Guess one must trust the Japanese Player!

spence · Post by **spence** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 1:01 pm

DD Hagikaze - which in both runs 2 and 3 last night was heavily damaged in the naval battle is just fine after run 4 this morning cause no naval battle occurred in run 4. Screen shot of the Hong Kong/Kuching situation for run 4 coming up.

spence · Post by **spence** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 1:04 pm

Here it is

spence · Post by **spence** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 1:13 pm

Here's the 4 combat reports in sequence: all for 12/17/41

RUN#1

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/17/41

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TF 82 encounters mine field at Kuching (27,56)

TF 82 troops unloading over beach at Kuching, 27,56

Japanese Ships
MSW Wa 3
DD Nowaki
DD Inazuma
AK Mexico Maru, Mine hits 1, on fire

Coastal Guns at Kuching, 27,56, firing at TF 82
25 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
AP Midori Maru

Japanese ground losses:
276 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Night Time Surface Combat, near Kuching at 27,56

Japanese Ships
BB Kongo
BB Haruna
CA Takao
CA Atago
CA Mikuma
CL Jintsu
DD Hagikaze
DD Asashio
DD Oshio
DD Michishio
DD Arashio
DD Akatsuki
DD Hibiki

Allied Ships
DD Banckert
DD Van Nes
DD Witte de With
DD Evertsen
DD Kortenaer
DD Piet Hein

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Night Time Surface Combat, near Kuching at 27,56

Japanese Ships
BB Kongo, Shell hits 3
BB Haruna
CA Takao, Shell hits 1
CA Atago, Shell hits 9, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
CA Mikuma, Shell hits 1
CL Jintsu
DD Hagikaze, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
DD Asashio
DD Oshio, Shell hits 1
DD Michishio
DD Arashio, Shell hits 1
DD Akatsuki
DD Hibiki

Allied Ships
DD Banckert, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Van Nes, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Witte de With
DD Evertsen, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Kortenaer
DD Piet Hein, Shell hits 1

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TF 82 encounters mine field at Kuching (27,56)

TF 82 troops unloading over beach at Kuching, 27,56

Japanese Ships
MSW Wa 3

Coastal Guns at Kuching, 27,56, firing at TF 82
7 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
DD Maikaze
AP Midori Maru

Japanese ground losses:
40 casualties reported

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Coastal Guns at Kuching, 27,56, firing at TF 99
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TF 99 encounters mine field at Kuching (27,56)

TF 99 troops unloading over beach at Kuching, 27,56

16 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
DD Sagiri, Shell hits 1
DD Hiyodori

Japanese ground losses:
342 casualties reported

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ASW attack at 46,52

Japanese Ships
PG Nanpo Maru
PG Busho Maru
PG Keiko Maru

Allied Ships
SS Pike

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sub attack at 20,57

Japanese Ships
SS I-157

Allied Ships
AE Poyang, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on Canton , at 43,41

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 3

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 8

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on Singapore , at 22,51

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 25
Ki-46-II Dinah x 1

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-46-II Dinah: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 9 destroyed

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on 25th Chinese Corps, at 51,38

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 6

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on 3rd ISF Base Force, at 23,47

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 18
Ki-48-I Lily x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
27 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-48-I Lily bombing at 7000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on 8th Indian Brigade, at 23,47

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 3
Ki-48-I Lily x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-I Lily: 1 damaged

Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-48-I Lily bombing at 7000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on 51st Reserve Division, at 45,54

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 15

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
40 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x G3M Nell bombing at 7000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF at 47,52

Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 3

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Teizui Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-17D Fortress bombing at 7000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF, near Naga at 44,53

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 5

Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-17D Fortress: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
PG Taiko Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-17D Fortress bombing at 7000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF, near Kuching at 27,56

Allied aircraft
Brewster 339D x 3
Martin 139 x 3

Allied aircraft losses
Martin 139: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
CA Kumano

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 8000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF, near Kuching at 27,56

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 3

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
CA Chokai

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 8000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF at 41,66

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 28
B5N2 Kate x 12

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Governor Wright, Bomb hits 1, on fire
TK Manatawny

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B5N2 Kate bombing at 5000 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate bombing at 5000 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate bombing at 5000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF at 27,54

Allied aircraft
Brewster 339D x 3
Martin 139 x 3

Allied aircraft losses
Martin 139: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Hagikaze, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 8000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF at 45,53

Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 2
B-17E Fortress x 3

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
DD Matsukaze
CA Maya

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B-17D Fortress bombing at 8000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF, near Kota Bharu at 24,45

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 15
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 5

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 16
Blenheim IV x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 3 destroyed, 3 damaged
Blenheim IV: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
CL Kashii

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 8000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF at 41,66

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 24
B5N2 Kate x 11

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Governor Wright, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B5N2 Kate bombing at 5000 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate bombing at 5000 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate bombing at 5000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sub attack at 20,57

Japanese Ships
SS I-157

Allied Ships
AS Wuchang

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ground combat at Kavieng

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 2131 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 60

Defending force 440 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1

Japanese max assault: 61 - adjusted assault: 29

Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 3

Japanese assault odds: 9 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Kavieng base !!!

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ground combat at Kuching

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 9202 troops, 19 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 181

Defending force 1582 troops, 6 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 29

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 1

Japanese max assault: 133 - adjusted assault: 114

Allied max defense: 23 - adjusted defense: 25

Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Kuching base !!!

Japanese ground losses:
27 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
1455 casualties reported

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ground combat at Nanchang

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 41185 troops, 179 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 897

Defending force 9741 troops, 54 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 304

Japanese max assault: 34 - adjusted assault: 13

Allied max defense: 318 - adjusted defense: 65

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
72 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
73 casualties reported

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ground combat at Hong Kong

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 34993 troops, 173 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 785

Defending force 14615 troops, 56 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 285

Japanese max assault: 635 - adjusted assault: 844

Allied max defense: 192 - adjusted defense: 118

Japanese assault odds: 7 to 1 (fort level 4)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Hong Kong base !!!

Japanese ground losses:
703 casualties reported
Guns lost 3
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
11105 casualties reported
Guns lost 34

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ground combat at Georgetown

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 23174 troops, 122 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 504

Defending force 2540 troops, 21 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 50

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 2

Japanese max assault: 535 - adjusted assault: 203

Allied max defense: 49 - adjusted defense: 35

Japanese assault odds: 5 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Georgetown base !!!

Japanese ground losses:
171 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Allied ground losses:
2873 casualties reported
Guns lost 8

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ground combat at 51,38

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 8071 troops, 35 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 250

Defending force 6101 troops, 36 guns, 3 vehicles, Assault Value = 135

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ground combat at Lucena

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 2020 troops, 14 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 93

Defending force 416 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 19

Allied max assault: 66 - adjusted assault: 17

Japanese max defense: 10 - adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 17 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
21 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ground combat at Legaspi

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 7831 troops, 13 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 160

Defending force 2839 troops, 3 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 100

Allied max assault: 244 - adjusted assault: 38

Japanese max defense: 90 - adjusted defense: 110

Allied assault odds: 0 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
83 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
208 casualties reported
-------------------------------------------------------------
RUN#2

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/17/41

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TF 82 encounters mine field at Kuching (27,56)

TF 82 troops unloading over beach at Kuching, 27,56

Japanese Ships
MSW Wa 3
DD Nowaki
DD Inazuma
AK Mexico Maru, Mine hits 1, on fire

Coastal Guns at Kuching, 27,56, firing at TF 82
25 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
AP Midori Maru

Japanese ground losses:
276 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Night Time Surface Combat, near Kuching at 27,56

Japanese Ships
BB Kongo
BB Haruna
CA Takao
CA Atago
CA Mikuma
CL Jintsu
DD Hagikaze
DD Asashio
DD Oshio
DD Michishio
DD Arashio
DD Akatsuki
DD Hibiki

Allied Ships
DD Banckert
DD Van Nes
DD Witte de With
DD Evertsen
DD Kortenaer
DD Piet Hein

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Night Time Surface Combat, near Kuching at 27,56

Japanese Ships
BB Kongo, Shell hits 3
BB Haruna
CA Takao, Shell hits 1
CA Atago, Shell hits 9, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
CA Mikuma, Shell hits 1
CL Jintsu
DD Hagikaze, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
DD Asashio
DD Oshio, Shell hits 1
DD Michishio
DD Arashio, Shell hits 1
DD Akatsuki
DD Hibiki

Allied Ships
DD Banckert, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Van Nes, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Witte de With
DD Evertsen, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Kortenaer
DD Piet Hein, Shell hits 1

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TF 82 encounters mine field at Kuching (27,56)

TF 82 troops unloading over beach at Kuching, 27,56

Japanese Ships
MSW Wa 3

Coastal Guns at Kuching, 27,56, firing at TF 82
7 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
DD Maikaze
AP Midori Maru

Japanese ground losses:
40 casualties reported

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Coastal Guns at Kuching, 27,56, firing at TF 99
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TF 99 encounters mine field at Kuching (27,56)

TF 99 troops unloading over beach at Kuching, 27,56

16 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
DD Sagiri, Shell hits 1
DD Hiyodori

Japanese ground losses:
342 casualties reported

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ASW attack at 46,52

Japanese Ships
PG Nanpo Maru
PG Busho Maru
PG Keiko Maru

Allied Ships
SS Pike

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sub attack at 20,57

Japanese Ships
SS I-157

Allied Ships
AE Poyang, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on Canton , at 43,41

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 3

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 8

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on Singapore , at 22,51

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 25
Ki-46-II Dinah x 1

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-46-II Dinah: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 9 destroyed

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on 25th Chinese Corps, at 51,38

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 6

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on 3rd ISF Base Force, at 23,47

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 18
Ki-48-I Lily x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
27 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-48-I Lily bombing at 7000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on 8th Indian Brigade, at 23,47

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 3
Ki-48-I Lily x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-I Lily: 1 damaged

Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-48-I Lily bombing at 7000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on 51st Reserve Division, at 45,54

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 15

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
40 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x G3M Nell bombing at 7000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF at 47,52

Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 3

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Teizui Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-17D Fortress bombing at 7000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF, near Naga at 44,53

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 5

Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-17D Fortress: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
PG Taiko Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-17D Fortress bombing at 7000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF, near Kuching at 27,56

Allied aircraft
Brewster 339D x 3
Martin 139 x 3

Allied aircraft losses
Martin 139: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
CA Kumano

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 8000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF, near Kuching at 27,56

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 3

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
CA Chokai

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 8000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF at 41,66

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 28
B5N2 Kate x 12

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Governor Wright, Bomb hits 1, on fire
TK Manatawny

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B5N2 Kate bombing at 5000 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate bombing at 5000 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate bombing at 5000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF at 27,54

Allied aircraft
Brewster 339D x 3
Martin 139 x 3

Allied aircraft losses
Martin 139: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Hagikaze, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 8000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF at 45,53

Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 2
B-17E Fortress x 3

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
DD Matsukaze
CA Maya

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B-17D Fortress bombing at 8000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF, near Kota Bharu at 24,45

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 15
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 5

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 16
Blenheim IV x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 3 destroyed, 3 damaged
Blenheim IV: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
CL Kashii

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 8000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF at 41,66

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 24
B5N2 Kate x 11

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Governor Wright, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B5N2 Kate bombing at 5000 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate bombing at 5000 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate bombing at 5000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sub attack at 20,57

Japanese Ships
SS I-157

Allied Ships
AS Wuchang

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ground combat at Kavieng

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 2131 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 60

Defending force 440 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1

Japanese max assault: 61 - adjusted assault: 29

Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 3

Japanese assault odds: 9 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Kavieng base !!!

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ground combat at Kuching

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 9202 troops, 19 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 181

Defending force 1582 troops, 6 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 29

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 1

Japanese max assault: 133 - adjusted assault: 114

Allied max defense: 23 - adjusted defense: 25

Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Kuching base !!!

Japanese ground losses:
27 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
1455 casualties reported

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ground combat at Nanchang

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 41185 troops, 179 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 897

Defending force 9741 troops, 54 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 304

Japanese max assault: 34 - adjusted assault: 13

Allied max defense: 318 - adjusted defense: 65

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
72 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
73 casualties reported

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ground combat at Hong Kong

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 34993 troops, 173 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 785

Defending force 14615 troops, 56 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 285

Japanese max assault: 635 - adjusted assault: 844

Allied max defense: 192 - adjusted defense: 118

Japanese assault odds: 7 to 1 (fort level 4)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Hong Kong base !!!

Japanese ground losses:
703 casualties reported
Guns lost 3
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
11105 casualties reported
Guns lost 34

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ground combat at Georgetown

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 23174 troops, 122 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 504

Defending force 2540 troops, 21 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 50

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 2

Japanese max assault: 535 - adjusted assault: 203

Allied max defense: 49 - adjusted defense: 35

Japanese assault odds: 5 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Georgetown base !!!

Japanese ground losses:
171 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Allied ground losses:
2873 casualties reported
Guns lost 8

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ground combat at 51,38

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 8071 troops, 35 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 250

Defending force 6101 troops, 36 guns, 3 vehicles, Assault Value = 135

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ground combat at Lucena

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 2020 troops, 14 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 93

Defending force 416 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 19

Allied max assault: 66 - adjusted assault: 17

Japanese max defense: 10 - adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 17 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
21 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ground combat at Legaspi

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 7831 troops, 13 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 160

Defending force 2839 troops, 3 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 100

Allied max assault: 244 - adjusted assault: 38

Japanese max defense: 90 - adjusted defense: 110

Allied assault odds: 0 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
83 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
208 casualties reported

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
RUN#3

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/17/41

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TF 82 encounters mine field at Kuching (27,56)

TF 82 troops unloading over beach at Kuching, 27,56

Japanese Ships
MSW Wa 3
DD Nowaki
DD Inazuma
AK Mexico Maru, Mine hits 1, on fire

Coastal Guns at Kuching, 27,56, firing at TF 82
25 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
AP Midori Maru

Japanese ground losses:
276 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Night Time Surface Combat, near Kuching at 27,56

Japanese Ships
BB Kongo
BB Haruna
CA Takao
CA Atago
CA Mikuma
CL Jintsu
DD Hagikaze
DD Asashio
DD Oshio
DD Michishio
DD Arashio
DD Akatsuki
DD Hibiki

Allied Ships
DD Banckert
DD Van Nes
DD Witte de With
DD Evertsen
DD Kortenaer
DD Piet Hein

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Night Time Surface Combat, near Kuching at 27,56

Japanese Ships
BB Kongo, Shell hits 3
BB Haruna
CA Takao, Shell hits 1
CA Atago, Shell hits 9, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
CA Mikuma, Shell hits 1
CL Jintsu
DD Hagikaze, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
DD Asashio
DD Oshio, Shell hits 1
DD Michishio
DD Arashio, Shell hits 1
DD Akatsuki
DD Hibiki

Allied Ships
DD Banckert, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Van Nes, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Witte de With
DD Evertsen, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Kortenaer
DD Piet Hein, Shell hits 1

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TF 82 encounters mine field at Kuching (27,56)

TF 82 troops unloading over beach at Kuching, 27,56

Japanese Ships
MSW Wa 3

Coastal Guns at Kuching, 27,56, firing at TF 82
7 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
DD Maikaze
AP Midori Maru

Japanese ground losses:
40 casualties reported

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Coastal Guns at Kuching, 27,56, firing at TF 99
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TF 99 encounters mine field at Kuching (27,56)

TF 99 troops unloading over beach at Kuching, 27,56

16 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
DD Sagiri, Shell hits 1
DD Hiyodori

Japanese ground losses:
342 casualties reported

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ASW attack at 46,52

Japanese Ships
PG Nanpo Maru
PG Busho Maru
PG Keiko Maru

Allied Ships
SS Pike

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sub attack at 20,57

Japanese Ships
SS I-157

Allied Ships
AE Poyang, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on Canton , at 43,41

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 3

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 8

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on Singapore , at 22,51

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 25
Ki-46-II Dinah x 1

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-46-II Dinah: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 9 destroyed

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on 25th Chinese Corps, at 51,38

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 6

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on 3rd ISF Base Force, at 23,47

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 18
Ki-48-I Lily x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
27 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-48-I Lily bombing at 7000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on 8th Indian Brigade, at 23,47

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 3
Ki-48-I Lily x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-I Lily: 1 damaged

Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-48-I Lily bombing at 7000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on 51st Reserve Division, at 45,54

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 15

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
40 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x G3M Nell bombing at 7000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF at 47,52

Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 3

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Teizui Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-17D Fortress bombing at 7000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF, near Naga at 44,53

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 5

Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-17D Fortress: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
PG Taiko Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-17D Fortress bombing at 7000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF, near Kuching at 27,56

Allied aircraft
Brewster 339D x 3
Martin 139 x 3

Allied aircraft losses
Martin 139: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
CA Kumano

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 8000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF, near Kuching at 27,56

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 3

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
CA Chokai

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 8000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF at 41,66

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 28
B5N2 Kate x 12

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Governor Wright, Bomb hits 1, on fire
TK Manatawny

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B5N2 Kate bombing at 5000 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate bombing at 5000 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate bombing at 5000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF at 27,54

Allied aircraft
Brewster 339D x 3
Martin 139 x 3

Allied aircraft losses
Martin 139: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Hagikaze, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 8000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF at 45,53

Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 2
B-17E Fortress x 3

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
DD Matsukaze
CA Maya

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B-17D Fortress bombing at 8000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF, near Kota Bharu at 24,45

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 15
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 5

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 16
Blenheim IV x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 3 destroyed, 3 damaged
Blenheim IV: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
CL Kashii

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 8000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF at 41,66

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 24
B5N2 Kate x 11

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Governor Wright, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B5N2 Kate bombing at 5000 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate bombing at 5000 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate bombing at 5000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sub attack at 20,57

Japanese Ships
SS I-157

Allied Ships
AS Wuchang, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ground combat at Kavieng

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 2131 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 60

Defending force 440 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1

Japanese max assault: 61 - adjusted assault: 29

Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 3

Japanese assault odds: 9 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Kavieng base !!!

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ground combat at Kuching

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 9202 troops, 19 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 181

Defending force 1582 troops, 6 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 29

Japanese max assault: 133 - adjusted assault: 104

Allied max defense: 23 - adjusted defense: 35

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 1

Japanese ground losses:
157 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
29 casualties reported

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ground combat at Nanchang

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 41185 troops, 179 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 897

Defending force 18257 troops, 103 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 565

Japanese max assault: 34 - adjusted assault: 15

Allied max defense: 596 - adjusted defense: 148

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
199 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Allied ground losses:
242 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ground combat at Hong Kong

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 34993 troops, 173 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 785

Defending force 14615 troops, 56 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 285

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 3

Japanese max assault: 635 - adjusted assault: 710

Allied max defense: 192 - adjusted defense: 463

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 3)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 3

Japanese ground losses:
707 casualties reported
Guns lost 3
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
175 casualties reported
Guns lost 7

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ground combat at Georgetown

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 23174 troops, 122 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 504

Defending force 2540 troops, 21 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 50

Japanese max assault: 535 - adjusted assault: 472

Allied max defense: 49 - adjusted defense: 53

Japanese assault odds: 8 to 1 (fort level 3)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Georgetown base !!!

Japanese ground losses:
36 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
3105 casualties reported
Guns lost 18

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ground combat at 51,38

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 8071 troops, 35 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 250

Defending force 6101 troops, 36 guns, 3 vehicles, Assault Value = 135

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ground combat at Kuching

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 776 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 25

Defending force 14236 troops, 44 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 171

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ground combat at Lucena

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 2020 troops, 14 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 93

Defending force 416 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 19

Allied max assault: 66 - adjusted assault: 28

Japanese max defense: 10 - adjusted defense: 8

Allied assault odds: 3 to 1

Allied ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ground combat at Legaspi

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 7831 troops, 13 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 160

Defending force 2839 troops, 3 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 100

Allied max assault: 244 - adjusted assault: 49

Japanese max defense: 90 - adjusted defense: 61

Allied assault odds: 0 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
83 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
412 casualties reported

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
RUN#4

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/17/41

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TF 82 encounters mine field at Kuching (27,56)

TF 82 troops unloading over beach at Kuching, 27,56

Japanese Ships
MSW Wa 3
DD Nowaki
DD Inazuma
AK Mexico Maru, Mine hits 1, on fire

Coastal Guns at Kuching, 27,56, firing at TF 82
25 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
AP Midori Maru

Japanese ground losses:
276 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TF 82 encounters mine field at Kuching (27,56)

TF 82 troops unloading over beach at Kuching, 27,56

Japanese Ships
MSW Wa 3
DD Arashi
DD Nowaki
DD Maikaze
AK Myoho Maru, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Coastal Guns at Kuching, 27,56, firing at TF 82
Japanese ground losses:
12 casualties reported

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TF 99 encounters mine field at Kuching (27,56)

TF 99 troops unloading over beach at Kuching, 27,56

Japanese Ships
DD Kasasagi
DD Hiyodori
AP Haguro Maru, Mine hits 1, on fire

Japanese ground losses:
40 casualties reported

Coastal Guns at Kuching, 27,56, firing at TF 99
19 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
CA Chokai
DD Kasasagi

Japanese ground losses:
477 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
25 casualties reported

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sub attack at 20,57

Japanese Ships
SS I-157

Allied Ships
AE Poyang, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on Canton , at 43,41

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 3

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 8

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on Singapore , at 22,51

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 25
Ki-46-II Dinah x 1

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 18

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 8 destroyed

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on 25th Chinese Corps, at 51,38

Japanese aircraft
Ki-51 Sonia x 8

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
40 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on 3rd ISF Base Force, at 23,47

Japanese aircraft
Ki-48-I Lily x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-I Lily: 1 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Ki-48-I Lily bombing at 7000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on 8th Indian Brigade, at 23,47

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 3
Ki-48-I Lily x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-I Lily: 1 damaged

Allied ground losses:
21 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Ki-48-I Lily bombing at 7000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on Penang Fortress, at 23,44

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 6
Ki-48-I Lily x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-I Lily: 4 damaged

Allied ground losses:
8 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x Ki-48-I Lily bombing at 7000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on Penang Fortress, at 23,44

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-II Sally x 18
Ki-15 Babs x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-II Sally: 3 damaged

Allied ground losses:
48 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 7000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on No. 107 RAF Base Force, at 28,37

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 15
Ki-30 Ann x 19

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
19 x Ki-30 Ann bombing at 2000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF, near Kuching at 27,56

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 3

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Haruna

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 8000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF, near Vigan at 44,49

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9

Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 2

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AK Tairyu Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B-17D Fortress bombing at 7000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF at 45,53

Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 6

Allied aircraft losses
B-17D Fortress: 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
CL Kuma
CA Maya

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-17D Fortress bombing at 8000 feet
3 x B-17D Fortress bombing at 7000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF, near Kuching at 27,56

Allied aircraft
Brewster 339D x 3
Martin 139 x 2

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
DD Nowaki

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Martin 139 bombing at 8000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF, near Kuching at 27,56

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 3

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AK Unyo Maru #2

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 8000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF, near Kuching at 27,56

Allied aircraft
Brewster 339D x 3
Martin 139 x 2

Allied aircraft losses
Martin 139: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Kongo

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Martin 139 bombing at 8000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF, near Kuching at 27,56

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 3

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Kongo

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 8000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF, near Naga at 44,53

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 5

Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 2
B-17E Fortress x 3

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AK Toyama Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AP Kofuku Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B-17D Fortress bombing at 8000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF, near Aparri at 45,49

Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 3

Allied aircraft losses
B-17D Fortress: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
CS Mizuho

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-17D Fortress bombing at 7000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF, near Kota Bharu at 24,45

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 15
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 12

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 11
Blenheim IV x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27 Nate: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 4 destroyed, 3 damaged
Blenheim IV: 1 damaged

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF, near Rabaul at 62,90

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 10

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Malahuka
AK Balus, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AK Aussi, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF at 41,66

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 28
B5N2 Kate x 12

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Dos Hermanos, Bomb hits 1
AK Taurus, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AK Si Kiang, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B5N2 Kate bombing at 5000 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate bombing at 5000 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate bombing at 5000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sub attack at 20,57

Japanese Ships
SS I-157

Allied Ships
AE Poyang, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sub attack at 107,72

Japanese Ships
SS I-172

Allied Ships
AK Nordhval, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sub attack at 20,57

Japanese Ships
SS I-157

Allied Ships
AS Wuchang

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ground combat at Kavieng

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 2131 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 60

Defending force 440 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1

Japanese max assault: 61 - adjusted assault: 29

Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 3

Japanese assault odds: 9 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Kavieng base !!!

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ground combat at Kuching

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 9202 troops, 19 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 176

Defending force 1542 troops, 6 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 29

Japanese max assault: 133 - adjusted assault: 224

Allied max defense: 23 - adjusted defense: 19

Japanese assault odds: 11 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Kuching base !!!

Japanese ground losses:
151 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Allied ground losses:
1467 casualties reported

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ground combat at Nanchang

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 41185 troops, 179 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 897

Defending force 18257 troops, 103 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 565

Japanese max assault: 34 - adjusted assault: 14

Allied max defense: 596 - adjusted defense: 159

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
162 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Allied ground losses:
117 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ground combat at Hong Kong

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 34993 troops, 173 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 785

Defending force 14615 troops, 56 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 285

Japanese max assault: 635 - adjusted assault: 896

Allied max defense: 192 - adjusted defense: 346

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 4)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 3

Japanese ground losses:
534 casualties reported
Guns lost 7
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
238 casualties reported
Guns lost 9

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ground combat at Georgetown

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 23174 troops, 122 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 504

Defending force 2457 troops, 20 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 48

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 2

Japanese max assault: 535 - adjusted assault: 238

Allied max defense: 41 - adjusted defense: 23

Japanese assault odds: 10 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Georgetown base !!!

Japanese ground losses:
12 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
2964 casualties reported
Guns lost 15

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ground combat at 51,38

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 8031 troops, 35 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 250

Defending force 6101 troops, 36 guns, 3 vehicles, Assault Value = 135

Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ground combat at Lucena

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 2020 troops, 14 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 93

Defending force 396 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 19

Allied max assault: 66 - adjusted assault: 15

Japanese max defense: 10 - adjusted defense: 7

Allied assault odds: 2 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
36 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
22 casualties reported

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ground combat at Legaspi

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 7891 troops, 13 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 160

Defending force 2839 troops, 3 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 100

Allied max assault: 292 - adjusted assault: 102

Japanese max defense: 90 - adjusted defense: 62

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
76 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Allied ground losses:
214 casualties reported

treespider · Post by **treespider** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 3:36 pm

Are you questioning my integrity?

spence · Post by **spence** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 3:50 pm

Are you questioning my integrity?

ABSOLUTELY NOT.

TRY IT OUT THOUGH.

I know you're busy with your mod but if you want we can start a Scen 15...I'll just pick my password and return----and then you can bomb PH a few times (some of the outcomes are very similar so you might not recognize a difference right off). In my other PBEM I originally thought I could just rerun the replay for my Allied Opp after I mistakenly overwrote the WitP001 file with the one you sent me...and the results came out very different!

Apollo11 · Post by **Apollo11** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 7:57 pm

Hi all,

This is very strange and must be a bug...

When I tested this extensively in both UV and WitP the end result would always be the same regardless or turn reloading (or even full game reloading and loading turn or more even whole PC restart).

The combat report (i.e. genetarted text) would always be the same as well.

The only out of sync occurence (that still happen sometimes) is for the Allied player and thus we from the UV start introduced the sending of textual combat report with PBEM turn (i.e. Japanese player send both his PBEM turn and textual combat report since that is the "TRUTH").

Leo "Apollo11"

P.S. [Addition]

Accelerating animations also never changed the outcome for Japanese player in any of my extensive tests in both UV and WitP.

Yamato hugger · Post by **Yamato hugger** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 8:02 pm

Could part of it be that he isnt using stock map / scenario? or maybe somehow switching between the 2?

Yakface · Post by **Yakface** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 5:36 pm

ORIGINAL: Terminus

I think you need to be able to trust the other guy, whichever side he plays. We saw recently here what happens when it turns out you shouldn't have trusted someone...[:(]

What happened? - I must have missed the thread

erstad · Post by **erstad** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 8:39 pm

Spence, what version are you running?

As a Japanese player I ran across a similiar issue when re-running a turn for an overwritten set of reports. I found the factor that caused the variance, and reported it to Frag. I believe this issue was fixed. (And no, I'm not going to give more details, even though I think that specific issue was addressed, cause I'm not interested in sparking any ideas [:-]. )

Anyway, point is that if you are on an older rev, you might be seeing the same thing, and the more current patches may eliminate the problem.

spence · Post by **spence** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 8:55 pm

I am running ver 1.805 or 1.804 (whatever is the latest) with a special CHS install of 2.08 or whatever the latest is of that. At work right now so can't actually check versions but they are up to date. I am playing one Allied CHS PBEM and one Japanese CHS PBEM. I was able to duplicate the different turn outcome for the next turn as well but the differences were confined to a plane here and and a plane there and a few extra or less troops lost in land combat. So I didn't post the results. One thing I've noticed though is that it is always the same ships that hit mines or get popped by the the CD guns and that the number of guys who sprain their ankle landing on the beach is always the same.

Strangely the replay bug has been hibernating or something in my Allied game while all this has been going on with my Japanese game.

erstad · Post by **erstad** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 5:45 am

Obviously new enough it's not the same thing I saw.

Mike Dixon · Post by **Mike Dixon** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 11:38 am

I've cocked up the files a few times against Spence and Treespider, re-ran it as Jap and got the same results so most bizarre!

Mike

rtrapasso · Post by **rtrapasso** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 1:33 pm

ORIGINAL: erstad

Spence, what version are you running?

As a Japanese player I ran across a similiar issue when re-running a turn for an overwritten set of reports. I found the factor that caused the variance, and reported it to Frag. I believe this issue was fixed. (And no, I'm not going to give more details, even though I think that specific issue was addressed, cause I'm not interested in sparking any ideas [:-]. )

Anyway, point is that if you are on an older rev, you might be seeing the same thing, and the more current patches may eliminate the problem.

It was possible - at least in pre 1.804 - to induce changes in the re-run files by the person running the turn doing specific actions.

i have no idea whether or not you can still do it... and i am loathe to say how you could do it. i had reported the issue with extensive testing, but it wasn't addressed at that time... perhaps it was later.

DuckofTindalos · Post by **DuckofTindalos** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 1:46 pm

It's not how or if you can do it, it's WHY... This is cheating, pure and simple...

USSAmerica · Post by **USSAmerica** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 1:48 pm

ORIGINAL: Terminus

It's not how or if you can do it, it's WHY... This is cheating, pure and simple...

This topic came up because a player tried to exactly duplicate his earlier results by re-running the turn, due to losing the combat results and replay from the earlier run. I don't think there was any cheating involved, other than his discovery that cheating could happen based on his different results.

rtrapasso · Post by **rtrapasso** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 1:49 pm

ORIGINAL: Terminus

It's not how or if you can do it, it's WHY... This is cheating, pure and simple...

Yup - thus bringing us back to the title of the thread...*

(EDIT - i am referring to the attempt to DELIBERATELY change the results, not the discovery of this problem).

Procrustes · Post by **Procrustes** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 5:53 pm

Hi,

My personal experience is that you will get the exact same results if you replay a saved game, BUT if you change even one little thing (e.g. give a different set of orders to just one of your units) then you get a different roll.  It's really easy to do by accident - It's happened to me in my games against the AI - I like to save the logs, but sometimes I forget.  If I saved the game just  before I played the turn I can get them back, if I made even the slightest change and forgot to re-save the game then I can't replay my turn. 

Best,

spence · Post by **spence** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 9:18 pm

My personal experience is that you will get the exact same results if you replay a saved game, BUT if you change even one little thing (e.g. give a different set of orders to just one of your units) then you get a different roll.  It's really easy to do by accident - It's happened to me in my games against the AI - I like to save the logs, but sometimes I forget.  If I saved the game just  before I played the turn I can get them back, if I made even the slightest change and forgot to re-save the game then I can't replay my turn. 

 
My experience WAS similar.  In this situation, the only thing that occurred between the first and second iterations of the original turn received from my Allied opp was that I mistakenly (forgetfully or stupidly) overwrote the witp001.pws file with the one my IJN opp in another game sent me after I had made my move using the first iteration.  I sent the turn that I had made using that first iteration to my Allied op and was planning to send along the Replay immediately after I reloaded the witp00x.pws file again and it had finished running.  It WAS my expectation that the Replay would be the same one that had occurred before but it was not.  I then reloaded again and again and don't think I ever got one that was identical to the original one I'd based my move on.  Not only that but I couldn't duplicate the results in two successive iterations. 
 
In the end I explained my mistake to my opp, told him I could not duplicate the replay and described as best I could the significant things that had occurred during the first replay.  In actuality, none of the good stuff (like Kuching and Hong Kong fallling) that happened in the 2nd etc iterations of the witp00x.pws had happened in the first iteration.  Can't remember whether my opp mentioned whether he checked the Combat Summary or not but he made his move and we continued on.  Since then he's always gotten the first iteration of the witp001.pws file.  I experimented on the next turn and got differing results again though they weren't strikingly different.  The turn after that I got the same result for 2 consecutive runs.  Didn't experiment with the next couple of turns at all.  I have no idea what caused the original "bug" if that is what it is.  Apparently it belongs to Order Ephemeroptera though.  

Sonny II · Post by **Sonny II** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 9:42 pm

No that it would prevent rerunning of a turn but it sure would be nice if the combat replay was stored in the slot right below the game save slot. There have been several times when I have played a couple turns only to have the first opponent say he didn't get the email or lost it etc. All I can say is here is the turn without the replay.

Halsey · Post by **Halsey** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 11:16 pm

All you have to do is create a folder on your desktop with the PBEM game name.
Then copy all the files to it after you complete the turn.

Then you always have the previous turn saved.
Simple solution for a complete set of backup files.[;)]

Guess one must trust the Japanese Player!

RE: Guess one must trust the Japanese Player!

RE: Guess one must trust the Japanese Player!

RE: Guess one must trust the Japanese Player!

RE: Guess one must trust the Japanese Player!

RE: Guess one must trust the Japanese Player!

RE: Guess one must trust the Japanese Player!

RE: Guess one must trust the Japanese Player!

RE: Guess one must trust the Japanese Player!

RE: Guess one must trust the Japanese Player!

RE: Guess one must trust the Japanese Player!

RE: Guess one must trust the Japanese Player!

RE: Guess one must trust the Japanese Player!

RE: Guess one must trust the Japanese Player!

RE: Guess one must trust the Japanese Player!

RE: Guess one must trust the Japanese Player!

RE: Guess one must trust the Japanese Player!

RE: Guess one must trust the Japanese Player!

RE: Guess one must trust the Japanese Player!

RE: Guess one must trust the Japanese Player!

RE: Guess one must trust the Japanese Player!