Med Wars! - Chuck vs Nik

[ctangus]

I've volunteered to help Nik test his version of fremen's excellent War in the Med mod.

I'll be defending the English-speaking peoples and all that's right and good against the evil fascist log hordes of Nikademus.

Relevant settings:

Sub auto off
Sub doctrines off
Damage control bonus off.
Advanced weather off.

[ctangus]

I didn't issue too many orders for the first turn. I upped the CAP % at Malta (to 60%) and staggered the altitude of the defenders some. Sent most of my subs out of port. I'm flying some recon in order to figure out what I'm facing.

Here's a screenshot showing the unconquerable defenders of Malta:

[Nikademus]

he only needs to issue one order.

Surrender.

-El Duche

[:)]

[Speedysteve]

I see you've sold out Nik and don't require Pauk and my effort anymore[;)]
 
Good luck Chuck[:)]
 
Nik sucks.

[DuckofTindalos]

Il Logboy rides again!

[Nikademus]

ORIGINAL: Speedy

I see you've sold out Nik and don't require Pauk and my effort anymore[;)]

Good luck Chuck[:)]

Nik sucks.

Its all very complicated. this mod needs alot of playtesting help and I can't risk such a GLORIOUS venture on slowpoke Brits who suck and lose Tiger tanks to Italian M-13's reqularily in SP games.

[DuckofTindalos]

Oh yes, very complicated... Don't forget "Speedy" also loses in SP when playing the British against the Italians...

[Nikademus]

Speedy could lose even if you gave him E-100's and pitted them up against disabled Char-B's

[DuckofTindalos]

With "disabled" meaning "immobilized and with one empty machinegun each"...

[Speedysteve]

ORIGINAL: Terminus

Oh yes, very complicated... Don't forget "Speedy" also loses in SP when playing the British against the Italians...

Do you rememebr that BS mate?[:D]

Am I gonna kick your arse on other PBEMs in future?

[DuckofTindalos]

I'm sure you'll be "too busy"...[:'(]

[Speedysteve]

At present............yes[:'(]

[Nikademus]

El Duche...supported by the little Austrian corporal, launch a new offensive in the Med.......its the new Roman Empire baby.....

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/01/42

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Day Air attack on 9th Indian Brigade, at 45,130

Japanese aircraft
Ju-87 B (Ger) x 18

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
136 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x Ju-87 B (Ger) bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Barce , at 45,127

Japanese aircraft
Bf-109F-4 Trop x 13
Ju-87 D (Ger) x 21

Japanese aircraft losses
Ju-87 D (Ger): 3 destroyed, 15 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x Ju-87 D (Ger) bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Barce , at 45,127

Japanese aircraft
Ju-88A-4 x 32

Japanese aircraft losses
Ju-88A-4: 1 destroyed, 8 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x Ju-88A-4 bombing at 15000 feet
15 x Ju-88A-4 bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on Barce , at 45,127

Japanese aircraft
BR 20 M x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
BR 20 M: 4 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x BR 20 M bombing at 15000 feet
6 x BR 20 M bombing at 15000 feet
3 x BR 20 M bombing at 15000 feet
3 x BR 20 M bombing at 15000 feet
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Typically....the Axis immediately launch a massive series of attacks on the bastion of Malta. Not alot of damage reported on the ground [thx to all the engineers + the higher alt] but casualties in the air and on the runway are substantial.


Day Air attack on Malta , at 35,120

Japanese aircraft
MC-200 x 21
Bf-109F-4 x 21
MC-202 x 23
Re-2001 x 20
BR 20 M x 33
Ju-88A-4 x 20

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc x 23
Spitfire Vc x 8
Beaufighter X x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
MC-200: 3 destroyed
Bf-109F-4: 2 damaged
MC-202: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
Re-2001: 6 destroyed, 8 damaged
BR 20 M: 5 damaged
Ju-88A-4: 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIc: 11 destroyed, 2 damaged
Spitfire Vc: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged
Beaufighter X: 5 damaged
Beaufighter VIF: 1 destroyed
Sunderland: 1 destroyed

Runway hits 17

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x Ju-88A-4 bombing at 25000 feet
13 x BR 20 M bombing at 25000 feet
6 x BR 20 M bombing at 25000 feet
3 x Ju-88A-4 bombing at 25000 feet
6 x BR 20 M bombing at 25000 feet
2 x Ju-88A-4 bombing at 25000 feet
3 x BR 20 M bombing at 25000 feet
5 x BR 20 M bombing at 25000 feet
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Day Air attack on Malta , at 35,120

Japanese aircraft
Bf-109F-4 Trop x 12
Ju-88A-4 x 7

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc x 6
Spitfire Vc x 3
Beaufighter X x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Bf-109F-4 Trop: 1 damaged
Ju-88A-4: 7 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIc: 4 destroyed
Spitfire Vc: 3 destroyed
Beaufighter X: 3 damaged


Allied ground losses:
14 casualties reported

Runway hits 9

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Ju-88A-4 bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on Malta , at 35,120

Japanese aircraft
CR-42 x 15
SM 84 x 3

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc x 6
Spitfire Vc x 2
Beaufighter X x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
CR-42: 1 damaged
SM 84: 3 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIc: 4 destroyed
Spitfire Vc: 1 destroyed
Beaufighter X: 1 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x SM 84 bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on Malta , at 35,120

Japanese aircraft
MC-200 x 11
MC-202 x 15
Z-1007 Bis x 9

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc x 1
Spitfire Vc x 2
Beaufighter X x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
Z-1007 Bis: 1 destroyed, 7 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIc: 1 destroyed
Beaufighter X: 3 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 6

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Z-1007 Bis bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on Agedabia , at 44,131

Japanese aircraft
Bf-109F-4 Trop x 17

Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
Bf-109F-4 Trop: 6 damaged


Japanese ground losses:
14 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Wellington III bombing at 15000 feet
2 x Wellington III bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 15000 feet
5 x Wellington III bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on Agedabia , at 44,131

Japanese aircraft
Bf-109F-4 Trop x 8

Allied aircraft
Liberator II x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
Bf-109F-4 Trop: 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator II: 1 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Liberator II bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Liberator II bombing at 15000 feet
2 x Liberator II bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on Tobruk , at 50,128

Japanese aircraft
SM 79 T x 24
Bf-109F-4 Trop x 24
Z-1007 Bis x 36

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk I x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
Z-1007 Bis: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk I: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Z-1007 Bis bombing at 20000 feet
9 x Z-1007 Bis bombing at 20000 feet
4 x SM 79 T bombing at 20000 feet
6 x Z-1007 Bis bombing at 20000 feet
3 x Z-1007 Bis bombing at 20000 feet
8 x SM 79 T bombing at 20000 feet
6 x SM 79 T bombing at 20000 feet
3 x Z-1007 Bis bombing at 20000 feet
3 x Z-1007 Bis bombing at 20000 feet
2 x Z-1007 Bis bombing at 20000 feet
3 x Z-1007 Bis bombing at 20000 feet
3 x SM 79 T bombing at 20000 feet
3 x Z-1007 Bis bombing at 20000 feet
3 x SM 79 T bombing at 20000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 39,112


Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 3
Wellington III x 3


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
DD Alpino
DD Ascari

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 15000 feet


Total losses for the day:

Axis

10 - A2A
11 - Flak
2 - op losses due to damage

total of 23 aircraft

Allied

25 - A2A
10 - Ground

total of 35 aircraft.






Comments

Its a bit early to start i suppose but first impressions and all can still be important;

1) Looks like Italian AV may still be too generous. There's so much 'stretch' in the AV that even though the primary Italian airbase is well under the required support requirement i have few damaged aircraft.

2) Unless Fremen's done some kind of metric conversion....there's something seriously off in regards to surface ship speeds. My Italian BB's have speeds of 36 - 54kts. The merchants have 22 kts. This 'may' explain Pauk's comment about it being too easy to supply North Africa....this is beyond Tokyo Express.

3) Aircraft ranges seem equally strange now that i seem them on screen, in action. Most Italian aircraft have ranges greater than G4M's.....you can hit virtually anywhere on the map from any point. I have Greek Island based Italians hitting North Africa.....Italy based planes hitting North Africa......Alexander? based bombers hitting El Alg.....etc. its a very small lake, is this Med.

4) Some of the aircraft stats probably need some adjustment.

5) Thinking that starting replacement pools, aircraft , supply and esp fuel might need some downtuning. The Italians complained about shortages of fuel oil in particular though it remains a source of great debate on how authentic a complaint this was. (Germans were always suspicioius...having shipped generous quantities of oil to Italy throughout their alliance...yet seeing little in returns vis-a-vis Italian fleet action)

6) AA seems to have a bite now. [:'(]

7) Nik is an awesome Duche.

[Nikademus]

I probably should put a good number of these generous Italian aircraft numbers in a more proper servicable/unservicable ratio as well. Sometimes an obvious point can be staring one right in the face. A problem for Malta right off the bat is that it has an entire Italian airforce with 100% servicability sitting off it's front porch. It has a pronounced impact. While Malta put up a good fight initially subsequent raids betrayed the defenders fatigue more and more till even the Cr-42's were able to bag a couple more Hurricanes...their tired pilots asleep at the wheel.

[DuckofTindalos]

I seem to remember that the map is considered to be at 30-mile scale. And while it can't be scaled to that, the ship speed is meant to equate to a 60-mile scale being 30-mile scale...

[DuckofTindalos]

7) Nik is an awesome Duche

An awesome Douche Bag...

[Nikademus]

ah...that would explain it a bit.

the ranges still seem a bit on the high side. hmmm

[Nikademus]

ORIGINAL: Terminus

7) Nik is an awesome Duche

An awesome Douche Bag...

jelous(tm)

[DuckofTindalos]

No(tm), Douche Bag(tm)...[:'(]

[Nikademus]

quit spamming my AAR or i'll tell......