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Ok since he's started his own AAR, I suppose I'll start one here.

May 42 Start
He probably posted the toggles in his AAR, so I won't bother.

Well, we started off quietly enough. He took Gili Gili and started blasting Port Moresby all to hell, but curiously did not attempt a Coral Sea Operation.

What the bastard DID do was to form the Kido Butai Death Star (which is doctrinally correct) and in June (?)sneak up on my convoys supplying Midway and raided the friggin area, while I was in SoPac with all my CVs prancing around... Sank CVE Long Island (doing ASW work) and a ton of shipping, including an AS or 2, a few subs (I was using Midway as a refueling point for my subs.)

He then retired. And I sent all my CVs scurrying back to Pearl to try to cut him off...

So then he went to Brisabane, and a month later (July?) friggin obliterated the place... for 3 days... meantime, I'm caught fueling...

If it were happening to someone else, it would have been a beautiful sight.

Meantime, he's kicking my lame-ass Chinese all over the friggin map, driving through me like crap through a goose where he can, out-flanking me where he can't. General friggin mayhem... most turns are viewed with groans from me and decisions on where to stop the bleeding.

He's also driving though Burma and I decide to stop him cold at Kohima in NE India. I pull everything I can over there to stop him and dig in. Speedy is the first opponent to mass his forces and make a seaborne operation into India. I totally mis-read his ops and thought he was going the land route. Even the first raiding missions of his I thought were hit and run and so I kept my assets in SoPac expecting a run on Australia. Even 2 RN CVs were operating near Oz as back up.

Re-took Lunga and Tulagi, but lately, his LBA from Rabaul has been killing me, and my BBs. I'm working to get air assets over there, but it's been hell to co-ordinate after the raids screwed up my shipping assets.

So when he landed in Madras, it came as quite a shock... even then, I waited (too long I see) to respond, thinking it was a feint and that he was still headed for SoPac/SWPac. He faked me out of my shorts.

Seeing that he had ALL of KdB INCLUDING his aux CVs and CVLs in the Indian Ocean, in late August, I began moving ALL of my CVs (6 US, 2 RN) from SoPac, around Oz, and across to the Indian Ocean.

Unfortunately, I was too late to catch him raiding Bombay and Karachi, and I had once managed to move the RN BBs out of harms way. But, when I assaulted Bombay, I kept using them to hit his troops there, and he caught them.

in one of his raids on Karachi, I managed to sink CVL Shoho with LBA and heavily damage CV Akagi. I suspect Akagi is hiding in Panji, but I can't seem to get to her. I was hoping he was going to retreat to Madras like he did last time, but he did not, and is now parked with heavy naval assets there.

I waited 5 days athwart is line of retreat, hoping he would move some damaged ships back to Madras, so I have decided to put the CVs into Karachi to refuel, as I tapped out the AO's that came with me [:D].

So that's where we are now. I have also abandoned Kohima to relieve the seige on Bombay, or so he thinks. What my plan is to let him come thru chasing me, then cut him off and crush him. My units seem to sometimes have minds of their own though damn it. One of my ARMoured units was supposed to stay stationed outside of Bombay to wait for a link up while some ARTy went in. 255 Armoured follwed them in damn it. So I have to round them up like wayward children again.

The only good thing about all the rain is the fact that my CVs haven't been spotted to my knowledge. As soon as I refuel, I will move out and launch an attack.

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Well damn it, one of his subs spotted my lead Aussie Cruiser TF and took a shot, but she was screened by US DDs, so I'm sure he suspects I'm nearby with CVs too. A floatplane from one of my US CAs was reported as well, so that's further evidence.

I'll keep my CVs hidden as best I can, maybe expose a few CVs to bait him.

Currently, they are in 2 groups:
Alpha: Lexington, Saratoga, and the 2 RN CV's
Bravo: 3 Yorktown class and Wasp

He's totally shut down Bombay Airfield now, and I've had to make some decisions that were painful.

I must say, it is my belief that Speedy has stripped substantial forces from his fronts and massed them to drive through me. Coupled with my slow reaction, there now exists the perfect storm to really hurt me.

I still cannot believe how totally faked out of my shoes I was...

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Admiral,

Remember you were suggesting to operate single Allied CV TFs in 42. Are you using the same rule for RN CVs? They are low on capacity to be effected by coordination penalty.

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Admiral,

Remember you were suggesting to operate single Allied CV TFs in 42. Are you using the same rule for RN CVs? They are low on capacity to be effected by coordination penalty.
Yes, all US CVs are operating in single-CV TFs, but both RN CVs operate in the same one. When the third RN CV arrives, she will also operate in that TF (provided I don't get the first two sunk [8|])

It has been hell keeping them together, and the amount of fuel sucked down by the DDs has been staggering, as it slowed my progress.

I'm really rather angry at myself for having fallen for this. A better player would not have ignored the (what are now obvious) warning signs. What still amazes me is his abiltiy to drive my Chinese units back. Once he punched a hole in Eastern China, he was able to just roll those units right back. Units that I wanted to bring up en echelon as support, would not move at any kind of speed, and there was no way that I was going to strip stuff from reserve.

Bitch, Bitch, Bitch, Wah wahh wahhh.

So now, I need to bring him to battle. My plan is to engage his CVs first. I WANT him to keep them separated. I'm PLANNING for him to keep them together. I'll likely lose at least 4 of my CVs, but if I can take down a like number of his, it may be worth it.

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Not much new, he continues to pound Bombay with BBs. One CV grouping is refueled, the other is fueling this turn.

I think he's sure all or most of my carriers are in India now, so I taunted him:
Speedy: "I doubt you'd send just cruisers all the way up there......we'll see........."

DadMan: "You're abosultely right, I brought my whole bloody fleet up, snuck 'em right past your nose in the rain, and if I hadn't been low on fuel 10 turns ago, I would have crushed you.

Now I'm fueled, so come out and play damn it."

I've stopped him for the moment at Dimpur in NE India, and I hope to hold him there whilst I relieve the siege of Bombay.

That's all for now. I have to rid him of India, or things will suck for a while...
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YES! I've convinced him to run back to Madras with his tail between his legs. Madras is a hornet's nest that I intend to get nowhere near.

I'm hanging on barely at Dimapur in NE India, but I goofed and sent too many div to relieve Bombay.

My plan is to:

-Keep his naval forces away from Panji
-Hold the line at Dimapur
-Re-org just outside of Bombay, and then drive south to kick him out of Madras. He's got a crapload of stuff on the ground in Bombay, so I'm hoping he has over committed there and I can trap him.

One note: the tank unit that went into Bombay can now not get out. I don't know why.

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don't despair....i lost both China and India in my game (Battle of New Jersey AAR), and i still managed to advance across the pacific 3-6 months ahead of the historic allied advance.

in your case, i don't believe you'll lose India. Calcutta, Bombay, and Karachi are tough nuts to crack, and he's a long way from taking those bases.

China on the otherhand looks doomed.
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don't despair....i lost both China and India in my game (Battle of New Jersey AAR), and i still managed to advance across the pacific 3-6 months ahead of the historic allied advance.

in your case, i don't believe you'll lose India. Calcutta, Bombay, and Karachi are tough nuts to crack, and he's a long way from taking those bases.

China on the otherhand looks doomed.
I'm hoping to trap and kill a substantial number of troops in Bombay.

He's totally ripped me a new one in China.
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12 Oct 42

Well, there is hope, and some issues.

I've been able to push his blocking units away from Bombay and re-opened the supply line (critical to moving my units in and out and starving his).

His ships have abandoned Panaji, but I don't see Akagi. That tells me 2 things about her: she has either sunk, or is limping back to Madras. If she's headed to Madras, I want to NAIL her, so I'm pursuing and hoping to get Speedy to come out and play. I have Task Force Alpha pursuing (Lexington, Saratoga, and Illustrious/Formidable TGs), and Task Force Bravo (Yorktown, Enterprise, Hornet, and Wasp TGs) in support. At the worst, I've stopped him from pasting Bombay with his BBs

Dimapur continues to hold, but it can't be long without reinforcement, to which I have dispatched 2 more Div. All I want to do is block. My main objective is to gather outside of Bombay and then wheel south toward Madras and kick the holy crap out of him there.

Below we have a map of the China Situation. He has driven a salient by punching a big hole (yellow lines) and taking Chunking. But now, I can drive in his flanks (white lines), cut off his supply, and let him fight his way out or die...

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Damn it.

I finished off Akagi, but got too close to Madras LBA and Hornet took 4 torps.

There is NFW that I'm hanging anywhere near that bee's nest. I'm going to move closer to Bombay and keep him from shagging any more freebies.

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Some fool (me) forgot to turn Hornet down from "Full Speed" to "Cruise" so her damage is now 54/92/14... She's a goner. I should have fled the scene, but I slowed up to give her cover... and now, I'll bet his whole bloody fleet is on it's way to kill me.

Pray for rain...
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[:@] Hornet has sunk, Illustrious was hit by a torp from a Betty, and this turn Wasp was pummelled by Vals... She is in a bad way, and I don't think she'll make Bombay. I've had to shuffle some escorts around to beef up AA defense for my surviving CVs, but Wasp is on her own....

On the bright side, I pummelled a couple of his CVEs... which isn't much considering it would have been of greater value if it were his heavies that got throttled...

I have decided to make a stand 1 Hex NW of Bombay under cover of shore based fighter protection, now that Bombay is open for business again. I've started transferring everthing not nailed down to this area. If he wants a fight here, then here it shall be.

Dimapur finally gave way, so now I have to figure out if he's going to keep moving forward, or just sit at the cross roads...

finally getting some VMF and USA FG up and running for the Lunga airfield. Once I get it ready for B17s, I'm gonna pound the crap out of Rabaul...
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Damn it! The rendezvouz failed, Yorktown went to Bombay, which had very little fighter cover, and she got hammered. And Sunk.

Sometimes, I hate this f-ing game...
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Ohhh it just keeps getting better.

BBs hit Bombay overnight, killed CV Wasp, and put BB North Carolina in a bad way. A couple more shuttle runs ought to kill the base.

I have a second force about to move out from the Bombay area and push Speedy down the other line to Madras. If nothing else, maybe I can scare the crap out of him.

So I have lost 3 CV's, 3 BBs, and have little to show for it.

I am truely inept.

COME ON 1944!
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What forces do you have in Ceylon? LBA there will be able to choke his supply lines. Everything to support his offensives will have to come by sea, so exploit this. Mine Madras and any ports he holds with your subs. Trap his BBs that keep hitting Bombay. The sooner you can develop 4E bases in range of Madras the better. Hit his AF and resources to force him to use up supply while you are restricting what he can bring in. Make him pay for picking a fight in your backyard with the sea to his rear...

It might also be worth sending West Coast units to the area, in case knocking the Brits out of the war is his main focus. With the time it takes for them to arrive it's decision that needs to be made sooner rather than later.

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What forces do you have in Ceylon? LBA there will be able to choke his supply lines. Everything to support his offensives will have to come by sea, so exploit this. Mine Madras and any ports he holds with your subs. Trap his BBs that keep hitting Bombay. The sooner you can develop 4E bases in range of Madras the better. Hit his AF and resources to force him to use up supply while you are restricting what he can bring in. Make him pay for picking a fight in your backyard with the sea to his rear...

It might also be worth sending West Coast units to the area, in case knocking the Brits out of the war is his main focus. With the time it takes for them to arrive it's decision that needs to be made sooner rather than later.

Ceylon was neutered by him early on, the same way he keeps knocking out Bombay. He first raids with his CVs, then he nails the place with BBs.

Looks like he has pulled back his ships from the west coast of India to replenish.

So here's my plan.
-My remaining CVs are getting the hell out of Dodge.
-I'm driving south to Madras to see if I can kick him out by land.
-I'm going to plan an attack from the North Pacific through the Kurlies into the Home Islands - yes, I'm going for broke.

Map to come...
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Hey, Admiral, where stands the game? Yours is one of three that I'm following and I'm interested in how things are going.

P.S. No way you would remember this, but back around 2003 you and I played a UV pbem. You kicked my rear end, sinking all my CVs (about par for the course for me in UV), and I became demoralized and conceded. You tried to talk me out of it and I should have listened. After several more years experience I learned that in UV the Allies can recover from anything except a Japanese auto victory.

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I remember you, don't remember the part about killing your CV's though... I thought I only did that to Mogami...

Anyway, the game is where we left it, as General Speedisimo is travelling, and then next week so am I (he leaves Italy, I arrive in Italy, go figure)

Maybe I should go back to playing IJN, I seem to get my arse kicked as Allied...

Thank you for the kind words, and when Speedy gets back to normal life, we'll get cranked back up.
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Is this game still going on?&nbsp; I hope so as it was very interesting.
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Is this game still going on?  I hope so as it was very interesting.

I had to take an enforced "holiday". This game will resume shortly...
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