The Falklands Conflict

[ezzler]

From what i remember an ex-girlfriend of mines brother was on invincible... Strange he never mentioned getting hit by anything.
 i think the BBC were on invincible too .. and they were / are as anti war as it was / is possible to be . you'd think they might of mentioned it.

 Also, on this The Malvinas are ours forever nonsense ,  Argentina claimed the Nueva Lennox Picton Islands as sovereign territory  and they would never ever be allowed to be held by another power { Chilie} and would NEVER be reinquished ever...

This carried on until almost the point of WAR , when suddenly everything was sorted out and all claims settled.
 The Beagle conflict.
 And I believe Argentina used the argument that the fact the islands are nearer to Chilie is irrelevant as distance does not dictate ownership/ { the exact reverse of their stance on the Falklands}

 So there is a possibility it can all be sorted out peacefully {and almost certainly would have been by now had not the Junta made that monumentally stupid decision to invade. But then if you are a Facist , Nationalisitic soloutions always seem to be the answer}
 
 

[PunkReaper]

I am surprised about the discussion over who owns the Falkland Islands[:-]. I would have thought that with this site consisting of gamers you would all know the rules of island possession, so here is a quick gaming history lession that I hope will clarify the position. In the 15, 16 17 and 18 centuries the European Countries got together to start the game called PLANT THE FLAG. Anyone with a flag could play and any land that the flag was planted into became the property of the flag owner. Advanced rules allowed for trading hence the Falkland Islands are British. By 1800 France was fed up with this game because the industrial revolution in Britain meant that she was mass producing flags so she had clearly won the game. France looked around for a new game and came upon European Conflict which under Napoleon she was very good at. Germany with their esteemed efficiently took the game and made it bigger and better calling it WW1. However the rules were not well thought out resulting in a stalemate. At this time the USA looked over the playground wall and asked to play so she was allowed to join in. Germany took another look at the rules and introduced Blitzkreig which made the came flow a lot better and this game was called WW2. However when the game had already started the USA and Japan were allowed to join. This was a mistake because the USA had obviously been practicing and trounced everyone. While Europe cleaned up after a rather messy game the USA decided to start its own game without the Europeans called COLD WAR. Now Germany was still annoyed that the USA had ruined their last game so they knocked down the Berlin Wall ending the USA's game. Something had to be done so the USA and Europe decided to stop the bickering and play nicely together. The game they started was called GLobal Warming. They were doing nicely, (again the USA was winning) when China and India wanted to join in. More worrying is that lately people who don't even own a flag have started their own game called Global Terrorism claiming that the USA has been playing a solo version of Plant the Flag. I hope this helps to clarify matters and anyone moaning about who owns what should have read the rules earlier.[;)]

[Raverdave]

Nice one Punk.  [;)]

[Ike99]

The Invincible was not hit by an Argentinian Exocet. That's just propaganda. And it was filmed returning to port. When she returned there was no damage on her, so the Argentinians claimed she was fixed on the way home to hide the damage. Load of rubbish.

Oh really?

[Ike99]

muuahhh

[sprior]

Illustrious had Phalanx fitted prior to deployment down south. Don't see any on this pic...

[DuckofTindalos]

A claim for a hit painted on the side of an Argentinian aircraft has exactly ZERO credibility... I believe the Germans sank HMS Ark Royal 6 or 7 times during WWII... Before they actually sank her.

You need to get over yourself, Ike99...

[Ike99]

A claim for a hit painted on the side of an Argentinian aircraft has exactly ZERO credibility... I believe the Germans sank HMS Ark Royal 6 or 7 times during WWII... Before they actually sank her.

The official ¨British¨ version of the attack is there is no ¨official¨ version because no attack took place.

Yet there are plotted attack maps, pictures & video of the attack taking off, refueling and returning, witness testimony, British ship swapping, no registry of aerial activity from that aircraft carrier from May 30, and worse. Two dead Argentine pilots who died in the attack, etc, etc, etc.

Unless of course we killed 2 of our own pilots during the conflict so we could say we attacked Invincible. [8|]

So you need to get over yourself Terminus.

[sprior]

There are no photos of this Invincible returning from the Falklands. It must have been a replica at Jutland...

[DuckofTindalos]

Yeah, or maybe a decoy... A big inflatable look-alike strapped to a fishing trawler![8|]

Just drop it, Ike99, you haven't got a leg to stand on...

[sprior]

[quote]ORIGINAL: Ike99
Unless of course we killed 2 of our own pilots during the conflict so we could say we attacked Invincible. [8|]

Why not? You threw people out of planes into the sea.

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0420-06.htm

[sprior]

ORIGINAL: Terminus

Yeah, or maybe a decoy... A big inflatable look-alike strapped to a fishing trawler![8|]

Maybe that's why she sank so quickly. QED.

[DuckofTindalos]

Well, there you have it...[:D]

[Dixie]

It's an interesting theory, but not really believable. Did the weatherman tell you this one as well? Where would we have repaired her exactly? An exocet leaves a bloody big hole in an unarmoured ship. And not one of the journalists on board told anyone. Or any of the crew. Or the families of the inevitable casualties. Or the workers who repaired her. Or the companies that supplied equipment and materials to repair her. And the RN decided to cover up the damage to one ship, but not the losses to the other ships?

I could claim to be Lord Lucan, it doesn't make it so....

Here's some authentic Argie footage of the attack [:D]
http://youtube.com/watch?v=VYSKWEb_0Ew

HMS Invincible and Illustrious are different lengths...

Invincible is 194m, whilst Illustrious is 209m. Here they are meeting in the South Atlantic sometime in 1983. Invicible didn't return until later as she had to provide air cover to the islands as Stanley was unusable by fast jets.

[Ike99]

ORIGINAL: Ike99
Unless of course we killed 2 of our own pilots during the conflict so we could say we attacked Invincible.

Why not? You threw people out of planes into the sea.

70,000
(Cough cough)
Iraqis dead
(Cough cough)
to
(Cough cough)
¨free¨ them
(Cough cough)
aka steal oil
(Cough cough)

So spare me the morality lecture mate.

[sprior]

Not a morality lecture, merely pointing out the flaw in your "unless of course we killed 2 pilots" argument.

By the way, would you care to address the issue of your picture's "Illustrious" missing her Phalanx guns?

[7th Somersets]

[blockquote]quote:

I note that you have also not bothered to answer any questions about the history of the Falkland Islands BEFORE the Spanish involvement. I wonder why?
[/blockquote]


Come on Ike 99 - don't be shy.

Still shy I see. Come on Ike 99 - we know that you are here...



Sprior - why would Ike 99 let facts get in the way of a good bit of jingoism?

[Dixie]

ORIGINAL: sprior

By the way, would you care to address the issue of your picture's "Illustrious" missing her Phalanx guns?

No, he would not [:-]

[a white rabbit]

ORIGINAL: Ike99

ORIGINAL: Ike99
Unless of course we killed 2 of our own pilots during the conflict so we could say we attacked Invincible.

Why not? You threw people out of planes into the sea.

..edited..

So spare me the morality lecture mate.

..naww, that jus' don't work ol' boy, bad form...

[a white rabbit]

ORIGINAL: Punk Reaper

I am surprised about the discussion over who owns the Falkland Islands[:-]. I would have thought that with this site consisting of gamers you would all know the rules of island possession, so here is a quick gaming history lession that I hope will clarify the position. In the 15, 16 17 and 18 centuries the European Countries got together to start the game called PLANT THE FLAG. Anyone with a flag could play and any land that the flag was planted into became the property of the flag owner. Advanced rules allowed for trading hence the Falkland Islands are British. By 1800 France was fed up with this game because the industrial revolution in Britain meant that she was mass producing flags so she had clearly won the game. France looked around for a new game and came upon European Conflict which under Napoleon she was very good at. Germany with their esteemed efficiently took the game and made it bigger and better calling it WW1. However the rules were not well thought out resulting in a stalemate. At this time the USA looked over the playground wall and asked to play so she was allowed to join in. Germany took another look at the rules and introduced Blitzkreig which made the came flow a lot better and this game was called WW2. However when the game had already started the USA and Japan were allowed to join. This was a mistake because the USA had obviously been practicing and trounced everyone. While Europe cleaned up after a rather messy game the USA decided to start its own game without the Europeans called COLD WAR. Now Germany was still annoyed that the USA had ruined their last game so they knocked down the Berlin Wall ending the USA's game. Something had to be done so the USA and Europe decided to stop the bickering and play nicely together. The game they started was called GLobal Warming. They were doing nicely, (again the USA was winning) when China and India wanted to join in. More worrying is that lately people who don't even own a flag have started their own game called Global Terrorism claiming that the USA has been playing a solo version of Plant the Flag. I hope this helps to clarify matters and anyone moaning about who owns what should have read the rules earlier.[;)]

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