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RE: Air raids on the Home Islands

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Yes, that's why I defended the Bonins so desperately. Can't allow them to fall!!



Yeah, Iwo, Bonin, Okinawa are very valuable. I intend to fortify them big time in my first Japanese game.

Anyway, Once you intercept those B29's couple of times you wohn't see them again until he can provide escorts for them.

(I had bad experiences with them againts Erstad. Allthough now that I have solid bases near Japan his industry is pretty much toasted for good)

I think Andy will start looking for an base near Home Islands soon. There are not that many possible targets to accomplish this.
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RE: Air raids on the Home Islands

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Yes, I'm aware of that...here is one of the last mails I wrote to Andy:

I'm expecting your next invasion over the next month or so. Trying to figure out where you will land and I don't think there are too many alternatives.
Either the PI/Formosa/Okinawas region in the west, or the Bonins and Home Islands area in the east.

Wondering whether you will dare to take it all out and go for the latter....Kinda not looking forward to the next show because it'll probably be very ugly one way or another :p)
The way this game escalates from 44-45 is scaring me. The more you give a dang about losses the more suicidal my tactics will become.

That is the faith Accompli, usually to our mutual despair.....


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 04/22/45

Air Combat

Day Air attack on 3rd Australian Brigade, at 28,39

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 18
Ki-102a Randy x 21
Ki-49 Helen x 10

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
35 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Day Air attack on 5th Australian Tank Regiment, at 35,39

Japanese aircraft
Ki-67 Peggy x 20

No Japanese losses
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Day Air attack on 98th USA Division, at 63,53

Japanese aircraft
B6N Jill x 2
B7A Grace x 3
Ki-48 Lily x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48 Lily: 1 damaged
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Day Air attack on 81st USA Division, at 63,53

Japanese aircraft
B6N Jill x 16
B7A Grace x 25
Ki-100 Tony x 2
Ki-48 Lily x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48 Lily: 1 damaged

Allied ground losses:
69 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
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Day Air attack on 72nd Ind.Mixed/A Brigade, at 29,39

Allied aircraft
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 8
P-47D Thunderbolt x 14
B-25J Mitchell x 21
A-26B Invader x 5

Allied aircraft losses
B-25J Mitchell: 4 damaged
A-26B Invader: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
70 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
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Day Air attack on 5th Ind./A Brigade, at 31,45

Allied aircraft
TBM Avenger x 44
Kittyhawk III x 12
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 31
P-47D Thunderbolt x 8
A-26B Invader x 42

Allied aircraft losses
A-26B Invader: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
193 casualties reported
Guns lost 4
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Day Air attack on 5th Ind./A Brigade, at 31,45

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 14
P-51D Mustang x 9
B-25J Mitchell x 30
A-26B Invader x 38
PB4Y Liberator x 7

Allied aircraft losses
PB4Y Liberator: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
136 casualties reported
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Day Air attack on TF, near Belitung Island at 23,58

Allied aircraft
TBM Avenger x 45


Allied aircraft losses
TBM Avenger: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
AK Nosiro Maru, Bomb hits 12, on fire, heavy damage
AK Uyo Maru
AK Nichizui Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
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Day Air attack on TF, near Belitung Island at 23,58

Allied aircraft
TBM Avenger x 4

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
MSW W.34
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Fortunately enemy carrier ac hit the cripplies that had limped into Kuching in sinking
condition. My loaded haulers had already sped out of the area!

Day Air attack on TF, near Kuching at 28,56

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 34
F6F Hellcat x 15
F4U-1D Corsair x 17
TBM Avenger x 36

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AK Toyooka Maru, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AK Tamagawa Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Thames Maru, on fire, heavy damage
AK Tokyo Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
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Day Air attack on TF, near Singkawang at 25,57

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 9
Ki-102a Randy x 4

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 32
F6F Hellcat x 9
F4U-1D Corsair x 7
TBM Avenger x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-102a Randy: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged

Japanese Ships - happy me, this ship was loaded
TK Shoyo Maru
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Day Air attack on TF, near Belitung Island at 23,58

Allied aircraft
TBM Avenger x 43

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AK Nosiro Maru, on fire, heavy damage
AK Nichizui Maru, Bomb hits 9, on fire, heavy damage
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Ground Combat

Tomorrow we will attempt to bombard enemy troops in Iwo!

Ground combat at Iwo Jima

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 86390 troops, 890 guns, 613 vehicles, Assault Value = 1976

Defending force 59181 troops, 547 guns, 164 vehicles, Assault Value = 1282

Allied ground losses:
112 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Another shock attack and our forts a quickly vanishing!

Ground combat at Bien Hoa

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 140558 troops, 1050 guns, 1270 vehicles, Assault Value = 2561

Defending force 38517 troops, 105 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 646

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 3

Allied max assault: 4284 - adjusted assault: 4236

Japanese max defense: 489 - adjusted defense: 1557

Allied assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 3)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 2

Japanese ground losses:
2096 casualties reported
Guns lost 24

Allied ground losses:
1375 casualties reported
Guns lost 37
Vehicles lost 12
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RE: Air raids on the Home Islands

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Bien Hoa falls and we have to fall back on Saigon. Can't really hope on holding the place with 1000 enemy ac
pounding us EACH day 24/7. Supplies is never an issue for the Allies, only good thing is that Japan is difficult to starve out as well.

I will start probing attacks on Iwo soon, expcecting heavy casualties to begin with and it will most likely take months to reduce the troops there. A partial goal is to force Andy to reinforce or evacuate them.

The enemy escort carriers from Singapore moved south into the Java Sea and hit some more cargo ships there.

One more week and we start producing the Reppu [8D]

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 04/23/45

Bombardments

Naval bombardment of Iwo Jima, at 63,53

Japanese Ships
CL Kiso
CL Yahagi
CA Nachi
CA Takao
BB Mutsu
BB Kirishima

Allied ground losses: - not a great effect...
107 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
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Air Combat

Day Air attack on Camranh Bay , at 34,46

Japanese aircraft
Ki-100 Tony x 21

Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 13
Spitfire XIV x 10
P-51D Mustang x 16
PB4Y Liberator x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-100 Tony: 10 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire XIV: 2 destroyed

Port hits 1
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 1
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Day Air attack on 33rd USA Division, at 31,45

Japanese aircraft
D4Y Judy x 24

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Day Air attack on 6th USMC Division, at 63,53

Japanese aircraft
B6N Jill x 16
B7A Grace x 25
Ki-100 Tony x 2
Ki-48 Lily x 23

Japanese aircraft losses
B6N Jill: 1 damaged

Allied ground losses:
90 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Vehicles lost 1
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Day Air attack on 27th Ind.Mixed/A Brigade, at 29,39

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 13

Allied aircraft
A-26B Invader x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84-Ia Frank: 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
A-26B Invader: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
23 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Day Air attack on 5th Ind./A Brigade, at 31,45

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 30
P-51D Mustang x 10
B-25J Mitchell x 22
A-26B Invader x 35
PB4Y Liberator x 8
B-24J Liberator x 32

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
234 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
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Day Air attack on 5th Ind./B Brigade, at 31,45

Allied aircraft
TBM Avenger x 43
Kittyhawk III x 12
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 29
A-26B Invader x 37

Allied aircraft losses
Beaufighter Mk 21: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
163 casualties reported
Guns lost 5
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Day Air attack on TF, near Batavia at 19,59

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 23
F6F Hellcat x 3
F4U-1D Corsair x 6
TBM Avenger x 32

Allied aircraft losses
TBM Avenger: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
AK San Francisco Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Norfolk Maru
AK Ryuun Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Yamabuki Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AK Tokusima Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Okitu Maru
AK Unyo Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
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Day Air attack on TF, near Batavia at 19,59

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 3
F4U-1D Corsair x 4
TBM Avenger x 7

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AK Ryuun Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Unyo Maru, on fire
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Ground Combat

Ground combat at Iwo Jima

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 86360 troops, 888 guns, 613 vehicles, Assault Value = 1975

Defending force 58410 troops, 531 guns, 154 vehicles, Assault Value = 1269

Allied ground losses:
37 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Bien Hoa falls; I had marched half the troops south to Saigon. Should have started one
day before.

Ground combat at Bien Hoa

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 139043 troops, 1015 guns, 1261 vehicles, Assault Value = 2447

Defending force 16342 troops, 17 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 260

Allied max assault: 4066 - adjusted assault: 4929

Japanese max defense: 215 - adjusted defense: 437

Allied assault odds: 11 to 1 (fort level 2)

Allied forces CAPTURE Bien Hoa base !!!

Japanese ground losses:
942 casualties reported
Guns lost 11

Allied ground losses:
543 casualties reported
Guns lost 10
Vehicles lost 5

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!
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RE: Air raids on the Home Islands

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More convoys are heading to Midway. An obvious build up going on...quiet before the storm.

One of the difficult questions is how we should attack an enemy amph fleet. This is what I've been
thinking about:

1.) Provide LRCAP over the enemy's landing zones and send in sweep missions to deplete enemy CAP.
2.) Send in small strikes with heavy escort and just a few strike ac and kamis.

After a week of this we should be able to send in huge strikes escorted by our 600 Oscar fighters.
This is the time to release the combined strength of our LBA: SBD, TBD, kamikazes, naval bombers and everything
else we can scrounge together. We have 3000 ready fighters in the IJA and IJNAAF now.

To accomplish such a defensive scheme depends completely on where the enemy lands.
It is much easier to defend the Home Islands and the Philippines/Formosa than any other targets since there
are so many mutually supporting air bases.

Any advice from you who don't read Andy's AAR: What should be done before the storm breaks,
anything I may have forgotten?

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 04/24/45

Air Combat

Andy is attacking the least protected areas still - in a week I should have covered all exposed
bases with 50 good CAP fighters. Need 250+ AV support for all major cities in Japan and that requires
quite some effort.

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Day Air attack on Akita , at 68,39

Japanese aircraft
Ki-102a Randy x 19

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 152

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-102a Randy: 3 destroyed, 13 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 2 destroyed, 11 damaged

Manpower hits 35
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GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR - I _HATE_ this!

Day Air attack on Sampit , at 26,62

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 24
B7A Grace x 9
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 24 destroyed
B7A Grace: 9 destroyed
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Day Air attack on 81st USA Division, at 63,53

Japanese aircraft
B6N Jill x 16
B7A Grace x 24
Ki-100 Tony x 2
Ki-48 Lily x 19

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48 Lily: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged

Allied ground losses:
14 casualties reported
Guns lost 4
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Enemy carriers moved south instead of back to Singer...and found a tanker that did the same
to avoid them [:'(]

Day Air attack on TF at 23,61

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 24
F6F Hellcat x 5
F4U-1D Corsair x 6
TBM Avenger x 12

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
TK Shoyo Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
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Day Air attack on TF at 26,64

Japanese aircraft
Ki-100 Tony x 6
Ki-67 Peggy x 3

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 36
F6F Hellcat x 8
F4U-1D Corsair x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-100 Tony: 6 destroyed
Ki-67 Peggy: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
CVE Saginaw Bay
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Ground Combat

Ground combat at Iwo Jima

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 86355 troops, 889 guns, 614 vehicles, Assault Value = 1976

Defending force 58208 troops, 522 guns, 153 vehicles, Assault Value = 1268

Allied ground losses:
71 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Vehicles lost 2
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RE: Air raids on the Home Islands

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Submarine arm has re-generated nicely with the new RO program. Still more on the slips, accelerated 6-7 of them including a Ha sub with radar.

I seem to remember and old AAR (Maybe the old Hirohito style) where the HA subs were bugged and even though they completed construction. They were never deployed. Does anyone else remember that?
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RE: Air raids on the Home Islands

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Can you give us a list again of where you think that group of convoys is heading? The ones near Midway.
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Fighters flying LRCAP over the enemy landing hex will not engage the enemy CAP. Sweeps will be more useful.... but I don't think it is possible to send a sweep over one of its own base, even if it is under attack (at least it didn't work for me when I try) and so your fighters will have to fly escort
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RE: Air raids on the Home Islands

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After a week of this we should be able to send in huge strikes escorted by our 600 Oscar fighters.
This is the time to release the combined strength of our LBA: SBD, TBD, kamikazes, naval bombers and everything
else we can scrounge together. We have 3000 ready fighters in the IJA and IJNAAF now.

As we have seen already several times it is possible to unload several divisions including supply in one or two days using several hundred AP, AK and LCxx in WitP. So I think one week is to long. I doubt that Andy will stay that long with his ships. And after unloading it is obviously to late to sink the troop ships. You should start to decimate the enemy CAP as soon as the landing force comes into airforce range and try to hit them befor landing.
Also you should not forget that now B-29 can reach a lot of the inner parts of the empire. If I would plan such an amphibious landing I would change the mission for the B-29 to airfield bombing of nearby bases before the landing to disrupt your airforce, damage and destroy as many fighters and bombers as possible.
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RE: Air raids on the Home Islands

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I haven't heard anything about bugged HA type subs before...Joe (W), you listening in?

It's difficult to say were enemy fleets at Midway are heading. 2 of our subs were immediately hit by B-24's when
they got too close. Another sub has spotted another TF following suit. There are only two options: Either the convoys will move West and reinforce Marcus and/or stage for assaults on Bonins/Marianas, or they will move north. Got a couple of seaplane tenders that will be used as early warning vessels.

Hm, it will be _impossible_ to prevent enemy from landing the troops he bring with him. That means that our defenses have to be strong enough to prevent the enemy from capturing our bases in the first week of combat.

Bonins are strong enough to resist attacks from a large invasion force. Iwo itself got 2000 AP by now and Bonin 1250. Another 1000 AP can be brought in as reinforcements. But if Andy lands 12-14 divisions and pound both islands to dust.....RIP!

In a way this would be logical. Securing the Bonins would provide him with bases from which he can sweep the Home Islands before sending in the heavies. He got a huge army whittering on the wine on Iwo, and it would be an enormous waste of resources not to 'liberate them'. With the Bonins secured the Marianas can be efficiently blocaded and invaded. The Home Islands themselves will lay open to severe punishment from the air.

Still having difficulties in seeing how the Home Islands themselves can be invaded, but this would certainly become a more viable option if the Bonins fall. Just have to wait and see.... In the meanwhile I will attempt to bring as many AP into all vulnerable spots. Bonins got 140k supplies and 3300 AP. Can't afford to send more that way, so I'm concentrating on the other potential landing grounds from Paramushiro Island to Hokkaido.
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It's relatively quiet, little to do for a change, waiting game!

I've noticed how large fighter formations (36-54 ac) slowly accumulate damaged ac and it's
really difficult to repair them. Have to stand the entire formation down. Medium sized ones (27 ac) does
not suffer the same problems.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 04/25/45

Air Combat

Day Air attack on 6th USMC Division, at 63,53

Japanese aircraft
B6N Jill x 18
B7A Grace x 26
Ki-100 Tony x 3
Ki-48 Lily x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
B6N Jill: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged

Allied ground losses:
50 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
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Day Air attack on 81st USA Division, at 63,53

Japanese aircraft
B7A Grace x 3
Ki-48 Lily x 17

Japanese aircraft losses
B7A Grace: 1 damaged
Ki-48 Lily: 1 damaged
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Saigon is hit:

Day Air attack on 143rd IJN Base Force, at 31,46

Allied aircraft
TBM Avenger x 42
Kittyhawk III x 14
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 26
P-47D Thunderbolt x 3
A-26B Invader x 27

Allied aircraft losses
Beaufighter Mk 21: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
189 casualties reported
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Day Air attack on 143rd IJN Base Force, at 31,46

Allied aircraft
Liberator VI x 8
B-24J Liberator x 11

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
23 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Day Air attack on TF, near Tarakan at 33,61

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 9

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
TK Yamamizu Maru
TK Nichirin Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
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We move some Judy's to Timor and surprise a convoy there. A hasty retreat as the heavies
will deal out punishment.

Day Air attack on TF at 30,73

Japanese aircraft
D4Y Judy x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
D4Y Judy: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied Ships
AK David Dudley Field
TK Kishwaukee
AK Frank H. Evers
AK Granville Stuart, Bomb hits 1
AK Jane Addams, Bomb hits 2, on fire
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Ground Combat

Ground combat at Iwo Jima

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 86490 troops, 889 guns, 616 vehicles, Assault Value = 2136 <- our assault strength is now almost high enough to start probing attacks. A few more bombardments and we'll give it a go.

Defending force 57806 troops, 512 guns, 151 vehicles, Assault Value = 1262

Allied ground losses:
87 casualties reported
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Hm, the reinforcements have not reached Saigon yet. One regiment is east of the base and
has marched 60/60 miles....[8|]

Ground combat at Saigon

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 99804 troops, 547 guns, 1174 vehicles, Assault Value = 2395

Defending force 29985 troops, 110 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 543

Allied max assault: 3674 - adjusted assault: 1717

Japanese max defense: 470 - adjusted defense: 1419

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 8)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 7

Japanese ground losses:
1348 casualties reported
Guns lost 9

Allied ground losses:
1472 casualties reported
Guns lost 32
Vehicles lost 16
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Oil reserves are slowly dropping, hopefully our 1 million HI industry reserves will make good for
shortfalls. We got some 100k oil enroute on tankers.

Think I can turn of vehicle production, will see to it next turn.

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Wow! You don´t have any arm points!!! [X(][X(]

How did that come?
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I shut down many of the factories because I had a big stockpile.
Increasing slowly to obtain a balanced production number.

More information would have been nice: Now consuming xxxxxx amount pr day while producing xxxxxxx.
As it is I'm completely dumbfounded when it comes to exact demands and output [&:]
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I guess your tank units are now outfitted with the Type 3 tank? This one is almost a match to the M4 Sherman.
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Have to check that [:)]

Castor, guess you should be happy that Taiho has survived to become the last IJN carrier [;)]
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Have to check that [:)]

Castor, guess you should be happy that Taiho has survived to become the last IJN carrier [;)]


I am!! [;)] So take care of her! Would be a nice place to receive the Allied surrender!! [:D]
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I had a massive outburst of annoyance when I watched this turn - all explained in the screenie.
Calmed down a bit, good thing I got a sturdy keyboard... [8|]

Can only say that I'm REALLY glad I denied the Bonins to Andy. He has still not 'earned' the right to
efficiently bomb the Home Islands and have to send in the B-29s from Wake and Thailand at the end of their abilities.

My tank regiments have the Type 3 tank ok!

Not sure how long the Taiho will survive, alone against 100 enemy carrier of different brands.
Hopefully she will take 1 or 2 with her. Putting a trained Zeke FB kamikaze unit on her, 50 ac. 27 Zekes will escort
them to their targets.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 04/26/45

Sub/ASW Attacks

Numerous enemy subs are in the area around Tokyo! Time to get the broom out of the closet again...

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Sub attack at 65,45

Japanese Ships
AG AG-355, Shell hits 7, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS Threadfin
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Night Air Combat

Finally an attack of my liking...nada damage!

Night Air attack on Hiroshima/Kure , at 60,41

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-S Irving x 4
C6N1-S Myrt x 3

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 50

Japanese aircraft losses
J1N1-S Irving: 1 destroyed
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Daylight Air Combat

Day Air attack on Tokyo , at 66,43

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 27
N1K1-J George x 24
J2M Jack x 46
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 25
Ki-100 Tony x 18

Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 51
F4U-1D Corsair x 32
B-29 Superfortress x 138

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 35 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 9 destroyed, 3 damaged
J2M Jack: 24 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 27 destroyed
Ki-100 Tony: 5 destroyed, 5 damaged
Ki-45 KAIc Nick: 3 destroyed
D4Y Judy: 7 destroyed
Ki-57-II Topsy: 3 destroyed
C6N1-S Myrt: 2 destroyed
P1Y Frances: 3 destroyed
L2D2 Tabby: 3 destroyed
Ki-84-Ic Frank: 1 destroyed
B7A Grace: 3 destroyed
Ki-54 Hickory: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1 Corsair: 17 destroyed, 5 damaged
F4U-1D Corsair: 6 destroyed, 2 damaged
B-29 Superfortress: 7 destroyed, 33 damaged

Japanese Ships
AO Teikon Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CL Sakawa, Bomb hits 1
DD Momo, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
MSW W.11, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Japanese ground losses:
278 casualties reported
Guns lost 6

Airbase hits 18
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 52
Port hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
17 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
2 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
8 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
5 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
8 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
2 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
2 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
2 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
1 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
2 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
2 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 6000 feet
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Ground Combat

Ground combat at Iwo Jima

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 91463 troops, 965 guns, 616 vehicles, Assault Value = 2135

Defending force 57275 troops, 502 guns, 147 vehicles, Assault Value = 1251

Allied ground losses:
125 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Vehicles lost 3
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Ground combat at Saigon

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 96904 troops, 626 guns, 94 vehicles, Assault Value = 2324

Defending force 49158 troops, 350 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 936 <- our defences have been reinforced!

Japanese ground losses:
75 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
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One of my 'partisan' units is pushed aside!

Ground combat at 30,40

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 26647 troops, 193 guns, 10 vehicles, Assault Value = 680

Defending force 350 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 11

Allied max assault: 1476 - adjusted assault: 2546

Japanese max defense: 6 - adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 2546 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
214 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!
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Enemy raid on Tokyo

After cooling down from my annoyance I find comfort in the thought that the enemy is forced to
take almost crazy chances to be able to bomb Tokyo. If not for the incredible luck with the weather
Andy would have lost a lot more B-29s and his cv's would have been shredded by 150 kamis + naval bombers.

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RE: Air raids on the Home Islands

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More fun tomorrow....here's another screenie!

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RE: Air raids on the Home Islands

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Any advice from you who don't read Andy's AAR: What should be done before the storm breaks,
anything I may have forgotten?

I would think that given the amount of resources at his disposal, he could send quite a significant feint in hopes of getting you to (over)commit, or just get chewed up.



P.S. Been reading this AAR for years...and I love your work! [&o]
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RE: Air raids on the Home Islands

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Thx Blam0, nice to hear from and welcome aboard! [:)]

Will try not to committ 100% before Andy's next target becomes obvious!
Still, have to do my best to inflict casualties when the opportunities present themselves.
Not easy, today 70 bombers were all shot down by a small Uber CAP....

Used to opportunity to fret Andy out about the A7M2 Reppu. I can be an Evil Kanivel [:D]
Since I'm expecting issues with the A6M5-A6M8-A7M2 upgrade path, it may take more than a month before I get any Daitais flying Reppus'. Perhaps it will make Andy think again before invading our sacret ground [;)]

Here's the text:

From: John Leknes [mailto:]
Sent: 10 June 2007 20:52
To: Andy McPhie
Subject: Re: turn

The weather saved your carriers and less than 50% of my CAP fighters took to the air. Jap radar is broken and the Corsair makes me see red :p

Incredible that it's possible to hit targets with full effect when weather is too bad to allow friendly air sorties.

When I get the Reppu next week and the Shinden in June it's your turn to cry, and don't come to me for pitty <EG> ;-)

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From: Andy McPhie
To: 'John Leknes'
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 9:56 PM
Subject: RE: turn


NEXT WEEK !!!! [:D] WTF – so a spurious never was aircraft is going to blow the game out of the water – wonderful well my 50xp navy fighter pilots in Hellcats are going to have their hands full I guess…

I used 5 Sqns of Corsairs for the sweep because Hellcats and Wildcats don’t have the range (Corsair is range 5) and I needed to use Marines because if it went wrong I cannot afford the Navy pilot losses.

That was 70% of all Marines on board Carriers in a single raid but it was worth it !!!!

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From: John Leknes [mailto:john.leknes@lyse.net]
Sent: 10 June 2007 21:15
To: Andy McPhie
Subject: Re: turn

Yep, that's the way the game has been designed!

Designed to be the ultimate successor to the Zero, the Reppu held lots of promise and pilots commented favorably on the plane in trials. But poor engine performance, a major earthquake, and of course, B-29 bombing raids combined to prevent the plane from ever seeing full production before the conflict ended (three prototypes survived the war). Get a feel for what US Navy pilots may have been facing if history had turned out a bit differently...

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From: Andy McPhie
To: 'John Leknes'
Subject: Re: turn

I have no issue with a few Reppus because you have done a lot better than history my concern is if all A6M5 factrories upgrade to Reppu I will be facing a production of 600 – 700 per month of a fighter better than anything I have….

Now I am aware they use different engines so it may only be A6M8 factories that auto upgrade in which case I am less worried but if I am facing 1,000’s of Reppus then that is a Baaaad thing……;)

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RE: Air raids on the Home Islands

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Why annoyed - hey, it is 1945 and he is only able to pull off Doolittle type raids?&nbsp; At great risk?&nbsp; Cool!
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To me the problem is fundamental flaw of asymmetric game design. By giving one side strategic as well as tactical options (research, production) the game falls down. Either both sides should be the role of commander who makes the best of what they are given, or both sides should be allowed some flexibility in production and research. As it stands there is no feedback loop to allow the Allies to counter Japan’s strategic choices, so you get frustrated players.
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Plus odd to have a game with Shindens, but no Bearcats or Tigercats, or Meteors, Spear Fish and Sea Furies. Meteors weren’t sent to CBI because they weren’t needed – the Japanese were so beaten up at the end that Grants were still used in Burma in 1945, two years after they were obsolete in ETO. AFAIK, Tigercats and Bearcats were starting to arrive 3Q 1945.
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Anyway, rant over. Just get the feeling that both of you are going through the motions, and not much enjoying what the game is "forcing" you to do.
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