Stock FitE Karri vs Larry

Karri · Post by **Karri** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 3:13 pm

I was hit with bad luck, as the first combat round ate 50% of the turn, luckily the situation in both offensives was such that there weren't any fortified(a few entrenched and most just dig in or mobile) Soviet units in the frontline and thus 1 round of combat was enough to 'undig' them. I managed to get 3 rounds of combat after that and made limited breakthroughs in both areas. As I see the situation Larry cannot block either, but he can send an unit or two there to slow me down. I will keep pushign whatever happens.

Anyways I noticed that there are a gazillion tank brigades taking part in these battles(while germans on the other hand have maybe 4-5 tank regiments alive), should I be able to turn his flank and encircle these units it will take a good amount of turns for Soviets to rebuild those units. This again means that the winter should be a little easier for me...should Moscow not fall.

The attrition warfare is going well...or not so well, depending how you look at it. Most of the Soviet rifle division are down to maybe 20-30% strenght. For example I've had several battles where 2-3 rifle divisions have evaporated and the total rifle squads lost is around 50. This on the other hand means that I am no suffering pretty much 1 to 1 losses...sometimes more as I have thrown in the ifnantry regiments.

At the moment the situation looks very promising, but it can go either way.

One thing worrying me is that Larry seems to have stopped his attacks, and is now moving forces around...the forces in Leningrad area alone are something that can turn the tide.

Karri · Post by **Karri** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 3:16 pm

Karri · Post by **Karri** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 3:18 pm

Orel offensive:

Karri · Post by **Karri** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 3:19 pm

Kalinin Offensive:

freeboy · Post by **freeboy** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 3:31 pm

Seems there are not too many already dug in pre possistioned fortified hex in tha above pix.. remember once a hex gets to fort level u can move the troops and the forts remain... I often take those loser units the reds have and set them up in the back making fort lines    good luck

larryfulkerson · Post by **larryfulkerson** » Sun Jul 08, 2007 7:08 pm

Here's the Soviet view of the minimap moves movie from turns 94 thru 98:

larryfulkerson · Post by **larryfulkerson** » Sun Jul 08, 2007 7:09 pm

Here's some Soviet losses ( before any combat ) so far:

FaneFlugt · Post by **FaneFlugt** » Sun Jul 08, 2007 8:47 pm

If I lived in Moscou I would consider bying a trainticket to the other sides of the Urals.

Monkeys Brain · Post by **Monkeys Brain** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 9:16 am

Larry's mistake is that he retreated too much as Soviets...

Caucaus must be defended, Kerch straits etc...

larryfulkerson · Post by **larryfulkerson** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 3:12 pm

ORIGINAL: Monkeys Brain
Larry's mistake is that he retreated too much as Soviets...
Caucaus must be defended, Kerch straits etc...

Yes, I see that now.

Karri · Post by **Karri** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 7:33 pm

ORIGINAL: Monkeys Brain

Larry's mistake is that he retreated too much as Soviets...

Caucaus must be defended, Kerch straits etc...

The only difference he could have made was in Stalingrad, but IMO it could have just turned into a far worse disaster. The thing is, I concentrated nearly everything I could spare to attack towards Stalingrad and Caucasus during the first mud period...Larry was then struggling to build a line there(as you can see from the update I wiped out most of his line up to Bryansk before mud)...this retreat he did after winter counteroffensive was an excellent decision, as I would have otherwise attacked through his line there(it was pretyt weak, NKVD, engineer etc. regiments ) and was planning for a domino effect after that.

Karri · Post by **Karri** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 9:42 pm

Okay, turn 99. No screenies as I am too tired,had a long day at work.

Anyways, major brekathroughs everywhere. First of all, west of Bryansk. Last turn I noticed Larry had a pontoon regiment there, and no reserves(all had been commited to battle east of Bryansk), so I attacked it in hopes of creating a gap in his line. And it did so, Larry moved some unit from the line there, leaving a gap. I immediatly took advantage of this( didn't have an engineer unfortunately, but fortunately there was a broken bridge)...railed some units there to take advantage of it next turn. Also attacked in Bryansk itself with some ad-hoc formations, forcing back a rifle brigade there.

Now immediatly east of Bryansk I made another hole, this time through fierce fighting though. It's 3 hexes wide, thus allowing quick exploitation should Larry not be able to block it off somehow.

On the right wing of the Orel offensive I am on full advance now, forced the cavalry division and some tank bigades away from my way and, again, should Larry not be able to quickly reinforce  I will be advancing quickly(several resting formations nearby...).

The center is still pushing forwards, inflicting and taking casualties as they go. Most importantly they are keeping the enemy units on the retreat and in low supply&readiness&strenght.

But the best news, for me, comes from the far North: the Kalinin offensive. The left wing(the northern part) is now set on defense against the Soviet forces from Leningrad. The center is advancing to take contact with the enemy and to either continue advance or set in defence should there be too many soviets there. The left wing(southern part) however captured Kalinin(only an enginer unit, so might be forced back) and what is more important my forces made a bridgehead across the Volga River.

Northern pincer is now 15 hexes away from Moscow, Southern pincer is about 20 hexes. So there are plenty of attaks yet to be made

Now as to the Mosow defences which magicly appeared from somewhere, look quite strong, but I'll just deal with them once I get to them. As to the rest of the front, it seems like most of the frontline has been emptied of reserves and artillery...which means I can attack there. It would certainly tie down Larry's reserves(reconstituting units)...or make those parts of the front face annihilation.

And still. Larry is receiving more replacements and reinforcements than me, and if I got this far in 100 turns, can he get back in 300 turns?

larryfulkerson · Post by **larryfulkerson** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 2:49 pm

Here's the Soviet minimap moves movie from turns 95 thru 99

larryfulkerson · Post by **larryfulkerson** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 2:50 pm

Here's some of the Soviet losses so far:

larryfulkerson · Post by **larryfulkerson** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 2:52 pm

ORIGINAL: Karri
Larry is receiving more replacements and reinforcements than me, and if I got this far in 100 turns, can he get back in 300 turns?

I'm thinking....probably not. The order of battle says I'm seriously outnumbered and so even if I could make a breakthrough somewhere the Axis lines would always be longer than I could extend my lines. I'd need to reduce the number of Axis units a LOT before I could make a dash for Berlin. Still....it's a chance worth thinking about.

Monkeys Brain · Post by **Monkeys Brain** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 3:32 pm

ORIGINAL: larryfulkerson

ORIGINAL: Karri
Larry is receiving more replacements and reinforcements than me, and if I got this far in 100 turns, can he get back in 300 turns?

I'm thinking....probably not. The order of battle says I'm seriously outnumbered and so even if I could make a breakthrough somewhere the Axis lines would always be longer than I could extend my lines. I'd need to reduce the number of Axis units a LOT before I could make a dash for Berlin. Still....it's a chance worth thinking about.

Larry,

I recommend to you works of Paul Carrel "Stalingrad: The defeat of 6th Army", "Hitler moves East" etc... that will show you in great detail what Germans must capture and what Soviets must defend and it will improve your strategy.

Your friend Monkeys Brain [:)]

freeboy · Post by **freeboy** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 7:52 pm

Its a game dudes.. the reds will win if they stay alive simplydue to the shock 43-45.. so, hold Lenn and Moscow, my ? is why defend in the North so far forward, there is a lot of defensive ground, marshes lakes etc to defend along and those troops could be plugging gaps near the raods to
Moscow! Good luck.. looks interesting!

Silvanski · Post by **Silvanski** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 8:36 pm

ORIGINAL: larryfulkerson

Here's the Soviet minimap moves movie from turns 95 thru 99

[X(]wow look at them blue dudes go! Great AAR. I'm curious to find out how all this is gonna turn out

Karri · Post by **Karri** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 2:22 pm

I'm starting to wonder whetever my succes is purely luck or skill. It just seems like my major offensive keep going, and then I suddenly find a hole in the Soviet lines and I just happen to have that panzer division nearby that manages to penetrate deeper. Maybe it's subconsiucs(sp).

Anyways, Larry blocked my advance in the south, but I'm sure I can make it through his defences, which don't seem very strong. In the north he did so aswell, but at the cost of creating a gap elsewhere, where I again HAPPENED to have several units nearby...looks like I'll be driving down towards Bryansk from there. Also the route between Leningrad and Moscow seems to be open as well...well see what happens when I play the turn to end(been busy at work).

Veers · Post by **Veers** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 3:41 pm

Well,
A) You gotta be good to be lucky. You wouldn't be getting these gaps if you weren't already doing well offensively.
B) Luck is a major part of war, anyways.

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