Gamelog issue

[Scott_WAR]

After simming through a few weeks in a league, I was looking through the game logs to see if the playbooks I was using were doing what I wanted. I happened to notice that a lot of the plays being called by teams in the play by play listing are plays that are NOT in those respective teams playbooks. For example one team ran a play called "circle" a few times, but that team does not have that particular play in its playbook. Other teams in the league have that play, but not this particular one. As I looked through more logs I noticed this is happening a lot, even when my profiles have that situation covered with several plays in its group.

Any ideas?

[Scott_WAR]

Looking a little more I noticed that penalties are being called but not enforced. A team has a penalty on a first and 10 play at the 25, the next play is 1rst and 10 at the 25. This also happens a lot in the game logs.

[Scott_WAR]

After further testing. The problem with plays being used that arent in a teams playbook...... it only happens if simming a weeks worth of gameing. Simming a single game will show results using appropriate plays in the game logs. The penalty issue still shows up though. This is without checking the animated ball box.
 
 I simmed two games using the animated ball, and the penalties still had a problem in the game logs. The penalty would be shown on the yards to go, but not on the ball placement...... for example.. on 1rst and 10, the ball was at the 25 and there was a penalty. The next play was 1rst and 5, but still at the 25.

[SmilinJack]

Yes, I noticed these things awhile back as well; however, I assumed these issues were already known.

I actually, at one point, believed the quick sim was using any proper play from the entire Plays directory in the sim. But later determined as did you that it had more to do with simming multiple games at one time. Also, if one sims a weeks games the last gamelog will show Time Of Poss. as a total for the week, at least I've seen this. The last two teams will show 144:12 to 133:12 minutes, stuff like that.

I've accepted these as minor difficulties. Penalties? Well few games ever get that right early so I'm very patient with these issues because they are complicated. I wish I could just turn penalties off. Penalties are not really indicative of any valid representation of the sport but are more or less random.

The Hidden Game of Football puts penalties in proper perspective.

I see why people want penalties for realism but I don't see a need for the overall simulation of the sport. Here come the Raider jokes.

Jay

I've opened a can of it now...huh.

[Marauders]

Thank you for posting these issues.
 
As far as you know, these only affect the sim engine run games?

[David Winter]

Also, if one sims a weeks games the last gamelog will show Time Of Poss. as a total for the week, at least I've seen this. The last two teams will show 144:12 to 133:12 minutes, stuff like that.

 
ack... I didn't know about that one.

[SmilinJack]

Hi David,

Yes I only wish I had made a note of the exact circumstances when I noticed it especially the last time I'd seen it. It may happen all the time; however, it's not a big deal to me so I don't check it everytime. I suppose it could be very easy to recreate or check, but I've run3 min qtrs, 20 min qtrs, big leagues, little leagues...so honestly I'm not certain if this is a rarity.

Jay

[Scott_WAR]

I have only saw it in simmed games. I have played a few games and have never saw it,..... but I wasnt looking either. I would have noticed penalties not being enforced, although I dont think I have ever saw a penalty in a played game,........ aside from delay of game on my part.