Is this game playable without going insane?

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Seriously though, I've had my eye on this dame for a while. Is she playable without too much micro-management and in a reasonable amount of time? Where can I read a review to get a feel for it?



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No, and in that babes' future....I see a major trainwreck of her current involvements....(high octane=high maintenance).................................


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All you need to do is visit this developing thread, you don't need no silly photos.......

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Roger and everyone else:

Thanks for the responses. Good stuff. For those of you who play boardgames, is there any comparison to any one game?

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There is a paper tutorial with the game (u-print) that guides you through several turns showing you the mechanics as well as some of the pitfalls. It has not been updated but it should still be valid. Fist time you play, play as the allies and play a short scenario. Or you could jump right into the grand scenario and truly get a feel for how the allies felt at the beginning of the war. [X(] By the way I was on the Alpha/Beta team so I’ve been playing for about 4 years now and I still look forward to getting my PBEM turns. [:D]
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Roger and everyone else:

Thanks for the responses. Good stuff. For those of you who play boardgames, is there any comparison to any one game?

Rob

Well, to me, the biggest difference between WITP and a boardgame is that there is no way my cat will knock the pieces onto the floor.

Seriously though, if you are use to playing the mega boardgames of the Avalon Hill days, there really isn't any more micromanagement in WITP then you would have with a mega boardgame....plus you can do the turn much faster.
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Well, Decision Games has a board game called WitP... That's pretty insane...
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Roger and everyone else:

Thanks for the responses. Good stuff. For those of you who play boardgames, is there any comparison to any one game?

Rob

This game is much easier to play than either Victory Games Pacific War or SPIs War in the Pacific. Not being funny, the space those two games required made leaving them up very prohibative for me.

It is harder to play than SPIs USN (much smaller game than previuos two). Also USN only went to end of 1943.
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This game is much easier to play than either Victory Games Pacific War or SPIs War in the Pacific. Not being funny, the space those two games required made leaving them up very prohibative for me.

It is harder to play than SPIs USN (much smaller game than previuos two). Also USN only went to end of 1943.


Thanks. That was the perspective I was looking for. I am used to playing games like ASL and The Gamers' Operational Combat Series of games and so I am comfortable with and don't mind that level of complexity as long as the game is fun. However, I don't like games such as TOAW as much as it feels like game mechanics are hidden in a "black box" and it makes planning operations and maximizing odds of success much harder. Said in other words, does WitP allow the gamer to follow a "formulaic" approach to planning? Can combat odds for example, be determined or is it a more abstracted approach?

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Oh no, you get the odds shown to you in land combat.
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I'm not crazy......
You're crazy!!
My pooka Harvey agrees with me.............

Yeah, the tiny voices in my head tell me that I'm perfectly normal!

You only have tiny voices...? Mine are HUGE![:D]
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You do get the odds shown to you as T said. You do not get the combat tables shown to you, but you get a feel very quickly what things are going to be like and what you will have to bring to bare on a situation.

The fog of war is much more complete than a board game and this is driven home by the enemy just popping up 180 mile from one of your bases due to your lack of recon etc. Look at my AAR against Terminus using his Mare Bellum mod for a few examples. I had let the AAR slip for about 3 weeks but I have resumed updates.

The other biggie, in my opinion, is the tracking of supply by computer (you move it, the computer tracks it). There are just so many small things that had to be done by hand for a board game that the computer handles much better.
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....and the Sandman is a Japanese agent with the mission of trying to lure you into a deep sleep. I saw the Easter Bunny at a chocolate factory yesterday and the Tooth Fairy used to visit me when I was much younger. Does the Tooth Fairy visit you when you're older and lose a tooth?

No, the Denture Fairy takes over then. [:D]
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I've only ever played Japanese, and I have found that one gets into rhythmn and just kinda know what needs to be done each turn. After the initial production tweaks, I don't mess with it much. Planning is important, as is knowing the capabilities of your units and the quirks of ground combat. Capture your defensive perimeter as quickly as possible, then consolidate and build defenses.
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No, the Denture Fairy takes over then. [:D]



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I have seen purple Dino's in Neverwinters night. I also here their deep, deep in the jungle of Burma.[8D][X(][:D] BUY IT!!!!!
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Wow! Well at least I know there is a large community with a great sense of humor here! Maybe it's time to join the Cuckoo's Nest...

Ummm... They werent kidding, and no one here has a sense of humor. Have one of their leaders poof on them and see how much they laugh about it.
Can the game be learned in a reasonable amont of time? Is the game manual any good? (I sure hope it is not anything like the TOAW manual, which doesn't teach you anything about game mechanics...) Can anyone point me to a good review where I can get a feel for the game?

I don't mind complexity but I'd rather not develop Carpal Tunnel by clicking hundreds of counters without a strategic purposes to do so. e.g. - do I need to do things like fueling every single airplane in the Japanese Imperial Forces??

As for the learning curve, thats kinda dependant on individuals. If you have experience with strategic turn based games, you will get it. Since you are considering getting it to begin with, most likely you will like it. It has been my best time per dollar spent game, no question about it.
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No, the Denture Fairy takes over then. [:D]



And instead of leaving you some coin under your pillow, he rapes your checking account....

ROFL! Indeed......best incentive to brush regularly!
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....and the Sandman is a Japanese agent with the mission of trying to lure you into a deep sleep. I saw the Easter Bunny at a chocolate factory yesterday and the Tooth Fairy used to visit me when I was much younger. Does the Tooth Fairy visit you when you're older and lose a tooth?

No, the Denture Fairy takes over then. [:D]

What exactly does the Tooth Fairy do with the teeth after she collects them? Does she resell them? If she is just some freak with a thing for teeth, where does she get the money to leave under the pillow? (BTW, going rate is $5 per tooth)

These are the questions that keep me up at night. [>:]
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