Well I am starting a late war allied AAR in which the allied player is way down on points. Zeta16, which is me is playing Przemcio231. This was a game that started with the 5/42 start and Przemcio handed me great defeats at PM and then in China. He also took Luganville and Efate making my life tough for years. I did not final get any where near NG until mid to late 43. China has been tough on me as at this point he is doing a number on me and I am trying to help this by taking Ragoon and Mandalay so hopefully supply will get there. In the Pacific I have taken the Marshalls and have moved in to Hollianda and Morarati and I havet took Utlihi. This AAR is going to be about an allied player that is still down 20,000 points in 9/44 and needs to get a ton of points. I will tell you my plans and show you what I am doing in the AAR. Przemcio is to stay out as these are my plans and thoughts on this game. At this point I am playing scared as he has lost no CV's and every time we meet I lose, so that is on my mind. Other than that I feel that I can do what ever I want where ever I want.
So to come in the next few posts are screen shots of the score and other things as well as maps and so forth.
Late War Alllied AAR while being way down on Points. Zeta16(a) v. Przemcio231 (j)
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Late War Alllied AAR while being way down on Points. Zeta16(a) v. Przemcio231 (j)
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RE: Late War Alllied AAR while being way down on Points. Zeta16(a) v. Przemcio231 (j)
Ok first thing is the score
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The Central Pacific
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The Burma area of operation, these two areas are where the game action is taking place.
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RE: Late War Alllied AAR while being way down on Points. Zeta16(a) v. Przemcio231 (j)
Ok here are the carriers that I have lost, and by the way he has lost zero
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OK here are the top allied plane loses
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Here are top Japanese loses
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RE: Late War Alllied AAR while being way down on Points. Zeta16(a) v. Przemcio231 (j)
Finally becasue I like to know what pilots are doing here are the top allied pilots.
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RE: Late War Alllied AAR while being way down on Points. Zeta16(a) v. Przemcio231 (j)
You aren't really in that bad a shape actually...
There are only two kinds of people that understand Marines: Marines and the enemy. Everyone else has a second-hand opinion.
Gen. William Thornson, U.S. Army
Gen. William Thornson, U.S. Army
RE: Late War Alllied AAR while being way down on Points. Zeta16(a) v. Przemcio231 (j)
ORIGINAL: rogueusmc
You aren't really in that bad a shape actually...
I think you right as I am way behind on base points. I hope to make those up.
"Ours was the first revolution in the history of mankind that truly reversed the course of government, and with three little words: 'We the people.' 'We the people' tell the government what to do, it doesn't tell us." -Ronald Reagan
RE: Late War Alllied AAR while being way down on Points. Zeta16(a) v. Przemcio231 (j)
OK so he has about *12 CVs, but only *5 carry similar numbers of planes to your CVs, the rest are smaller, brittler, etc. I am figuring that depending on recycling launch dates, you have at least *6 fast carriers and 5 CVLs. My two cents is try the direct clubbing blow (the Soviet approach if you will) coz he's too spread out:
1) arrange what carriers you have into the classical air combat Tfs (2 x CV, 2 x CVL, and escorts to maximise the AAA) I'm thinking you can do 3 or 4 of these, use them to protect your staging post for the below (Marcus is a good anchorage, also I think it gives you some recon coverage of Tokyo et al)
2) pick something thats not near a lot of other Japanese air bases but is important (Iwo Jima is a bit close to Tokyo, but otherwise fits the bill) so he'll fight for it, target it with all the HQs and land forces involved to build up prep points.
3) Its only 1944, so grab Marcus as a staging area, and a way station for airplane replacements, put some CVEs with the VRs there, neutralise the airbase on Iwo with your fast carriers (meaning 99% runway damage) and have replenishment TFs available.
4) send in the air combat TF's followed by your old (expendable) BBs to pound the place, followed by the CVEs and two enormous amphib task forces each carrying a corps of marines (2 divs, tanks, artillery, engineers, combat engineers, a corp HQ, with an army division in reserve) - This will be bloody but you will prevail. Always be rotating one of your air combat TFs back to your staging base - when the KB shows up, and loses a lot of fighters on turn A, your reserve TF can arrive on turn B and give the KB a thorough hosing.
5) early on, ie NOW, form up a huge transport TF in San Fran with AKs full of supplies, and tankers full of fuel. "Do not unload" The object of this TF is to sail slowly over to the staging area while preparations are continuing. The turn the Marines go in it goes in as well set to unload. As well as assisting your assault with a trickle of supplies over the beach it will confuse the defenders. When you take the base it will be one of the best supplied in the Pacific, for a while. You should also have a smaller TF loaded with crated fighters (mustangs and corsairs) and a big aviation regiment (270 support) to land the turn you fly some Mustangs in from another base. The empty CVEs are also good for this task.
6) Have a corps of 3-4 army divisions plus tanks plus artilley, corps HQ ets available and building to 100% prep for Iwo, once the marines have taken the base and you have moved about 500 Corsairs and Mustangs in there to establish local air supremacy ship the army in and stand down the Marines - who can start prepping for Okinawa.
5) forget about the Philippines or the Marianas and do the above to Okinawa. Do Okinawa initially with the entire US Marine Corps (6 divisions, tank btns, amtrac btns, artillery, HQ's, engineers, Howling Mad Smith, Chesty Puller, the kitchen sink, every thing) landing in one hex.
6) Fire bomb (at night at 5 or 6 thousnad feet) every Japanese city in reach with B24s or B29s or P38s or whatever can reach (which from Okinawa will be lots).
7) once you have his attention use the otherwise unemployed BPF to perform operation Matador (landing on the west coast of Malaya) and see if you can take Singapore back.
You might pick up a few points that way.
1) arrange what carriers you have into the classical air combat Tfs (2 x CV, 2 x CVL, and escorts to maximise the AAA) I'm thinking you can do 3 or 4 of these, use them to protect your staging post for the below (Marcus is a good anchorage, also I think it gives you some recon coverage of Tokyo et al)
2) pick something thats not near a lot of other Japanese air bases but is important (Iwo Jima is a bit close to Tokyo, but otherwise fits the bill) so he'll fight for it, target it with all the HQs and land forces involved to build up prep points.
3) Its only 1944, so grab Marcus as a staging area, and a way station for airplane replacements, put some CVEs with the VRs there, neutralise the airbase on Iwo with your fast carriers (meaning 99% runway damage) and have replenishment TFs available.
4) send in the air combat TF's followed by your old (expendable) BBs to pound the place, followed by the CVEs and two enormous amphib task forces each carrying a corps of marines (2 divs, tanks, artillery, engineers, combat engineers, a corp HQ, with an army division in reserve) - This will be bloody but you will prevail. Always be rotating one of your air combat TFs back to your staging base - when the KB shows up, and loses a lot of fighters on turn A, your reserve TF can arrive on turn B and give the KB a thorough hosing.
5) early on, ie NOW, form up a huge transport TF in San Fran with AKs full of supplies, and tankers full of fuel. "Do not unload" The object of this TF is to sail slowly over to the staging area while preparations are continuing. The turn the Marines go in it goes in as well set to unload. As well as assisting your assault with a trickle of supplies over the beach it will confuse the defenders. When you take the base it will be one of the best supplied in the Pacific, for a while. You should also have a smaller TF loaded with crated fighters (mustangs and corsairs) and a big aviation regiment (270 support) to land the turn you fly some Mustangs in from another base. The empty CVEs are also good for this task.
6) Have a corps of 3-4 army divisions plus tanks plus artilley, corps HQ ets available and building to 100% prep for Iwo, once the marines have taken the base and you have moved about 500 Corsairs and Mustangs in there to establish local air supremacy ship the army in and stand down the Marines - who can start prepping for Okinawa.
5) forget about the Philippines or the Marianas and do the above to Okinawa. Do Okinawa initially with the entire US Marine Corps (6 divisions, tank btns, amtrac btns, artillery, HQ's, engineers, Howling Mad Smith, Chesty Puller, the kitchen sink, every thing) landing in one hex.
6) Fire bomb (at night at 5 or 6 thousnad feet) every Japanese city in reach with B24s or B29s or P38s or whatever can reach (which from Okinawa will be lots).
7) once you have his attention use the otherwise unemployed BPF to perform operation Matador (landing on the west coast of Malaya) and see if you can take Singapore back.
You might pick up a few points that way.
"I am Alfred"
RE: Late War Alllied AAR while being way down on Points. Zeta16(a) v. Przemcio231 (j)
Ian, nice little plan, but a little to radical for me as we are trying to play a some what normal game. I have troops prep for my next moves on guam, tinian, Saipan, the PI. About the carreries we have a house rule of only 500 planes in sea hex. He is getting good at only sending his carriers when he has local land air as well so it is hard. In this last invasion of Utilhi he attacked over and over with land air and but a bunch of bombs in cve's, which did not sink, but are ported in Utilhi. he also shot down a bunch of my planes from cv tf, so after I took Utilhi I headed home with my main cv's as I know he will show up with his cv's after land air had made my pilots tired and when I had less planes.
So this turn his cv's show up from either the PI or Japan itself. Since I landed air support and seabees with my landing I thought I could have the field in ok shape to put up fighters to defend the ships landed there. Well I guess they did a poor job as non of my pplanes got up into the air. His cv's showed up a long with land air and put 3 cve's into sea. He also got a few more hits on invaison ships, but all reality it could have been worse. He also attacked my cv tf that was sailing back to Hollandia but these guys got no hits. So he almost got his wish of finding my main cv's tired and low on planes but I knew he would come and mass an all out attack. So I will trade a few cv's for him to lose more trained pilots as he is running out of places in China to train them at this point.
So here is the combat report.
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 09/29/44
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ASW attack at 54,64
Japanese Ships
DD Makigumo
DD Kazegumo
DD Akigumo
DD Yugumo
Allied Ships
SS Hoe, hits 3
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Day Air attack on Taung Gyi , at 33,32
Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 32
Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 8 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
98 casualties reported
Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 32
Aircraft Attacking:
20 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 10000 feet
12 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on Rahaeng , at 31,35
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 13
B-25C Mitchell x 15
B-25J Mitchell x 26
Japanese aircraft losses
L3Y Tina: 9 destroyed
L2D2 Tabby: 6 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 1 damaged
B-25J Mitchell: 1 damaged
Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 31
Aircraft Attacking:
15 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
6 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
6 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
8 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 24th Ind.Mixed Brigade, at 55,67
Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 7
FM-2 Wildcat x 5
TBF Avenger x 16
TBM Avenger x 43
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
37 casualties reported
Aircraft Attacking:
4 x TBM Avenger bombing at 20000 feet
4 x TBM Avenger bombing at 20000 feet
4 x TBM Avenger bombing at 20000 feet
4 x TBM Avenger bombing at 20000 feet
3 x TBM Avenger bombing at 20000 feet
4 x TBM Avenger bombing at 20000 feet
2 x TBM Avenger bombing at 20000 feet
2 x TBM Avenger bombing at 20000 feet
2 x TBM Avenger bombing at 20000 feet
2 x TBM Avenger bombing at 20000 feet
2 x TBM Avenger bombing at 20000 feet
4 x TBM Avenger bombing at 20000 feet
8 x TBF Avenger bombing at 20000 feet
8 x TBF Avenger bombing at 20000 feet
1 x TBM Avenger bombing at 20000 feet
1 x TBM Avenger bombing at 20000 feet
1 x TBM Avenger bombing at 20000 feet
1 x TBM Avenger bombing at 20000 feet
1 x TBM Avenger bombing at 20000 feet
1 x TBM Avenger bombing at 20000 feet
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Day Air attack on 40th Chinese Corps, at 41,32
Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 20
Ki-49 Helen x 107
No Japanese losses
Allied ground losses:
111 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Aircraft Attacking:
19 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet
27 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet
18 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet
25 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet
20 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
18 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 55,66
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 13
N1K1-J George x 31
J2M Jack x 61
G4M2 Betty x 27
P1Y Frances x 14
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 3
Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 4
FM-2 Wildcat x 2
Japanese aircraft losses
J2M Jack: 1 destroyed
G4M2 Betty: 1 destroyed, 8 damaged
P1Y Frances: 7 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 4 destroyed
FM-2 Wildcat: 2 destroyed
Allied Ships
CVE Gambier Bay, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage (would sink later)
CVE Kitkun Bay, Torpedo hits 1, on fire (would sink)
CVE Anzio, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage (would sink)
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 55,66
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 151
D4Y Judy x 205
B6N Jill x 9
B7A Grace x 208
Japanese aircraft losses
D4Y Judy: 4 damaged
B6N Jill: 1 damaged
B7A Grace: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Allied Ships
CVE Gambier Bay, on fire, heavy damage
CVE Kitkun Bay, Bomb hits 9, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DE Crouter
DE Bebas, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DE Whitman, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DE Martin, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
DE Carlson, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DE Parks, Bomb hits 2, on fire
DE Fair
DE Cabana, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DE Austin, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
2 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
2 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
3 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
2 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
2 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
1 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 55,66
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 54
N1K1-J George x 100
D4Y Judy x 38
B7A Grace x 15
G4M2 Betty x 35
P1Y Frances x 24
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 70
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships
CVE Gambier Bay, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
1 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
3 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
1 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 55,66
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 28
D4Y Judy x 62
B6N Jill x 9
B7A Grace x 54
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships
CVE Kitkun Bay, on fire, heavy damage
DE Fleming, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
1 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 55,66
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 6
D4Y Judy x 25
Japanese aircraft losses
D4Y Judy: 5 damaged
Allied Ships
CVE Gambier Bay, on fire, heavy damage
DE Fleming, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Spence, Bomb hits 3, on fire
Aircraft Attacking:
1 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 55,66
Japanese aircraft
B7A Grace x 18
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships
CVE Kitkun Bay, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Ulithi at 55,67 (this is where the CAP did not fly becasue of runway damage)
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 22
N1K1-J George x 60
G4M2 Betty x 9
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 41
Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 11
F6F Hellcat x 4
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 2 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 4 destroyed
G4M2 Betty: 3 destroyed, 3 damaged
Ki-84-Ia Frank: 5 destroyed, 1 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 11 destroyed
F6F Hellcat: 4 destroyed
Allied Ships
BB Alabama
BB Richelieu, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Bennion, Torpedo hits 1
Aircraft Attacking:
1 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Ulithi at 55,67
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 9
N1K1-J George x 27
J2M Jack x 52
G4M2 Betty x 22
P1Y Frances x 6
Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 2 destroyed, 18 damaged
P1Y Frances: 3 damaged
Allied Ships
DMS Lamberton
CA Shropshire, Torpedo hits 2, on fire
DD Hughes
DD Edwards, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AP President Adams
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Ulithi at 55,67 (runway damage led to this)
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 5
N1K1-J George x 12
G4M2 Betty x 21
P1Y Frances x 19
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 9
Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 14 damaged
P1Y Frances: 8 damaged
Allied Ships
AK Jeremiah M. Rusk
AP Barnett
CA Shropshire, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AP Cambria, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP Thomas Jefferson, Torpedo hits 1
DD Edwards, on fire
AP W.A. Holbrook, Torpedo hits 2, on fire
AP Warren, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
Allied ground losses:
58 casualties reported
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Ulithi at 55,67
Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 21
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 12
Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 6 damaged
Allied Ships
AP President Garfield, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AP St. Mihel
AP Arthur Middleton, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Alden
Aircraft Attacking:
1 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Ulithi at 55,67 (No CAP becasue of runway led to more stupid damage, but not many ships went down)
Japanese aircraft
B7A Grace x 24
P1Y Frances x 35
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 30
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 31
Japanese aircraft losses
B7A Grace: 4 damaged
P1Y Frances: 8 damaged
Allied Ships
AP Latimer
AP John Penn, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK John B. Kendrick
AP Herald of Morning
AK Billy Sunday, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AP Storm King
AP Ormsby
AP President Monroe, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DMS Dorsey, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP Monrovia
AP De Grasse
AP Barnett, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP William P. Biddle, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Sims
AK James L. Breck
Allied ground losses:
56 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Ulithi at 55,67
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 7
N1K1-J George x 19
P1Y Frances x 2
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 14
Japanese aircraft losses
P1Y Frances: 2 damaged
Allied Ships
AK Boreas
Aircraft Attacking:
2 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Ulithi at 55,67
Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 3
J2M Jack x 5
G4M2 Betty x 2
Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 2 damaged
Allied Ships
BB New Mexico
Aircraft Attacking:
2 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 52,74 (This attack was on my carriers moving back to Hollandia, he got no hits, but we both lost a bunch of planes)
Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 12
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 106
Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 90
F6F Hellcat x 230
Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 12 destroyed
Ki-84-Ia Frank: 106 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 14 destroyed, 12 damaged
F6F Hellcat: 47 destroyed, 14 damaged
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ASW attack at 54,64
Japanese Ships
DD Akishimo
DD Hayashimo
DD Kiyoshimo
DD Asashimo
DD Hamanami
Allied Ships
SS Hoe, hits 4, on fire
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ASW attack at 54,64
Japanese Ships
DD Makigumo
DD Kazegumo
DD Akigumo
DD Yugumo
DD Fuyuzuki
DD Wakazuki
CL Yura
CL Sakawa
Allied Ships
SS Hoe, hits 10, heavy damage
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Ground combat at Kweiyang
Japanese Bombardment attack
Attacking force 123199 troops, 1388 guns, 10 vehicles, Assault Value =
2686
Defending force 95915 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2797
Allied ground losses:
58 casualties reported
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Ground combat at 41,32
Japanese Bombardment attack
Attacking force 94066 troops, 784 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value =
1583
Defending force 27332 troops, 98 guns, 60 vehicles, Assault Value = 786
Allied ground losses:
161 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Ground combat at Chungking
Japanese Bombardment attack
Attacking force 124065 troops, 1561 guns, 6 vehicles, Assault Value =
3747
Defending force 249195 troops, 1095 guns, 48 vehicles, Assault Value =
5768
Allied ground losses:
23 casualties reported
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Ground combat at 42,32
Japanese Bombardment attack
Attacking force 182742 troops, 1387 guns, 3 vehicles, Assault Value =
3258
Defending force 132775 troops, 175 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value =
3822
Allied ground losses:
104 casualties reported
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Ground combat at Ulithi
Japanese Bombardment attack
Attacking force 13222 troops, 68 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 259
Defending force 55502 troops, 465 guns, 12 vehicles, Assault Value =
1039
Allied ground losses:
99 casualties reported
Guns lost 4
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Ground combat at Eniwetok
Allied Bombardment attack
Attacking force 3264 troops, 14 guns, 6 vehicles, Assault Value = 42
Defending force 265 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 8
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Ground combat at Ulithi
Allied Shock attack
Attacking force 50034 troops, 460 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value =
1033
Defending force 15222 troops, 68 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 259
Allied max assault: 570 - adjusted assault: 237
Japanese max defense: 128 - adjusted defense: 46
Allied assault odds: 5 to 1
Japanese ground losses:
800 casualties reported
Guns lost 28
Allied ground losses:
1629 casualties reported
Guns lost 55
So this turn his cv's show up from either the PI or Japan itself. Since I landed air support and seabees with my landing I thought I could have the field in ok shape to put up fighters to defend the ships landed there. Well I guess they did a poor job as non of my pplanes got up into the air. His cv's showed up a long with land air and put 3 cve's into sea. He also got a few more hits on invaison ships, but all reality it could have been worse. He also attacked my cv tf that was sailing back to Hollandia but these guys got no hits. So he almost got his wish of finding my main cv's tired and low on planes but I knew he would come and mass an all out attack. So I will trade a few cv's for him to lose more trained pilots as he is running out of places in China to train them at this point.
So here is the combat report.
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 09/29/44
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ASW attack at 54,64
Japanese Ships
DD Makigumo
DD Kazegumo
DD Akigumo
DD Yugumo
Allied Ships
SS Hoe, hits 3
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Day Air attack on Taung Gyi , at 33,32
Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 32
Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 8 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
98 casualties reported
Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 32
Aircraft Attacking:
20 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 10000 feet
12 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on Rahaeng , at 31,35
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 13
B-25C Mitchell x 15
B-25J Mitchell x 26
Japanese aircraft losses
L3Y Tina: 9 destroyed
L2D2 Tabby: 6 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 1 damaged
B-25J Mitchell: 1 damaged
Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 31
Aircraft Attacking:
15 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
6 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
6 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
8 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 24th Ind.Mixed Brigade, at 55,67
Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 7
FM-2 Wildcat x 5
TBF Avenger x 16
TBM Avenger x 43
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
37 casualties reported
Aircraft Attacking:
4 x TBM Avenger bombing at 20000 feet
4 x TBM Avenger bombing at 20000 feet
4 x TBM Avenger bombing at 20000 feet
4 x TBM Avenger bombing at 20000 feet
3 x TBM Avenger bombing at 20000 feet
4 x TBM Avenger bombing at 20000 feet
2 x TBM Avenger bombing at 20000 feet
2 x TBM Avenger bombing at 20000 feet
2 x TBM Avenger bombing at 20000 feet
2 x TBM Avenger bombing at 20000 feet
2 x TBM Avenger bombing at 20000 feet
4 x TBM Avenger bombing at 20000 feet
8 x TBF Avenger bombing at 20000 feet
8 x TBF Avenger bombing at 20000 feet
1 x TBM Avenger bombing at 20000 feet
1 x TBM Avenger bombing at 20000 feet
1 x TBM Avenger bombing at 20000 feet
1 x TBM Avenger bombing at 20000 feet
1 x TBM Avenger bombing at 20000 feet
1 x TBM Avenger bombing at 20000 feet
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Day Air attack on 40th Chinese Corps, at 41,32
Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 20
Ki-49 Helen x 107
No Japanese losses
Allied ground losses:
111 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Aircraft Attacking:
19 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet
27 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet
18 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet
25 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet
20 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
18 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 8000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 55,66
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 13
N1K1-J George x 31
J2M Jack x 61
G4M2 Betty x 27
P1Y Frances x 14
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 3
Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 4
FM-2 Wildcat x 2
Japanese aircraft losses
J2M Jack: 1 destroyed
G4M2 Betty: 1 destroyed, 8 damaged
P1Y Frances: 7 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 4 destroyed
FM-2 Wildcat: 2 destroyed
Allied Ships
CVE Gambier Bay, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage (would sink later)
CVE Kitkun Bay, Torpedo hits 1, on fire (would sink)
CVE Anzio, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage (would sink)
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 55,66
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 151
D4Y Judy x 205
B6N Jill x 9
B7A Grace x 208
Japanese aircraft losses
D4Y Judy: 4 damaged
B6N Jill: 1 damaged
B7A Grace: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Allied Ships
CVE Gambier Bay, on fire, heavy damage
CVE Kitkun Bay, Bomb hits 9, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DE Crouter
DE Bebas, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DE Whitman, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DE Martin, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
DE Carlson, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DE Parks, Bomb hits 2, on fire
DE Fair
DE Cabana, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DE Austin, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
2 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
2 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
3 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
2 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
2 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
1 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 55,66
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 54
N1K1-J George x 100
D4Y Judy x 38
B7A Grace x 15
G4M2 Betty x 35
P1Y Frances x 24
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 70
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships
CVE Gambier Bay, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
1 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
3 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
1 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 55,66
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 28
D4Y Judy x 62
B6N Jill x 9
B7A Grace x 54
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships
CVE Kitkun Bay, on fire, heavy damage
DE Fleming, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
1 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 55,66
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 6
D4Y Judy x 25
Japanese aircraft losses
D4Y Judy: 5 damaged
Allied Ships
CVE Gambier Bay, on fire, heavy damage
DE Fleming, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Spence, Bomb hits 3, on fire
Aircraft Attacking:
1 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 55,66
Japanese aircraft
B7A Grace x 18
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships
CVE Kitkun Bay, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Ulithi at 55,67 (this is where the CAP did not fly becasue of runway damage)
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 22
N1K1-J George x 60
G4M2 Betty x 9
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 41
Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 11
F6F Hellcat x 4
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 2 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 4 destroyed
G4M2 Betty: 3 destroyed, 3 damaged
Ki-84-Ia Frank: 5 destroyed, 1 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 11 destroyed
F6F Hellcat: 4 destroyed
Allied Ships
BB Alabama
BB Richelieu, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Bennion, Torpedo hits 1
Aircraft Attacking:
1 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Ulithi at 55,67
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 9
N1K1-J George x 27
J2M Jack x 52
G4M2 Betty x 22
P1Y Frances x 6
Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 2 destroyed, 18 damaged
P1Y Frances: 3 damaged
Allied Ships
DMS Lamberton
CA Shropshire, Torpedo hits 2, on fire
DD Hughes
DD Edwards, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AP President Adams
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Ulithi at 55,67 (runway damage led to this)
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 5
N1K1-J George x 12
G4M2 Betty x 21
P1Y Frances x 19
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 9
Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 14 damaged
P1Y Frances: 8 damaged
Allied Ships
AK Jeremiah M. Rusk
AP Barnett
CA Shropshire, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AP Cambria, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP Thomas Jefferson, Torpedo hits 1
DD Edwards, on fire
AP W.A. Holbrook, Torpedo hits 2, on fire
AP Warren, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
Allied ground losses:
58 casualties reported
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Ulithi at 55,67
Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 21
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 12
Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 6 damaged
Allied Ships
AP President Garfield, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AP St. Mihel
AP Arthur Middleton, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Alden
Aircraft Attacking:
1 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Ulithi at 55,67 (No CAP becasue of runway led to more stupid damage, but not many ships went down)
Japanese aircraft
B7A Grace x 24
P1Y Frances x 35
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 30
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 31
Japanese aircraft losses
B7A Grace: 4 damaged
P1Y Frances: 8 damaged
Allied Ships
AP Latimer
AP John Penn, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK John B. Kendrick
AP Herald of Morning
AK Billy Sunday, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AP Storm King
AP Ormsby
AP President Monroe, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DMS Dorsey, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP Monrovia
AP De Grasse
AP Barnett, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP William P. Biddle, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Sims
AK James L. Breck
Allied ground losses:
56 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Ulithi at 55,67
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 7
N1K1-J George x 19
P1Y Frances x 2
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 14
Japanese aircraft losses
P1Y Frances: 2 damaged
Allied Ships
AK Boreas
Aircraft Attacking:
2 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Ulithi at 55,67
Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 3
J2M Jack x 5
G4M2 Betty x 2
Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 2 damaged
Allied Ships
BB New Mexico
Aircraft Attacking:
2 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 52,74 (This attack was on my carriers moving back to Hollandia, he got no hits, but we both lost a bunch of planes)
Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 12
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 106
Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 90
F6F Hellcat x 230
Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 12 destroyed
Ki-84-Ia Frank: 106 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 14 destroyed, 12 damaged
F6F Hellcat: 47 destroyed, 14 damaged
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ASW attack at 54,64
Japanese Ships
DD Akishimo
DD Hayashimo
DD Kiyoshimo
DD Asashimo
DD Hamanami
Allied Ships
SS Hoe, hits 4, on fire
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ASW attack at 54,64
Japanese Ships
DD Makigumo
DD Kazegumo
DD Akigumo
DD Yugumo
DD Fuyuzuki
DD Wakazuki
CL Yura
CL Sakawa
Allied Ships
SS Hoe, hits 10, heavy damage
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Ground combat at Kweiyang
Japanese Bombardment attack
Attacking force 123199 troops, 1388 guns, 10 vehicles, Assault Value =
2686
Defending force 95915 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2797
Allied ground losses:
58 casualties reported
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Ground combat at 41,32
Japanese Bombardment attack
Attacking force 94066 troops, 784 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value =
1583
Defending force 27332 troops, 98 guns, 60 vehicles, Assault Value = 786
Allied ground losses:
161 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Ground combat at Chungking
Japanese Bombardment attack
Attacking force 124065 troops, 1561 guns, 6 vehicles, Assault Value =
3747
Defending force 249195 troops, 1095 guns, 48 vehicles, Assault Value =
5768
Allied ground losses:
23 casualties reported
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Ground combat at 42,32
Japanese Bombardment attack
Attacking force 182742 troops, 1387 guns, 3 vehicles, Assault Value =
3258
Defending force 132775 troops, 175 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value =
3822
Allied ground losses:
104 casualties reported
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Ground combat at Ulithi
Japanese Bombardment attack
Attacking force 13222 troops, 68 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 259
Defending force 55502 troops, 465 guns, 12 vehicles, Assault Value =
1039
Allied ground losses:
99 casualties reported
Guns lost 4
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Ground combat at Eniwetok
Allied Bombardment attack
Attacking force 3264 troops, 14 guns, 6 vehicles, Assault Value = 42
Defending force 265 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 8
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Ground combat at Ulithi
Allied Shock attack
Attacking force 50034 troops, 460 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value =
1033
Defending force 15222 troops, 68 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 259
Allied max assault: 570 - adjusted assault: 237
Japanese max defense: 128 - adjusted defense: 46
Allied assault odds: 5 to 1
Japanese ground losses:
800 casualties reported
Guns lost 28
Allied ground losses:
1629 casualties reported
Guns lost 55
"Ours was the first revolution in the history of mankind that truly reversed the course of government, and with three little words: 'We the people.' 'We the people' tell the government what to do, it doesn't tell us." -Ronald Reagan
RE: Late War Alllied AAR while being way down on Points. Zeta16(a) v. Przemcio231 (j)
Well on the 30th of September Prz sent a surface force into Utilhi, my tf of old battle wagons meet him. The Mississippi did not make it, but they got soem hits in. Other than that there was little damage to my ships at Utilhi. Still trying to rebulid the airfield at Utilhi. In other news now moving on his troops in Burma, He has 25 units at Tai Gui? and I hope to trap them there or make them retreat towards the trail hex south thus making them usless for a long time. While this is going on I will be attcking towards Bangkok. I hope this makes him move troops out of China or even other parts of the Pacific as I move towards Bangkok then Singapore and other parts East.
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 09/30/44
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Ulithi at 55,67
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Japanese aircraft losses
E13A1 Jake: 2 destroyed
Japanese Ships
BB Kongo
BB Kirishima, Shell hits 1
BB Yamato, Shell hits 1
BB Musashi
CA Chikuma, Shell hits 6, and is sunk
CA Takao, Shell hits 8
CA Nachi
CA Kumano, Shell hits 2
DD Akigumo, Shell hits 4, on fire
DD Kazegumo, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Suzunami, Shell hits 1
DD Kishinami, Shell hits 1
DD Asashimo
DD Kiyoshimo
Allied Ships
BB New Mexico, Shell hits 1
BB Mississippi, Shell hits 2
CA Indianapolis, Shell hits 13, on fire, heavy damage
CA Minneapolis, Shell hits 4, on fire
CA San Francisco, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Aulick, Shell hits 13, on fire, heavy damage
DD Bennett, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Black, Shell hits 18, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
DD Boyd, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Bradford, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
DD Braine
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Ulithi at 55,67
Japanese Ships
BB Kongo
BB Kirishima, Shell hits 5, on fire
BB Yamato
BB Musashi
CA Takao, Shell hits 1
CA Nachi
CA Kumano
DD Akigumo, on fire
DD Kazegumo, on fire
DD Suzunami
DD Kishinami
DD Asashimo, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Kiyoshimo
Allied Ships
BB New Mexico
BB Mississippi, Shell hits 4, on fire
CA Indianapolis, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
CA Minneapolis, on fire
CA San Francisco, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Aulick, Shell hits 6, and is sunk
DD Bennett, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Boyd, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Braine
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Ulithi at 55,67
Allied aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft losses
SOC-3 Seagull: 1 destroyed
Japanese Ships
BB Kongo, Shell hits 10, on fire, heavy damage
BB Kirishima, Shell hits 4, on fire
BB Yamato, Shell hits 1
BB Musashi, Shell hits 7
CA Takao
CA Nachi, Shell hits 13
CA Kumano
DD Akigumo, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Kazegumo, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Suzunami, Shell hits 1
DD Kishinami
DD Asashimo, on fire
DD Kiyoshimo
Allied Ships
BB New Mexico, Shell hits 9
BB Mississippi, Shell hits 22, on fire, heavy damage
CA Indianapolis, Shell hits 25, and is sunk
CA Minneapolis, Shell hits 13, and is sunk
CA San Francisco, Shell hits 18, and is sunk
DD Bennett, Shell hits 25, and is sunk
DD Boyd, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Braine, Shell hits 9, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
Here are the plane loses for the day
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"Ours was the first revolution in the history of mankind that truly reversed the course of government, and with three little words: 'We the people.' 'We the people' tell the government what to do, it doesn't tell us." -Ronald Reagan
RE: Late War Alllied AAR while being way down on Points. Zeta16(a) v. Przemcio231 (j)
Interesting situation Zeta. Curious as to when you lost your CVs and the circumstances. Was it during offensive or defensive operations?
"Life is tough, it's even tougher when you're stupid" -SGT John M. Stryker, USMC
RE: Late War Alllied AAR while being way down on Points. Zeta16(a) v. Przemcio231 (j)
ORIGINAL: denisonh
Interesting situation Zeta. Curious as to when you lost your CVs and the circumstances. Was it during offensive or defensive operations?
Well lost the first two around PM at the start of the game. Lost a few around Ndini in trying to bulid a base there to jump towards Solomans Islands. Lost a few around Baker Island taking it back. Lost quite a few CVE's in this operation around Utihi. I had to withdraw my cv's as they took a lot of plane loses so he jumps in with his CV's at this point. The base at Utilhi could not recover airfield damage in time and he had a field day with the CVE's as the FM's suck and one hit almost sinks the cve. So he roamed around Utilhi while I was getting more planes and pilots for my CV's and the airfield some how in 3 or 4 turns did not repair with Seebee's there at all. So by the time I come back to play from Hollandia he is long gone. He is good at coming into action when I have started to lose planes from land attacks and thus my numbers get lower.
So some day I will get his carriers, once Utilhi is bulit up better I will control that area as he has lost a lot of planes in the battle so far, but so have I. However, I have a lot units and replacements that are better than what he has. I think I may see his cv's when I move on the southern PI, however he may not be able to replace his loses that fast as training is no harder for him in China. So for the rest of the war he will always show up if and only if he has some sort of an advantage.
"Ours was the first revolution in the history of mankind that truly reversed the course of government, and with three little words: 'We the people.' 'We the people' tell the government what to do, it doesn't tell us." -Ronald Reagan
RE: Late War Alllied AAR while being way down on Points. Zeta16(a) v. Przemcio231 (j)
"we have a house rule of only 500 planes in sea hex"
At the battle of the Philippine Sea, with 8 CVs and 7 CVLs present, the USN had approximately 945 aircraft 'in sea hex'. It was the concentration of force which historically enabled Spruance to beat the LBA threat and then the enemy carriers in turn.
Your house rule puts a real crimp on what Mr Churchill called "the proper application of brute force", something central to my "jugular strategy" - which simply skips a couple of steps rather than being completely novel.
It was also very sporting of you not to apply the rule to the Japanese player.
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 151
D4Y Judy x 205
B6N Jill x 9
B7A Grace x 208
= 573 aircraft, and its reasonable to infer less than a 100% sortie rate and zeros at home on cap.
"we have a house rule of only 500 planes in sea hex"
At the battle of the Philippine Sea, with 8 CVs and 7 CVLs present, the USN had approximately 945 aircraft 'in sea hex'. It was the concentration of force which historically enabled Spruance to beat the LBA threat and then the enemy carriers in turn.
Your house rule puts a real crimp on what Mr Churchill called "the proper application of brute force", something central to my "jugular strategy" - which simply skips a couple of steps rather than being completely novel.
It was also very sporting of you not to apply the rule to the Japanese player.
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 151
D4Y Judy x 205
B6N Jill x 9
B7A Grace x 208
= 573 aircraft, and its reasonable to infer less than a 100% sortie rate and zeros at home on cap.
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RE: Late War Alllied AAR while being way down on Points. Zeta16(a) v. Przemcio231 (j)
Sea hex meaning CV based I think...the list above are land based I believe.ORIGINAL: Ian R
"we have a house rule of only 500 planes in sea hex"
At the battle of the Philippine Sea, with 8 CVs and 7 CVLs present, the USN had approximately 945 aircraft 'in sea hex'. It was the concentration of force which historically enabled Spruance to beat the LBA threat and then the enemy carriers in turn.
Your house rule puts a real crimp on what Mr Churchill called "the proper application of brute force", something central to my "jugular strategy" - which simply skips a couple of steps rather than being completely novel.
It was also very sporting of you not to apply the rule to the Japanese player.
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 151
D4Y Judy x 205
B6N Jill x 9
B7A Grace x 208
= 573 aircraft, and its reasonable to infer less than a 100% sortie rate and zeros at home on cap.
Lee
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RE: Late War Alllied AAR while being way down on Points. Zeta16(a) v. Przemcio231 (j)
Lee, I thought Zeta said the KB showed up that turn - all the other air combats seemed to have LBA such as Betties, Franks or Franceses (sp?) in them so I thought that must have been it.
"I am Alfred"
RE: Late War Alllied AAR while being way down on Points. Zeta16(a) v. Przemcio231 (j)
How quick did you start your "counter offensive"?
Just trying to get a feeling for the "proximate causes" for the deficeincy in CVs which really hampered your ability to counterattack before mid 43.
Also have to say it is an intelligence gathering exersize for my PBEM against Prz[:D]
Just trying to get a feeling for the "proximate causes" for the deficeincy in CVs which really hampered your ability to counterattack before mid 43.
Also have to say it is an intelligence gathering exersize for my PBEM against Prz[:D]
ORIGINAL: Zeta16
ORIGINAL: denisonh
Interesting situation Zeta. Curious as to when you lost your CVs and the circumstances. Was it during offensive or defensive operations?
Well lost the first two around PM at the start of the game. Lost a few around Ndini in trying to bulid a base there to jump towards Solomans Islands. Lost a few around Baker Island taking it back. Lost quite a few CVE's in this operation around Utihi. I had to withdraw my cv's as they took a lot of plane loses so he jumps in with his CV's at this point. The base at Utilhi could not recover airfield damage in time and he had a field day with the CVE's as the FM's suck and one hit almost sinks the cve. So he roamed around Utilhi while I was getting more planes and pilots for my CV's and the airfield some how in 3 or 4 turns did not repair with Seebee's there at all. So by the time I come back to play from Hollandia he is long gone. He is good at coming into action when I have started to lose planes from land attacks and thus my numbers get lower.
So some day I will get his carriers, once Utilhi is bulit up better I will control that area as he has lost a lot of planes in the battle so far, but so have I. However, I have a lot units and replacements that are better than what he has. I think I may see his cv's when I move on the southern PI, however he may not be able to replace his loses that fast as training is no harder for him in China. So for the rest of the war he will always show up if and only if he has some sort of an advantage.
"Life is tough, it's even tougher when you're stupid" -SGT John M. Stryker, USMC