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I am wondering ... besides hiding under overcast and in squalls, if the speed of the TF/TG impact the ease of which it is spotted.

For example, I spent the last day under the air reach of heavy bombers from a land base. The Japanese chose not to give chase. At night, I dashed to reach a weather front along the coast by morning. I am now keeping station in a squal line doing about 5kts. Will the smaller wakes also help reduce my signature?

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I am wondering ... besides hiding under overcast and in squalls, if the speed of the TF/TG impact the ease of which it is spotted.

For example, I spent the last day under the air reach of heavy bombers from a land base. The Japanese chose not to give chase. At night, I dashed to reach a weather front along the coast by morning. I am now keeping station in a squal line doing about 5kts. Will the smaller wakes also help reduce my signature?

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I don't think it has any effect.

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If I am a Japanese submarine captain I am happy to see you worrying about your wake at 5 knots. So the question is if it is modeled that a TF on station is more likely to be a target of a sub attack than one in transit at high speed?
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The CCAW manual does say that 20kts is a good speed for ASW while maintaining fuel efficiency.
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If I am a Japanese submarine captain I am happy to see you worrying about your wake at 5 knots. So the question is if it is modeled that a TF on station is more likely to be a target of a sub attack than one in transit at high speed?

The lower your speed the higher the chances of a successful sub attack. You are assumed to be always making your indicated speed, even if on station.

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Do/can TFs zig-zag?
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Do/can TFs zig-zag?

Not explicitly, you are assumed to be taking sensible precautions.

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Do/can TFs zig-zag?
Not explicitly, you are assumed to be taking sensible precautions.
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By precautions, do you mean sailing faster than subs can follow you, hiding in wx fronts, and so forth?
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I think the game assumes you are doing the right things such as destroyer sweeps and having a plane or two in searcing for subs (don't think that is actually modeled). Higher speed should make a sub attack less likely but no guarantee. A sub could be by luck in the right place when a TF at high speed would zig right across it's bow. As far as weather fronts that would probably benefit the sub as much as a TF so that's probably a wash.
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I think the game assumes you are doing the right things such as destroyer sweeps and having a plane or two in searcing for subs (don't think that is actually modeled). Higher speed should make a sub attack less likely but no guarantee. A sub could be by luck in the right place when a TF at high speed would zig right across it's bow. As far as weather fronts that would probably benefit the sub as much as a TF so that's probably a wash.

That's right. Weather won't save you from sub attack, speed is your best defence.

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So the only modded precaution against sub attacks in C@W is simply speed, period.
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