkok
and bring in reinforcements. Enemy armored units are moving north in Malaya. Will leave
behind rear guard units. Maybe we can draw out the enemy reserves and slowly bog them down.

Ground combat at 27,39

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 18350 troops, 158 guns, 89 vehicles, Assault Value = 424

Defending force 1961 troops, 28 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 61

Japanese max assault: 594 - adjusted assault: 368

Allied max defense: 53 - adjusted defense: 27

Japanese assault odds: 13 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
182 casualties reported
Guns lost 5
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
85 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!
Ground combat at 27,39
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Ground combat at Bangkok

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 102013 troops, 887 guns, 102 vehicles, Assault Value = 2571

Defending force 53890 troops, 391 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 969

Japanese ground losses:
460 casualties reported
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Kamikaze!

Przemcio231 · Post by **Przemcio231** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 8:31 pm

Well i must tell you that something is wrong with this game in my game ageainst Zeta we moved into 10/44 he just liberated entire Burma[:(] but when he Landed at Ulithi a Firce battle started raging for like a week or something i lost CA , CL and some DD's + Planes sinking Saratoga (Essex) , 13 CVE's , 3 BB's few CA's , CL's and DD's  and i just went in for another Round[:D] This game gives Japas an Advantage All the Way...

PzB74 · Post by **PzB74** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 8:48 pm

Sounds like Zeta shouldn't have invaded Ulithi if you ask me [:D]
Throwing in the kitchen sink to suppress a chain of well fortified islands isn't recommended unless certain key pre-requisites can be met first.
Andy aborted just such an attempted landing against the Marianas and has been slugging it against isolated islands ever since.

Even an attempt at a small island chain (Bonins) stalled Andy - mostly because he didn't use LBA from Wake
and Marcus to suppress Bonin and Iwo Jima first.

To successfully occupy the Palaus in WitP you have to:

1. Occupy Truk and Central/Northern New Guinea and establish bases for your LBA.
2. Pound the Palaus into rubble.
3. Land heavy contingents of LCUs covered by a US Super Carrier Navy with Hellcats and Corsairs supported by
heavy surface combat groups.

Even 10/44 may be too early if you haven't fulfilled the pre-requisites.
It's much like a receipt for making a cake, you have to know how to do it to succeed [;)]

Still haven't heard about anyone invading the Home Islands in a pbem game, so I'm not sure whether this is possible or not.
As this wasn't attempted in RL it's impossible to get many pointers, but it would have been bloody.
The US estimated 1 million casualties.

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