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I guess it would be very hard to get all five generations of aircraft in one photo. The max speed of 1st gen biplanes and stall speed of the jets do not leave much overlap.

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Agreed, the F86 was very important in its day.ORIGINAL: NCSUforest
And an F86 would be nice tooORIGINAL: niceguy2005
They need an F-4 in that picture.ORIGINAL: NCSUforest
As I was cleaning out my harddrive I found these multigenerational photos
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I will always have a soft spot for the F-4, though it seems much of the press these days maligns the aircraft.
The Texas ANG base near where I grew up flew them and I used to go there to watch the Blue Angels or Thunderbirds...those were great shows. [:)]

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Question of the day ... For a given nationality which fighter aircraft are the best examples of each generation??

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Year 1247:
Parma falls to Lombard Guelphs, who surprise the city while its imperial garrison is off guard. The deposed Holy Roman Emperor Friedrich II concentrates a large army outside Parma and lays siege to the town (see 1248).
The French crown confiscates the possessions of the viscounts of Béziers and Carcassonne, who have defended the Cathar "heretics" in the Albigensian Wars. The first French royal commission of investigation is appointed to provide for means of redress following complaints that the king's baliffs, seneschals, and subordinate officers have abused their authority, either for the king's benefit or their own.
The German king Henry Raspe dies at Wartburg February 16 at age 44. The deposed Holy Roman Emperor Friedrich II announces in April that he will capture the pope. The papal party elects Count Wilhelm von Holland, 18, as anti-king October 3 in opposition to the deposed Conrad IV (see 1248).
Aragon's Code of Huesca is promulgated by Jaime I. Written in Latin at the northeastern city of Huesca by Bishop Vidal de Canellas, it collects the franchises or laws known as fueros and arranges them in eight volumes that delineate the territorial borders of Aragon and will serve as the country's most important civil and criminal code until the 15th century.
The city of Buda is founded by Hungary's Belá IV to replace the city of Pest destroyed 6 years ago by invading Mongols. Belá repopulates the city with foreign colonists, mostly Germans.
England's St. Mary of Bethlehem hospital for the insane has its beginnings. The word bedlam will be derived from its name and will be applied to situations such as those that will prevail in the new hospital.
Pope Innocent IV sends a diplomatic and proselytizing mission to the Mongols of Persia and Armenia. His emissaries depart from Acre and travel for 59 days until they reach the camp of Bachu (Baiju) between the Aras River and Lake Gotchka (later Lake Sevan), but they offer no gifts, try to convert the "heathen," and refuse to visit the great khan Güyuk. An order for their execution is issued three times, but they are permitted to leave after 9 weeks with a letter from Bachu ordering the pope to visit and submit to the Master of all the Earth (meaning Güyuk Khan). French Dominican friar Simon of Saint-Quentin accompanies the group; his account of the mission will be recorded 3 years hence by the encylopaedist Vincent of Beauvais in his Mirror of History (Speculum historiale).
Siena University has its beginnings south of Florence in Tuscany.
A gravestone erected in Yorkshire bears the inscription, "Hear underneath dis laihl stean/ las Robert earl of Huntingtun/ neer arcir yer az hie sa geud/ And pipl kauld im Roben Heud/ sick utlawz as he an iz men/ il england nivr si agen/ Obiit 24 kal Decembris 1247."
Roger Bacon is the first to mention gunpowder in Europe in a letter written this year. See also 1044 Materials.
The first evidence of a Chinese sign for zero dates from this year. See also 876 Mathematics.
Some type of firearm may have been used at the Siege of Seville, but the evidence for this is scanty. See also 1221 Tools.
Parma falls to Lombard Guelphs, who surprise the city while its imperial garrison is off guard. The deposed Holy Roman Emperor Friedrich II concentrates a large army outside Parma and lays siege to the town (see 1248).
The French crown confiscates the possessions of the viscounts of Béziers and Carcassonne, who have defended the Cathar "heretics" in the Albigensian Wars. The first French royal commission of investigation is appointed to provide for means of redress following complaints that the king's baliffs, seneschals, and subordinate officers have abused their authority, either for the king's benefit or their own.
The German king Henry Raspe dies at Wartburg February 16 at age 44. The deposed Holy Roman Emperor Friedrich II announces in April that he will capture the pope. The papal party elects Count Wilhelm von Holland, 18, as anti-king October 3 in opposition to the deposed Conrad IV (see 1248).
Aragon's Code of Huesca is promulgated by Jaime I. Written in Latin at the northeastern city of Huesca by Bishop Vidal de Canellas, it collects the franchises or laws known as fueros and arranges them in eight volumes that delineate the territorial borders of Aragon and will serve as the country's most important civil and criminal code until the 15th century.
The city of Buda is founded by Hungary's Belá IV to replace the city of Pest destroyed 6 years ago by invading Mongols. Belá repopulates the city with foreign colonists, mostly Germans.
England's St. Mary of Bethlehem hospital for the insane has its beginnings. The word bedlam will be derived from its name and will be applied to situations such as those that will prevail in the new hospital.
Pope Innocent IV sends a diplomatic and proselytizing mission to the Mongols of Persia and Armenia. His emissaries depart from Acre and travel for 59 days until they reach the camp of Bachu (Baiju) between the Aras River and Lake Gotchka (later Lake Sevan), but they offer no gifts, try to convert the "heathen," and refuse to visit the great khan Güyuk. An order for their execution is issued three times, but they are permitted to leave after 9 weeks with a letter from Bachu ordering the pope to visit and submit to the Master of all the Earth (meaning Güyuk Khan). French Dominican friar Simon of Saint-Quentin accompanies the group; his account of the mission will be recorded 3 years hence by the encylopaedist Vincent of Beauvais in his Mirror of History (Speculum historiale).
Siena University has its beginnings south of Florence in Tuscany.
A gravestone erected in Yorkshire bears the inscription, "Hear underneath dis laihl stean/ las Robert earl of Huntingtun/ neer arcir yer az hie sa geud/ And pipl kauld im Roben Heud/ sick utlawz as he an iz men/ il england nivr si agen/ Obiit 24 kal Decembris 1247."
Roger Bacon is the first to mention gunpowder in Europe in a letter written this year. See also 1044 Materials.
The first evidence of a Chinese sign for zero dates from this year. See also 876 Mathematics.
Some type of firearm may have been used at the Siege of Seville, but the evidence for this is scanty. See also 1221 Tools.
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For American:
1st - the jenny only because it is the only one I am familiar with.
2nd - P51 although the corsair is a close second.
3rd - F86
4th - F15
5th - only one choice F22
1st - the jenny only because it is the only one I am familiar with.
2nd - P51 although the corsair is a close second.
3rd - F86
4th - F15
5th - only one choice F22

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For American:
1st - the jenny only because it is the only one I am familiar with.
2nd - P51 although the corsair is a close second.
3rd - F86
4th - F15
5th - only one choice F22
-1 -Union Observation Balloon [:'(]
0 - Wright Flyer
1 - Jenny
2 - P-38 - only US frontline fighter to serve as such through the entire war
2.5 - Corsair
3 - F86
3.5 - F100 (sentimental favorite of mine)
4 - F14 (oh, those Phoenix missiles!! [8D])
5 - F22 i guess...
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ORIGINAL: NCSUforest
For American:
1st - the jenny only because it is the only one I am familiar with.
2nd - P51 although the corsair is a close second.
3rd - F86
4th - F15
5th - only one choice F22
-1 -Union Observation Balloon [:'(]
0 - Wright Flyer
1 - Jenny
2 - P-38 - only US frontline fighter to serve as such through the entire war
2.5 - Corsair
3 - F86
3.5 - F100 (sentimental favorite of mine)
4 - F14 (oh, those Phoenix missiles!! [8D])
5 - F22 i guess...
I will agree that a 3.5 is needed for 1960's era aircraft F4 would fit nicely into that category. I would classify it as supersonic pre fly by wire.

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Howdy, Yava - long time no see!!!!!
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Long time indeed...[;)] It feels good to be back to the world of living![:D]

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Who are you? [&:] [:'(]
So do you have an excuse for your neglect or must the Comfy Chair be brought? [:)]
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Lunch time tithe[:)]
For what we are about to receive, may we be truly thankful.
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Well I did partiipate in a "small" car accident... our driver tried to somehow dodge this truch that started to pass another car... but well he succeded in a way that we ended up hitting a tree... thanks God, everyone survived but my absence was the result of spending time at the hospital...[:'(] bring th Chair[8D][:D]

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[X(] [:(] That doesn't sound fun.........I hope your nurses were cute........ [:D]
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No, no. The hospital was punishment enough[:D]
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Question of the day ... For a given nationality which fighter aircraft are the best examples of each generation??
2nd P-40 Ubiquitous fighter of WWII. Not sleek, not sexy, but from all around dog fighter, to close air support it did it all.
2.5 Corsair/Thunderbolt/Hellcat (all were similar in performance)
3rd F86
3.5 So many to choose from F-4 may get the nod but also F-8 crusader (another personal favorite of mine) and the F-104 Starfighter
4th F-15 for when you absolutely positively need air superiority
5th F22

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[X(] [:(] That doesn't sound fun.........I hope your nurses were cute........ [:D]
Wish they were..
Anyways... I hope that Onime won't kill me for pending his turn for some time now...[:'(]

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I'm going to start calling you George of the Jungle..."Watch out for that tree!" [:D]ORIGINAL: Yava
Well I did partiipate in a "small" car accident... our driver tried to somehow dodge this truch that started to pass another car... but well he succeded in a way that we ended up hitting a tree... thanks God, everyone survived but my absence was the result of spending time at the hospital...[:'(] bring th Chair[8D][:D]

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I hope your mending well and feeling back to "normal" Yava. [8D]

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