Black Powder Wars

[Monkeys Brain]

ORIGINAL: Capitaine

[>:]

Agree with that [;)] But, on another note I found my post amusing to read afterwards, I don't know why, maybe it's just my gorgeus writing styles... ah...


Mario

[freeboy]

Well, in the Us a kid goes t oa movie, and spens over 20.00 on ticcket, one, popcorn and a soda.. so here 40.00 is not much, perhaps in MB land it is, sorry for that. I reitterate it is about forward momentum and selling great products, to get there one needs veriety and creativity, thus the lemons and the limes to boot with all the great ones! no offence you limies out there[:D]

MB... you are beating a dead horse.. simply because you think these games are pricey.. which is reletive, is fine. Remember with inflation in 1985 dollars this 40.00 figure would be what, like 27.50?

[cdbeck]

ORIGINAL: Monkeys Brain
I have invented term niche within niche for wargames which is now cited lol So I don't know anything about wargames LOL and I need lecturers like you.

That is a pretty big claim, to have coined the term niche for wargames. I quit reading right here. No point arguing.

I'm off this sinking ship of a thread,
SoM

[Monkeys Brain]

ORIGINAL: freeboy

Well, in the Us a kid goes t oa movie, and spens over 20.00 on ticcket, one, popcorn and a soda.. so here 40.00 is not much, perhaps in MB land it is, sorry for that. I reitterate it is about forward momentum and selling great products, to get there one needs veriety and creativity, thus the lemons and the limes to boot with all the great ones! no offence you limies out there[:D]

MB... you are beating a dead horse.. simply because you think these games are pricey.. which is reletive, is fine. Remember with inflation in 1985 dollars this 40.00 figure would be what, like 27.50?

Freeboy,


I don't know but it's kind of lame (sorry freeboy) to say to someone that his country is poor and that maybe that is the reason for my arguments. Sorry but that is lame. My responsibility is not country where I live - and I am not living with poor standard and my business that I prepare (something different) will attract fresh French capital (no, it's not diary industry and anything related with Lactalis hehe). So this has nothing to do with country where I live. In fact - I live in Croatia, but I am cosmopolite and anational. You will never see me boast how I am Croat and for example nationalist, never. So I am talking only in global, worldwide relations, not some poor local relations. I am not that stupid or shortsighted.

Yes, we can, even say that this game is cheap! See, you can get your enjoyment for 40$. That is completely missed point.

See, there are some principles. And if I am not right then why some people send me emails to support me and tell me that I am right? Obviously different people have different approach to this.

What I found fascinating is that I am like a mule sometimes. But even that is not terrible because it's a matter of principles that you don't get it. It's not about one cent, 10 dollars or million dollars. It's about principle. And when it is about principle then
1st SS Panzer division cannot move me an inch from my position.

So world is moving and nothing is stopping, someone say that they agree with me and some say that they don't agree with me and no problem.

But I will send regards to one big important figure in wargaming business that agree with me and that is important for me.

But please this is not a game show stopper. We exchanged our views and that's it. Nothing melodramatic.


Mario

[Monkeys Brain]

ORIGINAL: Son_of_Montfort

ORIGINAL: Monkeys Brain
I have invented term niche within niche for wargames which is now cited lol So I don't know anything about wargames LOL and I need lecturers like you.

That is a pretty big claim, to have coined the term niche for wargames. I quit reading right here. No point arguing.

I'm off this sinking ship of a thread,
SoM

SoM,

I didn't said that I have invented term niche for wargames. But, yes I have invented term "NICHE WITHIN NICHE" (TM - trade mark here). Amusing, I found people now telling same term NICHE WITHIN NICHE, but that was from me. (proud) LOLZ

Another term that I invented and that I have seen some use is this:

MCDONALDIZATION OF COMPUTER GAMES. (again TM). That is when I saw remake of Sid Meier's Pirates.


Mario

[Terminus]

You sure invented a lot of stuff...

[Monkeys Brain]

ORIGINAL: Terminus

You sure invented a lot of stuff...

Sarcasm? LOLZ
I am talking about terms and as English is my second language it is nice when this Balkan redneck like me invent a term in English language LOLZ

Good Danish cookies with Copenhagen on it's tin box is not my invention LOLZ


Mario

[Monkeys Brain]

ORIGINAL: Terminus

You sure invented a lot of stuff...

Another thing....

Well fast rewind to 1994. or 1995. I have written to SSI and said to them "Panzer General is a 5-Star game"... Not much time has passed SSI send me a 5-Star badges and I see that they named whole series of games after this. I cannot 100% say that they used this my letter to name a full series but I know that first SSI games in that engine were not 5-Star Series and just later on. Maybe just small coincidence.

So maybe I am Godfather to that series name as well LOLZ. Maybe.



Mario

PS. 5-Star term is in fact musical terms and older crowd here maybe know it. In fact i borrowed this from one interview where one rock star say "5 star bands" or something like that... so it is music business term.

[robpost3]

I on the other hand invented the internet single handedly one night by combining a Mr. Coffee, two cans of Dinty Moore Beef Stew and and the spare parts from a mid 70's Pinto.

[cdbeck]

The 5-star system in this case has nothing to do with you nor the music business. It has long been a classification system for senior military ranks (4-star general, 5-star general, etc.) It is also a way to rank hotels, movies, TV shows, etc, and has been used internationally for decades if not more (at least since WWII).

But in SSI's case, the 5-star reference is coming from the Senior Military ranking system... the game IS called Panzer General after all.

Remember the difference between coincidence and correlation.

I would refer you to the biblical passage Proverbs 10:14 before making any further claims.

SoM

[Monkeys Brain]

ORIGINAL: robpost3

I on the other hand invented the internet single handedly one night by combining a Mr. Coffee, two cans of Dinty Moore Beef Stew and and the spare parts from a mid 70's Pinto.

LOLZ

OK, I've got the message, I'll stop to trivialize this world wide known thread [8D]

OK, I also had enough of this. Maybe it's better idea to get drunk tonight [:'(]


Mario

[robpost3]

OK, I also had enough of this. Maybe it's better idea to get drunk tonight

Agreed...
Heres to you...

[dinsdale]

ORIGINAL: robpost3

I on the other hand invented the internet single handedly one night by combining a Mr. Coffee, two cans of Dinty Moore Beef Stew and and the spare parts from a mid 70's Pinto.

Mr Gore, welcome to the forum

[robpost3]

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[Monkeys Brain]

ORIGINAL: Son_of_Montfort

The 5-star system in this case has nothing to do with you nor the music business. It has long been a classification system for senior military ranks (4-star general, 5-star general, etc.) It is also a way to rank hotels, movies, TV shows, etc, and has been used internationally for decades if not more (at least since WWII).

But in SSI's case, the 5-star reference is coming from the Senior Military ranking system... the game IS called Panzer General after all.

Remember the difference between coincidence and correlation.

I would refer you to the biblical passage Proverbs 10:14 before making any further claims.

SoM

Well, all right SoM... I said that it was - maybe - but just as I said it was strange coincident. Mind you - I had excellent cooperation with SSI... always kind of missed SSI... some of workforce went to Capcom as they are also in Sunnyvale, CA.
Investigate a little bit - 1st Panzer General was not 5-star game.
After my letter bingo - there is exactly same name. I say, just a strange coincidence then.


And thank you for putting biblical passage to me - a mere reminder to me how mortal we are. You have used it to mock me for my boasting heh - and that's fine I should not boast or talk trivialities well...

But I am wise and intelligent and that is not boasting, that is just my wise & beautyfull Balkan genom LOLZ (in the sea of stupid genoms also on the Balkans haha). See, you must know that The Balkans is navel of the world. That you shouldn't forget and how powerful that might be. And you in USA are not even aware of that.
Better to be open to the world.
Edit: just to be quite open - we have also here in Europe took many influences from USA and we are not ungrateful as some may think. That is in fact maybe a way for better world tomorrow who knows...


Mario

[Monkeys Brain]

ORIGINAL: robpost3

OK, I also had enough of this. Maybe it's better idea to get drunk tonight

Agreed...
Heres to you...

Ah thank you!





Mario

[cdbeck]

The Balkans, are, indeed a nice place. I live in what used to be little Italy, but is now Little Albania. They seem to be nice people.

Just be forewarned... a little Nationalism can go a long way. Especially because ALL nationalism (not just the Balkan type) is a manufactured history based on a misinterpretation of fact in order to further some political purpose put forward by an organized state (typically in opposition to another organized state). I'm a big follower of Benedict Anderson and his book Imagined Communities.

In essence... I believe the naval of the world is where each person wants it to be, because, we all believe that individually we are the center of the universe.

Ask any New Yorker... they will tell you from where civilization sprang (the polluted soup of the East River may have sentience).

SoM

[Monkeys Brain]

ORIGINAL: Son_of_Montfort

The Balkans, are, indeed a nice place. I live in what used to be little Italy, but is now Little Albania. They seem to be nice people.

Just be forewarned... a little Nationalism can go a long way. Especially because ALL nationalism (not just the Balkan type) is a manufactured history based on a misinterpretation of fact in order to further some political purpose put forward by an organized state (typically in opposition to another organized state). I'm a big follower of Benedict Anderson and his book Imagined Communities.

In essence... I believe the naval of the world is where each person wants it to be, because, we all believe that individually we are the center of the universe.

Ask any New Yorker... they will tell you from where civilization sprang (the polluted soup of the East River may have sentience).

SoM

I can agree with that and will say that you are also wise man. Indeed. And really.

I am big opposition to any nationalism. The world is in fact moving (SLOWLY, VERY SLOWLY) to destruction of ALL STATES in the world.

From this position I will say that this is in fact good thing. What we must do is to colonize other planets - take space shuttles and navigate to first black hole and go straight to the bottom LOLZ

The Balkans had really bad luck. It was 1990. fall of communism all around and in fact our political elites made a very bad choice going to the route of nationalism. They just needed to look around, take Swiss model of cantonization for example and make big decentralization so that any entity stop getting a feeling that THOSE OTHERS are living on their expense.

But all factors who had a little brain didn't even had a chance. Big pitty. That is big defeat in fact. They also didn't listened to Santayana "Those who do not remember history are condemned to repeat it."

About nationalism one other thing - in small dosage it is not so harmfull - because I can also stand it if we all try to see it as some sort of COMPETITION in GOOD THINGS. But not in bad things of course.


Mario


PS. When I was getting back in the morning, half drunk and see taxi slowly moving in front of me. Instead of running I think "there will be another"... as this is not new york there is not another cab around... This is what happened to the Balkans - same missed chance - and clearly lost 30-50 years

[robpost3]

(the polluted soup of the East River may have sentience).

You cannot drown in the East River but you can suffocate!!! (Disc world humor)
ahhh my old New York...how is she SoM...I miss Ballatos, Ollies Noodle House...have you been to the Cloisters yet?

[Skeleton]

I have never, for the life of me, understood this argument in any of its different angles. One does not go into a store, argue with the sales clerks and store manager about the price of an item, does one? Rather, if I find a price to be outrageous or inflated to the point that I find unacceptable, I do one thing, or really, I don't do one thing; I DON'T PURCHASE THAT ITEM. Very simple, makes just just as much of a point and does not fall on deaf ears. I find this board a breath of fresh air. You can ask questions (even something as sacred as to when regarding a release date) and you don't get attacked. More often then not, the developer will even answer your question and without all of the "it is not just a game, but a passion" garbage responses you get elsewhere. Cheers to you Matrix, you guys are a class act and if I ever find a price too expensive, I won't bombard your boards with my opinion, I will just express that opinion with a "I'll pass" on this one.