
Med Wars! Part DU - Benito Barney vs Chuck
Moderators: wdolson, Don Bowen, mogami
RE: Day 2 of the liberation of Club Med
Flak is hitting us hard over Malta, coupled with the less than optimal efficiency of the home base but we've still got plenty of planes to put into the air


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Let me guess, what BB1A Barney drops is designed to discourage the engineers from going out to repair the runways, right?
Yes - what it drops is an evil psy-war cluster bomb. The bomblets are small speakers singing "I luv you. You luv me. We're a happy family." Surely it must be against the Geneva convention.
Well, taking out the turret on Conte di Cavour was surely nice. And the damage to Malta didn't get any worse (didn't get any better, either) - it's still at 0 airfield & 26 service damage.
My Malta airgroups are shredded, though. By all rights I should be pulling out, but the Hurris and Spits can only fly as far east as Barce and there's no aviation support there. A base force was already ordered to Barce and is 4 days away. I'll try to fight for at least one more day, though I can't say I'm hopeful.

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ORIGINAL: ctangus
ORIGINAL: bradfordkay
Let me guess, what BB1A Barney drops is designed to discourage the engineers from going out to repair the runways, right?
Yes - what it drops is an evil psy-war cluster bomb. The bomblets are small speakers singing "I luv you. You luv me. We're a happy family." Surely it must be against the Geneva convention.
Sounds like something that warrants its own separate protocol in the Geneva conventions...
We are all dreams of the Giant Space Butterfly.
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ORIGINAL: Terminus
ORIGINAL: ctangus
ORIGINAL: bradfordkay
Let me guess, what BB1A Barney drops is designed to discourage the engineers from going out to repair the runways, right?
Yes - what it drops is an evil psy-war cluster bomb. The bomblets are small speakers singing "I luv you. You luv me. We're a happy family." Surely it must be against the Geneva convention.
Sounds like something that warrants its own separate protocol in the Geneva conventions...
Certainly. Also, a special penalty is being considered for the upcoming Nuremberg trials. Life imprisonment, being forced to listen to Abba 24/7...
RE: Warspite on Steroids
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/03/42
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ASW attack at 41,120
Japanese Ships
DD Lanciere
DD Fuciliere
DD Bersagliere
DD Aviere
DD Ascari
DD Alpino
BB Vittorio Veneto
Allied Ships
SS Upholder
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HO! HO! I LUV U Herr Ubooter.
Sub attack at 49,125
Japanese Ships
SS U-371
Allied Ships
DD Hero, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
DD Isis
DD Inconstant
DD Griffin
CL Leander
CL Ajax
CL Liverpool
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Sub attack at 41,120
Japanese Ships
AK Ramb IV
AK Trapani
DE Calliope
DE Perseo
DE Climene
DE Castore
DD Alfredo Oriani
DD Vincenzo Gioberti
DD Turbine
Allied Ships
SS Upholder
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Day Air attack on 9th Indian Brigade, at 45,130
Japanese aircraft
MC-200 x 9
Ju-87 B (Ger) x 15
No Japanese losses
Allied ground losses:
25 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Aircraft Attacking:
15 x Ju-87 B (Ger) bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 9th Indian Brigade, at 45,130
Japanese aircraft
Bf-109F-4 Trop x 13
Ju-87 D (Ger) x 21
No Japanese losses
Allied ground losses:
93 casualties reported
Aircraft Attacking:
21 x Ju-87 D (Ger) bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 41,120
Allied aircraft
Beaufort I x 4
No Allied losses
Japanese Ships
DE Calliope
Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Beaufort I launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 41,120
Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk I x 3
Wellington III x 5
Beaufort I x 3
Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 1 damaged
Beaufort I: 3 damaged
Japanese Ships
BB Conte di Cavour
BB Andrea Doria
BB Vittorio Veneto
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Wellington III bombing at 10000 feet
2 x Wellington III bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Beaufort I launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on Malta , at 35,120
Japanese aircraft
MC-200 x 11
Bf-109F-4 x 18
MC-202 x 18
Re-2001 x 16
BR 20 M x 26
Ju-88A-4 x 12
Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc x 7
Spitfire Vc x 1
Kittyhawk I x 3
Japanese aircraft losses
MC-200: 1 damaged
Re-2001: 3 damaged
BR 20 M: 16 damaged
Ju-88A-4: 6 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIc: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged
Spitfire Vc: 1 damaged
Kittyhawk I: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Beaufighter VIF: 1 destroyed
Beaufighter X: 1 destroyed
Allied ground losses:
21 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 11
Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ju-88A-4 bombing at 22000 feet
3 x BR 20 M bombing at 22000 feet
6 x BR 20 M bombing at 22000 feet
8 x BR 20 M bombing at 22000 feet
3 x Ju-88A-4 bombing at 22000 feet
3 x BR 20 M bombing at 22000 feet
3 x BR 20 M bombing at 22000 feet
3 x Ju-88A-4 bombing at 22000 feet
3 x BR 20 M bombing at 22000 feet
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Day Air attack on Malta , at 35,120
Japanese aircraft
Bf-109F-4 Trop x 23
Ju-88A-4 x 32
Allied aircraft
no flights
Japanese aircraft losses
Ju-88A-4: 11 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire Vc: 1 destroyed
Hurricane IIc: 1 destroyed
Beaufighter X: 1 destroyed
Allied ground losses:
19 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 14
Aircraft Attacking:
5 x Ju-88A-4 bombing at 23000 feet
10 x Ju-88A-4 bombing at 23000 feet
4 x Ju-88A-4 bombing at 23000 feet
3 x Ju-88A-4 bombing at 23000 feet
2 x Ju-88A-4 bombing at 23000 feet
3 x Ju-88A-4 bombing at 23000 feet
2 x Ju-88A-4 bombing at 23000 feet
3 x Ju-88A-4 bombing at 23000 feet
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Day Air attack on Malta , at 35,120
Japanese aircraft
CR-42 x 12
SM 84 x 7
SM 79 x 30
Allied aircraft
no flights
Japanese aircraft losses
SM 84: 3 damaged
SM 79 : 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 1 destroyed
Hurricane IIc: 1 destroyed
Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 4
Aircraft Attacking:
11 x SM 79 bombing at 22000 feet
5 x SM 79 bombing at 22000 feet
5 x SM 79 bombing at 22000 feet
4 x SM 84 bombing at 22000 feet
3 x SM 79 bombing at 22000 feet
3 x SM 79 bombing at 22000 feet
3 x SM 84 bombing at 22000 feet
2 x SM 79 bombing at 22000 feet
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Day Air attack on Malta , at 35,120
Japanese aircraft
MC-200 x 20
MC-202 x 22
Bf-110D-3 x 19
Z-1007 Bis x 10
Japanese aircraft losses
Z-1007 Bis: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
Airbase hits 1
Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Z-1007 Bis bombing at 25000 feet
3 x Z-1007 Bis bombing at 25000 feet
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ACK! I DON'T LUV U!
Sub attack at 49,125
Japanese Ships
SS U-371
Allied Ships
BB Valiant ARRRGGG......Had her in my sights!!!!!!!!
DD Eclipse
DD Raider
DD Tartar
DD Zulu
DD Bedouin
DD Maori
BB Warspite
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ASW attack at 41,120
Japanese Ships
DD Lanciere
DD Fuciliere
DD Bersagliere
DD Aviere
DD Ascari
DD Alpino
BB Vittorio Veneto
Allied Ships
SS Upholder
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HO! HO! I LUV U Herr Ubooter.
Sub attack at 49,125
Japanese Ships
SS U-371
Allied Ships
DD Hero, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
DD Isis
DD Inconstant
DD Griffin
CL Leander
CL Ajax
CL Liverpool
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Sub attack at 41,120
Japanese Ships
AK Ramb IV
AK Trapani
DE Calliope
DE Perseo
DE Climene
DE Castore
DD Alfredo Oriani
DD Vincenzo Gioberti
DD Turbine
Allied Ships
SS Upholder
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Day Air attack on 9th Indian Brigade, at 45,130
Japanese aircraft
MC-200 x 9
Ju-87 B (Ger) x 15
No Japanese losses
Allied ground losses:
25 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Aircraft Attacking:
15 x Ju-87 B (Ger) bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 9th Indian Brigade, at 45,130
Japanese aircraft
Bf-109F-4 Trop x 13
Ju-87 D (Ger) x 21
No Japanese losses
Allied ground losses:
93 casualties reported
Aircraft Attacking:
21 x Ju-87 D (Ger) bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 41,120
Allied aircraft
Beaufort I x 4
No Allied losses
Japanese Ships
DE Calliope
Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Beaufort I launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 41,120
Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk I x 3
Wellington III x 5
Beaufort I x 3
Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 1 damaged
Beaufort I: 3 damaged
Japanese Ships
BB Conte di Cavour
BB Andrea Doria
BB Vittorio Veneto
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Wellington III bombing at 10000 feet
2 x Wellington III bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Beaufort I launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on Malta , at 35,120
Japanese aircraft
MC-200 x 11
Bf-109F-4 x 18
MC-202 x 18
Re-2001 x 16
BR 20 M x 26
Ju-88A-4 x 12
Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc x 7
Spitfire Vc x 1
Kittyhawk I x 3
Japanese aircraft losses
MC-200: 1 damaged
Re-2001: 3 damaged
BR 20 M: 16 damaged
Ju-88A-4: 6 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIc: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged
Spitfire Vc: 1 damaged
Kittyhawk I: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Beaufighter VIF: 1 destroyed
Beaufighter X: 1 destroyed
Allied ground losses:
21 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 11
Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ju-88A-4 bombing at 22000 feet
3 x BR 20 M bombing at 22000 feet
6 x BR 20 M bombing at 22000 feet
8 x BR 20 M bombing at 22000 feet
3 x Ju-88A-4 bombing at 22000 feet
3 x BR 20 M bombing at 22000 feet
3 x BR 20 M bombing at 22000 feet
3 x Ju-88A-4 bombing at 22000 feet
3 x BR 20 M bombing at 22000 feet
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Day Air attack on Malta , at 35,120
Japanese aircraft
Bf-109F-4 Trop x 23
Ju-88A-4 x 32
Allied aircraft
no flights
Japanese aircraft losses
Ju-88A-4: 11 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire Vc: 1 destroyed
Hurricane IIc: 1 destroyed
Beaufighter X: 1 destroyed
Allied ground losses:
19 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 14
Aircraft Attacking:
5 x Ju-88A-4 bombing at 23000 feet
10 x Ju-88A-4 bombing at 23000 feet
4 x Ju-88A-4 bombing at 23000 feet
3 x Ju-88A-4 bombing at 23000 feet
2 x Ju-88A-4 bombing at 23000 feet
3 x Ju-88A-4 bombing at 23000 feet
2 x Ju-88A-4 bombing at 23000 feet
3 x Ju-88A-4 bombing at 23000 feet
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Day Air attack on Malta , at 35,120
Japanese aircraft
CR-42 x 12
SM 84 x 7
SM 79 x 30
Allied aircraft
no flights
Japanese aircraft losses
SM 84: 3 damaged
SM 79 : 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 1 destroyed
Hurricane IIc: 1 destroyed
Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 4
Aircraft Attacking:
11 x SM 79 bombing at 22000 feet
5 x SM 79 bombing at 22000 feet
5 x SM 79 bombing at 22000 feet
4 x SM 84 bombing at 22000 feet
3 x SM 79 bombing at 22000 feet
3 x SM 79 bombing at 22000 feet
3 x SM 84 bombing at 22000 feet
2 x SM 79 bombing at 22000 feet
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Day Air attack on Malta , at 35,120
Japanese aircraft
MC-200 x 20
MC-202 x 22
Bf-110D-3 x 19
Z-1007 Bis x 10
Japanese aircraft losses
Z-1007 Bis: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
Airbase hits 1
Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Z-1007 Bis bombing at 25000 feet
3 x Z-1007 Bis bombing at 25000 feet
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ACK! I DON'T LUV U!
Sub attack at 49,125
Japanese Ships
SS U-371
Allied Ships
BB Valiant ARRRGGG......Had her in my sights!!!!!!!!
DD Eclipse
DD Raider
DD Tartar
DD Zulu
DD Bedouin
DD Maori
BB Warspite
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Gonna have to rest my boys.....the fighters can't get at my bombers but the flak combined with the lowered AV is putting half my bombers out of commission.....and I see we have guests coming! Tea and cookies!!! i LUV tea and cookies with my children...yummy.....

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We'll get you next time!


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Malta's still at 0 airfield damage but up to 34% service damage. I pulled out two squadrons that were down to 1 & 2 operational airframes each, but perversely I'm continuing to fight with the others.
The forces of purple annoyance have begun their march north from Agedabia.

The forces of purple annoyance have begun their march north from Agedabia.

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Straight to Alexandria baby......nothin but Englanders to stop us......BA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAH HA HAH AH AHAH AHAH A
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WHO....i say WHO is your daddy?......ME!.....Barney! cha cha.....I LUV U, U LUV ME.....I'm on a roadtrip from Tripoli....
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/04/42
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Day Air attack on Agedabia , at 44,131
Japanese aircraft
MC-200 x 10
Allied aircraft
Baltimore II x 1
Tomahawk IIb x 11
Japanese aircraft losses
MC-200: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
Tomahawk IIb: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
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Day Air attack on Agedabia , at 44,131
Japanese aircraft
MC-200 x 9
Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 31
Japanese aircraft losses
MC-200: 2 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 1 destroyed, 11 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
90 casualties reported
Guns lost 5
Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 13
Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Wellington III bombing at 19000 feet
4 x Wellington III bombing at 19000 feet
6 x Wellington III bombing at 19000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 19000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 19000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 19000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 19000 feet
2 x Wellington III bombing at 19000 feet
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Day Air attack on Agedabia , at 44,131
Japanese aircraft
MC-200 x 9
MC-202 x 6
Allied aircraft
Liberator II x 11
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
Liberator II: 5 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
25 casualties reported
Runway hits 2
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Liberator II bombing at 18000 feet
3 x Liberator II bombing at 18000 feet
3 x Liberator II bombing at 18000 feet
2 x Liberator II bombing at 18000 feet
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Day Air attack on 132th Ariete Tank Division, at 45,130
Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 11
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
27 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Wellington III bombing at 19000 feet
5 x Wellington III bombing at 19000 feet
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Day Air attack on 15th Panzer , at 45,130
Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 7
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
35 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Vehicles lost 1
Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Wellington III bombing at 19000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 19000 feet
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Day Air attack on 9th Indian Brigade, at 45,130
Japanese aircraft
MC-200 x 12
Ju-87 B (Ger) x 15
No Japanese losses
Allied ground losses:
22 casualties reported
Aircraft Attacking:
15 x Ju-87 B (Ger) bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 9th Indian Brigade, at 45,130
Japanese aircraft
Bf-109F-4 Trop x 35
Ju-87 D (Ger) x 21
No Japanese losses
Allied ground losses:
66 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Aircraft Attacking:
21 x Ju-87 D (Ger) bombing at 2000 feet
19 x Bf-109F-4 Trop bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 9th Indian Brigade, at 45,130
Japanese aircraft
SM 79 x 18
MC-200 x 14
Ju-88A-4 x 11
No Japanese losses
Allied ground losses:
14 casualties reported
Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Ju-88A-4 bombing at 8000 feet
3 x SM 79 bombing at 8000 feet
3 x SM 79 bombing at 8000 feet
3 x SM 79 bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ju-88A-4 bombing at 8000 feet
3 x SM 79 bombing at 8000 feet
3 x SM 79 bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ju-88A-4 bombing at 8000 feet
3 x SM 79 bombing at 8000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 38,122
Allied aircraft
Beaufort I x 3
Allied aircraft losses
Beaufort I: 2 damaged
Japanese Ships
CL Abruzzi
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Beaufort I launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Malta is very much becoming a thorn in Barney's foot....time for more saturation attacks
Day Air attack on TF at 38,122
Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc x 2
Wellington III x 3
Beaufort I x 5
Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 1 damaged
Beaufort I: 5 damaged
Japanese Ships
CA Trieste, Bomb hits 1 hitting and destroying another weapons mount...more repairs....SYS up to 7%
BB Vittorio Veneto
BB Conte di Cavour
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Wellington III bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Beaufort I launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x Beaufort I launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on Malta , at 35,120
Japanese aircraft
CR-42 x 12
SM 84 x 10
SM 79 x 24
Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc x 5
Kittyhawk I x 3
Japanese aircraft losses
CR-42: 1 destroyed
SM 84: 6 damaged
SM 79 : 15 damaged
Port hits 1
Aircraft Attacking:
4 x SM 79 bombing at 22000 feet
8 x SM 79 bombing at 22000 feet
3 x SM 79 bombing at 22000 feet
5 x SM 84 bombing at 22000 feet
5 x SM 84 bombing at 22000 feet
3 x SM 79 bombing at 22000 feet
2 x SM 79 bombing at 22000 feet
4 x SM 79 bombing at 22000 feet
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Day Air attack on Malta , at 35,120
Japanese aircraft
MC-200 x 18
Bf-109F-4 x 20
MC-202 x 42
Re-2001 x 12
Bf-110D-3 x 19
Bf-109F-4 Trop x 24
Z-1007 Bis x 8
Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc x 1
Kittyhawk I x 3
Japanese aircraft losses
Z-1007 Bis: 2 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIc: 1 damaged
Kittyhawk I: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Runway hits 1
Aircraft Attacking:
5 x Z-1007 Bis bombing at 25000 feet
3 x Z-1007 Bis bombing at 25000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 38,122
Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc x 2
Beaufort I x 3
Allied aircraft losses
Beaufort I: 3 damaged
Japanese Ships
BB Caio Duilio
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Beaufort I launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 49,126
Japanese aircraft
Ju-88A-4 x 6
Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk I x 3
Japanese aircraft losses
Ju-88A-4: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
Allied Ships
BB Queen Elizabeth
BB Malaya
Aircraft Attacking:
1 x Ju-88A-4 bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ju-88A-4 bombing at 8000 feet
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Sub attack at 38,122
Japanese Ships
BB Conte di Cavour
DD Lanciere
DD Fuciliere
DD Bersagliere
DD Aviere
DD Ascari
DD Alpino
BB Andrea Doria
Allied Ships
SS Talisman
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ASW attack at 38,122
Japanese Ships
DE Calliope
DE Perseo
DE Climene
DE Castore
DD Alfredo Oriani
DD Vincenzo Gioberti
DD Turbine
DD Euro
Allied Ships
SS Talisman
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PANZERS...EAST!
Ground combat at 45,130
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 21662 troops, 247 guns, 787 vehicles, Assault Value = 720
Defending force 3780 troops, 27 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 104
Japanese max assault: 728 - adjusted assault: 435
Allied max defense: 54 - adjusted defense: 14
Japanese assault odds: 31 to 1
Japanese ground losses:
24 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Vehicles lost 1
Allied ground losses:
369 casualties reported
Guns lost 11
Defeated Allied Units Retreating!
Today's catch.....
2 fighters, in trade for two Italian makes.....not much else, AA got a Wimpy in NA.
RE: Med Wars! Part DU - Benito Barney vs Chuck
With one day of relatively light attacks, Malta's airfield damage remains at 0 and the service damage has been repaired to 3. Supply levels are at 25K+, down about 1000 since the 2nd of January.
DD Hero, damaged yesterday, will make Alexandria safely tomorrow.
The 9th Indian Brigade didn't fare well, however. I knew it would only be a speedbump, but 31 to 1 odds were far worse than I expected. I'll have to make some more efforts to disrupt the Axis supply. I'm sure I could be winning easily if I had more bombers... And aviation support, infantry, armor and fighters... [:'(]
Here's a pic of my missed opportunity of the day. It should say "torpedos missed" in there.

DD Hero, damaged yesterday, will make Alexandria safely tomorrow.
The 9th Indian Brigade didn't fare well, however. I knew it would only be a speedbump, but 31 to 1 odds were far worse than I expected. I'll have to make some more efforts to disrupt the Axis supply. I'm sure I could be winning easily if I had more bombers... And aviation support, infantry, armor and fighters... [:'(]
Here's a pic of my missed opportunity of the day. It should say "torpedos missed" in there.

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Sometimes The Aliens(tm) just pick up the torpedoes and whisk them away...[8|]
We are all dreams of the Giant Space Butterfly.
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Somehow I suspect a purple alien dinosaur. [;)]
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RE: Med Wars! Part DU - Benito Barney vs Chuck
The SS Talisman have no graphic art?....that's strange.

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ORIGINAL: ctangus
Somehow I suspect a purple alien dinosaur. [;)]

Neener! Neener! You missed me.......again!
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Barney however hasn't missed the two squadrons you have skulking at the edges of my Libyian ZONE OF DEATH........
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Death to The Purple Fiend!
We are all dreams of the Giant Space Butterfly.
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Been brushing up on my Med-war history. I think i'll be changing my mind about playing with advanced weather off. Seems that weather (bad weather that is) played a bigger part than one might think and often helped foil recon attempts out to sea.
Then there's the issue of the game engine's Pacific geared air-search engine....it's way too efficient for the Med. (pretty much everything gets spotted, and if it's spotted....it usually gets attacked by airpower.) In RL, the Italian airforce in particular had major problems coordinating it's actions with the Navy, partially due to doctrine and training but also because of the major inter-service rivalry between them. (There was also a wee little problem with ship identification which led to more than one friendly fire incident) People used to the Pacific (myself included admitedly) might be suprised at how closely warships and merchants operated to enemy territory. (example: warships assigned to Malta duty......the British fleet operating within 100 miles of Sicily etc) Airpower was a growing but usually sporadic factor in these sea maneuvers which increased the importance of carrier air power. In the game of course.....as can be seen in this and Speedy/Pauk's AAR, land based airpower has an ability to spot and target seaborne TF's with a regularity that would have made Benito drool. Hell, with just one squadron of Beuforts.....Chuck has been giving me palpitations as they attack my naval escort TF at least once per turn for the last 3-4 turns.....one torpedo could really ruin Barney's day. (So far only a couple bomb hits though these hits have destroyed weapons and are increasing wear SYS) On the same token, Chuck's Eastern Med squadron has also undergone several attacks and now his Force H (Gibralter) carrier force has also been spotted and attacked.
Pretty much the only way to reduce it is to play with advanced weather on so that some of the airbases involved get "socked" in.
Then there's the issue of the game engine's Pacific geared air-search engine....it's way too efficient for the Med. (pretty much everything gets spotted, and if it's spotted....it usually gets attacked by airpower.) In RL, the Italian airforce in particular had major problems coordinating it's actions with the Navy, partially due to doctrine and training but also because of the major inter-service rivalry between them. (There was also a wee little problem with ship identification which led to more than one friendly fire incident) People used to the Pacific (myself included admitedly) might be suprised at how closely warships and merchants operated to enemy territory. (example: warships assigned to Malta duty......the British fleet operating within 100 miles of Sicily etc) Airpower was a growing but usually sporadic factor in these sea maneuvers which increased the importance of carrier air power. In the game of course.....as can be seen in this and Speedy/Pauk's AAR, land based airpower has an ability to spot and target seaborne TF's with a regularity that would have made Benito drool. Hell, with just one squadron of Beuforts.....Chuck has been giving me palpitations as they attack my naval escort TF at least once per turn for the last 3-4 turns.....one torpedo could really ruin Barney's day. (So far only a couple bomb hits though these hits have destroyed weapons and are increasing wear SYS) On the same token, Chuck's Eastern Med squadron has also undergone several attacks and now his Force H (Gibralter) carrier force has also been spotted and attacked.
Pretty much the only way to reduce it is to play with advanced weather on so that some of the airbases involved get "socked" in.
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RE: Med Wars! Part DU - Benito Barney vs Chuck
Found a copy of "Barney's Big Picture Book Of The Ooey-Gooey War In The Middle-Widdly Mediterranean", did you?[:D]
We are all dreams of the Giant Space Butterfly.
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ORIGINAL: Terminus
Death to The Purple Fiend!

Sticks and stones Termy.....i LUV U! I know U LUV me!



