I dont know if it is a bug or it is intentioned. I see at RHS CVO oriented last updated that CV Cabot will come like reinforcement at New Orleans like a CV Essex fast carrier unit.
USS Cabot (CVL-28)received her name on June 23 shortly after the ESSEX class ship CV-16 -originally named CABOT- was renamed LEXINGTON.
Probably you are intentioned design this if USS Lexington CV-2 is sank before 1944 and she will come like an ESSEX class. I am not sure, but then... what happens with the original CVL Cabot ??. Could be possible that she is CVL Willmington at RHS -name that she received when was laid down as light cruiser CL-79 before rerodered as light carrier on Jun 1942- ?.
Then...the same is correct for USS Yorktown, USS Hornet and USS Wasp ? .. It is needed that she sank before 1944 to enter like an Essex class carriers ?
CV-10 Yorktown, CV-12 Hornet or CV-18 Wasp could not be commisioned ? . I have doubts about, because USS Yorktown CV10 was the second of Essex fast carrier class. She must be commisioned with another name if the original USS Yorktown (Enterprise class) was not sank. The same for Hornet or Wasp.
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CV Cabot - RHS
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CV Cabot - RHS
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RE: CV Cabot - RHS
In RHS there is not respawn of Allied Carriers.
The original CABOT was renamed Hornet if I recall correctly
RHS has used the original names of the Essex CVs, thus you recieve the correct nº of carriers regardless if the early war US carriers are sunk or not
The original CABOT was renamed Hornet if I recall correctly
RHS has used the original names of the Essex CVs, thus you recieve the correct nº of carriers regardless if the early war US carriers are sunk or not
RE: CV Cabot - RHS
Excuse me, Bliztk, but you are wrong. USS Cabot was laid down as light cruiser wilmington (CL-79) on 16 March 1942 and reordered as a light carrier on Jun 4th 1942. She received her name on June 23 shortly after the ESSEX class ship CV-16 -originally named CABOT- was renamed LEXINGTON.
Well...at RHS the Essex fast carrier class count with 16 units : Essex, Bon Homme Richard, Intrepid, Kearsage, Franklyn, Hancock, Randolph, Cabot, Bunker Hill, Oriskany, Ticonderoga, Bennington, Boxer, Valley Forge, Antietam and Shangri-La. But actually the Essex fast carrier class count with the same more LAKE CHAMPLAIN, YORKTOWN, HORNET and WASP. There is 4 less than RHS.
Escuse me for my poor english, but it is not my native laguage.
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Well...at RHS the Essex fast carrier class count with 16 units : Essex, Bon Homme Richard, Intrepid, Kearsage, Franklyn, Hancock, Randolph, Cabot, Bunker Hill, Oriskany, Ticonderoga, Bennington, Boxer, Valley Forge, Antietam and Shangri-La. But actually the Essex fast carrier class count with the same more LAKE CHAMPLAIN, YORKTOWN, HORNET and WASP. There is 4 less than RHS.
Escuse me for my poor english, but it is not my native laguage.
Cheers
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RE: CV Cabot - RHS
RHS List = Valley Forge, Kearsage, Cabot, Oriskany in real life were commisioned after WWII ended.
RHS has no reinforcements after 1 september 1945 to free slots for earlier (and more used things)
So in real life Lexington II, Hornet II, Wasp II, Yorktown II commision dates are assigned to those ships in RHS
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RHS has no reinforcements after 1 september 1945 to free slots for earlier (and more used things)
So in real life Lexington II, Hornet II, Wasp II, Yorktown II commision dates are assigned to those ships in RHS
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RE: CV Cabot - RHS
This is all somewhat confusing and difficult to work out - but the explanations were all posted on the Forum - are all documented in the RHS Carriers spreadsheet - and explained as well in the RHS manual. We defeated respawn for major ships - including cruisers and carriers - after several attempts to figure it out - with help by testers from Matrix - and confirmed in our tests. What matters in respawn is the class slot (i.e. hard code).
We name all the ships with their original names unless they convert. We name all converted ships with their original converted name. There were a couple of cases this did not work - but I no longer remember what exactly the details were. If you look up a ship with its RHS name it may be IRL that it is a completely different ship - because IRL ships changed names. But we don't know if the original ship will sink and need renaming? CHS and stock (and every other mod) take away some ships - and have respawn. We give you the chance to get all the ships (just don't lose any) - and that created a "double naming problem" - which we solved by using the original names insofar as possible - which is virtually always. But that creates confusion because now you have a ship named "wrongly" vs real life in terms of looking it up.
One of the special cases is the fictional USS Wake. In RHSEOS - where you get two Midways as Essex class - we don't give you FDR - as he had not yet died. We call the FDR Wake - assuming there is always a battle there.
We name all the ships with their original names unless they convert. We name all converted ships with their original converted name. There were a couple of cases this did not work - but I no longer remember what exactly the details were. If you look up a ship with its RHS name it may be IRL that it is a completely different ship - because IRL ships changed names. But we don't know if the original ship will sink and need renaming? CHS and stock (and every other mod) take away some ships - and have respawn. We give you the chance to get all the ships (just don't lose any) - and that created a "double naming problem" - which we solved by using the original names insofar as possible - which is virtually always. But that creates confusion because now you have a ship named "wrongly" vs real life in terms of looking it up.
One of the special cases is the fictional USS Wake. In RHSEOS - where you get two Midways as Essex class - we don't give you FDR - as he had not yet died. We call the FDR Wake - assuming there is always a battle there.
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Section 2: USN
Ship Class/Name Type Slot Comissioned IRL PAC Stock Date CHS155 Date CHSNEW Date CVO & RAO BBO/RPO/PPO EOS Capacity Ship Class/Name Notes
[The above are the column header labels]
Lexington: Lexington CV 237 14-Dec-27 Yes 6-Dec-41 6-Dec-41 6-Dec-41 6-Dec-41 6-Dec-41 6-Dec-41 72 Lexington: Lexington Capacity refers to internal storage of F6F/TBM. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 203. Note 1.
Lexington: Saratoga CV 237 16-Nov-27 Yes 6-Dec-41 6-Dec-41 6-Dec-41 6-Dec-41 6-Dec-41 6-Dec-41 72 Lexington: Saratoga Capacity refers to internal storage of F6F/TBM. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 203. Note 1.
Ranger CV NA 4-Jul-34 No NA NA NA NA NA NA 60 Ranger Capacity estimated for internal storage of F6F/TBF (on the same ratio as Lexington class)
Yorktown: Yorktown CV 238 30-Sep-37 Yes 23-Dec-41 23-Dec-41 23-Dec-41 30-Dec-41 30-Dec-41 30-Dec-41 72 Yorktown: Yorktown Capacity from Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 207 ("in practice"). Notes 1 & 2.
Yorktown: Enterprise CV 238 5-Dec-38 Yes 6-Dec-41 6-Dec-41 6-Dec-41 6-Dec-41 6-Dec-41 6-Dec-41 72 Yorktown: Enterprise Capacity from Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 207 ("in practice"). Notes 1 & 2.
Yorktown: Hornet CV 238 20-Oct-41 Yes 13-Mar-42 13-Mar-42 13-Mar-42 20-Mar-42 20-Mar-42 20-Mar-42 72 Yorktown: Hornet Capacity from Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 207 ("in practice"). Notes 1 & 2.
Wasp CV 239 25-Apr-40 Yes 10-Jun-42 10-Jun-42 10-Jun-42 6-Jul-42 6-Jul-42 6-Jul-42 60 Wasp Capacity estimated to be identical to Ranger (it may have been slightly less).
Essex: Essex CV 240 31-Dec-42 Yes 15-Jan-43 21-May-43 21-May-43 21-May-43 21-May-43 21-May-43 81 Essex: Essex Capacity by adding 9 to the capacity of the Yorktown class. Note 3.
Essex: Bon Homme Richard CV 240 15-Apr-43 Yes NA NA NA 11-Jul-43 11-Jul-43 11-Jul-43 81 Essex: Bon Homme Richard Renamed Yorktown (ii).
Essex: Intrepid CV 240 16-Aug-43 Yes 15-Aug-43 27-Dec-43 27-Dec-43 27-Dec-43 27-Dec-43 27-Dec-43 81 Essex: Intrepid Capacity by adding 9 to the capacity of the Yorktown class. Note 3.
Essex: Kearsarge CV 240 29-Nov-43 Yes NA NA NA 19-Feb-44 19-Feb-44 19-Feb-44 81 Essex: Kearsarge Renamed Hornet (ii).
Essex: Franklin CV 240 31-Jan-44 Yes 15-Nov-43 25-May-44 25-May-44 10-Jun-44 10-Jun-44 10-Jun-44 81 Essex: Franklin Capacity by adding 9 to the capacity of the Yorktown class. Note 3.
Essex: Hancock CV 240 8-May-44 Yes 15-May-44 4-Sep-44 4-Sep-44 24-Sep-44 24-Sep-44 24-Sep-44 81 Essex: Hancock Renamed Ticonderoga
Essex: Randolph CV 240 9-Oct-44 Yes 15-Aug-44 22-Dec-44 22-Dec-44 20-Jan-45 20-Jan-45 20-Jan-45 81 Essex: Randolph Capacity by adding 9 to the capacity of the Yorktown class. Note 3.
Essex: Cabot CV 240 17-Feb-43 Yes NA NA NA 2-Aug-43 2-Aug-43 2-Aug-43 81 Essex: Cabot Renamed Lexington.
Essex: Bunker Hill CV 240 25-May-43 Yes 19-Jul-43 19-Jul-43 19-Jul-43 3-Dec-43 3-Dec-43 3-Dec-43 81 Essex: Bunker Hill Capacity by adding 9 to the capacity of the Yorktown class. Note 3.
Essex: Oriskany CV 240 24-Nov-43 Yes NA NA NA 22-Mar-44 22-Mar-44 22-Mar-44 81 Essex: Oriskany Renamed Wasp.
Essex: Ticonderoga CV 240 15-Apr-44 Yes 15-Jul-44 7-Aug-44 7-Aug-44 10-Jul-44 10-Jul-44 10-Jul-44 81 Essex: Ticonderoga Renamed Hancock.
Essex: Bennington CV 240 6-Aug-44 Yes 15-May-44 21-Dec-44 21-Dec-44 21-Dec-44 21-Dec-44 21-Dec-44 81 Essex: Bennington Capacity by adding 9 to the capacity of the Yorktown class. Note 3.
Essex: Boxer CV 240 16-Apr-45 Yes 15-May-45 15-Jun-45 15-Jun-45 15-Aug-45 15-Aug-45 15-Aug-45 81 Essex: Boxer The last Essex class carrier which "counts" for RHSBBO. Notes 5 & 6.
Essex: Valley Forge CV 240 26-Nov-44 Yes 15-Oct-44 24-Mar-45 24-Mar-45 19-Mar-45 NA 19-Mar-45 81 Essex: Valley Forge Named Bon Homme Richard when Hancock lost its name. Note 7.
Essex: Crown Point CV 240 11-Apr-46 No NA NA NA NA NA NA 81 Essex: Crown Point Could not commission before 1946. Renamed Leyte.
Essex: Kearsarge CV 240 2-Mar-46 No NA NA NA NA NA NA 81 Essex: Kearsarge Could not commission before 1946.
Essex: Oriskany (ii) CV 240 25-Sep-50 No NA NA NA NA NA NA 81 Essex: Oriskany (ii) Could not commission before 1946.
Essex: Reprisal CV 240 NA No NA NA NA NA NA NA 81 Essex: Reprisal Could not commission before 1946.
Essex: Antietam CV 240 28-Jan-45 Yes 15-Nov-44 1-Jun-45 13-Jun-45 13-Jun-45 NA 13-Jun-45 81 Essex: Antietam Capacity by adding 9 to the capacity of the Yorktown class. Note 3.
Essex: Valley Forge CV 240 18-Nov-45 No NA NA NA NA NA NA 81 Essex: Valley Forge Renamed Princeton. Too late for operational service in 1945.
Essex: Shangra-La CV 240 15-Sep-44 Yes 15-Sep-44 25-Jan-45 25-Jan-45 7-Feb-45 NA 7-Feb-45 81 Essex: Shangra-La Capacity by adding 9 to the capacity of the Yorktown class. Note 3.
Essex: Lake Champlain CV 240 3-Jun-45 No 15-Feb-45 15-Sep-45 15-Sep-45 NA NA NA 81 Essex: Lake Champlain Capacity by adding 9 to the capacity of the Yorktown class. Note 3.
Essex: Tarawa CV 240 8-Dec-45 No NA NA NA NA NA NA 81 Essex: Tarawa Too late for operational service in 1945 and operated only as a training carrier in any case.
Essex: Valley Forge (ii) CV 240 3-Nov-46 No NA NA NA NA NA NA 81 Essex: Valley Forge (ii) Could not commission before 1946.
Essex: Wright (ii) CV 240 11-May-46 No NA NA NA NA NA NA 81 Essex: Wright (ii) Could not commission before 1946.
Essex: CV-50 to CV-55 CV 240 NA No NA NA NA NA NA NA 81 Essex: CV-50 to CV-55 Could not have commissioned before 1947.
Midway: Midway CV 241 10-Sep-45 No NA NA NA 15-Sep-45 NA 15-Sep-45 96 Midway: Midway Game code cannot accommodate more than 96 operational aircraft. Note 4.
Midway: Coral Sea CV 241 27-Oct-45 No NA NA NA NA NA NA 96 Midway: Coral Sea Game code cannot accommodate more than 96 operational aircraft. Note 4.
Midway: Coral Sea (ii) CV 241 1-Oct-47 No NA NA NA NA NA NA 96 Midway: Coral Sea (ii) Could not have commissioned before 1946.
Midway: CV-44 CV 241 NA No NA NA NA NA NA NA 96 Midway: CV-44 Could not have commissioned before 1947.
Midway: CV-56 & CV-57 CV 241 NA No NA NA NA NA NA NA 96 Midway: CV-56 & CV-57 Could not have commissioned before 1948.
Independence: Independence CVL 243 1-Jan-43 Yes 15-Feb-43 25-Jun-43 15-Feb-43 25-Jun-43 25-Jun-43 25-Jun-43 30 Independence: Independence Capacity from Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 232.
Independence: Princeton CVL 243 25-Feb-43 Yes 15-Mar-43 23-Jul-43 15-Mar-43 23-Jul-43 23-Jul-43 23-Jul-43 30 Independence: Princeton Capacity from Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 232.
Independence: Belleau Wood CVL 243 31-Mar-43 Yes 15-Apr-43 10-Jul-43 15-Apr-43 10-Jul-43 10-Jul-43 10-Jul-43 30 Independence: Belleau Wood Capacity from Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 232.
Independence: Cowpens CVL 243 5-May-43 Yes 15-May-43 6-Sep-43 15-May-43 6-Sep-43 6-Sep-43 6-Sep-43 30 Independence: Cowpens Capacity from Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 232.
Independence: Monterey CVL 243 17-Jun-43 Yes 15-Jun-43 1--Sep-43 1--Jul-43 1--Sep-43 1--Sep-43 1--Sep-43 30 Independence: Monterey Capacity from Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 232.
Independence: Langley CVL 243 31-Aug-43 Yes 15-Jul-43 21-Dec-43 15-Aug-43 21-Dec-43 21-Dec-43 21-Dec-43 30 Independence: Langley Original Crown Point
Independence: Cabot CVL 243 24-Jul-43 Yes 15-Aug-43 15-Nov-43 15-Jul-43 15-Nov-43 NA 15-Nov-43 30 Independence: Cabot Formerly CL-79 Wilmington (as such in BBO)
Independence: Bataan CVL 243 17-Nov-43 Yes 15-Oct-43 10-Mar-44 15-Oct-43 10-Mar-44 NA 10-Mar-44 30 Independence: Bataan Formerly CL-99 Buffalo (as such in BBO)
Independence: San Jacinto CVL 243 15-Dec-43 Yes 15-Nov-43 17-Apr-44 15-Nov-44 17-Apr-44 NA 17-Apr-44 30 Independence: San Jacinto Originaly Reprisal; Formerly CL-100 Newark (as such in BBO)
Saipan: Saipan CVL NA 14-Jul-46 No NA NA NA NA NA NA 48 Saipan: Saipan Could not have commissioned before 1946.
Saipan: Wright CVL NA 9-Feb-47 No NA NA NA NA NA NA 48 Saipan: Wright Could not have commissioned before 1946.
Long Island CVE 245 2-Jun-41 Yes 20-May-42 20-May-42 20-May-42 5-Jun-42 5-Jun-42 5-Jun-42 16 Long Island Transport duty. No air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 213.
Charger CVE NA 3-Mar-42 No NA NA NA NA NA NA 36 Charger Training carrier. Not used in combat. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 214.
Bogue: Bogue CVE NA 26-Sep-42 No NA NA NA NA NA NA 33 Bogue: Bogue Hanger capacity given. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 217.
Bogue: Card CVE NA 8-Nov-42 No NA NA NA NA NA NA 33 Bogue: Card Hanger capacity given. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 217.
Bogue: Copahee CVE NA 15-Jun-42 Yes 15-Nov-43 8-Mar-43 5-Sep-42 5-Sep-42 5-Sep-42 5-Sep-42 33 Bogue: Copahee Transport duty. No air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p.217.
Bogue: Core CVE NA 10-Dec-42 No NA NA NA NA NA NA 33 Bogue: Core Hanger capacity given. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 217.
Bogue: Nassau CVE NA 20-Aug-42 Yes 15-Oct-42 20-Aug-42 20-Aug-42 20-Aug-42 20-Aug-42 20-Aug-42 33 Bogue: Nassau Transport duty. No air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p.218.
Bogue: Altamaha CVE NA 15-Sep-42 Yes 15-Jan-43 15-Sep-42 27-Oct-42 27-Oct-42 27-Oct-42 27-Oct-42 33 Bogue: Altamaha CVE duty. ASW air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 218.
Bogue: Barnes CVE NA 20-Feb-43 Yes 15-Jan-43 20-Feb-43 10-Apr-43 10-Apr-43 10-Apr-43 10-Apr-43 33 Bogue: Barnes Transport duty. No air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p.218.
Bogue: Block Island CVE NA 8-Mar-43 No NA NA NA NA NA NA 33 Bogue: Block Island Hanger capacity given. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 217.
Bogue: Breton CVE NA 12-Apr-43 Yes 15-Jun-43 12-Apr-43 12-Jun-43 12-Jun-43 12-Jun-43 12-Jun-43 33 Bogue: Breton Transport duty. No air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p.218.
Bogue: Croatan CVE NA 28-Apr-43 No NA NA NA NA NA NA 33 Bogue: Croatan Hanger capacity given. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 217.
Bogue: Prince William CVE NA 9-Apr-43 Yes 15-Jun-43 9-Apr-43 15-Jun-43 15-Jun-43 15-Jun-43 15-Jun-43 33 Bogue: Prince William Transport duty. No air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p.218.
Sangamon: Sangamon CVE 247 25-Aug-42 Yes 15-Dec-42 15-Dec-42 15-Dec-42 15-Dec-42 15-Dec-42 15-Dec-42 36 Sangamon: Sangamon CVE duty. ASW air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 216. Note 8.
Sangamon: Suwanee CVE 247 24-Sep-42 Yes 19-Sep-42 19-Sep-42 19-Sep-42 19-Sep-42 19-Sep-42 19-Sep-42 36 Sangamon: Suwanee CVE duty. ASW air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 216. Note 8.
Sangamon: Chenango CVE 247 19-Sep-42 Yes 12-Dec-42 12-Dec-42 12-Dec-42 12-Dec-42 12-Dec-42 12-Dec-42 36 Sangamon: Chenango CVE duty. ASW air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 216. Note 8.
Sangamon: Santee CVE 247 24-Aug-42 Yes 18-Feb-44 18-Feb-44 18-Feb-44 18-Feb-44 18-Feb-44 18-Feb-44 36 Sangamon: Santee Transport duty. No air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, Pp. 216-217. Note 8.
Casablanca: Alazon Bay CVE 248 8-Jul-43 Yes 15-Oct-43 8-Jul-43 8-Jul-43 8-Sep-43 NA 8-Sep-43 28 Casablanca: Alazon Bay Renamed Casablanca. Transport duty. No air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p.239.
Casablanca: Liscombe Bay CVE 248 7-Aug-43 Yes 15-Oct-43 24-Nov-43 24-Nov-43 1-Oct-43 NA 1-Oct-43 28 Casablanca: Liscombe Bay Design air group 27. Capacity from Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 238.
Casablanca: Alikula Bay CVE 248 27-Aug-43 Yes 15-Oct-43 27-Aug-43 27-Aug-43 1-Nov-44 NA 1-Nov-44 28 Casablanca: Alikula Bay Renamed Anzio, then Coral Sea. CVE duty. ASW air group. Ac Car of the World, p. 239. Note 8.
Casablanca: Anguilla Bay CVE 248 31-Aug-43 Yes 15-Sep-43 31-Aug-43 31-Aug-43 31-Oct-43 NA 31-Oct-43 28 Casablanca: Anguilla Bay Renamed Corregidor CVE duty. Attack air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 239.
Casablanca: Mission Bay CVE 248 13-Sep-43 No NA NA NA NA NA NA 28 Casablanca: Mission Bay Design air group 27. Capacity from Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 238. Note 9.
Casablanca: Astralabe Bay CVE 248 25-Sep-43 No NA NA NA NA NA NA 28 Casablanca: Astralabe Bay Renamed Guadalcanal
Casablanca: Bucareli Bay CVE 248 5-Oct-43 Yes 15-Nov-43 5-Oct-43 5-Oct-43 5-Dec-43 NA 5-Dec-43 28 Casablanca: Bucareli Bay Renamed Manila Bay. CVE duty. Attack air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 241.
Casablanca: Natoma Bay CVE 248 14-Oct-43 Yes 15-Jan-44 14-Oct-43 14-Oct-43 14-Dec-43 NA 14-Dec-43 28 Casablanca: Natoma Bay Transport duty. No air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p.241.
Casablanca: Chapin Bay CVE 248 23-Oct-43 Yes 15-Mar-44 23-Oct-43 23-Oct-43 23-Dec-43 NA 23-Dec-43 28 Casablanca: Chapin Bay Renamed Midway, then St Lo. Transport duty. No air group. Ac Car of the World, p.241.
Casablanca: Didrickson Bay CVE 248 31-Oct-43 Yes NA NA NA 15-Jan-45 NA 15-Jan-45 28 Casablanca: Didrickson Bay Renamed Tripoli. Transport duty. No air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p.241.
Casablanca: Dolomi Bay CVE 248 7-Nov-43 Yes 15-May-44 7-Nov-43 7-Nov-43 7-Jan-44 NA 7-Jan-44 28 Casablanca: Dolomi Bay Renamed Wake Island. CVE duty. Attack air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 241.
Casablanca: Elbour Bay CVE 248 15-Nov-43 Yes 15-Jan-44 15-Nov-43 15-Nov-43 15-Jan-44 NA 15-Jan-44 28 Casablanca: Elbour Bay Renamed White Plains. Transport duty. No air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p.241.
Casablanca: Nassuk Bay CVE 248 21-Nov-43 No NA NA NA NA NA NA 28 Casablanca: Nassuk Bay Renamed Solomans. Note 10.
Casablanca: Kalinin Bay CVE 248 27-Nov-43 Yes 15-Jan-44 27-Nov-43 27-Nov-43 27-Jan-44 NA 27-Jan-44 28 Casablanca: Kalinin Bay CVE duty. Attack air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 241.
Casablanca: Kasaan Bay CVE 248 4-Dec-43 Yes 15-Jan-45 4-Dec-43 4-Dec-43 25-Jan-45 NA 25-Jan-45 28 Casablanca: Kasaan Bay Transport duty. No air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p.241.
Casablanca: Fanshaw Bay CVE 248 9-Dec-43 Yes 15-Apr-44 12-Sep-44 6-Apr-44 6-Apr-44 NA 6-Apr-44 28 Casablanca: Fanshaw Bay CVE duty. Attack air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 241.
Casablanca: Kitkun Bay CVE 248 15-Dec-43 Yes 15-Feb-44 15-Dec-43 15-Dec-43 15-Feb-44 NA 15-Feb-44 28 Casablanca: Kitkun Bay CVE duty. Attack air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 241.
Casablanca: Fortaleza Bay CVE 248 21-Dec-43 Yes 15-Nov-44 21-Dec-43 21-Dec-43 21-Feb-44 NA 21-Feb-44 28 Casablanca: Fortaleza Bay Renamed Tulagi. CVE duty. ASW air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 241.
Casablanca: Gambier Bay CVE 248 28-Dec-43 Yes 15-Feb-44 25-Oct-44 25-Oct-44 25-Oct-44 NA 25-Oct-44 28 Casablanca: Gambier Bay CVE duty. Attack air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 241.
Casablanca: Nehenta Bay CVE 248 3-Jan-44 Yes 15-Mar-44 3-Jan-44 3-Jan-44 3-Mar-44 NA 3-Mar-44 28 Casablanca: Nehenta Bay CVE duty. Attack air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, Pp. 241-242.
Casablanca: Hoggatt Bay CVE 248 11-Jan-44 Yes 15-May-44 11-Jan-44 11-Jan-44 11-Mar-44 NA 11-Mar-44 28 Casablanca: Hoggatt Bay CVE duty. Attack air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 242.
Casablanca: Kadashan Bay CVE 248 18-Jan-44 Yes 15-Apr-44 18-Jan-44 18-Jan-44 18-Mar-44 NA 18-Mar-44 28 Casablanca: Kadashan Bay CVE duty. Attack air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 242.
Casablanca: Kanalku Bay CVE 248 26-Jan-44 Yes 15-May-44 26-Jan-44 26-Jan-44 26-Mar-44 NA 26-Mar-44 28 Casablanca: Kanalku Bay Renamed Marcus Island. CVE duty. Attack air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 242.
Casablanca: Kaita Bay CVE 248 3-Feb-44 Yes 15-Mar-44 3-Feb-44 3-Feb-44 3-Apr-44 NA 3-Apr-44 28 Casablanca: Kaita Bay Renamed Savo Island. CVE duty. Attack air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 242.
Casablanca: Ommaney Bay CVE 248 11-Feb-44 Yes 15-Mar-44 11-Feb-44 11-Feb-44 11-Feb-44 NA 11-Feb-44 28 Casablanca: Ommaney Bay CVE duty. Attack air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 242.
Casablanca: Petrof Bay CVE 248 18-Feb-44 Yes 15-Mar-44 18-Feb-44 18-Feb-44 18-Apr-44 NA 18-Apr-44 28 Casablanca: Petrof Bay CVE duty. Attack air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 242.
Casablanca: Rudyerd Bay CVE 248 25-Feb-44 Yes 15-Apr-44 25-Feb-44 25-Feb-44 25-Apr-44 NA 25-Apr-44 28 Casablanca: Rudyerd Bay Transport duty. No air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p.242.
Casablanca: Saginaw Bay CVE 248 2-Mar-44 Yes 15-Apr-44 2-Mar-44 2-Mar-44 2-Apr-44 NA 2-Apr-44 28 Casablanca: Saginaw Bay Transport duty. No air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p.242.
Casablanca: Sargent Bay CVE 248 9-Mar-44 Yes 15-Aug-44 9-Mar-44 9-Mar-44 9-May-44 NA 9-May-44 28 Casablanca: Sargent Bay Transport duty. No air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p.242.
Casablanca: Shamrock Bay CVE 248 15-Mar-44 Yes 15-Dec-44 15-Mar-44 15-Mar-44 15-Oct-44 NA 15-Oct-44 28 Casablanca: Shamrock Bay CVE duty. Attack air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 242.
Casablanca: Shipley Bay CVE 248 21-Mar-44 Yes 15-Aug-44 21-Mar-44 21-Mar-44 21-May-44 NA 21-May-44 28 Casablanca: Shipley Bay Transport duty. No air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p.242.
Casablanca: Sitkoh Bay CVE 248 28-Mar-44 Yes 15-May-44 28-Mar-44 28-Mar-44 28-May-44 NA 28-May-44 28 Casablanca: Sitkoh Bay Transport duty. No air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p.245.
Casablanca: Steamer Bay CVE 248 4-Apr-44 Yes 15-May-44 4-Apr-44 4-Apr-44 4-Jul-44 NA 4-Jul-44 28 Casablanca: Steamer Bay CVE duty. Attack air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 245.
Casablanca: Tananek Bay CVE 248 9-Apr-44 Yes 15-Jul-44 9-Apr-44 9-May-44 9-Jun-44 NA 9-Jun-44 28 Casablanca: Tananek Bay Renamed Cape Esperance. Transport duty. No air group. Ac Car of the World, p.245.
Casablanca: Takanis Bay CVE 248 15-Apr-44 Yes 15-May-45 15-Apr-44 15-Apr-44 15-Jun-44 NA 15-Jun-44 28 Casablanca: Takanis Bay Transport duty. No air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p.245.
Casablanca: Thetis Bay CVE 248 21-Apr-44 Yes 15-Dec-44 21-Apr-44 21-Apr-44 21-Jun-44 NA 21-Jun-44 28 Casablanca: Thetis Bay Transport duty. No air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p.245.
Casablanca: Ulitaka Bay CVE 248 29-Apr-44 Yes 15-Jun-44 27-Apr-44 27-Apr-44 27-Jun-44 NA 27-Jun-44 28 Casablanca: Ulitaka Bay Renamed Makassar Strait. Transport duty. No air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p.245.
Casablanca: Windham Bay CVE 248 3-May-44 Yes 15-Jun-44 3-May-44 3-May-44 3-Jul-44 NA 3-Jul-44 28 Casablanca: Windham Bay Transport duty. No air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p.245.
Casablanca: Woodcliff Bay CVE 248 9-May-44 Yes 15-Jul-44 9-May-44 9-May-44 9-Jul-44 NA 9-Jul-44 28 Casablanca: Woodcliff Bay Renamed Makin Island. CVE duty. Attack air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 245.
Casablanca: Alazon Bay (ii) CVE 248 14-May-44 Yes 15-Jul-44 14-May-44 14-May-44 NA NA NA 28 Casablanca: Alazon Bay (ii) Renamed Lunga Point. CVE duty. Attack air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 245. Note 11.
Casablanca: Alikula Bay CVE 248 20-May-44 Yes 15-Jul-44 20-May-44 20-May-44 20-Jul-44 NA 20-Jul-44 28 Casablanca: Alikula Bay Renamed Bismark Sea. CVE duty. Attack air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 245.
Casablanca: Anguilla Bay (ii) CVE 248 26-May-44 Yes 15-Aug-44 26-May-44 26-May-44 NA NA NA 28 Casablanca: Anguilla Bay (ii) Renamed Salamaua. Transport duty. No air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p.245. Note 11.
Casablanca: Astralabe Bay (ii) CVE 248 1-Jun-44 Yes 15-Aug-44 1-Jun-44 1-Jun-44 NA NA NA 28 Casablanca: Astralabe Bay (ii) Renamed Hollandia. Transport duty. No air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p.245. Note 11.
Casablanca: Bucareli Bay (ii) CVE 248 7-Jun-44 Yes 15-Jul-44 7-Jun-44 7-Jun-44 NA NA NA 28 Casablanca: Bucareli Bay (ii) Renamed Kwajalein. Transport duty. No air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p.245. Note 11.
Casablanca: Chapin Bay (ii) CVE 248 13-Jun-44 Yes 15-Sep-44 13-Jun-44 13-Jun-44 NA NA NA 28 Casablanca: Chapin Bay (ii) Renamed Admiralty Islands. CVE duty. Attack air group. Ac Car of the World, p. 245. Note 11.
Casablanca: Didrickson Bay (ii) CVE 248 18-Jun-44 Yes 15-Aug-44 18-Jun-44 18-Jun-44 18-Aug-44 NA 18-Aug-44 28 Casablanca: Didrickson Bay (ii) Renamed Bouganville. CVE duty. Attack air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 245.
Casablanca: Dolomi Bay (ii) CVE 248 24-Jun-44 Yes 15-Aug-44 24-Jun-44 24-Jun-44 NA NA NA 28 Casablanca: Dolomi Bay (ii) Renamed Matanikau. Transport duty. No air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p.245. Note 11.
Casablanca: Elbour Bay (ii) CVE 248 30-Jun-44 Yes 15-Aug-44 30-Jun-44 30-Jun-44 NA NA NA 28 Casablanca: Elbour Bay (ii) Renamed Attu. Transport duty. No air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p.245. Note 11.
Casablanca: Alava Bay CVE 248 6-Jul-44 Yes 15-Sep-44 6-Jul-44 6-Jul-44 6-Sep-44 NA 6-Sep-44 28 Casablanca: Alava Bay Renamed Roi. Transport duty. No air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p.245.
Casablanca: Tonowek Bay CVE 248 8-Jul-44 Yes 15-Aug-44 8-Jul-44 8-Jul-44 8-Sep-44 NA 8-Sep-44 28 Casablanca: Tonowek Bay Renamed Munda. Transport duty. No air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p.245.
CBay: St Joseph Bay CVE 249 27-Nov-44 No 15-Feb-45 27-Nov-44 27-Nov-44 NA NA NA 28 CBay: St Joseph Bay Renamed Commencement Bay. Training duty. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 249.
CBay: Sunset Bay CVE 249 30-Dec-44 Yes 15-Mar-45 30-Dec-44 30-Dec-44 15-May-45 NA 15-May-45 28 CBay: Sunset Bay Renamed Block Island. CVE duty. Attack air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 249.
CBay: St Andrews Bay CVE 249 5-Feb-45 Yes 15-Apr-45 5-Feb-45 5-Feb-45 15-Apr-45 NA 15-Apr-45 28 CBay: St Andrews Bay Renamed Gilbert Islands. CVE duty. Attack air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 249.
CBay: Vermillion Bay CVE 249 12-May-45 Yes NA NA NA 1-Jul-45 NA 1-Jul-45 28 CBay: Vermillion Bay Renamed Kula Gulf. CVE duty. Attack air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 249.
CBay: Willapa Bay CVE 249 5-Mar-45 Yes 15-Jun-45 5-Mar-45 5-Mar-45 10-Jul-45 NA 10-Jul-45 28 CBay: Willapa Bay Renamed Cape Gloucester. CVE duty. Attack air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 249.
CBay: Winjah Bay CVE 249 19-May-45 No NA 19-May-45 19-May-45 NA NA NA 28 CBay: Winjah Bay Renamed Salerno Bay. Training duty. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 249.
CBay: Totem Bay CVE 249 9-Apr-45 No 15-Jun-45 9-Apr-45 9-Apr-45 NA NA NA 28 CBay: Totem Bay Renamed Vella Gulf. Training duty. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 249.
CBay: Frosty Bay CVE 249 14-May-45 Yes NA NA NA 14-Jul-45 NA 14-Jul-45 28 CBay: Frosty Bay Renamed Sihoney Transport duty. No air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p.251.
CBay: Hobart Bay CVE 249 18-Jun-45 Yes NA 18-Jun-45 18-Jun-45 18-Jul-45 NA 18-Jul-45 28 CBay: Hobart Bay Renamed Puget Sound Transport duty. No air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p.251.
CBay: Mosser Bay CVE 249 22-Oct-45 No NA 15-Jan-46 15-Jan-46 NA NA NA 28 CBay: Mosser Bay Renamed Rendova. Too late for active service in 1945.
CBay: Portage Bay CVE 249 16-Jul-45 No NA 15-Oct-45 15-Oct-45 NA NA NA 28 CBay: Portage Bay Renamed Bairoko. Too late for active service in 1945.
CBay: San Alberto Bay CVE 249 14-Nov-45 No NA NA NA NA NA NA 28 CBay: San Alberto Bay Renamed Badoeng Strait. Too late for active service in 1945.
CBay: Saltery Bay CVE 249 4-Sep-45 No NA NA NA NA NA NA 28 CBay: Saltery Bay Renamed Saidor. Too late for active service in 1945.
CBay: Sandy Bay CVE 249 27-Feb-46 No NA NA NA NA NA NA 28 CBay: Sandy Bay Renamed Sicily. Too late for active service in 1945.
CBay: Trocadero Bay CVE 249 15-Jan-46 No NA NA NA NA NA NA 28 CBay: Trocadero Bay Renamed Point Cruz. Too late for active service in 1945.
CBay: CVE-120 to 123 CVE 249 NA No NA NA NA NA NA NA 28 CBay: CVE-120 to 123 Could not complete before 1946.
CBay: CVE-124 to 139 CVE 249 NA No NA NA NA NA NA NA 28 CBay: CVE-124 to 139 Never laid down. Could not complete before 1946. Cancelled 11/45.
Ship Class/Name Type Slot Comissioned IRL PAC Stock Date CHS155 Date CHSNEW Date CVO & RAO BBO/RPO/PPO EOS Capacity Ship Class/Name Notes
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Lexington: Lexington CV 237 14-Dec-27 Yes 6-Dec-41 6-Dec-41 6-Dec-41 6-Dec-41 6-Dec-41 6-Dec-41 72 Lexington: Lexington Capacity refers to internal storage of F6F/TBM. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 203. Note 1.
Lexington: Saratoga CV 237 16-Nov-27 Yes 6-Dec-41 6-Dec-41 6-Dec-41 6-Dec-41 6-Dec-41 6-Dec-41 72 Lexington: Saratoga Capacity refers to internal storage of F6F/TBM. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 203. Note 1.
Ranger CV NA 4-Jul-34 No NA NA NA NA NA NA 60 Ranger Capacity estimated for internal storage of F6F/TBF (on the same ratio as Lexington class)
Yorktown: Yorktown CV 238 30-Sep-37 Yes 23-Dec-41 23-Dec-41 23-Dec-41 30-Dec-41 30-Dec-41 30-Dec-41 72 Yorktown: Yorktown Capacity from Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 207 ("in practice"). Notes 1 & 2.
Yorktown: Enterprise CV 238 5-Dec-38 Yes 6-Dec-41 6-Dec-41 6-Dec-41 6-Dec-41 6-Dec-41 6-Dec-41 72 Yorktown: Enterprise Capacity from Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 207 ("in practice"). Notes 1 & 2.
Yorktown: Hornet CV 238 20-Oct-41 Yes 13-Mar-42 13-Mar-42 13-Mar-42 20-Mar-42 20-Mar-42 20-Mar-42 72 Yorktown: Hornet Capacity from Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 207 ("in practice"). Notes 1 & 2.
Wasp CV 239 25-Apr-40 Yes 10-Jun-42 10-Jun-42 10-Jun-42 6-Jul-42 6-Jul-42 6-Jul-42 60 Wasp Capacity estimated to be identical to Ranger (it may have been slightly less).
Essex: Essex CV 240 31-Dec-42 Yes 15-Jan-43 21-May-43 21-May-43 21-May-43 21-May-43 21-May-43 81 Essex: Essex Capacity by adding 9 to the capacity of the Yorktown class. Note 3.
Essex: Bon Homme Richard CV 240 15-Apr-43 Yes NA NA NA 11-Jul-43 11-Jul-43 11-Jul-43 81 Essex: Bon Homme Richard Renamed Yorktown (ii).
Essex: Intrepid CV 240 16-Aug-43 Yes 15-Aug-43 27-Dec-43 27-Dec-43 27-Dec-43 27-Dec-43 27-Dec-43 81 Essex: Intrepid Capacity by adding 9 to the capacity of the Yorktown class. Note 3.
Essex: Kearsarge CV 240 29-Nov-43 Yes NA NA NA 19-Feb-44 19-Feb-44 19-Feb-44 81 Essex: Kearsarge Renamed Hornet (ii).
Essex: Franklin CV 240 31-Jan-44 Yes 15-Nov-43 25-May-44 25-May-44 10-Jun-44 10-Jun-44 10-Jun-44 81 Essex: Franklin Capacity by adding 9 to the capacity of the Yorktown class. Note 3.
Essex: Hancock CV 240 8-May-44 Yes 15-May-44 4-Sep-44 4-Sep-44 24-Sep-44 24-Sep-44 24-Sep-44 81 Essex: Hancock Renamed Ticonderoga
Essex: Randolph CV 240 9-Oct-44 Yes 15-Aug-44 22-Dec-44 22-Dec-44 20-Jan-45 20-Jan-45 20-Jan-45 81 Essex: Randolph Capacity by adding 9 to the capacity of the Yorktown class. Note 3.
Essex: Cabot CV 240 17-Feb-43 Yes NA NA NA 2-Aug-43 2-Aug-43 2-Aug-43 81 Essex: Cabot Renamed Lexington.
Essex: Bunker Hill CV 240 25-May-43 Yes 19-Jul-43 19-Jul-43 19-Jul-43 3-Dec-43 3-Dec-43 3-Dec-43 81 Essex: Bunker Hill Capacity by adding 9 to the capacity of the Yorktown class. Note 3.
Essex: Oriskany CV 240 24-Nov-43 Yes NA NA NA 22-Mar-44 22-Mar-44 22-Mar-44 81 Essex: Oriskany Renamed Wasp.
Essex: Ticonderoga CV 240 15-Apr-44 Yes 15-Jul-44 7-Aug-44 7-Aug-44 10-Jul-44 10-Jul-44 10-Jul-44 81 Essex: Ticonderoga Renamed Hancock.
Essex: Bennington CV 240 6-Aug-44 Yes 15-May-44 21-Dec-44 21-Dec-44 21-Dec-44 21-Dec-44 21-Dec-44 81 Essex: Bennington Capacity by adding 9 to the capacity of the Yorktown class. Note 3.
Essex: Boxer CV 240 16-Apr-45 Yes 15-May-45 15-Jun-45 15-Jun-45 15-Aug-45 15-Aug-45 15-Aug-45 81 Essex: Boxer The last Essex class carrier which "counts" for RHSBBO. Notes 5 & 6.
Essex: Valley Forge CV 240 26-Nov-44 Yes 15-Oct-44 24-Mar-45 24-Mar-45 19-Mar-45 NA 19-Mar-45 81 Essex: Valley Forge Named Bon Homme Richard when Hancock lost its name. Note 7.
Essex: Crown Point CV 240 11-Apr-46 No NA NA NA NA NA NA 81 Essex: Crown Point Could not commission before 1946. Renamed Leyte.
Essex: Kearsarge CV 240 2-Mar-46 No NA NA NA NA NA NA 81 Essex: Kearsarge Could not commission before 1946.
Essex: Oriskany (ii) CV 240 25-Sep-50 No NA NA NA NA NA NA 81 Essex: Oriskany (ii) Could not commission before 1946.
Essex: Reprisal CV 240 NA No NA NA NA NA NA NA 81 Essex: Reprisal Could not commission before 1946.
Essex: Antietam CV 240 28-Jan-45 Yes 15-Nov-44 1-Jun-45 13-Jun-45 13-Jun-45 NA 13-Jun-45 81 Essex: Antietam Capacity by adding 9 to the capacity of the Yorktown class. Note 3.
Essex: Valley Forge CV 240 18-Nov-45 No NA NA NA NA NA NA 81 Essex: Valley Forge Renamed Princeton. Too late for operational service in 1945.
Essex: Shangra-La CV 240 15-Sep-44 Yes 15-Sep-44 25-Jan-45 25-Jan-45 7-Feb-45 NA 7-Feb-45 81 Essex: Shangra-La Capacity by adding 9 to the capacity of the Yorktown class. Note 3.
Essex: Lake Champlain CV 240 3-Jun-45 No 15-Feb-45 15-Sep-45 15-Sep-45 NA NA NA 81 Essex: Lake Champlain Capacity by adding 9 to the capacity of the Yorktown class. Note 3.
Essex: Tarawa CV 240 8-Dec-45 No NA NA NA NA NA NA 81 Essex: Tarawa Too late for operational service in 1945 and operated only as a training carrier in any case.
Essex: Valley Forge (ii) CV 240 3-Nov-46 No NA NA NA NA NA NA 81 Essex: Valley Forge (ii) Could not commission before 1946.
Essex: Wright (ii) CV 240 11-May-46 No NA NA NA NA NA NA 81 Essex: Wright (ii) Could not commission before 1946.
Essex: CV-50 to CV-55 CV 240 NA No NA NA NA NA NA NA 81 Essex: CV-50 to CV-55 Could not have commissioned before 1947.
Midway: Midway CV 241 10-Sep-45 No NA NA NA 15-Sep-45 NA 15-Sep-45 96 Midway: Midway Game code cannot accommodate more than 96 operational aircraft. Note 4.
Midway: Coral Sea CV 241 27-Oct-45 No NA NA NA NA NA NA 96 Midway: Coral Sea Game code cannot accommodate more than 96 operational aircraft. Note 4.
Midway: Coral Sea (ii) CV 241 1-Oct-47 No NA NA NA NA NA NA 96 Midway: Coral Sea (ii) Could not have commissioned before 1946.
Midway: CV-44 CV 241 NA No NA NA NA NA NA NA 96 Midway: CV-44 Could not have commissioned before 1947.
Midway: CV-56 & CV-57 CV 241 NA No NA NA NA NA NA NA 96 Midway: CV-56 & CV-57 Could not have commissioned before 1948.
Independence: Independence CVL 243 1-Jan-43 Yes 15-Feb-43 25-Jun-43 15-Feb-43 25-Jun-43 25-Jun-43 25-Jun-43 30 Independence: Independence Capacity from Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 232.
Independence: Princeton CVL 243 25-Feb-43 Yes 15-Mar-43 23-Jul-43 15-Mar-43 23-Jul-43 23-Jul-43 23-Jul-43 30 Independence: Princeton Capacity from Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 232.
Independence: Belleau Wood CVL 243 31-Mar-43 Yes 15-Apr-43 10-Jul-43 15-Apr-43 10-Jul-43 10-Jul-43 10-Jul-43 30 Independence: Belleau Wood Capacity from Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 232.
Independence: Cowpens CVL 243 5-May-43 Yes 15-May-43 6-Sep-43 15-May-43 6-Sep-43 6-Sep-43 6-Sep-43 30 Independence: Cowpens Capacity from Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 232.
Independence: Monterey CVL 243 17-Jun-43 Yes 15-Jun-43 1--Sep-43 1--Jul-43 1--Sep-43 1--Sep-43 1--Sep-43 30 Independence: Monterey Capacity from Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 232.
Independence: Langley CVL 243 31-Aug-43 Yes 15-Jul-43 21-Dec-43 15-Aug-43 21-Dec-43 21-Dec-43 21-Dec-43 30 Independence: Langley Original Crown Point
Independence: Cabot CVL 243 24-Jul-43 Yes 15-Aug-43 15-Nov-43 15-Jul-43 15-Nov-43 NA 15-Nov-43 30 Independence: Cabot Formerly CL-79 Wilmington (as such in BBO)
Independence: Bataan CVL 243 17-Nov-43 Yes 15-Oct-43 10-Mar-44 15-Oct-43 10-Mar-44 NA 10-Mar-44 30 Independence: Bataan Formerly CL-99 Buffalo (as such in BBO)
Independence: San Jacinto CVL 243 15-Dec-43 Yes 15-Nov-43 17-Apr-44 15-Nov-44 17-Apr-44 NA 17-Apr-44 30 Independence: San Jacinto Originaly Reprisal; Formerly CL-100 Newark (as such in BBO)
Saipan: Saipan CVL NA 14-Jul-46 No NA NA NA NA NA NA 48 Saipan: Saipan Could not have commissioned before 1946.
Saipan: Wright CVL NA 9-Feb-47 No NA NA NA NA NA NA 48 Saipan: Wright Could not have commissioned before 1946.
Long Island CVE 245 2-Jun-41 Yes 20-May-42 20-May-42 20-May-42 5-Jun-42 5-Jun-42 5-Jun-42 16 Long Island Transport duty. No air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 213.
Charger CVE NA 3-Mar-42 No NA NA NA NA NA NA 36 Charger Training carrier. Not used in combat. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 214.
Bogue: Bogue CVE NA 26-Sep-42 No NA NA NA NA NA NA 33 Bogue: Bogue Hanger capacity given. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 217.
Bogue: Card CVE NA 8-Nov-42 No NA NA NA NA NA NA 33 Bogue: Card Hanger capacity given. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 217.
Bogue: Copahee CVE NA 15-Jun-42 Yes 15-Nov-43 8-Mar-43 5-Sep-42 5-Sep-42 5-Sep-42 5-Sep-42 33 Bogue: Copahee Transport duty. No air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p.217.
Bogue: Core CVE NA 10-Dec-42 No NA NA NA NA NA NA 33 Bogue: Core Hanger capacity given. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 217.
Bogue: Nassau CVE NA 20-Aug-42 Yes 15-Oct-42 20-Aug-42 20-Aug-42 20-Aug-42 20-Aug-42 20-Aug-42 33 Bogue: Nassau Transport duty. No air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p.218.
Bogue: Altamaha CVE NA 15-Sep-42 Yes 15-Jan-43 15-Sep-42 27-Oct-42 27-Oct-42 27-Oct-42 27-Oct-42 33 Bogue: Altamaha CVE duty. ASW air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 218.
Bogue: Barnes CVE NA 20-Feb-43 Yes 15-Jan-43 20-Feb-43 10-Apr-43 10-Apr-43 10-Apr-43 10-Apr-43 33 Bogue: Barnes Transport duty. No air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p.218.
Bogue: Block Island CVE NA 8-Mar-43 No NA NA NA NA NA NA 33 Bogue: Block Island Hanger capacity given. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 217.
Bogue: Breton CVE NA 12-Apr-43 Yes 15-Jun-43 12-Apr-43 12-Jun-43 12-Jun-43 12-Jun-43 12-Jun-43 33 Bogue: Breton Transport duty. No air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p.218.
Bogue: Croatan CVE NA 28-Apr-43 No NA NA NA NA NA NA 33 Bogue: Croatan Hanger capacity given. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 217.
Bogue: Prince William CVE NA 9-Apr-43 Yes 15-Jun-43 9-Apr-43 15-Jun-43 15-Jun-43 15-Jun-43 15-Jun-43 33 Bogue: Prince William Transport duty. No air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p.218.
Sangamon: Sangamon CVE 247 25-Aug-42 Yes 15-Dec-42 15-Dec-42 15-Dec-42 15-Dec-42 15-Dec-42 15-Dec-42 36 Sangamon: Sangamon CVE duty. ASW air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 216. Note 8.
Sangamon: Suwanee CVE 247 24-Sep-42 Yes 19-Sep-42 19-Sep-42 19-Sep-42 19-Sep-42 19-Sep-42 19-Sep-42 36 Sangamon: Suwanee CVE duty. ASW air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 216. Note 8.
Sangamon: Chenango CVE 247 19-Sep-42 Yes 12-Dec-42 12-Dec-42 12-Dec-42 12-Dec-42 12-Dec-42 12-Dec-42 36 Sangamon: Chenango CVE duty. ASW air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 216. Note 8.
Sangamon: Santee CVE 247 24-Aug-42 Yes 18-Feb-44 18-Feb-44 18-Feb-44 18-Feb-44 18-Feb-44 18-Feb-44 36 Sangamon: Santee Transport duty. No air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, Pp. 216-217. Note 8.
Casablanca: Alazon Bay CVE 248 8-Jul-43 Yes 15-Oct-43 8-Jul-43 8-Jul-43 8-Sep-43 NA 8-Sep-43 28 Casablanca: Alazon Bay Renamed Casablanca. Transport duty. No air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p.239.
Casablanca: Liscombe Bay CVE 248 7-Aug-43 Yes 15-Oct-43 24-Nov-43 24-Nov-43 1-Oct-43 NA 1-Oct-43 28 Casablanca: Liscombe Bay Design air group 27. Capacity from Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 238.
Casablanca: Alikula Bay CVE 248 27-Aug-43 Yes 15-Oct-43 27-Aug-43 27-Aug-43 1-Nov-44 NA 1-Nov-44 28 Casablanca: Alikula Bay Renamed Anzio, then Coral Sea. CVE duty. ASW air group. Ac Car of the World, p. 239. Note 8.
Casablanca: Anguilla Bay CVE 248 31-Aug-43 Yes 15-Sep-43 31-Aug-43 31-Aug-43 31-Oct-43 NA 31-Oct-43 28 Casablanca: Anguilla Bay Renamed Corregidor CVE duty. Attack air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 239.
Casablanca: Mission Bay CVE 248 13-Sep-43 No NA NA NA NA NA NA 28 Casablanca: Mission Bay Design air group 27. Capacity from Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 238. Note 9.
Casablanca: Astralabe Bay CVE 248 25-Sep-43 No NA NA NA NA NA NA 28 Casablanca: Astralabe Bay Renamed Guadalcanal
Casablanca: Bucareli Bay CVE 248 5-Oct-43 Yes 15-Nov-43 5-Oct-43 5-Oct-43 5-Dec-43 NA 5-Dec-43 28 Casablanca: Bucareli Bay Renamed Manila Bay. CVE duty. Attack air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 241.
Casablanca: Natoma Bay CVE 248 14-Oct-43 Yes 15-Jan-44 14-Oct-43 14-Oct-43 14-Dec-43 NA 14-Dec-43 28 Casablanca: Natoma Bay Transport duty. No air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p.241.
Casablanca: Chapin Bay CVE 248 23-Oct-43 Yes 15-Mar-44 23-Oct-43 23-Oct-43 23-Dec-43 NA 23-Dec-43 28 Casablanca: Chapin Bay Renamed Midway, then St Lo. Transport duty. No air group. Ac Car of the World, p.241.
Casablanca: Didrickson Bay CVE 248 31-Oct-43 Yes NA NA NA 15-Jan-45 NA 15-Jan-45 28 Casablanca: Didrickson Bay Renamed Tripoli. Transport duty. No air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p.241.
Casablanca: Dolomi Bay CVE 248 7-Nov-43 Yes 15-May-44 7-Nov-43 7-Nov-43 7-Jan-44 NA 7-Jan-44 28 Casablanca: Dolomi Bay Renamed Wake Island. CVE duty. Attack air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 241.
Casablanca: Elbour Bay CVE 248 15-Nov-43 Yes 15-Jan-44 15-Nov-43 15-Nov-43 15-Jan-44 NA 15-Jan-44 28 Casablanca: Elbour Bay Renamed White Plains. Transport duty. No air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p.241.
Casablanca: Nassuk Bay CVE 248 21-Nov-43 No NA NA NA NA NA NA 28 Casablanca: Nassuk Bay Renamed Solomans. Note 10.
Casablanca: Kalinin Bay CVE 248 27-Nov-43 Yes 15-Jan-44 27-Nov-43 27-Nov-43 27-Jan-44 NA 27-Jan-44 28 Casablanca: Kalinin Bay CVE duty. Attack air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 241.
Casablanca: Kasaan Bay CVE 248 4-Dec-43 Yes 15-Jan-45 4-Dec-43 4-Dec-43 25-Jan-45 NA 25-Jan-45 28 Casablanca: Kasaan Bay Transport duty. No air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p.241.
Casablanca: Fanshaw Bay CVE 248 9-Dec-43 Yes 15-Apr-44 12-Sep-44 6-Apr-44 6-Apr-44 NA 6-Apr-44 28 Casablanca: Fanshaw Bay CVE duty. Attack air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 241.
Casablanca: Kitkun Bay CVE 248 15-Dec-43 Yes 15-Feb-44 15-Dec-43 15-Dec-43 15-Feb-44 NA 15-Feb-44 28 Casablanca: Kitkun Bay CVE duty. Attack air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 241.
Casablanca: Fortaleza Bay CVE 248 21-Dec-43 Yes 15-Nov-44 21-Dec-43 21-Dec-43 21-Feb-44 NA 21-Feb-44 28 Casablanca: Fortaleza Bay Renamed Tulagi. CVE duty. ASW air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 241.
Casablanca: Gambier Bay CVE 248 28-Dec-43 Yes 15-Feb-44 25-Oct-44 25-Oct-44 25-Oct-44 NA 25-Oct-44 28 Casablanca: Gambier Bay CVE duty. Attack air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 241.
Casablanca: Nehenta Bay CVE 248 3-Jan-44 Yes 15-Mar-44 3-Jan-44 3-Jan-44 3-Mar-44 NA 3-Mar-44 28 Casablanca: Nehenta Bay CVE duty. Attack air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, Pp. 241-242.
Casablanca: Hoggatt Bay CVE 248 11-Jan-44 Yes 15-May-44 11-Jan-44 11-Jan-44 11-Mar-44 NA 11-Mar-44 28 Casablanca: Hoggatt Bay CVE duty. Attack air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 242.
Casablanca: Kadashan Bay CVE 248 18-Jan-44 Yes 15-Apr-44 18-Jan-44 18-Jan-44 18-Mar-44 NA 18-Mar-44 28 Casablanca: Kadashan Bay CVE duty. Attack air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 242.
Casablanca: Kanalku Bay CVE 248 26-Jan-44 Yes 15-May-44 26-Jan-44 26-Jan-44 26-Mar-44 NA 26-Mar-44 28 Casablanca: Kanalku Bay Renamed Marcus Island. CVE duty. Attack air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 242.
Casablanca: Kaita Bay CVE 248 3-Feb-44 Yes 15-Mar-44 3-Feb-44 3-Feb-44 3-Apr-44 NA 3-Apr-44 28 Casablanca: Kaita Bay Renamed Savo Island. CVE duty. Attack air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 242.
Casablanca: Ommaney Bay CVE 248 11-Feb-44 Yes 15-Mar-44 11-Feb-44 11-Feb-44 11-Feb-44 NA 11-Feb-44 28 Casablanca: Ommaney Bay CVE duty. Attack air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 242.
Casablanca: Petrof Bay CVE 248 18-Feb-44 Yes 15-Mar-44 18-Feb-44 18-Feb-44 18-Apr-44 NA 18-Apr-44 28 Casablanca: Petrof Bay CVE duty. Attack air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 242.
Casablanca: Rudyerd Bay CVE 248 25-Feb-44 Yes 15-Apr-44 25-Feb-44 25-Feb-44 25-Apr-44 NA 25-Apr-44 28 Casablanca: Rudyerd Bay Transport duty. No air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p.242.
Casablanca: Saginaw Bay CVE 248 2-Mar-44 Yes 15-Apr-44 2-Mar-44 2-Mar-44 2-Apr-44 NA 2-Apr-44 28 Casablanca: Saginaw Bay Transport duty. No air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p.242.
Casablanca: Sargent Bay CVE 248 9-Mar-44 Yes 15-Aug-44 9-Mar-44 9-Mar-44 9-May-44 NA 9-May-44 28 Casablanca: Sargent Bay Transport duty. No air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p.242.
Casablanca: Shamrock Bay CVE 248 15-Mar-44 Yes 15-Dec-44 15-Mar-44 15-Mar-44 15-Oct-44 NA 15-Oct-44 28 Casablanca: Shamrock Bay CVE duty. Attack air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 242.
Casablanca: Shipley Bay CVE 248 21-Mar-44 Yes 15-Aug-44 21-Mar-44 21-Mar-44 21-May-44 NA 21-May-44 28 Casablanca: Shipley Bay Transport duty. No air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p.242.
Casablanca: Sitkoh Bay CVE 248 28-Mar-44 Yes 15-May-44 28-Mar-44 28-Mar-44 28-May-44 NA 28-May-44 28 Casablanca: Sitkoh Bay Transport duty. No air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p.245.
Casablanca: Steamer Bay CVE 248 4-Apr-44 Yes 15-May-44 4-Apr-44 4-Apr-44 4-Jul-44 NA 4-Jul-44 28 Casablanca: Steamer Bay CVE duty. Attack air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 245.
Casablanca: Tananek Bay CVE 248 9-Apr-44 Yes 15-Jul-44 9-Apr-44 9-May-44 9-Jun-44 NA 9-Jun-44 28 Casablanca: Tananek Bay Renamed Cape Esperance. Transport duty. No air group. Ac Car of the World, p.245.
Casablanca: Takanis Bay CVE 248 15-Apr-44 Yes 15-May-45 15-Apr-44 15-Apr-44 15-Jun-44 NA 15-Jun-44 28 Casablanca: Takanis Bay Transport duty. No air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p.245.
Casablanca: Thetis Bay CVE 248 21-Apr-44 Yes 15-Dec-44 21-Apr-44 21-Apr-44 21-Jun-44 NA 21-Jun-44 28 Casablanca: Thetis Bay Transport duty. No air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p.245.
Casablanca: Ulitaka Bay CVE 248 29-Apr-44 Yes 15-Jun-44 27-Apr-44 27-Apr-44 27-Jun-44 NA 27-Jun-44 28 Casablanca: Ulitaka Bay Renamed Makassar Strait. Transport duty. No air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p.245.
Casablanca: Windham Bay CVE 248 3-May-44 Yes 15-Jun-44 3-May-44 3-May-44 3-Jul-44 NA 3-Jul-44 28 Casablanca: Windham Bay Transport duty. No air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p.245.
Casablanca: Woodcliff Bay CVE 248 9-May-44 Yes 15-Jul-44 9-May-44 9-May-44 9-Jul-44 NA 9-Jul-44 28 Casablanca: Woodcliff Bay Renamed Makin Island. CVE duty. Attack air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 245.
Casablanca: Alazon Bay (ii) CVE 248 14-May-44 Yes 15-Jul-44 14-May-44 14-May-44 NA NA NA 28 Casablanca: Alazon Bay (ii) Renamed Lunga Point. CVE duty. Attack air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 245. Note 11.
Casablanca: Alikula Bay CVE 248 20-May-44 Yes 15-Jul-44 20-May-44 20-May-44 20-Jul-44 NA 20-Jul-44 28 Casablanca: Alikula Bay Renamed Bismark Sea. CVE duty. Attack air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 245.
Casablanca: Anguilla Bay (ii) CVE 248 26-May-44 Yes 15-Aug-44 26-May-44 26-May-44 NA NA NA 28 Casablanca: Anguilla Bay (ii) Renamed Salamaua. Transport duty. No air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p.245. Note 11.
Casablanca: Astralabe Bay (ii) CVE 248 1-Jun-44 Yes 15-Aug-44 1-Jun-44 1-Jun-44 NA NA NA 28 Casablanca: Astralabe Bay (ii) Renamed Hollandia. Transport duty. No air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p.245. Note 11.
Casablanca: Bucareli Bay (ii) CVE 248 7-Jun-44 Yes 15-Jul-44 7-Jun-44 7-Jun-44 NA NA NA 28 Casablanca: Bucareli Bay (ii) Renamed Kwajalein. Transport duty. No air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p.245. Note 11.
Casablanca: Chapin Bay (ii) CVE 248 13-Jun-44 Yes 15-Sep-44 13-Jun-44 13-Jun-44 NA NA NA 28 Casablanca: Chapin Bay (ii) Renamed Admiralty Islands. CVE duty. Attack air group. Ac Car of the World, p. 245. Note 11.
Casablanca: Didrickson Bay (ii) CVE 248 18-Jun-44 Yes 15-Aug-44 18-Jun-44 18-Jun-44 18-Aug-44 NA 18-Aug-44 28 Casablanca: Didrickson Bay (ii) Renamed Bouganville. CVE duty. Attack air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 245.
Casablanca: Dolomi Bay (ii) CVE 248 24-Jun-44 Yes 15-Aug-44 24-Jun-44 24-Jun-44 NA NA NA 28 Casablanca: Dolomi Bay (ii) Renamed Matanikau. Transport duty. No air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p.245. Note 11.
Casablanca: Elbour Bay (ii) CVE 248 30-Jun-44 Yes 15-Aug-44 30-Jun-44 30-Jun-44 NA NA NA 28 Casablanca: Elbour Bay (ii) Renamed Attu. Transport duty. No air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p.245. Note 11.
Casablanca: Alava Bay CVE 248 6-Jul-44 Yes 15-Sep-44 6-Jul-44 6-Jul-44 6-Sep-44 NA 6-Sep-44 28 Casablanca: Alava Bay Renamed Roi. Transport duty. No air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p.245.
Casablanca: Tonowek Bay CVE 248 8-Jul-44 Yes 15-Aug-44 8-Jul-44 8-Jul-44 8-Sep-44 NA 8-Sep-44 28 Casablanca: Tonowek Bay Renamed Munda. Transport duty. No air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p.245.
CBay: St Joseph Bay CVE 249 27-Nov-44 No 15-Feb-45 27-Nov-44 27-Nov-44 NA NA NA 28 CBay: St Joseph Bay Renamed Commencement Bay. Training duty. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 249.
CBay: Sunset Bay CVE 249 30-Dec-44 Yes 15-Mar-45 30-Dec-44 30-Dec-44 15-May-45 NA 15-May-45 28 CBay: Sunset Bay Renamed Block Island. CVE duty. Attack air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 249.
CBay: St Andrews Bay CVE 249 5-Feb-45 Yes 15-Apr-45 5-Feb-45 5-Feb-45 15-Apr-45 NA 15-Apr-45 28 CBay: St Andrews Bay Renamed Gilbert Islands. CVE duty. Attack air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 249.
CBay: Vermillion Bay CVE 249 12-May-45 Yes NA NA NA 1-Jul-45 NA 1-Jul-45 28 CBay: Vermillion Bay Renamed Kula Gulf. CVE duty. Attack air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 249.
CBay: Willapa Bay CVE 249 5-Mar-45 Yes 15-Jun-45 5-Mar-45 5-Mar-45 10-Jul-45 NA 10-Jul-45 28 CBay: Willapa Bay Renamed Cape Gloucester. CVE duty. Attack air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 249.
CBay: Winjah Bay CVE 249 19-May-45 No NA 19-May-45 19-May-45 NA NA NA 28 CBay: Winjah Bay Renamed Salerno Bay. Training duty. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 249.
CBay: Totem Bay CVE 249 9-Apr-45 No 15-Jun-45 9-Apr-45 9-Apr-45 NA NA NA 28 CBay: Totem Bay Renamed Vella Gulf. Training duty. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 249.
CBay: Frosty Bay CVE 249 14-May-45 Yes NA NA NA 14-Jul-45 NA 14-Jul-45 28 CBay: Frosty Bay Renamed Sihoney Transport duty. No air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p.251.
CBay: Hobart Bay CVE 249 18-Jun-45 Yes NA 18-Jun-45 18-Jun-45 18-Jul-45 NA 18-Jul-45 28 CBay: Hobart Bay Renamed Puget Sound Transport duty. No air group. Aircraft Carriers of the World, p.251.
CBay: Mosser Bay CVE 249 22-Oct-45 No NA 15-Jan-46 15-Jan-46 NA NA NA 28 CBay: Mosser Bay Renamed Rendova. Too late for active service in 1945.
CBay: Portage Bay CVE 249 16-Jul-45 No NA 15-Oct-45 15-Oct-45 NA NA NA 28 CBay: Portage Bay Renamed Bairoko. Too late for active service in 1945.
CBay: San Alberto Bay CVE 249 14-Nov-45 No NA NA NA NA NA NA 28 CBay: San Alberto Bay Renamed Badoeng Strait. Too late for active service in 1945.
CBay: Saltery Bay CVE 249 4-Sep-45 No NA NA NA NA NA NA 28 CBay: Saltery Bay Renamed Saidor. Too late for active service in 1945.
CBay: Sandy Bay CVE 249 27-Feb-46 No NA NA NA NA NA NA 28 CBay: Sandy Bay Renamed Sicily. Too late for active service in 1945.
CBay: Trocadero Bay CVE 249 15-Jan-46 No NA NA NA NA NA NA 28 CBay: Trocadero Bay Renamed Point Cruz. Too late for active service in 1945.
CBay: CVE-120 to 123 CVE 249 NA No NA NA NA NA NA NA 28 CBay: CVE-120 to 123 Could not complete before 1946.
CBay: CVE-124 to 139 CVE 249 NA No NA NA NA NA NA NA 28 CBay: CVE-124 to 139 Never laid down. Could not complete before 1946. Cancelled 11/45.
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RE: CV Cabot - RHS
The above listing is data dumped from the USN section of the RHS Carriers Spreadsheet. It lists dates for map entry in RHS Levels 5 and 6. Level 7 ships that enter at New Orleans should appear 5 days sooner. Remember that in RHS capacity is hanger capacity - and in the case of USN it is designed hanger capacity (original or the current modification - as for Lexington class), not capacity with a deck park or as a transport. There are exceptions - and they are noted - when it was found a ship could put more (or fewer) in the hanger than designed. "No air group" refers to IRL. At this time - for technical reasons - in RHS all these ships embark air groups - to provide carrier qualified groups that were generally based ashore - and replacement units that won't resize if you have a big carrier that resizes unexpectedly.
Some of these small carriers have slightly modified capacity to make the resize rule "resize" to the same size! [The resize rule applies EVEN IF the air unit is ashore. We use this and the way it interacts with deck capacity to insure a large number of carrier air units do NOT resize - so you can always find 19, 15 and 12 plane squadrons for your big CVs. Note that 19 means "18 plus 1 spare" - which was the normal case, not theory, which was 18. Similarly, 15 means "18 minus 3" or "12 plus 3 spare" - which was the normal case for torpedo units, not theory. The sum 3 x 19 plus 1 x 15 = 72.]
The notes refer to the below:
Note 1: The Essex Aircraft Carriers: "…US pre-war doctrine called for the accomodation of 72 aircraft (on the hanger deck)." p.12.
Note 2: Aircraft capacity is limited to hanger deck accomodations. WITP mechanics permit assignment of the "in practice" capacity of 80 if the rating is 72.
Note 3: Essex carrier design allowed for "an enlarged fighter squadron of 27 planes." The Essex Aircraft Carriers, p. 23.
Note 4: Hanger capacity probably about 122 aircraft. Aircraft Carriers of the World indicates typically 137 were embarked in 1945, p. 255.
Note 5: Anteitam and Boxer ordered to Western Pacific late 1945 after the historical war ended. Aircraft Carriers of the World, Pp. 229 & 230.
Note 6: No more Essex class aircraft carriers were ordered until 8/42. The Essex Aircraft Carriers, p. 171.
Note 7: Name not available because the First Bon Homme Richard was not renamed Yorktown. Another Essex class name chosen.
Note 8: "Designed for 30 aircraft, it was found 36 could be adequately be embarked." Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 215.
Note 9: Had one transport mission to India in 1943, this ship spent most of the war on ASW duty in the Atlantic.
Note 10: Had one transport mission to PTO in 1944, this ship spent most of the war on ASW duty in the Atlantic.
Note 11: Held for issue as a respawned CVE, game name unknown.
Primary Source: Aircraft Carriers of the World, 1914 to the Present Day
Secondary Source: US Warships of World War Two
Tirtiary Source: The Essex Aircraft Carriers
Quatrinary Source: The Independence Aircraft Carriers
Some of these small carriers have slightly modified capacity to make the resize rule "resize" to the same size! [The resize rule applies EVEN IF the air unit is ashore. We use this and the way it interacts with deck capacity to insure a large number of carrier air units do NOT resize - so you can always find 19, 15 and 12 plane squadrons for your big CVs. Note that 19 means "18 plus 1 spare" - which was the normal case, not theory, which was 18. Similarly, 15 means "18 minus 3" or "12 plus 3 spare" - which was the normal case for torpedo units, not theory. The sum 3 x 19 plus 1 x 15 = 72.]
The notes refer to the below:
Note 1: The Essex Aircraft Carriers: "…US pre-war doctrine called for the accomodation of 72 aircraft (on the hanger deck)." p.12.
Note 2: Aircraft capacity is limited to hanger deck accomodations. WITP mechanics permit assignment of the "in practice" capacity of 80 if the rating is 72.
Note 3: Essex carrier design allowed for "an enlarged fighter squadron of 27 planes." The Essex Aircraft Carriers, p. 23.
Note 4: Hanger capacity probably about 122 aircraft. Aircraft Carriers of the World indicates typically 137 were embarked in 1945, p. 255.
Note 5: Anteitam and Boxer ordered to Western Pacific late 1945 after the historical war ended. Aircraft Carriers of the World, Pp. 229 & 230.
Note 6: No more Essex class aircraft carriers were ordered until 8/42. The Essex Aircraft Carriers, p. 171.
Note 7: Name not available because the First Bon Homme Richard was not renamed Yorktown. Another Essex class name chosen.
Note 8: "Designed for 30 aircraft, it was found 36 could be adequately be embarked." Aircraft Carriers of the World, p. 215.
Note 9: Had one transport mission to India in 1943, this ship spent most of the war on ASW duty in the Atlantic.
Note 10: Had one transport mission to PTO in 1944, this ship spent most of the war on ASW duty in the Atlantic.
Note 11: Held for issue as a respawned CVE, game name unknown.
Primary Source: Aircraft Carriers of the World, 1914 to the Present Day
Secondary Source: US Warships of World War Two
Tirtiary Source: The Essex Aircraft Carriers
Quatrinary Source: The Independence Aircraft Carriers
RE: CV Cabot - RHS
Even though not as elegant, I think it would have prevented a lot of confusion to just name the carriers by the actual names the hulls are known by today.
You'd end up with a Yorktown II, Hornet II, etc. which might not look great if the original ship didn't sink, but it would eliminate a heck of a lot of confusion. I suspect that you're going to be answering these questions as long as RHS exists as new players come along and get confused. It's a bit confusing to me and I've watched it evolve!
Bill
You'd end up with a Yorktown II, Hornet II, etc. which might not look great if the original ship didn't sink, but it would eliminate a heck of a lot of confusion. I suspect that you're going to be answering these questions as long as RHS exists as new players come along and get confused. It's a bit confusing to me and I've watched it evolve!
Bill
WIS Development Team
RE: CV Cabot - RHS
Hanger capacity:
F4U, F6F, F4F4, FM2, F8F required a spot space of "3"
Kate and Jill required a spot space of "4"
Everything else required a spot space of "5"
The following was the available space in the deck park, the rear end of the deck (including the deck park), the hanger, and in reserve (disassembled)
Hornet 108/180/288/45
Kaiser class CVE 27/45/117/0
Kaga 135/180/252/135
Akagi 135/180/252/135
Hiryu 90/135/180/135
Saratoga 108/180/270/90
Essex 135/216/360/0
Midway 180/324/450/225
Shinano 90/225/135/45
Illustrious 90/144/180/0
Implacable 90/144/360/0
Shokaku 135/180/225/72
Taiho 135/180/225/72
Junyo 90/135/153/45
Wasp 90/144/270/45
Ranger 108/135/225/45
Unryu 90/135/180/45
Unicorn 0/72/180/0
Taiyo 45/45/108/0 (as AVT 270)
Soryu 90/135/180/90
Independence 27/54/99/0
Shoho 45/90/81/0
Chiyoda 45/90/81/0
Ryuho 45/90/81/36
Hermes 27/90/90/0 (not even a full squadron on CAP)
Ryujo 0/45/153/45 (can you spell AVT?)
Hosho 0/45/108/0
Sangamon CVE 54/90/90/0
F4U, F6F, F4F4, FM2, F8F required a spot space of "3"
Kate and Jill required a spot space of "4"
Everything else required a spot space of "5"
The following was the available space in the deck park, the rear end of the deck (including the deck park), the hanger, and in reserve (disassembled)
Hornet 108/180/288/45
Kaiser class CVE 27/45/117/0
Kaga 135/180/252/135
Akagi 135/180/252/135
Hiryu 90/135/180/135
Saratoga 108/180/270/90
Essex 135/216/360/0
Midway 180/324/450/225
Shinano 90/225/135/45
Illustrious 90/144/180/0
Implacable 90/144/360/0
Shokaku 135/180/225/72
Taiho 135/180/225/72
Junyo 90/135/153/45
Wasp 90/144/270/45
Ranger 108/135/225/45
Unryu 90/135/180/45
Unicorn 0/72/180/0
Taiyo 45/45/108/0 (as AVT 270)
Soryu 90/135/180/90
Independence 27/54/99/0
Shoho 45/90/81/0
Chiyoda 45/90/81/0
Ryuho 45/90/81/36
Hermes 27/90/90/0 (not even a full squadron on CAP)
Ryujo 0/45/153/45 (can you spell AVT?)
Hosho 0/45/108/0
Sangamon CVE 54/90/90/0
Harry Erwin
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RE: CV Cabot - RHS
ORIGINAL: wdolson
Even though not as elegant, I think it would have prevented a lot of confusion to just name the carriers by the actual names the hulls are known by today.
You'd end up with a Yorktown II, Hornet II, etc. which might not look great if the original ship didn't sink, but it would eliminate a heck of a lot of confusion. I suspect that you're going to be answering these questions as long as RHS exists as new players come along and get confused. It's a bit confusing to me and I've watched it evolve!
Bill
Actually, it is a pretty confusing subject. A number of ships swapped names more than once. The standard - which is not quite perfect - of using the "first" name - may be the simplist one available. Even so - there were two or three cases where we had to do something else. I personally think it is very nice chrome to see the original names of the ships. It is also slightly more consistent: some of the "Bay" types got named completely differently - and that surely was and is confusing; some ships got names which are not part of the system at all; honoring the naming convention is in some sense more consistent than honoring the peculiar set of violations of it used IRL.
This is one of those judgement calls a modder is presented with endlessly. There is more than one acceptable solution and probably no perfect solution. My own peculiar point of view is that historical simulation is NOT an attempt to make sure "everything ends up exactly the same as IRL". Rather, it is to create a similar situation with some starting point as close as we can make it to the real world, and then permit that scenario to develop differently in each game played - according to the choices the players make. I regard it as very unlikely the pecuiliar military situation and political considerations that caused name changes in any specific case would occur in most games - and so it is in my view more likely that the original name would have been retained. There might indeed have been changes if we could replay this for real somehow, but we are not in a position to know what those changes would have been precisely. What we presented - and we do explain this in the RHS Manual - is a "clean slate" with the ships as planned - inside three slightly different sets of assumptions: the CVO set (duplicating the building choices with extensive modifications resulting from Pearl Harbor, Coral Sea and Midway), the BBO set (duplicating the original building planning pre Midway), and the EOS set (a slightly enhanced CVO set for the Allies - making choices that would have more impact on the war and less on the post war world). What we cannot know is what ships (if any) will be lost - or what ships might be picked to bear replacement names. Further - there was a demand in the Forum for "all the ships" - instead of "if you don't lose any, you never get the respawn ships" - and we met that (in our view reasonable) demand.
I will admit I didn't think of - and one suggested - naming a ship "Yorktown II" - so it was not considered. I think it would look quite strange. The chance of not having sisters with almost duplicated names is so great as to be virtually certain - and I don't think it would feel as right as the naming convention we have adopted. But I don't think it would be a horrible thing to go that way either. It took a lot of work to get this as right as possible - and I hope over time that comes to be understood and appreciated. Just compiling the above list took man-weeks of work.
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RE: CV Cabot - RHS
ORIGINAL: herwin
Hanger capacity:
F4U, F6F, F4F4, FM2, F8F required a spot space of "3"
Kate and Jill required a spot space of "4"
Everything else required a spot space of "5"
The following was the available space in the deck park, the rear end of the deck (including the deck park), the hanger, and in reserve (disassembled)
Hornet 108/180/288/45
Kaiser class CVE 27/45/117/0
Kaga 135/180/252/135
Akagi 135/180/252/135
Hiryu 90/135/180/135
Saratoga 108/180/270/90
Essex 135/216/360/0
Midway 180/324/450/225
Shinano 90/225/135/45
Illustrious 90/144/180/0
Implacable 90/144/360/0
Shokaku 135/180/225/72
Taiho 135/180/225/72
Junyo 90/135/153/45
Wasp 90/144/270/45
Ranger 108/135/225/45
Unryu 90/135/180/45
Unicorn 0/72/180/0
Taiyo 45/45/108/0 (as AVT 270)
Soryu 90/135/180/90
Independence 27/54/99/0
Shoho 45/90/81/0
Chiyoda 45/90/81/0
Ryuho 45/90/81/36
Hermes 27/90/90/0 (not even a full squadron on CAP)
Ryujo 0/45/153/45 (can you spell AVT?)
Hosho 0/45/108/0
Sangamon CVE 54/90/90/0
This was carefully considered by Joe and I - at the time I did carriers I was working for CHS under his supervision - and he was not yet working for Matrix. We did have as context a set of complaints that carrier capacity was "too large" - opposed by a number who felt it was nice to be so large.
We concluded that for technical reasons WITP as it now exists is not able to fairly permit any deck park at all for operational carriers (and it automatically does for carriers cum transports, like it or not). The reason is that there is no mechanism for risk of loss of the deck park machines. Absent such a (hard code) mechanism, there is no way it is fair to permit any carrier to have one: the ship can sail - in any weather - with out the slightest risk it loses the excess planes - gaining operational advantages without the real risks inherant in the practice.
In addition, there is the peculiar WITP issue of squadron counts. A US CV did indeed have four line squadrons most of the time. [Here the provision that it must reduce to three for a while is wrong] But it could and often did operate with more squadrons - particularly later in the war. The Japanese experimented with adding a fourth aviation unit - it was a recon element - and eventually adopted that as SOP: each CV had four different kinds of aircraft (unlike the US - which typically had two squadrons of identical aircraft). The British were even more complicated - and might operate elements of 6 to 8 squadrons on a single (and smaller) CV than USN had. None of this is easy to model in the game. If we limit the squadrons to their historical sizes, we need to be able to add a squadron from ashore (as indeed often occurred) to be able to implement a deck park. But the moment we run a US CV to 5 squadrons, we run into a peculiar (and unexplainable) feature: all squadrons immediately drop to 9 ready planes. Hard it is to put an element of night fighters or recon planes, or an extra squadron of fighters or bombers, never mind all of them happened IRL. Basically - all this is another reason trying to fill up the deck parks is an exercise in frustration within the limits of current hard code. Since it isn't going to work anyway - why try? Since it won't work and isn't reasonably fair - we went with hanger capacity - strictly.
To this should be added that, as far as I am aware, deck parks were not used by the Japanese. Rating their ships for them in an engineering sense seems improper - given they would not use them. It may be they were well informed - I believe that is likely - but elected not to risk the valuable planes by such a practice.